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Does Corruption Create Poverty?
The issue of corruption resonates in developing countries. In the Philippines, for instance, the slogan of the coalition that is likely to win the 2010 presidential elections is "Without corrupt officials, there are no poor people."
Not surprisingly, the international financial institutions have weighed in. The World Bank has made "good governance" a major thrust of its work, asserting that the "World Bank Group focus on governance and anticorruption (GAC) follows from its mandate to reduce poverty — a capable and accountable state creates opportunities for poor people, provides better services, and improves development outcomes."
Because it erodes trust in government, corruption must certainly be condemned and corrupt officials resolutely prosecuted. Corruption also weakens the moral bonds of civil society on which democratic practices and processes rest. But although research suggests it has some bearing on the spread of poverty, corruption is not the principal cause of poverty and economic stagnation, popular opinion notwithstanding.
World Bank and Transparency International data show that the Philippines and China exhibit the same level of corruption, yet China grew by 10.3 percent per year between 1990 and 2000, while the Philippines grew by only 3.3 percent. Moreover, as a recent study by Shaomin Lee and Judy Wu shows, "China is not alone; there are other countries that have relatively high corruption and high growth rates."
Limits of a Hegemonic Narrative
The "corruption-causes-poverty narrative" has become so hegemonic that it has often marginalized policy issues from political discourse. This narrative appeals to the elite and middle class, which dominate the shaping of public opinion. It's also a safe language of political competition among politicians. Political leaders can deploy accusations of corruption against one another for electoral effect without resorting to the destabilizing discourse of class.
Yet this narrative of corruption has increasingly less appeal for the poorer classes. Despite the corruption that marked his reign, Joseph Estrada is running a respectable third in the presidential contest in the Philippines, with solid support among many urban poor communities. But it is perhaps in Thailand where lower classes have most decisively rejected the corruption discourse, which the elites and Bangkok-based middle class deployed to oust Thaksin Shinawatra from the premiership in 2006.
While in power, Thaksin brazenly used his office to enlarge his corporate empire. But the rural masses and urban lower classes — the base of the so-called "Red Shirts" — have ignored this corruption and are fighting to restore his coalition to power. They remember the Thaksin period from 2001 to 2006 as a golden time. Thailand recovered from the Asian financial crisis after Thaksin kicked out the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the Thai leader promoted expansionary policies with a redistributive dimension, such as cheap universal health care, a one-million-baht development fund for each town, and a moratorium on farmers' servicing of their debt. These policies made a difference in their lives.
Thaksin's Red Shirts are probably right in their implicit assessment that pro-people policies are more decisive than corruption when it comes to addressing poverty. Indeed, in Thailand and elsewhere, clean-cut technocrats have probably been responsible for greater poverty than the most corrupt politicians. The corruption-causes-poverty discourse is no doubt popular with elites and international financial institutions because it serves as a smokescreen for the structural causes of poverty, and stagnation and wrong policy choices of the more transparent technocrats.
The Philippine Case
The case of the Philippines since 1986 illustrates the greater explanatory power of the "wrong-policy narrative" than the corruption narrative. According to an ahistorical narrative, massive corruption suffocated the promise of the post-Marcos democratic republic. In contrast, the wrong-policy narrative locates the key causes of Philippine underdevelopment and poverty in historical events and developments.
The complex of policies that pushed the Philippines into the economic quagmire over the last 30 years can be summed up by a formidable term: structural adjustment. Also known as neoliberal restructuring, it involves prioritizing debt repayment, conservative macroeconomic management, huge cutbacks in government spending, trade and financial liberalization, privatization and deregulation, and export-oriented production. Structural adjustment came to the Philippines courtesy of the World Bank, the IMF, and the World Trade Organization (WTO), but local technocrats and economists internalized and disseminated the doctrine.
Corazon Aquino was personally honest — indeed the epitome of non-corruption — and her contribution to the reestablishment of democracy was indispensable. But her acceptance of the IMF's demand to prioritize debt repayment over development brought about a decade of stagnation and continuing poverty. Interest payments as a percentage of total government expenditures went from 7 percent in 1980 to 28 percent in 1994. Capital expenditures, on the other hand, plunged from 26 percent to 16 percent. Since government is the biggest investor in the Philippines — indeed in any economy — the radical stripping away of capital expenditures helps explain the stagnant 1 percent average yearly growth in gross domestic product in the 1980s, and the 2.3 percent rate in the first half of the 1990s.
In contrast, the Philippines' Southeast Asian neighbors ignored the IMF's prescriptions. They limited debt servicing while ramping up government capital expenditures in support of growth. Not surprisingly, they grew by 6 to 10 percent from 1985 to 1995, attracting massive Japanese investment, while the Philippines barely grew and gained the reputation of a depressed market that repelled investors.
When Aquino's successor, Fidel Ramos, came to power in 1992, the main agenda of his technocrats was to bring down all tariffs to 0–5 percent and bring the Philippines into the WTO and the ASEAN Free Trade Area (AFTA), moves intended to make trade liberalization irreversible. A pick-up in the growth rate in the early years of Ramos sparked hope, but the green shoots were short-lived. Another neoliberal policy, financial liberalization, crushed this early promise. The elimination of foreign exchange controls and speculative investment restrictions attracted billions of dollars from 1993-1997. But this also meant that when panic hit Asian foreign investors in summer 1997, the same lack of capital controls facilitated the stampede of billions of dollars from the country in a few short weeks. This capital flight pushed the economy into recession and stagnation in the next few years.
The administration of the next president, Joseph Estrada, did not reverse course, and under the presidency of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, neoliberal policies continued to reign. Over the next few years, the Philippine government instituted new liberalization measures on the trade front, entering into free-trade agreements with Japan and China despite clear evidence that trade liberalization was destroying the two pillars of the economy: industry and agriculture. Radical unilateral trade liberalization severely destabilized the Philippine manufacturing sector. The number of textile and garments firms, for instance, drastically reduced from 200 in 1970 to 10 in recent years. As one of Arroyo's finance secretaries admitted, "There's an uneven implementation of trade liberalization, which was to our disadvantage." While he speculated that consumers might have benefited from the tariff liberalization, he acknowledged that "it has killed so many local industries."
As for agriculture, the liberalization of the country's agricultural trade after the country joined the WTO in 1995 transformed the Philippines from a net food-exporting country into a net food-importing country after the mid-1990s. This year the China ASEAN Trade Agreement (CAFTA), negotiated by the Arroyo administration, goes into effect, and the prospect of cheap Chinese produce flooding the Philippines has made Filipino vegetable farmers fatalistic about their survival.
During the long Arroyo reign, the debt-repayment-oriented macroeconomic management policy that came with structural adjustment stifled the economy. With 20-25 percent of the national budget reserved for debt service payments because of the draconian Automatic Appropriations Law, government finances were in a state of permanent and widening deficit, which the administration tried to solve by contracting more loans. Indeed, the Arroyo administration contracted more loans than the previous three administrations combined.
When the deficit reached gargantuan proportions, the government refused to declare a debt moratorium or at least renegotiate debt repayment terms to make them less punitive. At the same time, the administration did not have the political will to force the rich to take the brunt of bridging the deficit, by increasing taxes on their income and improving revenue collection. Under pressure from the IMF, the government levied this burden on the poor and the middle class by adopting an expanded value added tax (EVAT) of 12 percent on purchases. Commercial establishments passed on this tax to poor and middle-class consumers, forcing them to cut back on consumption. This then boomeranged back on small merchants and entrepreneurs in the form of reduced profits, forcing many out of business.
The straitjacket of conservative macroeconomic management, trade and financial liberalization, as well as a subservient debt policy, kept the economy from expanding significantly. As a result, the percentage of the population living in poverty increased from 30 to 33 percent between 2003 and 2006, according to World Bank figures. By 2006, there were more poor people in the Philippines than at any other time in the country's history.
Policy and Poverty in the Third World
The Philippine story is paradigmatic. Many countries in Latin America, Africa, and Asia saw the same story unfold. Taking advantage of the Third World debt crisis, the IMF and the World Bank imposed structural adjustment in over 70 developing countries in the course of the 1980s. Trade liberalization followed adjustment in the 1990s as the WTO, and later rich countries, dragooned developing countries into free-trade agreements.
Because of this trade liberalization, gains in economic growth and poverty reduction posted by developing countries in the 1960s and 1970s had disappeared by the 1980s and 1990s. In practically all structurally adjusted countries, trade liberalization wiped out huge swathes of industry, and countries enjoying a surplus in agricultural trade became deficit countries. By the beginning of the millennium, the number of people living in extreme poverty had increased globally by 28 million from the decade before. The number of poor increased in Latin America and the Caribbean, Central and Eastern Europe, the Arab states, and sub-Saharan Africa. The reduction in the number of the world's poor mainly occurred in China and countries in East Asia, which spurned structural readjustment policies and trade liberalization multilateral institutions and local neoliberal technocrats imposed other developing economies.
China and the rapidly growing newly industrializing countries of East and Southeast Asia, where most of the global reduction in poverty took place, were marked by high degrees of corruption. The decisive difference between their performance and that of countries subjected to structural adjustment was not corruption but economic policy.
Despite its malign effect on democracy and civil society, corruption is not the main cause of poverty. The "anti poverty, anti-corruption" crusades that so enamor the middle classes and the World Bank will not meet the challenge of poverty. Bad economic policies create and entrench poverty. Unless and until we reverse the policies of structural adjustment, trade liberalization, and conservative macroeconomic management, we will not escape the poverty trap.
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Show AllIn every society where government corruption is high, the inevitable happens. Corruption spreads throughout every branch. If government weren't so corrupted my family wouldn't be calling me a "loser" for my choices such as refusing to invest in the risky stock market and choosing to use my money to pay off my car loan sooner. Why should I corrupt myself into investing in Exxon and Mcdonalds stocks? So what if I don't build a big credit history because I choose to pay it off sooner than conform to monthly payments? That is part of my efforts in fighting corruption.
It took this person 24 parasgraphs to answer the question..."Does Corruption Create Poverty?"
DUH!
Mr. Kumar is correct, corruption rises in government and spreads in a 360 from there. Without corruption in government its very difficult for corruption to florish elsewhere.
This may be the most corrupt government in my lifetime.
Its the most corrupt government since Warren Harding was president nearly 90 years ago.
Oh, come on, now. W had the title hands down, no questions asked. He and his administration didn't even TRY to cover it up. It was glaringly obvious. This admin, no matter what you may think of Obama, is nowhere NEAR as crooked as that.
And BTW, at least Harding did the country (and himself) a favor and died early. Saved the country the cost of investigating him. W just made sure that he stacked every court possible, so no charges would EVER surface. I would have preferred that he chose the Harding approach, but then we would have been stuck with Cheney...
WJM
Though I must agree with you that Bush/Cheney put Harding out to pasture as the title holder, this administration and this Congress now have the title now, hands down, no contest.
I hold this President in contempt for all his broken promises and pledges, his outright lies to the American people and his voyage of arrogant choices rather than address the countries need's and ill's. I hold Pelosi and her Congress in far more contempt than Mr. Obama.
NO CONTEST!
You must be reading different news pieces than I am. You must be really gullible to think that a politician WON'T tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get your vote. I EXPECT that.
I'm not an Obama follower per se, I was for Kucinich, but Obama is the president, and so I have no choice but to go with him. But really, look at things that we are seeing. The economy is starting to recover, with the stock market up over 11,000 (though I do NOT like or see the need for the SM, other than to give rich people something to do with the money they steal from workers), unemployment numbers are looking better, we have (though not in a way I would prefer) added 30 MILLION Americans to the roles of the insured, banking reform is on the way, and 95% of Americans got a tax CUT for a change. And for ANY president to have done that much in less than 2 years is astonishing.
In Reagan's first THREE years, he didn't do much but drive unemployment up to over 10% with his policies. Wages and benefits, as well as jobs, took a nosedive, and the rich just got richer the whole time. And still, people worship him like he was a god. I will NEVER understand that at all.
Sorry, but I don't see the same level of corruption that I saw with Reagan, GHW Bush and W. I just don't think it's possible to even say anything like that at this point.
Sioux Rose
WJM: With all due respect, please, I beg you... put down the Kool aid now!
Unemployment numbers are better? Sure. They generally stop counting those who have been out of work for extended periods.
The stock market is up. Gee. Print money to the tune of several trillion, pass it out to bankers like casino chips ripe for the betting... and presto! Numbers go up. What about the REAL economy? And by that I mean production, the net worth of homes across the nation, the diminishing quality of LIFE for so many?
Those numbers are a hoax. Did you miss recent CD columns about the extent to which the faux product known as the derivative has infilitrated the actual currency and industrial goods markets? Smoke and mirrors...
Just as the TV commercial puts it, "There's a lot riding on your tires," that is a metaphor that works for the Obama administration. He was elected on a wave of hope (or inverted despair) and with the nation's vehicle rushing to the edge of the cliff on bald tires, MOST expected a change in direction. There was NONE. Zero. Iota.
Any talk now about curbing Wall St, or Goldman, with Goldman's boys AT the wheel... is as another poster put it, just a sacrificial rite... some token to throw to the hungry masses to give the appearance that matters are being corrected, that some modicum of justice still exists in the land of the endlessly corrupt.
CYGNUS is very on target when he speaks about the need for the public to regain its airwaves. By handing out the bandwidths, a/k/a the DIGITAL frontier, to the pre-existing huge broadcast corporations, candidates thereafter had to pay the BIG BUCKS for TV time, the staple "product" required to win an election. Thus beholden to the lobbyists who whore for the corporations, the state of legislation in our land 99% of the time attests to this sinister "buyout." WE, the people, don't even get crumbs... our waterways are big pharma's dumping ground. Our forests are burning, hurricanes are hitting big cities on a more regular basis, health care was allotted to the equivalent of price gauging toll booth operators, wars continue... and you try to say it's better with Obama?
Remember... we're riding on bald tires now... and the pretender-in-chief could care LESS. Depraved indifference to life counts for a lot! As some astute thinkers in this forum have pointed out, had a continuation of these egregious policies taken place under a Republican, the left, democrats with a conscience, progressives, greens would have MOBILIZED. Unfortunately, the wind was taken out of their sails due to the fact they HEAR about all these "reforms," and they HEAR about all these things Obama is doing when in fact, the guy whirls like a Dervish only satisfying the highest paid bidders in his disingenuous courtship dance... the public gets lost in all the diversions these tantalizing empty moves present while the wars, looting, and climate changes go on. With TRAGIC consequences only beginning to reverberate.
Please. No more apologies...
Well said! In my previous post, I was going to get to the bankers, financial services companies, disaster scoping scumsucking companies, telcos, MSM, etc etc etc…but had to get to work soon.
Thanks for your excellent input.
WJM
Obama is the President, I unfortunately voterd for him...Mea Culpa!
Let me assure you the economy is not starting to recover, small business is at a stand still and will be till the democrats stop their absurd antics. Unemployment has not changed, the real numbers are worse. As far as 30 stiocks on the Dow, they mean nothing to the average citizen of our country except that their 401 might have recovered some of their loss.
They did do a piddling tax cut already offset by their passage of the health care bill and their out of control spending.
Reagan brought Carters inflation under control and did do something to begin to getting the economy moving again and restoring jobs. Something this President and Congress have done absolutely nothing about, the latter of course, they are providing the former soon enough.
I must disagree, I have never seen the degree of corruption, the level of any course or method to get what you want or to pass a bill, a complete refusal to listen to the wishes of the American people as this bunch. We'll just agree to disagree, Obama. Pelosi win hands down in my opinion.
Be well!
Wow do you and I have a completely different view of reality, and history as well. Carter's inflation, as you call it, was his being a responsible human and paying the bill for Viet Nam. THAT is why we had such inflation at the time, not because he was doing something wrong. It was the inevitable paying off of our debt for something we had been doing off budget.
Reagan FIXED that? Yeah, RIGHT. By giving rich people tax cuts that brought investment to a halt and raised our unemployment level to over 10% and that went on for the first THREE YEARS of his presidency. And things didn't get any better until he enacted a AX INCREASE, which, in fact, was the largest increase in our history. Funny as hell how people don't bother to check out the actual numbers when they make statements like that.
As to the corruption of bill passing, you CLEARLY don't remember a guy named TOM DELAY, who not only threatened members of his own party to get them to vote for things, but also bribed others as well. He also kept votes open for over 3 HOURS when the usual time is about 15 minutes. He passed things in the middle of the night (LITERALLY) when it was clear that he didn't want the publicity. If you haven't seen such corruption before, then you REALLY haven't been paying attention, or you have one of the world's shortest memory.
And let's not forget Boehner, walking around the floor handing out checks from the tobacco lobby, essentially flaunting the corruption that he was and is in up to his fake tanned ass.
This is just off the top of my head, without doing any research to refresh my own faulty memory. There is NO corruption like republican corruption. If you just don't remember any of this, then I suggest that you do some more research before you make such statements.
And to everyone else who is bad mouthing the current president, I doubt that he would have been able to do ANYTHING to make you people happy. He didn't pass mine safety before people got killed. He didn't pass health care the EXACT way you wanted him to. He didn't do this, that, or the other thing in time for your schedule. Guess what? He didn't do a lot of the things that I wanted him to do either. But he's still one HELL of a lot better than McCain, Palin, or ANY other GODDAMNED republican would have DREAMED of being. Can you even IMAGINE where we would be with the dottering old fool and Caribou Barbie instead?
I'm a Kucinich guy, I wanted single payer, I wanted charges filed against the entire last administration, and I want the republicans to start acting like ADULTS. I know that I will NEVER see the last one, but that is beyond anyone else's control. But for the love of God, the current president has been in office for less than a year and a half. It took 30 years for the republicans to fuck things up this badly, and you think that a wave of the magic wand will fix everything overnight?
Grow up, folks, you're NEVER going to get everything you want. Even the scum bag republicans didn't get everything they wanted when they held everything, and thank God for that. We won't get everything we want, either, and I think it's time that you stop being such a bunch of bad mouthing schmucks. We get MORE than enough of that from the jerk offs on the right, we don't need to do it ourselves. I don't see ANY of you even TRYING to be a part of any solution, you're just bitching because that is what people DO, now adays, thank you republican party.
Give the man a freaking chance, he's got a HUGE, greedy, selfish country to have to deal with, and hasn't been in office long enough to do HALF of what you all are bitching about. Get over it and if you aren't making your wishes and desires known to those who CAN change things, then stop beating ME over the head for NOT being as cynical and hateful as YOU are. I prefer to have a glass that is half full as opposed to a glass that my own side of things is punching holes in. It really pisses me off when people aren't even willing to stop being cynical long enough to give someone a shot, or even to try to influence them where possible.
You can get SOME of what you want, but you will NEVER get everything. Grow up and get over it.
"You can get SOME of what you want, but you will NEVER get everything."
You got that all wrong. Wall Street and the wealthy elite are getting everything they want and faster than expected while Main Street is being put unfairly on the waiting list and being given the shafts faster and worse than what even the Republicans have done at their worst. As a practical liberal who used to be a blind fool talking like you are doing right now, I say it's time for you to grow up and wipe that Obama koolaid off your lips !
"I'm a Kucinich guy"
Even after Kucinich not only caved in but shored up support for this regressive scam that passed? You really need to read that bill and be prepared to weep.
"Give the man a freaking chance, he's got a HUGE, greedy, selfish country to have to deal with, and hasn't been in office long enough to do HALF of what you all are bitching about."
We already did and look what he's doing with that "chance". You sound exactly like those HEEHAW CLOWNS over at the Daily Hoax and Fluffington Post !
"I don't see ANY of you even TRYING to be a part of any solution, you're just bitching because that is what people DO, now adays, thank you republican party. "
Nobody told you to read and complain either. Forums are meant to discuss and honesty can't hurt because it can bring knowledge and awareness that is the power that just might set things straight. Other than the Obama apologists, there aren't any Republicans here.
"stop beating ME over the head for NOT being as cynical and hateful as YOU are. I prefer to have a glass that is half full as opposed to a glass that my own side of things is punching holes in."
You're making an ASS out of yourself by LYING to yourself ! I would rather have an honest glass even if it is broken than a glass of hot air to blind one from reality. Clear the fog and wake up.
"W just made sure that he stacked every court possible, so no charges would EVER surface."
We know all about W. Obama, through his own DOJ, has sought to continue the cover-up of the Bush Administration's crimes. The leadership of the Democratic Party in general, have sought to cover-up the Bush Administration's crimes. Remember when Karl Rove was subpoenaed to appear shortly after Obama the Great Pretender was elected? What happened to that? Have the Democrats with their control of the House, Senate, and the Presidency, actually taken to task and held accountable a single Bush Administration figure? The Democrats have taken millions and millions of dollars of corrupting loot, from Insurance Companies, Big Pharma, the Big traditional Military Contractors like GE, Boeing, etc, the new Mercenary Military Contractors, etc, etc, etc.
Obama is for a renaissance of Nuclear Reactors paid for and guaranteed against risk largely by taxpayers, and he wants to open up the East Coast for oil drilling, and he signed that Insurance Coverage Bill to cover Health Insurers paid for by public mandate, which includes a provision that sets back reproductive health for women decades, he just had his DOJ indict a Whistleblower who's only crime was to try and expose crimes by the Bush Administration's NSA violating our 4th Amendment rights. In those Whistleblower cases, the Obama DOJ has asserted plenary executive powers, and State Secret assertions that even the Bush Administration didn't pursue. It is John Kerry coauthoring a provision of the upcoming Environmental Bill, and that Obama will surely sign, that will ban enforcement by the EPA of enforcing the Clean Air Act, and will disallow states from crafting their own laws to make up for the breach, like the law passed in California in response to Bush's defanged EPA. It is Democrat Obama, who signed a law allowing the open carry of guns in National Parks. Obama and the Democratic Leadership has chosen to continue emergency requests for war funding, and Obama is expanding the war in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, etc. It is Obama, with his draconian Educational Reform Policies that are resulting in teachers being forced out, and thus diminishing power of teachers' unions. I almost forgot, Obama wants access to Cell phone GPS information from service providers on a whim, no search warrant needed.
I have to get to work, I've run out of time to list the rest.
Yeah Bush was bad, and there are a lot of good Democrats, however the leadership of the Democratic Party is bought and paid for by the same corrupting influences that corrupt the Republican Party.
I've been an apologist for the Democratic party, but I've been cured after seeing their performance since getting the Presidency, House, and Senate.
I don't disagree with much of what you say here. Believe me, I'm not a huge fan of alot of what is going on, but at the same time, you have to remember a few other things. The DOJ is FULL of W appointees. And the number of not just not approved, but not even DISCUSSED Obama appointees is larger than any president in history has EVER had. The repubs won't ALLOW votes to be taken on over 75 of them. So is it ANY wonder that there have been no charges? It's STILL W's ass kissers in office in the day to day running of things.
Would I like to see charges against the previous administration? You bet I would. I'd almost pay for it myself, but I don't have that kind of cash. I'd LOVE to see them all swinging from a yardarm, to be honest. I can't think of anything that this country NEEDS more than some REAL accountability. But the "tradition", at least since Ford, is to let the guilty slide off into the next appointed gov't job the next time you get in power. That is how we ended up stuck with Cheney and Rummy to begin with.
You say that Obama wants this and Obama wants that, but the actions of his subordinates isn't the same as his personal endorsement. In Colorado, recently, we had a DEA scum bag decide to bust a grow room operation that was licensed by the state, something that the DEA said that it would NOT do. But this jerk saw a guy on TV talking about it and the NEXT DAY he busted the guy, against the direct orders of the president, HIS BOSS. Do you blame the president or the asshole DEA scum bag? I blame the ones who actually DO the damage.
Sorry, but I just don't see the same level of anti American behavior I saw for the last 25 years from those on the right. They declared a war on the people of this country and waged it with a passion. We are now living with the results of their war, and I just can't see Obama as the same kind of scum they are. People are going back to work, for a change, and that alone is worth more than ANYTHING W did during his disastrous 8 years.
DO I approve of everything he is doing? Not by a long shot. But it's still better than ANYTHING W put us through.Some things take time, and recovering from 30 years of republican destruction will take more than a year and a half. And when you have to clean up so much filth, some of it WILL get on you. We have NEVER had a president left with so much filth and thank GOD we didn't get stuck with McCain and Caribou Barbie.
Obama appointed Holder. If Obama did not want his DOJ, for instance, to prosecute the NSA whistleblower, then that wouldn't have happened regardless of whether or not there are some Bush appointees still lurking.
I don't have the energy to rebut each of your points of apology for Obama, but I will say this much…
over the last 25 years, it has been Democrats along with Republicans that brought us NAFTA, GATT, the WTO – the results of which have absolutely devastated/disappeared the middle class. The Commodities Futures Modernization Act, which allowed complete deregulation of derivatives, is the main culprit of the economic collapse, and that was signed by none other than Bill Clinton, who took his advice from Robert Rubin, his appointed secretary of the Treasury, that it would be just the best thing since fried chicken.
You speak of the war...presuming the Iraq War. Democrats signed onto that war. Democrats stood by while people were tortured, having been briefed on the EIT being used. Pelosi claimed that she didn't know at the time anyone was being waterboarded. When she did find out, she did nothing at all. A big, fat, nothing.
Senator Feinstein was to already have completed her investigation of torture and submitted a report. That has fallen down the memory hole, and won't again emerge.
As for people out of work, and those heroic Democrats who over the last 30 years just didn't have a chance to craft anything different. Actually, Clinton rode the tech bubble, and sat by watching US jobs being shipped overseas, and his economic policies encouraged those companies to sell the American worker down the river.
Where is the push right now to close the off shore tax loopholes? Obama sure talked a lot about it during the campaign.
There seems to be a continuous stream of corrupt politicians screwing us no?
By the way, please give us an example of where Obama and the Democratic leadership is cleaning up filth from the Bush Administration. Just one name who has been, or is being held accountable for anything at all. Perhaps I've missed it.
Excellent points one and all.
Sioux Rose
HUE-SIR: You lay out an admirable case. However, you did not mention that Obama went along with the massive bankers' bailout, has done NOTHING to reinstate real regulation, and has appointed the perpetrators of this unimaginable heist into positions where they essentially are granted the honor of acting as foxes free to guard (HA!) the hen house. Scams R'U.S. unlimited...
I never thought it would get this bad under a Democrat. ANY pretense of improvement by voting the D instead of independent/green is now absolutely gone... with the next Supreme Court nominee apt to add yet another insult to injury.
Who will (inform!) tell the people...
It's allways been corrupt! If anyones to blame for the current mess it's Roosevelt with his One World Order/League of Nations crap! which lead to IMF and WTO and universal bankrupsy. A nation can be as corrupt as China and Japan and have 10%+ growth as long as they ignore the Globalist Money Changers! The Phillipnes sounds very much like our Midwest / Rust-Belt. Free-Trade has gutted this Country! and will turn us into another 3rd world shit-hole unless we sober-up NOW!
According to Michael Parenti CAPITALISM causes poverty. Before dismissing this notion I urge you to listen to 2 of his presentations:
Conspiracy and Class Power
Lies, War and Empire
Both are available on Google.
Corruption: As in Wall Street Bankers in particular and Corporations in general? A corrupt corporate congress is a given!
I just love it when people like the world bank and the IMF go around bitching about gov't being the problem, NOT them and their greedy, selfish policies. And those policies are EXACTLY the problem for large numbers of countries.
The IMF was created after WWII, with the intention of screwing the people of Europe who needed money to rebuild themselves. They WANTED to provide that money, with the intention of dictating how those countries would spend their own money, and make sure that the rich got richer.
Europe was too smart to take that bait, and so the IMF went after the third world. The leaders of those countries were easily bribed, and since they really didn't care how much hardship their country went through as long as they got theirs, the resulting economic disasters were severe and deadly to the people of those countries.
Look into the polices of the world bank and the IMF and tell me that YOU would want YOUR country to have to live under these rules. They essentially cripple the country so that it NEVER gets on it's feet, and THIS is where the REAL problem lies. In fact, the very corruption they are bitching about is BROUGHT ABOUT by their very policies.
The world bank and the IMF should be disbanded, stripped of every penny they have, and that money returned to the countries that they have screwed over the years. Money is a tool, not a means to it's own end. It should be returned to it's position as a tool. And all the tools in the world bank and the IMF should be locked up for the rest of their lives.
WJM, try convincing my family and half the Indian American community that the IMF and the World Bank are devils pretending to help. They will worship it as if it's another Hindu Temple but try to bring any sense to them and they call us mental cases and engage in hostile replies of insults and hate. The same is true for some of the poor in India. India's government, while not as corrupt as the USA's, is corrupt enough to spread its share of corruption to the people. They still think that the World Bank and the IMF are its saviors when they aren't. Until enough people can rise above corruption, I find no hope of reversing government corruption.
I feel for you in regards to your family. It seems that myopia is not just an American issue. I can't convince my own friends that what they are listening to on the radio is polluting their minds, there is no way I can convince your family.
But all you have to do is to look at those places where the IMF and the World bank have put their "loans" and see what kind of policies are enacted to comply with the conditions. They are HEAVILY slanted towards the rich, towards making them richer, and screwing those people who aren't in that group. They essentially gut a country's ability to take care of itself and to make it's own decisions for itself. Their policies are as right wing and inhuman as can be, and it's all for the profit for the very few.
Good luck with your family, but we have those same kinds of people in this country. They are low information people and there are those among them that you will NEVER bring to the water of truth, let alone get them to drink it. They will fight you to the death to remain in bondage to those with less brains but more money. And they will work and hope, but they will never get any further ahead than the insanely rich want them to. And no doubt they will blame the lower classes for this situation, just like the same people do here.
Let's look inside our own hearts, HONESTLY, before projecting blame on others. As Thich Nhat Hanh and many other great philosophers have said,
EVERY POSSIBILITY IS PRESENT IN EVERY HUMAN HEART.
"yet China grew by 10.3 percent per year between 1990 and 2000, while the Philippines grew by only 3.3 percent."
You do realise that China is MUCH larger than the Philippines yes? And that might, just might have an effect on economic growth?
". Moreover, as a recent study by Shaomin Lee and Judy Wu shows, "China is not alone; there are other countries that have relatively high corruption and high growth rates."
The link doesn't work. Working link, in PDF form:
http://web.rollins.edu/
~tlairson/china/chicorrupt.pdf
Bello conveniently chooses not to mention that Lee and Wu do not agree with him that corruption does not matter. Their argument is basically that corruption matters, but how mnuch it matters is affected by levels of public trust in a society, trust between strangers.
"In contrast, the Philippines' Southeast Asian neighbors ignored the IMF's prescriptions. They limited debt servicing while ramping up government capital expenditures in support of growth. Not surprisingly, they grew by 6 to 10 percent from 1985 to 1995, attracting massive Japanese investment, while the Philippines barely grew and gained the reputation of a depressed market that repelled investors.
while the Philippines barely grew and gained the reputation of a depressed market that repelled investors."
Yes, the Philippines SE Asian neighbours such as Singapore and Malaysia ignored the IMF. They also have progressively worked at reducing corruption.
"f East and Southeast Asia, where most of the global reduction in poverty took place, were marked by high degrees of corruption. The decisive difference between their performance and that of countries subjected to structural adjustment was not corruption but economic policy."
The key word here is WERE. WERE. Whereas in Bello's country it IS. IS. Look at the rankings for corruption, from organisations such as Transparency International. The Philippines is (far) behind those of its SE and East Asian neighbours that have experienced the rapid growth he wants, in terms of perceptions of corruption.
The United States has no room to call ANY OTHER country corrupt!!!!!
There are far more corrupt governments in the world than ours. Start in Burma or North Korea (I refuse to use the Junta's new name) and work your way around the world, you will find plenty.
Lesson:
We knew that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But the young Jane Goodall, starting her studies of chimpanzees, accidentally discovered that the corruption has a biological basis in great apes. The donnybrook for ALPHA status takes place among males with like-sized testicles. The prize for the new Alpha is blood chemistry change that in a short time can cause nearly a trebling of size. President Lyndon Johnson was known to manipulate male subordinates into looking at his balls. In frustration Lady Bird cut down all the billboards.
Trylon
I think that Mr.Bello makes a compelling argument that although corruption is a factor in any country it is the policies implemented by governments that has the greatest effect on the economy.
It would seem only logical . If corruption has more influence than government policy then it would seem to me the crooks have more power than the government. Could it really be called a government if the crooks power is greater?
An interesting article that supports my theory of why I consider myself to be progressive.
Of course, corruption is bad and needs to be eliminated! But I agree with the author that it is not the main issue. Blaming everything on corrupt individuals is just another example of political eugenics--weed out the "bad" people and all will be well. A family member (a banker who is a hard-core conservative and total Bush supporter) still insists, despite overwhelming evidence, that the Great Recession was brought about by a few crooks on Wall Street and a lot of stupid home-buyers. He cannot conceive that the problem is systemic--and he opposes any kind of regulatory approach.
In a nutshell, I tend to focus on systemic and overall policy problems, while non-progressives tend to blame certain groups of people in order to create an us-against-them mindset.
Sioux Rose
FIVE: I agree. I would merely add that Naomi Klein has done a scholarship job of articulating precisely how these dynamics work in her opus, "The Shock Doctrine." It is a MUST read. Bello adds a light new layer, but Ms. Klein "baked" the cake.
The "corruption causes poverty" argument which Bello rightly criticizes is, in my view analogous to the "greed" explanation for the financial "crisis". It's just "a few bad apples." This argument leaves intact and unexamined the systemic causes of poverty (or the financial crisis for that matter). In other words, these problems are "natural" to the crisis prone and wealth concentrating (and poverty producing) tendencies innate to capitalism.
Historically and politically, the term "radical" has meant those who "go to the root" (as in mathematics) of the problem, who look at systemic or structural reasons to explain aspects of society. So, I would argue that your "focus on systemic and overall policy problems" is better described as a "radical" analysis than a progressive one.
Corruption causes poverty? Interesting idea. I think he's got it backwards.Poverty causes corruption.In societies were most everyone except for the elite is poor, all government institutions and business bureaucracies are staffed by poor people. The only way to get anything done efficiently is for a poor person to come up with enough money to bribe a poor person in a position of power-more power than he's got,anyway.If you're smart, and you've got a little more money, you'll bribe somebody further up the food chain (who, because he's been taking bribes for a life-time, may be rather well off) Add nepotism, and the natural tendency of human beings to want to deal with their 'friends', or at least people you know (i.e I know some one who etc. a 'fixer'), and you have the perfect recipe for corruption derived from poverty.What explains the corruption of the US is a whole other question.
Government is formed by people. If people want poverty, they will elect a corrupt government. If people were not corrupt, third parties would have won.
Liberal perspective. The system works. We just need to get "our" people into office. If people would just get off their butts and vote, everything would be fine...
Elections have shown that higher turnout usually helps liberals win. If you don't vote or you vote for a party that has no chance of winning an election, then you are voting status quo by default.
So what? The electoral system as designed, concentrates power in 2 parties. And with gerrymandered electoral districts, places far too much power in small minorities of swing voters.
The gerrymandered districts won't be resolved with just putting third parties to power even if they make it to elected office without corruption along the way.
"Elections have shown that higher turnout usually helps liberals win"
Excuse me...liberals are about a quarter of the electorate, how does one arrive at that conclusion?
Conservatives are also a quarter of the electorate. That means that half of the electorate is moderate and practical. If liberals reach out to moderates and conservatives and keep the base satisfied, then they'll turn out for the liberals. In 1992, 2006, and 2008, higher turnout helped the Democrats win. In 1994, 2000, 2002, and 2004, lower overall turnout helped the Republicans win.
".....corruption is not the principal cause of poverty and economic stagnation,...."
No, corruption presents itself after "ignorance, stupidity and greed" have been adopted and accepted as values by an un-accountable government and its dimwitted slaves.
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." -- George Orwell
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." -- George Orwell
Sadly, excellent quote
Mr. Bello's main premise is wrong and misleading. "World Bank and Transparency International data show that the Philippines and China exhibit the same level of corruption, yet China grew by 10.3 percent per year between 1990 and 2000, while the Philippines grew by only 3.3 percent" The source of the information is the corrupt government of China. How are rewards of such "growth" distributed? The United States corporations control over 60 percent of all Chinese manufacturing.The main source of quasi-slave labor in China are peasants from the countryside.The blood of Tianmen soaks their exports. There is a hegemony and it's the U.S. business empire. These are symptoms of systemic corruption. There is no reform that can change this dystopia. That includes any of Mr. Obama's "reforms". There are solutions but Democrats, Liberals and Progressives want them in the existing framework. This is not possible.
Is creating poverty not corruption?
Is creating poverty not, in fact, the principal, primary, most obtrusive and identifiable, sin qua non and definitive act of corruption?
Let us not imagine that there is anything in corruption that prevents the corrupt from accusing other parties of corruption: the WB and IMF can accuse these leaders of anything.
Examples abound. Noriega corrupt? Sure. Contributed to poverty? Sure. Invaded by US because corrupt? Nope. The people who had bribed him invaded seeking more direct control.
Much of the trouble here comes because casual readers and peripheral players fail to understand that local corruption does not exonerate foreign interests but is deputized by foreign interests.