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Where Are This War’s Heroes, Military and Journalistic?
When Charlie Company's Lt. William Calley ordered and encouraged his men to rape, maim and slaughter over 400 women and children and old people in My Lai in Vietnam back in 1968, there were at least four heroes who tried to stop him or bring him and higher officers to justice. One was helicopter pilot Hugh Thompson Jr., who evacuated some of the wounded victims, and who set his chopper down between a group of Vietnamese and Calley's men, ordering his door gunner to open fire on the US soldiers if they shot any more people. One was Ron Ridenhour, a soldier who learned of the massacre, and began a private investigation, ultimately reporting the crime to the Pentagon and Congress. One was Michael Bernhardt, a soldier in Charlie Company who witnessed the whole thing, and reported it all to Ridenhour (also confiding that if Ridenhour didn't succeed in getting prosecutions going he had a hit list of all the officers involved and planned to execute them himself!). And one was journalist Seymour Hersh, who broke the story in the US media.
Today's war in Afghanistan also has its My Lai massacres. It has them almost weekly, as US warplanes bomb wedding parties, or homes "suspected" of housing terrorists that turn out to house nothing but civilians. But these My Lais are all conveniently labeled accidents. They get filed away and forgotten as the inevitable "collateral damage" of war. There was, however, a massacre recently that was not a "mistake"--a massacre which, while it only involved fewer than a dozen innocent people, bears the same stench as My Lai. It was the execution-style slaying of eight handcuffed students, aged 11-18, and a 12-year-old neighboring shepherd boy who had been visiting the others, in Kunar Province, on Dec. 26.
Sadly, no principled soldier with a conscience like pilot Hugh Thompson tried to save these children. No observer had the guts of a Michael Brernhardt to report what he had seen. No Ron Ridenhour among the other serving US troops in Afghanistan has investigated this atrocity or reported it to Congress. And no American reporter has investigated this war crime the way Seymour Hersh investigated My Lai.
There is a Seymour Hersh for the Kunar massacre, but he's a Brit. While American reporters like the anonymous journalistic drones who wrote CNN's December 29 report on the incident took the Pentagon's initial cover story--that the dead were part of a secret bomb-squad--at face value, Jerome Starkey, a dogged reporter in Afghanistan working for the Times of London and the Scotsman, talked to other sources--the dead boys' headmaster, other townspeople, and Afghan government officials--and found out the real truth about a gruesome war crime--the execution of handcuffed children. And while a few news outlets in the US like the New York Times did mention that there were some claims that the dead were children, not bomb-makers, none, including CNN, which had bought and run the Pentagon's lies unquestioningly, bothered to print the news update when, on Feb. 24, the US military admitted that in fact the dead were innocent students. Nor has any US corporate news organization mentioned that the dead had been handcuffed when they were shot.
Starkey reported the US government's damning admission. Yet still the US media remain silent as the grave.
Under the Geneva Conventions, it is a war crime to execute a captive. Yet in Kunar on December 26, US-led forces, or perhaps US soldiers or contract mercenaries, cold-bloodedly executed nine hand-cuffed prisoners. It is a war crime to kill children under the age of 15, yet in this incident a boy of 11 and a boy of 12 were handcuffed as captured combatants and executed. Two others of the dead were 12 and a third was 15. These are capital offenses under the Geneva Conventions, to which the US is a signatory. So is covering up the crime, all the way up the chain of command.
I called the Secretary of Defense's office to ask if any investigation was underway into this crime or if one was planned, and was told I had to send a written request, which I did. To date, I have heard nothing. The Pentagon PR machine pretended to me on the phone that they didn't even know what incident I was talking about, but without their "help" I have learned that what the US military has done--no surprise--is to pass the buck by leaving any investigation to the International Security Assistance Force--a fancy name for the US-led NATO force fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's a clever ruse. The ISAF is no more a genuine coalition entity than was George Bush's Iraq War Coalition of the Willing, but this dodge makes legislative investigation of the event impossible, since Congress has no authority to compel testimony from NATO or the ISAF as it would the Pentagon. A source at the Senate Armed Services Committee confirms that the ISAF is investigating, and that the committee has asked for a "briefing"--that means nothing would be under oath--once that investigation is complete, but don't hold your breath or expect anything dramatic.
I also contacted the press office of the House Armed Services Committee to see if any hearings into this crime have been planned. The answer is no, though the press officer asked me to send her details of the incident (Not a good sign that House members and staff are paying much attention--the killings led to country-wide student demonstrations in Afghanistan, to a formal protest by the office of President Hamid Karzai, and to an investigation by the Afghan government, which concluded that innocent students had been handcuffed and executed, and no doubt contributed to a call by the Afghan government for prosecution and execution of American soldiers who kill Afghan civilians.)
There is still time for real heroes to stand up in the midst of this imperial adventure that may now appropriately be called Obama's War in Afghanistan. Plenty of men and women in uniform in Afghanistan know that nine innocent Afghan children were captured and murdered at America's hands last December in Kunar. There are also probably people who were involved in the planning or carrying out of this criminal operation who are sickened by what happened. But these people are so far holding their tongues, whether out of fear, or out of simply not knowing where to turn (Note: If you have information you may contact me). There are also plenty of reporters in Afghanistan and in Washington who could be investigating this story. They are not. Don't ask me why. They certainly should not be able to call themselves journalists--at least with a straight face.
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Show Allgreat article. I woke up to the news this morning that several people were found guilty of plotting to attack US bases. They are going to prison.
So why aren't our leaders going to prison for planning to attack a city full of innocent civilians?
Or for attacking Falujah and dropping 'willy pete' all over it, or the many drones that just happened to go off course and wipe out entire families?
Or the pilot that blew up a wedding party in Iraq?
Because it is ok if it is the US.
If you fight an invading army, you are an insurgent.
But if you are part of the invading army your are a patriot.
What is wrong with this picture?
What is wrong with this world.
In one part we have wars going on all the time.
In another, we have disasters, and the people who are fighting the wars give money to the disaster people, then turn around and start killing people in the war area>
Sorry for the rant this morning.
Just so damn sick of humans.
Killing, maiming, destroying all for money.
Maybe Climate Change is God's way of saying, FU. You guys don't get the message
The Whole Bush War Theater has been a Bloody WAR CRIME from beginning to today; the despicable Presidents, executive staffs and complicitous dupes, WAR CRIMINALS, ALL; and US: Warcimination! Wir haben schuld!!
Fuck the Geneva Convention, that's just a communist document. Screw the War Crimes Commission of the World Court -- that does apply to the United States. To hell with our own laws and military regulations; they just words on paper.
America the baby killer. All hail!
Gary
"The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you."
-- Rita Mae Brown
Obviously Dave, you're not familiar with Article 1 Section 11 of the Constitution (It's a new section) which states:
...The President shall look FORWARD, not BACKWARD, when an officer, congressperson or executive branch member violates either treaty or federal law if said violation could cause embarrassment, prison or loss of corporate funding, especially during times of never ending illegal war.
The malformed babies of Fallujah say it all - there ain't no heroes.
This Brit story will never see the light of day in the US - unless it is to say that "it is the babies' own fault - for being conceived in Fallujah!"
But I could be wrong !
Are we such "Good Amerikaners" that we accept the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in order to kill a few hundred "bad guys"?
Maybe "accept" is too generous. We don't even give it a second thought, because we are the "good guys".
- that may now appropriately be called Obama's War in Afghanistan. -
With all due respect, that's a lousy name for a war.
I suggest yet again that this is the same war as the war against al-Qaeda in Yemen and Somalia and Iraq and Syria and everywhere else.
This is the DAFT war, caused by Public Law 107-40. Ignoring this law won't make this insanity stop.
Comparing My Lai to mistaken bombings of weddings or houses that had civilians in them rather than fighters is bull shit Dave and you know it. I'm surprised you'd make that claim.
I've never even heard anyone, not even the most ardent opponent of Bush and his wars suggest that a wedding or house was bombed intentionally or was anything other than a mistake.
Theres plenty wrong over there without this kind of "Bush/Cheney" truth.
You'd be right if one wedding were bombed, but the frequency of the bombings of civic ceremonies means that there is a callous disregard for life in Afghanistan (and Iraq before it) that crosses the line into mass murder and war criminality.
And that's not all. The over 100 civilians, at least a quarter of them children, who were killed in Helmand Province, in the early days of the Obama war, were bombed and blown away by AC130 gunships, simply to hit at the few Taliban who were thought to be among them. This was a war crime pure and simple. The people don't count. They're just in the way.
Same with the dead in Marjah. When a house containing 12 people was struck by missiles, the military originally claimed that it was a targeting error. Later, they were forced to admit (because such a gross error with that particular weapons system would have required them to pull it out of service, and they wanted to keep using it), that the house had been deliberately targeted, and screw the locals.
This IS the truth.
The truth is that, just as in Iraq, just as in Vietnam, the US military doesn't give a rat's ass about the lives of the people it is claiming to be "protecting." If they're in the way, they get mowed down. If they look vaguely suspicious, they get shot. If they're in a house that is suspected of holding an enemy fighter, they get bombed.
You want to see the difference? The casualties among the French, when the US battled its way from Normandy to the Rhine, suffered very few casualties, because the US and Allied forces genuinely cared about civilians and perceived their role as being liberators. That is not how this war is being fought.
The situation is exactly analogous to Vietnam, and the stage has been set for many My Lais in Afghanistan.
You can pretend it is different, but when it happens over, and over, and over, we are talking about murder, not mistakes.
Dave Lindorff
www.thiscantbehappening.net
Visit Dave Lindorff's website at www.thiscantbehappening.net
Dave thanks for taking the time to respond here, it's quite nice to have the original authors perspective on our comments.
Firing missiles into a populated civilian area as the U.S. has done probably literally tens of thousands of times is a violation of the Geneva Conventions and *will* kill civilians thus making it intentional. The result is grieving mothers holding the charred remains of their dead children. Hang *both* the Bush and Obama administrations military leadership and "commander in chief" for war crimes I say. Hint in killing a million innocents in Iraq we are already 1/6th of the way to a Holocaust.
Sioux Rose
Alas, Thomas More, your kneejerk loyalty to the always-right US marines is showing. What the f--k does it matter if it was a mistake? People are left dead. Inevitably. And this "mistake" is now a FACT of war. More civilians are killed than "enemy combatants" in all modern conflicts. That means the citizens are just seen as collateral damage. No one should defend the US military today. IF it was a matter of TRULY protecting citizens of this nation from foreign enemies, you'd have a case to stand on. The fact is, and the Smedley Butler material added to that of John Perkins, plus documented evidence of the type brought to life by Seymour Hersh, remind us again and again... this is about NAKED resource acquisition, the deadly exploitation of a foreign land and its people. It's all corrupt and it brings out corruption in the soldiers stuck in these quagmires. They forfeit all sense of humanity! There is NO honor in this no matter how many expensive, experienced PR people are brought in to dress the latest war of aggression up in positive-sounding titles, slogans, objectives, and sound-bites. MILLIONS have been killed... and are being killed. This death machine MUST be put to a stop!
And by the way, have you noticed that the more the U.S gets involved in these self-proclaimed wars of necessity, the worse life is getting for its own citizens? We are truly now at the point where the money spent on foreign wars is precisely what's gone missing as resources no longer available for necessary programs at home. What does that say about the underlying protocols of national security?
I agree with your spirited rebuttal, Sioux Rose.
The news story at the top of the column at the moment is:
"One in Three Killed by US Drones in Pakistan Is a Civilian, Report Claims
One in three 'militants' killed in US Predator Drone attacks in Pakistan's remote tribal areas is in fact a civilian, according to a report by an American think tank."
To repeat a wretchedly outworn phrase: read it and weep.
As much as one may wish or need to believe that the persons authorizing and executing these operations are ultimately rational, humane, and moral... it simply isn't so.
And as you correctly note, after a certain point intent is irrelevant. Whether the chain of command, military and civilian, that routinely, habitually, and persistently undertakes actions resulting in the wanton murder and maiming of innocents, and attendant mayhem and destruction, is populated with villainous, wicked, self-conscious predators or psychotic and sociopathic "Bad Seeds" incidentally accumulating heaps of collateral damage as they blunder about trying to take care of bidness is irrelevant-- insofar as the barbaric results speak for themselves.
Over the years, I've used the term "Merry Mixups" as scathingly as possible to mock reflexive damage control in which Official Spokespersons lamely rationalize away or justify horrific crimes and atrocities as accidents, flukes, or extreme exceptions.
This track record is no Merry Mixup.
The present US civilian/military command structure is as bad as it gets-- perhaps not in degree, but certainly in kind.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Sioux Rose
O.S: I'm glad to be a child of the 60's. And I remember the High School pep rallies with the muscular boys in those ridiculous costumes coming down the field as we were expected to cheer in the stands... all the while boys in my peer group began to be plucked by the MIC make-war machine, 58,000 left to die and so many more wounded for life in body, mind and soul.
So my anti-war stance is partially based on love for my fellow citizens. However, it does not stop there. For when we calculate our status today, the result of so many wars, who among us feels better off? And what type of crippled soul can make such an assertion given policies of disaster directed at so many others? In short, where is the evidence of the fruit of the poisons of warfare?
Does the concept of humanity stop at any regional border, a fiction borne of human imagination?
When I think of the mothers in Iraq bearing children with serious birth defects like something out of a grotesque sci-fi film, that this is increasingly the legacy of our military's footprint on other lands, I cry and ask in prayer, what can I do that could change any of this? How can the teachers, the beings who see the greater light of humanity's shared destiny reach those who have been so skillfully programmed by a variety of cultural agents to remain stuck in the borderline fictions of "us versus you."
Thank you for seeing and feeling what I do. I know that the only solution for this planet is the colletive wake-up call that will help us realize our joint investment in one another's humanity. There IS no other course.
Many have been the spiritual teachers who have instructed that the geologic events of nature, those that kill or wreck lives on a massive scale, are related to the energy put out by human beings. We forget that this planet, our very bodies, are not so dense as they may seem... that all that we are in embodiment is a molecular interchange with everything else. And in the final analysis, what appears as physical is more truly the dance of Light. We are energy... coalesced. Thus when our militant actions (along with group-think of hatred) demolish entire cultures, they tear asunder the covenants that hold matter together. The center cannot hold... it is HATRED of other (as especially enacted in the redundant obscenity of war) that pulls all apart. The recent earthquakes in my view are a manifestation of the sacred unifying force being wrenched apart. Yogananda, Edgar Cayce, Ruth Montgomery, and Gordon Michael Scallion were but a few who imparted this understanding. Don't take my word for it, earthbound skeptics in this forum... educate yourselves in the understanding shared by mystics.
Your continual defense of the indefensible grows sickening and It grows ever harder to seperate you from the people pulling the triggers on "wedding parties".
The houses were bombed INTENTIONALLY. They were not mistakes. This is a FACT.
Those dropping the bombs simply did not and do not care if innocents are killed. If they did care such actions would STOP. That these actions have been going on for 40 + plus years CLEARLY demonstrates it is POLICY and not "Mistake".
When I make a mistake i make every effort to ensure it never happens again. How many "mistakes" must we allow in YOUR perverted world view Thomas More?
I think you might want to read Dave's response to what you said to get a better understanding of what he meant.
One other question and I ask this because Sioux Rose and GwNorth brought this up. Are you really Thomas More? If so, I understand what you've been through but you need to visit Vietnam today as well as the rest of the Far East. Things aren't all that great there either what with people getting so divided on falling for yuppie capitalism versus trying to maintain the good somewhat socialist traditions that helped preserve their countries and cultures. What's worse is that today's MIC cannot be steered away from disaster. You got to believe me on this one. I used to kind of think like Thomas More but after visiting these nations in the Far East and taking into account solid progressive ideas on this site, I feel like being a different man and I'm not kidding. Please, go visit those countries if you can and you'll be upset and angry at the military bases getting in the way of people's lives as well as major rifts among young people between yuppie capitalism and socialism.
I read Hersh's 'My Lai' and the most horrific thing about it is that when interviewed(and Hersh interviewed all of Calley's company), they admitted that the reason the massacre took place was because it had happened so many times before, and thought it commonplace. The LA Times wrote an article back in 2007 that over 300 'My Lai's took place, and I'm guessing a lot more.
Since this was intentional slaughtering of innocents, it is another 'My Lai', but only of a smaller magnitude. Calley and his men, like the Japanese at Nanking, threw babies onto bayonets and slaughtered the women and old men of that hamlet mainly by marching them into ditches and executing, also reminiscent of Hitler's goons.
There was so much press about how the military was going to go to great ends to protect civilians. That is likely why the US military is not going to encourage 'heroes' in this instance. It makes me sick that our military is so full of cowards that no one stepped forward in this case. With a military like ours, we'd be better off if they all vanished and we started over.
I don't know what we can do about this heinous crime committed by our military. I'm giving this story to a columnist in my paper and ask that he follow up with the local military bases.
Now I finally get it. This is not an illegal occupation of a sovereign country, it's the good guys versus the bad guys!
Perhaps we should enlist Superman and the Justice League of America to sort it all out.
when the whole thing is a murderous farce that should be stopped immediately, why do you need heroes?
you need to stop...it all needs to stop...
The same could have been said for a decade in Vietnam. But heroes are needed because when these kinds of mass murder crimes are committed as a routine part of a war, they happen because they are hidden from the public. When people like Ridenhour and Hersh exposed My Lai, it led other soldiers to say, "Yeah, I saw that kind of thing happen too." The dam broke. That's why the LA Times was able to say there were 300 My Lais. It's why John Kerry, when he was still worthy of admiration, was able to say of the soldiers in Vietnam, "we are all war criminals."
The same is true today. Someone's got to have the guts to come forward and blow the whistle on the ongoing crimes in Afghanistan being committed under Gen. McChrystal's and President Obama's direction. And then, again, the dam can break.
That is why we need heroes, both in the military and in the media. Not the fake heroes who get applauded just because they wear a camo uniform in the airport, or the journalists who look so brave doing standups in their flak jackets in the company of lots of GI protectors, but heroes willing to stand up to their commanding officers, and journalists who are willing to go out and challenge the lies--and who are willing to quit their jobs and take their stories elsewhere if they aren't allowed to tell them.
Dave Lindorff
Visit Dave Lindorff's website at www.thiscantbehappening.net
I appreciate your response, Dave...
assuming such heroes act in whatever heroic capacity...don't we end up right back where we already are? don't we already know this is a travesty?
we end up back in Congress, do we not? If Congress, won't act, how will heroes make them do so? shame?
Dubet,
You may know it's a travesty but many if not most Americans are unaware.
It takes the heroes that Lindorf writes about to bring that awarenes to the American masses.
By themselves these heroes won't end the war, but they make an important contribution.
If the story of the massacre of these afghan boys becomes common knowledge we are not "right back where we already are."
Congress will respond if public opinion swings massively against the Afghan War.
"Congress will respond if public opinion swings massively against the Afghan War."
that hasn't been my observation, but I will grant you that potential...
of course, they may respond with drones...
Sioux Rose
DAVE: I agree, but would like to add that the media was not as conservative in the l970's as it is today. Rock music constantly blasted anti-war themes, there was a very VISIBLE anti-war movement seen on college campuses, and books were written that carried anti-war themes. Nor were protesters placed in marginal pens.
Today 90% of persons interviewed in media politically pimp for the make-war state. Musical groups with anti-war messages are often not aired by mainstream radio stations, and professors on college campuses are probably afraid to let their anti-war (anti-establishment) voices ring out loudly.
In short, the climate of the "Homeland Security State," added to precedents in such atrocities as: 1. holding citizens without due process 2. pre-empting political activism by arresting would-be demonstrators 3. spying on citizens' email and telephone calls... added to a "Unitary Executive" that disables the intended checks and balances to be maintained among 3 co-equal governing branches, suggests an atmosphere hardly as conducive to "whistle blowers" as had previously been the case.
The Inverted Totalitarianism spoken of author Sheldon Wollin (I don't have his book in my possession so I may have not spelled his name correctly) paints the portrait of our times in a way that makes truth not only inconvenient, but dangerous. It can't be any better in the "military culture." I am not condoning the cowardice of silence, of turning away, or "we were only following orders." I am instead relating that the tones of our times are far more sinister.
How many of all the people who are passing from this world at all times aren't being murdered ... in one way or another?
Yes, one can kill and get away with it ... until one dies.
The Wheel that turns in the Here is the Wheel that is turning in the After.
The three branches of our government as defined by the constitution are to be held accountable by "we the people".
Rich , poor , educated or not, an ill informed public can not keep those in power from moving towards abuse and dictatorship.
When you have a free press which is owned by the vary corporations which have vested interests in controlling Washington and American policy, or are invested in business that benefits from empire and military conquests and contracts,
there are no checks and balances , the Republic is in danger of a totalitarian take over and a nation stazi spy network infiltrates all areas of freedom of speech
Looks like a case of Atrocity Denial.
On Killing by LtCol Dave Grossman, 2009, Excerpts
The sheer horror of atrocity serves not only to terrify those who must face it, but also to generate disbelief in distant observers. Whether it is ritual cult killings in our society or mass murders by established governments in the world at large, the common response is often one of total disbelief. And the nearer it is to home, the harder we want to disbelieve it. The sheer awfulness of atrocity makes us wish it away.
Those who were deceived are mainly good, decent, highly educated men and women. It is their very goodness and decency that causes them to be so completely incapable of believing that someone or something they approve of could be so completely evil. Denial of mass atrocity is tied to our innate resistance to killing. Just as one hesitates to kill in the face of extreme pressure and despite the threat of violence, one has difficulty imagining – and believing – the existence of atrocity despite the existence of facts. When you institute and execute a policy of atrocity, you and your society must live with what you have done.
All of us would like to believe that we would not participate in atrocities, that we would deny our friends and leaders and even turn our weapons on them if need be. But there are profound processes involved that prevent such confrontations of peers and leaders in atrocity circumstance. The first involves group absolution and peer pressure.
http://theformofmoney.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2010/3/4/4466525.html
-"Sadly, no principled soldier with a conscience like pilot Hugh Thompson tried to save these children"
Remember the whistle-blower who was just put in jail recently for telling the justice dept about massive bank illegality, Birkenfeld?
Maybe if you want heroes, then you have to back them up with a justice system when they stick their neck out.
What you have now, under Obama's Democrats, is a system where war criminals like Bush, Cheney and Yoo walk, while your "heroes" go directly to jail.
Exactly. In the post-modern version of "the rule of law", somehow the REAL "worst of the worst" escape justice because of a series of unfortunate Merry Mixups at the Department of Justice.
Don't leave Erik Prince and Blackwater off the list!
However, rest assured that the DOJ is building an ironclad case against Tim DeChristopher for righteously buggering up an obscene land auction in an act of civil disobedience.
Our government is populated with scurrilous bullies, starting with our tendentious neo-monarch; thus, the wealthy and powerful criminals go free while a young conscientious citizen without power or influence is Prosecuted to the Fullest Extent of the Law.
PS: Hope the old melon's feeling better, Dave! ;)
· Yr Obd't Servant
Snippet:
" ... confiding that if Ridenhour didn't succeed in getting prosecutions going he had a hit list of all the officers involved and planned to execute them himself!"
THAT is the kind of thing that worries "brass".
I have several friends who are nice liberal people and think Obama is doing a good job cleaning up the Bush/Cheney mess.
They seem willfully ignorant to me. They like Obama's genteel persona and that's where their thinking ends.
I emailed this article to them in the hopes that the sheer horror of it will force them to take their thinking beyond the President's smooth intellectual exterior.
"Where Are This War’s Heroes, Military and Journalistic?"
They're online
>>And while a few news outlets in the US like the New York Times did mention that there were some claims that the dead were children, not bomb-makers, none, including CNN, which had bought and run the Pentagon's lies unquestioningly, bothered to print the news update when, on Feb. 24, the US military admitted that in fact the dead were innocent students. Nor has any US corporate news organization mentioned that the dead had been handcuffed when they were shot.
We had on these very boards, that same old crowd that will support US Militarism no matter what, suggest that any suggestion the victims of that massacre were handcuffed or innocent were fabrications because US soldiers would never do such a thing.
What happened to ABNsmith?
These people are not white, Christian Americans so in the name of Jesus Christ they deserve to die and burn in Hell, along with all of the aborted babies. Just read the Sermon on the Mount and be an informed Christian like 99.9% of the politicians in Washington, DC. Gee, our leaders are doing God's work and God's will and getting rich as an extra benefit, you know, just like it says in the Bible, "He who has the gold, rules!" All anyone has to do is spend a few minutes each day for a month to read the four Gospels and understand that Jesus wants us to kill these good-for-nothing brown-skinned people. And Jesus wants us to support the Jewish nation of Israel, you know the same Jews that nailed him to a dead tree and left him to die a couple of thousand years ago. Gee, the readers of CD are so ignorant! Understanding Jesus Christ will justify every war, every person without health insurance and every illegal alien in this great nation of ours, you know the most free people in the world with the greatest liberty and justice money can buy!
Who needs a hero in this day and age?
Sioux Rose
DIZI: Although your post is meant to be ironic, it was NOT the Jews that nailed Jesus to the cross. The Roman court/leaders made that determination. I am so tired of the "Mel Gibson" version. It may be true that certain infuential Jewish leaders were in favor of the decision to get this "hippie" leader and radical out of the picture so that the old teachings could continue to hold minds hostage...however, the power of the time was in the hands of the Roman leaders who made the decision.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
The lack of American military, military contractor, political and corporate people coming forth to offer up hard evidence of Bush/Cheney and Obama era war crimes reflects the degeneration of the general, journalistic and corporate culture of America since the era of Daniel Ellsberg, and it also reflects the stark FEAR of the now completely run amok military-industrial complex and CIA and privatized mercenary & spookdom operatives. There is no oversight or accountability by Congress on ANYTHING that matters anymore.
Sioux Rose
METAL: I agree, and would only add that the use of video war "games" to desensitize young soldiers to persons of other cultures and religious beliefs plays into the nonchalance with which some elect to kill "other." In particular, the Blackwater style mercenaries probably have in their ranks plenty of anti-social, racist, natural born killers. Setting them loose in a nation without visible command centers, as if they were extended bona fide licenses to kill is a recipe for disaster. With the U.S. primary "product" now war, the license to kill is part of the unstated job description. More evidence of new strains of "Disaster capitalism," favored brand of the USA.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
And all this stuff will inevitably come home to roost with no mass perceived alternative to fascism lite or hard-core fascism in a nation where most people above a certain age expect to have their pre-packaged imagination provided for them by corporate America.
Many former military and cia people have questioned the horrid events.
www.patriotsquestion911.com
Some journalists also, Pilger, Pallast, etc.
Problem is that corporate media sweeps them under the rug or assassinates their character. Look what they did to Scott Ritter.
Scott Ritter...yes, the treatment of Mr. Ritter was one of the fundamental teaching experiences of the modern era, for me...
watching the way his direct observations and sound recommendations were either ignored, or altered beyond recognition, even over his well-documented protests, was invaluable in understanding how crime is carried out on a global level...
The journalistic heroes have been intimidated into silence.
NiNeEleVen truth ends all wars......