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Howard Zinn: The People’s Historian
Howard Zinn, legendary historian, author and activist, died last week at the age of 87. His most famous book is “A People’s History of the United States.” Zinn told me last May, “The idea of ‘A People’s History’ is to go beyond what people have learned in school ... history through the eyes of the presidents and the generals in the battles fought in the Civil War, [to] the voices of ordinary people, of rebels, of dissidents, of women, of black people, of Asian-Americans, of immigrants, of socialists and anarchists and troublemakers of all kinds.”
It is fitting to write of Zinn’s life at the start of Black History Month. Although he was white, he wrote eloquently of the civil rights struggle and was a part of that movement as well. Fifty years ago, on Feb. 1, 1960, four black students entered the F.W. Woolworth store in Greensboro, N.C., and sat down at the “whites only” lunch counter. They were refused service, and returned day after day. Each day, more and more people came with them. The lunch-counter desegregation movement spread to other Southern cities. By July, the Greensboro Woolworth lunch counter was desegregated. This week, the International Civil Rights Center and Museum opened at the site of that original lunch-counter protest.
At the time of the sit-ins, Zinn was a professor at Spelman College, a historically black women’s college in Atlanta. He told me why, after seven years there, he was fired: “The students at Spelman College rose up out of that very tranquil and controlled atmosphere at the college during the sit-ins and went into town, got arrested, they came back fired up and determined to change the conditions of their lives on campus. ... I supported them in their rebellion, and I was too much for the administration of the college.” Zinn wrote in the afterword of “A People’s History”: “It was not until I joined the faculty of Spelman College ... that I began to read the African-American historians who never appeared in my reading lists in graduate school. Nowhere in my history education had I learned about the massacres of black people that took place again and again, amid the silence of a national government pledged, by the Constitution, to protect equal rights for all.”
One of his students at Spelman was Pulitzer Prize-winning author Alice Walker. Soon after she learned of Zinn’s death, Walker explained: “He was thrown out because he loved us, and he showed that love by just being with us. He loved his students. He didn’t see why we should be second-class citizens.” Just a few years ago, Zinn was invited back to Spelman to give the commencement address and receive an honorary degree.
World-renowned linguist and dissident Noam Chomsky, a longtime friend of Zinn’s, reflected on Zinn’s “reverence for and his detailed study of what he called ‘the countless small actions of unknown people’ that lead to those great moments that enter the historical record.” Zinn co-wrote, with Anthony Arnove, “Voices of a People’s History of the United States,” with speeches, letters and other original source material from those “unknown people” who have shaped this country. It was made into a star-studded documentary, which premiered on the History Channel just weeks before Zinn died. Matt Damon, its executive producer, gave “A People’s History” enormous popular exposure in the hit movie “Good Will Hunting” when his character Will recommended the book to his psychiatrist. Damon was Zinn’s neighbor in Newton, Mass., and knew him since he was 10 years old.
Last May, when I interviewed Zinn, he reflected on Barack Obama’s first months in office: “I wish President Obama would listen carefully to Martin Luther King. I’m sure he pays verbal homage, as everyone does, to Martin Luther King, but he ought to think before he sends missiles over Pakistan, before he agrees to this bloated military budget, before he sends troops to Afghanistan, before he opposes the single-payer system.
“He ought to ask: ‘What would Martin Luther King do? And what would Martin Luther King say?’ And if he only listened to King, he would be a very different president than he’s turning out to be so far. I think we ought to hold Obama to his promise to be different and bold and to make change. So far, he hasn’t come through on that promise.”
Denis Moynihan contributed research to this column.
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Show All"Damon was Zinn’s neighbor in Newton, Mass., and knew him since he was 10 years old."
I think they were neighbors in Cambridge, Mass.--and Zinn later moved to Newton.
Been re-reading People's History and it is still thrilling -- and depressing -- at the same time. To see America's "cherished history" in a whole new light. To feel the pain of the exploited and the massacred.
Zinn WAS a great historian -- too much ignored by an Academia too shallow and invested in the status quo to give Zinn his due.
But he was a greater human.
Gary
"There is not a country in world history in which racism has been more important, for so long a time, as the United States."
-- Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States (1980)
Gary, your posted quote is an excellent example of the obscure and subjective nature of Zinn's work. Perhaps you can explain exactly what it means?
sorry, duplicate
Perhaps you can elaborate on "obscure and subjective". Examples? Have you even bothered to crack open a book?
My question seems clear to me, but here is what I meant by the words I used. For you edification, from Merriam: Obscure; not clearly seen or easily distinguished. Also, Subjective; peculiar to a particular individual : personal (2) : modified or affected by personal views, experience, or background.
When I ask for an explanation of Zinn's quote and you responded with a question, does that mean you, also, do not know what this quote means?
What is the basis for his claim that "There is not a country in world history in which racism has been more important..."? Perhaps the same American arrogance he deplores? Why not South Africa? or the former colonial states of Africa, South America? And what does he mean by "more important". Hasn't race been important throughout recorded human history in most nations?
Is that more clear?
I don't understand the book reference. It is obvious that I am literate, so the answer seems obvious. Using your same standard I suppose I could ask you the same, no?
Well, to take one example you give--that of South Africa. That country has done a turnaround in a very short period of time. Compare it to the United States, where we are still racist to the core after 150 years since the "end of slavery".
Subjective? Why?
Well, "country" refers to an organized nation. "Racism" is an institutional set of legal, social, and economic structures that assure that one group of people will benefit at the expense of another, using skin color as the means of establishing in which group a person will live his life. Since slavery, with skin being the determining factor in whether one was a slave or not, was the means by which this country was built, and the foundation of the early prosperity of the republic, and since the system was extended after the Civil War by the institution of Jim Crow, that means that through most of the last five hundred years, the colonies-turned-United States have been operating with slavery as the basis of the economy, or Jim Crow as an important part of it. So it seems to me that the Zinn quote is very clear.
So, how is it "MORE IMPORTANT" than other like nations?
Maybe because we are a superpower and the greatest empire in history? Because we are such hypocrites about ourselves? Because we pretend even or especially to ourselves that race does not REALLY matter anymore -- look, look, we have a "black" President?
Zinn was soundly disliked by some historians because he choose to herald the "little people" rather than the Great Men standard of conventional histories, and dared question even the more famed historians like Samuel Eliot Morison. Stepping on a lot of toes. And people hate to be shown as frauds and liars and fools.
>>At a time when few politicians dared even call themselves liberal, "A People's History" told an openly left-wing story. Zinn charged Christopher Columbus and other explorers with genocide, picked apart presidents from Andrew Jackson to Franklin D. Roosevelt and celebrated workers, feminists and war resisters.
Even liberal historians were uneasy with Zinn. Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. once said:
"I know he regards me as a dangerous reactionary. And I don't take him very seriously. He's a polemicist, not a historian."
In a 1998 interview with The Associated Press, Zinn acknowledged he was not trying to write an objective history, or a complete one. He called his book a response to traditional works, the first chapter — not the last — of a new kind of history.
"There's no such thing as a whole story; every story is incomplete," Zinn said. "My idea was the orthodox viewpoint has already been done a thousand times."<<
'People's History' author Howard Zinn dies at 87 by Hillel Italie, Associated Press:
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14280849?nclick_check=1
Tell me, have you actually READ People's History? Or do you get all your opinions second-hand?
Gary
"That's been the story of this country. Where progress has been made, wherever any kind of injustice has been overturned, it's been because people acted as citizens, and not as politicians. They didn't just moan. They worked, they acted, they organized, they rioted if necessary."
-- Howard Zinn, speech, reprinted at http://tinyurl.com/bezasy
Gary, so far, in your entire rebuttal I notice you did not defend your first quote; the one typically subjective and obscure.
As for this response, you rebut with a first paragraph YOU don't even believe! You continue to confuse.
The only confusion I see is in YOUR response -- what ARE you talking about my refuting in the first paragraph? About America being a superpower? Or are you one of those dimbulbs that cannot see America is an empire? Or is it that we having a black president doesn't mean that race is not a core issue yet in America?
As for: "There is not a country in world history in which racism has been more important, for so long a time, as the United States." That's actually been pretty well handled by lord_buckley in his response which you side-stepped in your response.
But here is another try. In no other country since its inception to today has race mattered as much to its culture, politics and policies as it has in the United States. Scratch the surface of nearly everything in America and you'll find a racial component, from how soap is marketed to our two (and 3/4ths) wars. This after 350 years of the color barrier. 350 years of enslavement (real or de facto), disenfrancement, exploitation, and hatred.
That's a subjective POV of course -- just like ALL histories are subjective. But I'll still stand behind that. Can you disprove it anymore than I can "prove" it?
And I answered that second response of yours already.
Now I await your next inane response...
Gary
" Black slaves were the answer. And it was natural to consider imported blacks as slaves, even if the institution of slavery would not be regularized and legalized for several decades. Because, by 1619, a million blacks had already been brought from Africa to South America and the Caribbean, to the Portuguese and Spanish colonies, to work as slaves. Fifty years before Columbus, the Portuguese took ten African blacks to Lisbon—this was the start of a regular trade in slaves. African blacks had been stamped as slave labor for a hundred years. So it would have been strange if those twenty blacks, forcibly transported to Jamestown, and sold as objects to settlers anxious for a steadfast source of labor, were considered as anything but slaves."
-- Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States (1980)
When an old man dies, its like a library burning or something like that, true as ever with Howard Zinn. Im glad i discovered writers like Zinn as a young adult, that change your perspective. It showed me the ugly side of western countries, that my instincts and what i learned had already picked up on, this tip of the iceberg that makes you want to learn more.
If humanity is to survive, it will be with the help of people like Howard because we are in a sad ass shape already.
Im not a pacifist, i dont think weapon production and advances should ever stop, because we dont know what aggressive species lies out there in space and people like the Nazis cannot be dealt with with words, but we must definitely work toward to stop killing each other with them.
Comrade Zinn was no historian, and represented only a sliver of the people.
thanks for the well thought out and intelligent comment Mr. Horowitz, now bugger off back to your buddies at NPR, they are obviously eager to listen to your irrational hate-filled nonsense.
I notice neither socialist, nor buck refute the substance of my observations. Legitimate academic historians refute Zinn, and most Americans reject his views and representations.
substance? That's a good one.
Legitimate? Like who? Hey, John Yoo is teaching Law at UC Berkeley.
Do you even know where Zinn worked? His title? Why did his magnum opus sell well over a million copies? You aint dealin with naive NPR listeners here.
I will try to clarify my remarks (though they seem clear to me); do Zinn's views represent more than a sliver of the American public? Has Zinn been roundly refuted by historians for a lack of academic rigor?
Let me answer; No, Yes.
thank you for confirming that you have little or no knowledge of the subject.
As opposed to your posts, which enlighten the world as to the nature of Zinn's work and ideology? Are you really so weak minded that you cannot simply and rationally refute with some relavance the observations I've made; the questions I've asked?
You post opinion as if it were written large and in gold, then take umbrage when someone points out your giant ego. This is not intelligent debate it is well written diatribe.
Links to some smattering of proof of your accusations might make your criticism of Zinn more effective you know. One doubts that a million purchases of his "Peoples History" can be so dismissed as you attempt as simply ordered by like minded teachers. In fact, the aroma of paranoia creeps in when one considers such illogical assumption.
Uhhh--what questions have you asked? Enlighten me, oh wise one.
The "substance" of your "observations" is not worth borrowing an electron microscope to detect for the purposes of refuting.
Judging from the smell, those who accidently stepped in your "substance" are best served by scraping it off the sole of their shoe at the next curb.
And not giving it a second thought.
· Yr Obd't Servant
You're not very obedient, and you are certainly not MY servant. But your intelligent response is a breath of fresh air for this site. (PS Still unrefuted.)
For >>Legitimate academic historians<< read "status quo rejectionists." Of course Zinn is disliked by much of academia, he showed people under the rocks the establishment historians had piled over the graves of the underclass, the disenfranchised, and the down-trodden. The dissenter and the radical. Just the people conventional histories ignore and historians forbear recounting popular histories of.
And People's History IS popular, selling more copies almost every year since first published. Can you say "professional envy?" And anger at showing that standard histories lie through their teeth.
Bah. why bother...
Gary
"My argument cannot be against selection, simplification, emphasis, which are inevitable for both cartographers and historians. But the map-maker's distortion is a technical necessity for a common purpose shared by all people who need maps. The historian's distortion is more than technical, it is ideological; it is released into a world of contending interests, where any chosen emphasis supports (whether the historian means to or not) some kind of interest, whether economic or political or racial or national or sexual."
-- Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States (1980)
Would you have a bias concerning "legitimate academic historians"?
Most americans haven't heard of Howard Zinn, so how could they reject his views and representations. This reminds me of people that said "Farenheight 911" was a "pack of lies." When asked if they saw it, every single one said no.
On another post you mention his sales due to professors and teachers. Do they not count?
Howard represented the spirit of universal rights, justice and love.
His "People's History" is the most honest and thought provoking history book ever.
He inspired, informed and represented me.
Jeevee
Howard Zinn represented the SILVER of the people.
The silver people are slightly representative.
DPJR:
You appear to think that you are a better Historian. What History do you teach?
Why are you really upset that Howard Zinn has a little limelight now that he is dead?
Can you help us Peaceniks Quakers help stop the wars? How?
Howard Zinn represented himself. As for his ability as a historian, it was certainly better than most 'academics' who write our history books, those used in schools.
You might want to give Zinn a break. Could there be just a little--oh I don't know--ENVY involved here?
Zinn was an American hero of the highest order. Many articles have been written since he died, however I have not yet seen any that highlight some of Zinn's most thought-provoking claims about US political history.
Throughout "the Peoples History..." Zinn highlights the hypocrisy and sham of our two party system. He claims that no matter which of the two parties that have been in power since Eisenhower, US policy generally shifts ever rigthward.
He claims that voting for corporate sponsored candidates is not what brings about change, it is grass-roots civil disobedience and constant struggle.
Like MLK Jr., Zinn is being "de-fanged". Zinn was blistering and scathing in his criticism, kind and warm-hearted in his prescriptions.
His memory will live on...
The ability to allow one to let oneself be oneself is what will make Howard Zinn a remarkable historian. To the numb one who asks why other historians and people rejected Zinn, the reason is simple. They are socially conformed and intolerant. I noticed that Huffington Post gave very little coverage to him but not surprising for a site filled with Obama droids.
dpjr: Please read "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James W. Loewen
There are plenty of truly academic historians who have related the anti-imperialist perspective of American history. They have related this history objectively and rationally. The same is not so for Zinn. His dissertations are harshly jaded by his misguided and strangely unapologetic political allegiances and deeply flawed by lack of academic rigor. His apparent popularity (million books published) is largely due to its assignment by like minded professors and teachers.
So you don't like Zinn. Why not just be honest and say so. Your assertions, "deeply flawed by lack of academic rigor" and "largely due to its assignment by like minded professors" prove that your dislike has nothing to do with fact and is purely a personal dislike.
No problem. It wouldn't bother Howard Zinn and it doesn't bother me. I just think you should be truthful since you expect others to be.
Howard Zinn is attacked by the right wing for his denunciation of American exceptionalism; which is used by the imperialists to cover up the crimes of slavery, genocide of the native tribes and exploitation of the working class.
People are people, throughout the world, with the same strengths and weaknesses. American exceptionalism is bullshit, pure and simple.
Zinn's respinning of American history had one fatal flaw: it was based on the notion that Americans are NOT the chosen people of God.
In fact, Americans have been mercilessly enslaved/oppressed/pogrommed throughout history by inferior cultures, but have miraculously risen to the top of every society they emigrate to.
They even control the mass media of the entire English-speaking world because of their superior intelligence/access to capital.
Howard's anti-American tirades are just symptoms of his jealousy of not feeling 100% American himself.
Alright who left qatzelok's cage door open?
Hopefully tongue in cheek!
Amy,
Thank you for the wonderful article on Howard Zinn. I have been listening to your stories about him on Democracy Now! I am and will continue to be a supporter of Democracy Now! Keep up the good work on broadcasting the truth. -Dan in San Diego
Zinn's a great historian but I'll save civil disobedience as the last resort if all else fails.
you might soon see that ALREADY --- "all else has failed"...if anything "all else" -- which includes ALTERNATIVE movements, political ideas, different economic structures - HAVE BEEN SUPPRESSED in the entire history of the USA.
unionism, labor justice, just wages, TRUE equality among races and sexes and preferences, placing people ABOVE the almighty dollar, preventing the Corporate Personhoo, preventing wars and the "undue influence of the military/industrial/corporate/congressional complex" (D Eisenhower warning)..TRUE justice....HONEST elections, JUST elections...TRUE justive supreme court and other courts...
THESE and many more are what you might say "all else" -- THEY have BEEN RENDERED "failed" BY what the USA IS.
after all -- when you think about -- the USA - as the world's prime "mover" and dictator IS the home and center OF global INjustice.....
starting or becoming fuller, RIGHT at HOME where its existence as an entity is based ON the SUPPRESSION of what you said was "all else".
"democracy, liberty, justice?"
they have ALL ALREADY FAILED in the USA. the USA MADE it so. look around you.
I'm not sure what to say here but I think I had better look closely at this. I probably won't be ready for civil disobedience unless I have plenty of company to go with it.
Civil disobedience hell. Isn't it about time for armed rebellion?
That's overkill. I'm not ready.
Has something else succeeded?
What else remains untried?
I don't see that lower classes have the arms for armed revolution or the command over supply, and we likely lack other things. Trotsky claimed that the invention of the machine gun and the disuse of paving stones had stopped armed revolution.
He might have diagnosed our own times better had he said that ease of travel and the concentration and liquidity of resources allow few violent revolutions to lead to representative government.
But nonviolent action has led to change - not always and not without losses. But is that not more than the arguments for war and obedience?
Who has to show it. Isn't it pretty obvious?
What more would you have done?
Maybe if Pacifica could get the donation$ to breed or split Goodman into three or four people.