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The Drone Surge: Today, Tomorrow, and 2047
One moment there was the hum of a motor in the sky above. The next, on a recent morning in Afghanistan's Helmand province, a missile blasted a home, killing 13 people. Days later, the same increasingly familiar mechanical whine preceded a two-missile salvo that slammed into a compound in Degan village in the tribal North Waziristan district of Pakistan, killing three.
What were once unacknowledged, relatively infrequent targeted killings of suspected militants or terrorists in the Bush years have become commonplace under the Obama administration. And since a devastating December 30th suicide attack by a Jordanian double agent on a CIA forward operating base in Afghanistan, unmanned aerial drones have been hunting humans in the Af-Pak war zone at a record pace. In Pakistan, an "unprecedented number" of strikes -- which have killed armed guerrillas and civilians alike -- have led to more fear, anger, and outrage in the tribal areas, as the CIA, with help from the U.S. Air Force, wages the most public "secret" war of modern times.
In neighboring Afghanistan, unmanned aircraft, for years in short supply and tasked primarily with surveillance missions, have increasingly been used to assassinate suspected militants as part of an aerial surge that has significantly outpaced the highly publicized "surge" of ground forces now underway. And yet, unprecedented as it may be in size and scope, the present ramping up of the drone war is only the opening salvo in a planned 40-year Pentagon surge to create fleets of ultra-advanced, heavily-armed, increasingly autonomous, all-seeing, hypersonic unmanned aerial systems (UAS).
Today's Surge
Drones are the hot weapons of the moment and the upcoming Quadrennial Defense Review -- a soon-to-be-released four-year outline of Department of Defense strategies, capabilities, and priorities to fight current wars and counter future threats -- is already known to reflect this focus. As the Washington Post recently reported, "The pilotless drones used for surveillance and attack missions in Afghanistan and Pakistan are a priority, with the goals of speeding up the purchase of new Reaper drones and expanding Predator and Reaper drone flights through 2013."
The MQ-1 Predator -- first used in Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990s -- and its newer, larger, and more deadly cousin, the MQ-9 Reaper, are now firing missiles and dropping bombs at an unprecedented pace. In 2008, there were reportedly between 27 and 36 U.S. drone attacks as part of the CIA's covert war in Pakistan. In 2009, there were 45 to 53 such strikes. In the first 18 days of January 2010, there had already been 11 of them.
Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, the U.S. Air Force has instituted a much publicized decrease in piloted air strikes to cut down on civilian casualties as part of Afghan War commander General Stanley McChrystal's counterinsurgency strategy. At the same time, however, UAS attacks have increased to record levels.
The Air Force has created an interconnected global command-and-control system to carry out its robot war in Afghanistan (and as Noah Shachtman of Wired's Danger Room blog has reported, to assist the CIA in its drone strikes in Pakistan as well). Evidence of this can be found at high-tech U.S. bases around the world where drone pilots and other personnel control the planes themselves and the data streaming back from them. These sites include a converted medical warehouse at Al-Udeid Air Base, a billion-dollar facility in the Persian Gulf nation of Qatar where the Air Force secretly oversees its on-going drone wars; Kandahar and Jalalabad Air Fields in Afghanistan, where the drones are physically based; the global operations center at Nevada's Creech Air Base, where the Air Force's "pilots" fly drones by remote control from thousands of miles away; and -- perhaps most importantly -- at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, a 12-square-mile facility in Dayton, Ohio, named after the two local brothers who invented powered flight in 1903. This is where the bills for the current drone surge -- as well as limited numbers of strikes in Yemen and Somalia -- come due and are, quite literally, paid.
In the waning days of December 2009, in fact, the Pentagon cut two sizeable checks to ensure that unmanned operations involving the MQ-1 Predator and the MQ-9 Reaper will continue full-speed ahead in 2010. The 703rd Aeronautical Systems Squadron based at Wright-Patterson signed a $38 million contract with defense giant Raytheon for logistics support for the targeting systems of both drones. At the same time, the squadron inked a deal worth $266 million with mega-defense contractor General Atomics, which makes the Predator and Reaper drones, to provide management services, logistics support, repairs, software maintenance, and other functions for both drone programs. Both deals essentially ensure that, in the years ahead, the stunning increase in drone operations will continue.
These contracts, however, are only initial down payments on an enduring drone surge designed to carry U.S. unmanned aerial operations forward, ultimately for decades.
Drone Surge: The Longer View
Back in 2004, the Air Force could put a total of only five drone combat air patrols (CAPs) -- each consisting of four air vehicles -- in the skies over American war zones at any one time. By 2009, that number was 38, a 660% increase according to the Air Force. Similarly, between 2001 and 2008, hours of surveillance coverage for U.S. Central Command, encompassing both the Iraqi and Afghan war zones, as well as Pakistan and Yemen, showed a massive spike of 1,431%.
In the meantime, flight hours have gone through the roof. In 2004, for example, Reapers, just beginning to soar, flew 71 hours in total, according to Air Force documents; in 2006, that number had risen to 3,123 hours; and last year, 25,391 hours. This year, the Air Force projects that the combined flight hours of all its drones -- Predators, Reapers, and unarmed RQ-4 Global Hawks -- will exceed 250,000 hours, about the total number of hours flown by all Air Force drones from 1995-2007. In 2011, the 300,000 hour-a-year barrier is expected to be crossed for the first time, and after that the sky's the limit.
More flight time will, undoubtedly, mean more killing. According to Peter Bergen and Katherine Tiedemann of the Washington-based think tank the New America Foundation, in the Bush years, from 2006 into 2009, there were 41 drone strikes in Pakistan which killed 454 militants and civilians. Last year, under the Obama administration, there were 42 strikes that left 453 people dead. A recent report by the Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies, an Islamabad-based independent research organization that tracks security issues, claimed an even larger number, 667 people -- most of them civilians -- killed by U.S. drone strikes last year.
While assisting the CIA's drone operations in the Pakistani tribal borderlands, the Air Force has been increasing its own unmanned aerial hunter-killer missions. In 2007 and 2008, for example, Air Force Predators and Reapers fired missiles during 244 missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, while all the U.S. armed services have pursued unmanned aerial warfare, the Air Force has outpaced each of them.
From 2001, when armed drone operations began, until the spring of 2009, the Air Force fired 703 Hellfire missiles and dropped 132 GBU-12s (500-pound laser-guided bombs) in combat operations. The Army, by comparison, launched just two Hellfire missiles and two smaller GBU-44 Viper Strike munitions in the same time period. The disparity should only grow, since the Army's drones remain predominantly small surveillance aircraft, while in 2009 the Air Force shifted all outstanding orders for the medium-sized Predator to the even more formidable Reaper, which is not only twice as fast but has 600% more payload capacity, meaning more space for bombs and missiles.
In addition, the more heavily-armed Reapers, which can now loiter over an area for 10 to 14 hours without refueling, will be able to spot and track ever more targets via an increasingly sophisticated video monitoring system. According to Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula, Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance, the first three "Gorgon Stare pods" -- new wide-area sensors that provide surveillance capabilities over large swathes of territory -- will be installed on Reapers operating in Afghanistan this spring.
A technology not available for the older Predator, Gorgon Stare will allow 10 operators to view 10 video feeds from a single drone at the same time. Back at a distant base, a "pilot" will stare at a tiled screen with a composite picture of the streaming battlefield video, even as field commanders analyze a portion of the digital picture, panning, zooming, and tilting the image to meet their needs.
A more advanced set of "pods," scheduled to be deployed for the first time this fall, will allow 30 operators to view 30 video images simultaneously. In other words, via video feeds from a single Reaper drone, operators could theoretically track 30 different people heading in 30 directions from a single Afghan compound. The generation of sensors expected to come online in late 2011 promises 65 such feeds, according to Air Force documents, a more than 6,000% increase in effectiveness over the Predator's video system. The Air Force is, however, already overwhelmed just by drone video currently being sent back from the war zones and, in the years ahead, risks "drowning in data," according to Deptula.
The 40-Year Plan
When it comes to the drone surge, the years 2011-2013 are just the near horizon. While, like the Army, the Navy is working on its own future drone warfare capacity -- in the air as well as on and even under the water -- the Air Force is involved in striking levels of futuristic planning for robotic war. It envisions a future previously imagined only in sci-fi movies like the Terminator series.
As
a start, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency or DARPA, the
Pentagon's blue skies research outfit, is already looking into
radically improving on Gorgon Stare with an "Autonomous Real-time
Ground Ubiquitous Surveillance-Infrared (ARGUS-IR)
System." In the obtuse language of military research and development,
it will, according to DARPA, provide a "real-time, high-resolution,
wide area video persistent surveillance capability that allows joint
forces to keep critical areas of interest under constant surveillance
with a high degree of target location accuracy" via as many as "130
‘Predator-like' steerable video streams to enable real-time tracking
and monitoring and enhanced situational awareness during evening
hours."
In translation, that means the Air Force will quite literally be flooded with video information from future battlefields; and every "advance" of this sort means bulking up the global network of facilities, systems, and personnel capable of receiving, monitoring, and interpreting the data streaming in from distant digital eyes. All of it, of course, is specifically geared toward "target location," that is, pin-pointing people on one side of the world so that Americans on the other side can watch, track, and in many cases, kill them.
In addition to enhanced sensors and systems like ARGUS-IR, the Air Force has a long-term vision for drone warfare that is barely beginning to be realized. Predators and Reapers have already been joined in Afghanistan by a newer, formerly secret drone, a "low observable unmanned aircraft system" first spotted in 2007 and dubbed the "Beast of Kandahar" before observers were sure what it actually was. It is now known to be a Lockheed Martin-manufactured unmanned aerial vehicle, the RQ-170 -- a drone which the Air Force blandly notes was designed to "directly support combatant commander needs for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance to locate targets." According to military sources, the sleek, stealthy surveillance craft has been designated to replace the antique Lockheed U-2 spy plane, which has been in use since the 1950s.
In the coming years, the RQ-170 is slated to be joined in the skies of America's "next wars" by a fleet of drones with ever newer, more sophisticated capabilities and destructive powers. Looking into the post-2011 future, Deptula sees the most essential need, according to an Aviation Week report, as "long-range [reconnaissance and] precision strike" -- that is, more eyes in far off skies and more lethality. He added, "We cannot move into a future without a platform that allows [us] to project power long distances and to meet advanced threats in a fashion that gives us an advantage that no other nation has."
This means bigger, badder, faster drones -- armed to the teeth -- with sensor systems to monitor wide swathes of territory and the ability to loiter overhead for days on end waiting for human targets to appear and, in due course, be vaporized by high-powered munitions. It's a future built upon advanced technologies designed to make targeted killings -- remote-controlled assassinations -- ever more effortless.
Over the horizon and deep into what was, until recently, only a silver-screen fantasy, the Air Force envisions a wide array of unmanned aircraft, from tiny insect-like robots to enormous "tanker size" pilotless planes. Each will be slated to take over specific war-making functions (or so Air Force dreamers imagine). Those nano-sized drones, for instance, are set to specialize in indoor reconnaissance -- they're small enough to fly through windows or down ventilation shafts -- and carry out lethal attacks, undertake computer-disabling cyber-attacks, and swarm, as would a group of angry bees, of their own volition. Slightly larger micro-sized Small Tactical Unmanned Aircraft Systems (STUAS) are supposed to act as "transformers" -- altering their form to allow for flying, crawling and non-visual sensing capabilities. They might fill sentry, counter-drone, surveillance, and lethal attack roles.
Additionally, the Air Force envisions small and medium "fighter sized" drones with lethal combat capabilities that would put the current UAS air fleet to shame. Today's medium-sized Reapers are set to be replaced by next generation MQ-Ma drones that will be "networked, capable of partial autonomy, all-weather and modular with capabilities supporting electronic warfare (EW), CAS [close air support], strike and multi-INT [multiple intelligence] ISR [intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance] missions' platform."
The language may not be elegant, much less comprehensible, but if these future fighter aircraft actually come online they will not only send today's remaining Top Gun pilots to the showers, but may even sideline tomorrow's drone human operators, who, if all goes as planned, will have ever fewer duties. Unlike today's drones which must take off and land with human guidance, the MQ-Ma's will be automated and drone operators will simply be there to monitor the aircraft.
Next up will be the MQ-Mb, theoretically capable of taking over even more roles once assigned to traditional fighter-bombers and spy planes, including the suppression of enemy air defenses, bombing and strafing of ground targets, and surveillance missions. These will also be designed to fly more autonomously and be better linked-in to other drone "platforms" for cooperative missions involving many aircraft under the command of a single "pilot." Imagine, for instance, one operator overseeing a single command drone that holds sway over a small squadron of autonomous drones carrying out a coordinated air attack on clusters of people in some far off land, incinerating them in small groups across a village, town or city.
Finally, perhaps 30 to 40 years from now, the MQ-Mc drone would incorporate all of the advances of the MQ-M line, while being capable of everything from dog-fighting to missile defense. With such new technology will, of course, come new policies and new doctrines. In the years ahead, the Air Force intends to make drone-related policy decisions on everything from treaty obligations to automatic target engagement -- robotic killing without a human in the loop. The latter extremely controversial development is already envisioned as a possible post-2025 reality.
2047: What's Old is New Again
The year 2047 is the target date for the Air Force's Holy Grail, the capstone for its long-term plan to turn the skies over to war-fighting drones. In 2047, the Air Force intends to rule the skies with MQ-Mc drones and "special" super-fast, hypersonic drones for which neither viable technology nor any enemies with any comparable programs or capabilities yet exist. Despite this, the Air Force is intent on making these super-fast hunter-killer systems a reality by 2047. "Propulsion technology and materials that can withstand the extreme heat will likely take 20 years to develop. This technology will be the next generation air game-changer. Therefore the prioritization of the funding for the specific technology development should not wait until the emergence of a critical COCOM [combatant command] need," says the Air Force's 2009-2047 UAS "Flight Plan."
If anything close to the Air Force's dreams comes to fruition, the "game" will indeed be radically changed. By 2047, there's no telling how many drones will be circling over how many heads in how many places across the planet. There's no telling how many millions or billions of flight hours will have been flown, or how many people, in how many countries will have been killed by remote-controlled, bomb-dropping, missile-firing, judge-jury-and-executioner drone systems.
There's only one given. If the U.S. still exists in its present form, is still solvent, and still has a functioning Pentagon of the present sort, a new plan will already be well underway to create the war-making technologies of 2087. By then, in ever more places, people will be living with the sort of drone war that now worries only those in places like Degan village. Ever more people will know that unmanned aerial systems packed with missiles and bombs are loitering in their skies. By then, there undoubtedly won't even be that lawnmower-engine sound indicating that a missile may soon plow into your neighbor's home.
For the Air Force, such a prospect is the stuff of dreams, a bright future for unmanned, hypersonic lethality; for the rest of the planet, it's a potential nightmare from which there may be no waking.
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Show AllDrones are essentially instruments of assassination, which means assassination is back in vogue. How long until they are used on us by either a foreign or domestic power?
Drones are the ultimate cowards weapon.
All the thrill of the kill without having to actually be there.
They also allow a handful of people to kill millions.
Human sacrifice made so convenient.
What kind of progress is this?
so, we either try to unplug it all, everything, around the world, now, and stop the insanity before the window of opportunity closes, or we hope nature swings the heavy bat real soon?
when the only questions remaining are which bat is heavier, man's or nature's, and who will connect first, it doesn't look good either way...and the foreclosures go on...
no wonder my son's generation sees war in their near future...how can one not?
the party is becoming not fun anymore, and I can't seem to find the door...
If your son's generation reads this article they will realize that WAR IS THE FUTURE, period.
The US Air Force is looking to an all drone capability in 2047.
With the immanent arrival of Peak Oil (if it's not already here), along with damn near peak production of everything else, (including food), I would say that there is a better chance of the US Air Force flying kites in 2047 instead of advanced military aircraft...
LOL Galen, I was thinking the same thing! I suspect the world in 2047 will be in a very sad state of affairs. The only bright side for me is that I suspect I will no longer be part of it. I would be 90 then and no one I know of in my family has ever lived that long.
The boatloads of oil the ever expanding US military consumes combined with the devalued dollar (that results from the US having to borrow boatloads of money to pay for the ever expanding military)will drive the price of oil up even faster than previously thought. It won't be long before your taxes increase, all domestic programs get reduced or eliminated and the US military gets all of the oil. You can bet that the last drop of oil on earth will be consumed by the US military.
I would like to know how anyone knows if contractors are already warring with each other. Because this is obviously a whole other level of warfare that is going to be happening, if it isn't already.
And they will do it with drones as well. All bets are soooo off! No way to know who is who and what is what.
An excellent book on this topic is P.W. Singer's WIRED FOR WAR: The Robotics Revolution and Conflicts in the 21st Century (NY: Penguin, 2009).
You have to ask.....why?
What's the ultimate achievement?
It's certainly not peace. Peace at the barrel of a gun is no peace at all.
All this really shows is the level of complete narrow-mindedness of any military mind, of which many Americans love to lavish praise and pay hero worship to, right down to the level of actually being proud to have members of their family in the military.
Military=death, it's that simple. Either to the hapless soldier (mentally or physically) or to the victims that are killed as well as the 'collateral damage' of civilians.
You have to stop participating in all of that and that means removing complete support for the military.
Don't support little 'Johnnie' or 'Jane' just because they're in the military. Ostracise and berate them. Everytime you lend any tacit approval or support just means they have some measure of emotional support from you. Just stop it.
If they choose to leave the military then gladly welcome them back into the human race and try to undo the mental programming and give support for their possible ongoing anguish.
The USA is so bound up in military bullshit, facile 'traditions' and myths that it's become the fascist country it always was but at a much higher and more open level.
Just stop all support.
Break the military mindset.
Educate your children to the real causes of human misery and what they can do right now to create a better world in a paradigm shift.
Throw out tradition, religion, fairy tales, urban myths, and any ridiculous ideas of superiority. Break the illusions. We're all people and we all live here.
If you mindlessly continue as you are then you might as well just start throwing your babies into shredder machines right now because that's the future they'll have or be performing on the ever widening 'enemies', and that includes innocent civilians.
And isn't it telling how technology has been perverted for harm instead of good? - Technology isn't evil. It's the mindset of those using it.
Consider this.......all this lordly talk about USA superiority has been over much lesser opponents, primarily those without any air force of their own for one.
There would be completely different outcomes if the USA was faced off against Soviet weaponry either directly or by proxy wars.
And just like in Afghanistan of recent past history, all it takes is for the supposedly helpless targets to acquire balancing technology....such as an equivalent one-man Stinger missile system against drones and the like.
Do you want to continue being the pawns or just walk away from the game? - It's your choice. The biggest weapon you have is non-involvement and a complete unwillingness to play. - So use it.
I wonder how much it cost for the insurgents to "train" the Khost bomber.... and how much of his training and sustenance were actually provided by the CIA and Jordanian intelligence? How many innocent civilian targets did he falsely provide before he carried out his final mission? How many more insurgents did those drone attacks he directed create? The CIA has so many double and triple agents, they themselves can't possibly know who is on their side. On one level, it's pure stupidity. But at a higher level, it's working perfectly to enhance corporate profits, promote generals and bring the pork home to Dayton. Our policies are wildly successful with respect to their actual, unstated goals.
As Olbermann once said, the purpose of the war in Iraq was...to have a war in Iraq!
Sioux Rose
OLD BEFORE: I applaud and support your post. Thank you for sharing it. Your views and values are quite similar to my own.
This technology eviscerates and nullifies the US constitution. The rule of law. Human rights. Freedom.
In a universal context.
The owners/developers of this technology are from my nation but not of it. They know no nation, know no patriotism and know no morality.
Their targets will be those who question their authority to control, to exploit, to murder at will.
Their target will be us
First they came for the "terrorists" and I did nothing becaise I was not a terorist.............
Headline: 'Mexican Intel Drone Fires Missiles In Dallas Suburbs; 3 Alleged Drug Kingpin Associates Possibly Killed; 14 Dallas Civilians Killed, 40 Injured.'
'Mexican Drone Missiles Kill 27 At San Diego Wedding, Claim Major Drug Kingpin Associate Possibly Injured'
"After Phoenix Drone Attack, Mexican Intel Renders 5 American 'evil-doer drug dealers' To Chile For Interrogation, Indefinite Detention Until The New 'War On Drugs' is Won"
Do. Unto. Others.
All this and more, Frank......Well done.
Ordering the use and using drones is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions remand that all due diligence be taken to prevent civlian casualities.
Drones have a consistent 80% civilian kill rate so it is absolutely a War Crime to employ drones in this manner.
Obomber is a war criminal and all involved in drones, in this instance, are also war criminals.
There is a new drone command at Cannon AFB New Mexico.
The publicised one in Las Vega NV
CIA in Virginia.
THe Baluchistan Blackwater maintained base in Pakistan (Seymore Hirsch ? love Seymore( SEE MORE for an Investigative Reporter
Where do you get the 80% civilian kill rate? I want more data on the subject. Do you have a source or multiple sources? Also previous means of war that were not prosecuted killed far more than 80% civilians. Why would drones be prosecuted this time around? Have any governments applied the UN for prosecution of the US for drones? Seems that Pakistan is complaining on the one hand and supplying us with coordinates on the other. I don't see them making a formal request to the UN.
This is an interesting tack and worth exploring, but reliable data is needed.
For-profit war. For-profit insanity.
Have you watched the TV cartoons that little kids watch these days? Or played the killer computer games the slightly older kids are playing?
It's a continuum of propaganda posing as entertainment, playing into the us/them mentality in training for the future world of drones and Drones that is now started.
And of course every police and sheriff's department will just have to have that neat technology, too. Primarily, to start with, for surveillance and chasing the bad guys. There will be no place to hide, while the need for privacy is innate to conscious humans.
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The US military are putting a lot of emphasis on drone technology.
Have today's drones ever been used against an enemy with SAMs?
I thought not. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel.
Not necessarily. I think a lot would depend on the drone and the altitude. There isn't a reason in the world that a drone can't carry ECMs and they can be quite maneuverable as they don't have any on-board crew.
Undoubtedly there will be a race for drone vs. drone counter measure, but the fact is usually the side that starts racing first, and the airforce is racing on this, does best in the long run.
You might imagine that there were drones the purpose of which was to draw SAM fire and then fire ARMs at the SAMS. Wild Weasel drones. Works fine with aircraft so why not with unmanned aircraft? Remember that Israel destroyed 17 of 19 Syrian SAM batteries in an hour in 1982, then went on to shoot down 79 Syrian planes that were sent to protect the final two sites. All without a single loss and those were manned by Soviets, not Syrians, so top of the line equipment and personel.
SAMs can become a tremendous liability and asset TO protect instead of a protection asset at the drop of a hat. I would not doubt that this is being thought about in the Pentagon right now.
Interesting. On the other hand, it could be said it was SAMs that drove the Soviets out of Afghanistan.
SAMs have come a long way as well, especially Block 2 MPADS.
The Terminators will corrode the vampires rotting heart out.
which are American flying death squads, now all the vogue.
Fallible human beings should not use such high tech clout.
as absolute power, desire and hatred will always go rogue.
These are the chosen instruments of insect extermination,
as Groundlings appear to be from high up determination.
Do fear to use the deadly poisons that kill indiscriminate,
Since the resistance for hot killers will recriminate.
This ultimate ending of relationship entanglements,
abolishes the need for messy divorce settlements
Such self-contempt for any human beings redemption,
brings on more quickly our species extinction.
And later, if the wars are brutally lost or won
Next apon ourselves theses weapons will turn on.
The problems were not in the poor targets obliterated
The disease was in our soul where cancer proliferated.
What is it with our species that so loves and remains addicted to (perpetual) war and so hates peace? In the race to create new, improved technologies wielding death over life in every nook and crannie whether in the air, on land, or underwater? Will we reach a threshold wherein all life becomes expendable in the pursuit of what? Some infantile wet dream? What in hell have we collectively become? Don't bother to blame God or Satan or any other supernatural (should be renamed as subnatural?) entity as they are nothing but excuses to shift the blame away from our collective sorry asses as we dare not look at ourselves in a mirror.
The drone surge is the biggest cash cow since wonderbread! Nobody really bet hard on nukes since they're just too terminal. But drones? Generations upon generations upon generations.And UAVS UWVS and UGVs are all coming. Check out Big Dog at www.BostonDynamics.com These are THE wet dream of the corporate military complex. Why stop war when it's so damned profitable! And as new generations evolve we continue our role as the world's largest purveyor of weapons by selling older versions to those who have grown to hate us for destroying their families and villages. That way,there is a never-ending need for a new and improved product. Way too dangerous of a game to play with nukes. Things will only have a (remote) possibility of changing when they are used for domestic purposes, and lots of innocent civilians- the kind the matter-us- begin to die. As for those in other countries? What countries. It's just a virtual world out there isn't it?
Maybe the "drone team" could be defeated by flocks of highly trained "suicide pigeons" bred for high-speed, high-altitude flight, each dreaming of mating with 72 virgin pigeons in the afterlife if they are able to bring one down.
Maybe not.
The weak link is command and control. Just as 30+ US companies were recently targeted with a Trojan, the command and control systems are subject to attack. The Russians and Chinese know this. While the US spends billions on hardware the smart countries spend millions on software.
Additionally China has already demonstrated capability to physically destroy satellite networks.
Correct. One of the (many) things that our military has lost since retooling from fighting a war with another superpower to beating up goat-herders is recognition of the fragility of C&C. The Chinese ability to launch ASAT's is a very clever development, so much so that the Chinese are quick to state that they have no ASAT program.
A supposed war fought in 2047 by all ROVs would be over as soon as someone air-bursts a small strategic nuke. The ensuing EMP would cause all drones to fall from the sky, all information flow would stop, no air-cover would be provided for troops on the ground, etc.
Really, most senior military are extremely, extremely stupid, probably due to concussive blasts or long-term PTSD. The only smarts available to the military are its contractors. Often contractors do think ahead and advise their military program managers appropriately but because contractors are chasing profits, they will only build exactly what they are contractually obliged to deliver. If military planners fail to think ahead and plan for the eventuality of asymmetric war, we will always lose whatever fight we start.
Not to mention all those engineers from China - many of them trained in the West.
Sioux Rose
THE PROF: I wrote something along these lines in a thread a few weeks ago. You, too, see and identify the system's flaw, kind'a like not needing to actually buy a plane when boxcutters will do. The U.S. military, for all its muscular prowess, demands fealty to a chain of command. Ultimately that means there is only one brain operating, one human flawed command control. All others must follow orders, as opposed to thinking for themselves. This radically reduces the capacity for creative thought, spontaneity, or inventive approaches. Those items are hardly in short supply in those who lack all the money for sophisticated weaponry.
Sooner or later he who lives by the sword falls upon it. Our nation is NOT made more safe by the number of uniformed guards or investment in fancy weaponry, when the million plus killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Pakistan all have survivors, many with long memories, some with codes of vengeance. At the least this sort of delinquent international conduct will sooner or later rally a response, either unexpected or on the basis of an opposed coalition of the willing.
Couple of points that seem never to come up in these threads.
First, our government decries terrorists, and insurgents for "hiding among civilians" (and blames them for "forcing us" to bomb them). Has anyone thought that a drone pilot sitting in Nevada, or somewhere safe in the US, is actually hiding among civilians? Thus morally putting the civilians in danger and making them legitimate targets?
Or how about this, NO ONE mentions, because we are all focused on war zones, that the trend could continue by our military on our soil? That this could be one of the ultimate tools of oppression by a government on its OWN people as well, once it has been developed fully?
Instant death from the sky, at any time...
Well stated! What is also alarming is the fact that there seemed/seems to be very little debate in this so called "democracy" about the use of these weapons.
I fully expect it. The Obama Admin is "unclear" whether lynching is "legal".
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/25/white-house-mulls-legality-of-assassinating-us-born-cleric/
Sioux Rose
ONCE: That's how I see it. And how about this scenario:
United Nations convenes for a vote, and those expected to vote against some U.S. resolution receive covert letters stating that drones are keeping an eye on them.
Or the same scenario involving two highly competitive corporations. One lets the other know that through its contract with the latest Blackwater-style private army for hire, it has access to a certain drone with its rival CEO's name "on" its homing system.
Yeah, consider the possibilities!
These weapons make evil into a demure concept. The dictionary does not yet have words to describe the horrors, the planning of premeditated murder as if it were mere chess moves on an inanimate board or similar video screen. Minds focused on this sort of "strategy" surely are housed in bodies without hearts or souls or consciences.
The military refers to civilians killed during wars and other military actions as "Bug Splat". We The People Of This World are truely becoming nothing more than insects in the eyes of the Pentagon. We are certainly not humans.
"Propulsion technology and materials that can withstand the extreme heat will likely take 20 years to develop."
Well, I'm certainly glad to hear they're working on being able to withstand the heat. If we keep building drones and flying them instead of building windmills, energy storage and mechanisms to soak up the CO2 already in the atmosphere, we're going to need heat resistant stuff.
http://fora.tv/2009/08/18/A_REALLY_Inconvenient_Truth_Dan_Miller
Massive plantings of vegetation that provides maximum biomass per acre in as short a growth period as possible is a simple and cost effective way to remove CO2 from, and enrichen with oxygen, the atmosphere. It is a low tech big payoff no brainer. And it might help feed a few hungry people. What plants can we think of that provide maximum biomass per acre, and could be used as a food source, source of fiber for textiles, feedstock for plastics production and many other uses? Hmmmm... Hmmmm... if only I could think of one...
Ohh..ohh....I KNOW...pick me, pick ME!!
Cannabis/hemp.
Even as a partaker from my youth (if you consider youth stretched pretty far)
I never knew the uses and history of it til I read "The Emperor has no clothes".
Forgetting about the mdeicinal uses for a sec, even if it didn't have any
it would be a no-brainer for the incredible usage, growth (plus it envigorates
the soil for other crops, and can be grown when the other crops in rotation are
in the off season)...
Great point!
Beat me to it. :)
Hemp grows in agriculturally marginal areas, needs little water, has a large dark-green leafy surface area and is visually quite a pretty crop. A no-brainer.
AVE_fan wrote a couple of days ago hereinabove:
"Maybe the "drone team" could be defeated by flocks of highly trained "suicide pigeons" bred for high-speed, high-altitude flight, each dreaming of mating with 72 virgin pigeons in the afterlife if they are able to bring one down."
A similar thought was occurring to me around the same time. Could pigeons be trained to drop a drone into the Hudson? The term, "suicide pigeons" had not occurred to me, but it has real resonance.
It's sort of like something I read several years ago, where people under air assault were trying to aim microwave ovens at incoming.
Find a way to scramble the signal.
What a future. (What a past.)
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