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Published on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 by New America Media
Afghanistan Can’t Wash Away Vietnam
Trying to Google news of my homeland, Vietnam, over the last few weeks has not been easy. The headlines that showed were anything but Vietnam. Leading up to President Obama’s speech on why we need to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan, Vietnam has been once again reduced to America’s boogeyman.
Here are a few headlines from major news organizations: “Afghanistan haunted by ghost of Vietnam,” “Will Obama's War Become his Vietnam?” “Afghanistan is Obama’s Vietnam,” “Vietnam's lesson for Afghanistan,” “Vietnam myths haunt Afghanistan.”
Often times, indeed, when we mention the word Vietnam in the United States, we don’t mean Vietnam as a country. Vietnam is unfortunately not like Thailand or Malaysia or Singapore to America’s collective imagination. Its relationship to us is special: It is a vault filled with tragic metaphors for every pundit to use.
After the Vietnam War, Americans were caught in the past, haunted by unanswerable questions, confronted with an unhappy ending. So much so that my uncle who fought in the Vietnam War as a pilot for the South Vietnamese army, once observed that, “When Americans talk about Vietnam they really are talking about America.” “Americans don’t take defeat and bad memories very well. They try to escape them,” he said in his funny but bitter way. “They make a habit of blaming small countries for things that happen to the United States. AIDS from Haiti, flu from Hong Kong or Mexico, drugs from Columbia, hurricanes from the Caribbean.”
I once met a Vietnamese man who made money acting in Hollywood. He had survived the war and the perilous journey on the South China Sea to come to America. Now he plays Vietcong, ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) soldiers, civilians, peasants. He is a great actor, he bragged. No one recognized his face. Time and again he died, spurting fake blood from his torso and heart. At other times he screamed in pain, re-interpreting his own past. “Hollywood loves me,” he said. “I die well.”
Hollywood, of course, is free with its various interpretations. From “Apocalypse Now,” which describes an American’s mythical adventure in a tropic jungle to The “Deer Hunter,” which shows a game of Russian roulette being played out for money between an American and some Vietnamese, to “Tour of Duty,” in which American GIs raped then blew out the brains of a Vietnamese girl, to Rambo movies in which America single-handedly restored its pride, Vietnam was always the backdrop, the faceless conical hat adorned figure.
Watching such movies, Vietnamese old enough to remember the war giggle uncomfortably. These naïve interpretations of the conflict little resemble their own past. Vietnam was a three-sided war, with North and South at each other’s throats, but the Americans have insinuated themselves as central to an otherwise complex narrative in the retelling. Some Vietnamese are enraged, but many are resigned.
For what they know and won’t admit to the American audience is that for them history is a series of personal impressions. Fact and details and analysis and fancy interpretations can’t capture the truth about Vietnam any more than wildly fabricated war flicks can. Instead, Vietnamese living in America tell their children ghost stories and share their memories of the monsoon rains and harvest festivals. I, too, store in my brain a million of those memories and myths, none of which have anything to do with America’s involvement in the war. But that is another story.
Vietnam has more than doubled in population to 86 million since the war ended. It is a country full of young people, who form a large majority, with no direct memory of the Vietnam War. It is odd to think that 35 years since the war ended, it continues to stoke America’s foreign policy fears. The entire country still stands for America’s loss of innocence, its legacy of defeat and failure.
A few years ago, I went back to Vietnam to make a documentary, and I did the touristy thing: I went to the Cu Chi Tunnel in Tay Ninh Province, bordering Cambodia, a complex underground labyrinth in which the Viet Cong hid during the war.
There were a handful of American vets in their 60’s. They were back for the first time. They were very emotional. One wept and said, “I spent a long time looking for this place and lost friends doing the same.”
But the young tour guide told me that it was tourism that forced the Vietnamese to dig up the old hideouts. Then, in a whisper, young tour guide then told me discretely: “It was a lot smaller back then. But now the New Cu Chi Tunnel is very wide. You know why? To cater to very, very big Americans.”
She did not see the past. She crawled through the same tunnel with foreigners routinely but she emerged with different ideas. Her head is filled with the Golden Gate Bridge and cable cars and two-tiered freeways and Hollywood and Universal studio. “I have many friends over there now,” she said, her eyes dreamy, reflecting the collective desire of Vietnamese youth. “They invite me to come. I’m saving money for this amazing trip.”
Here’s a young woman who looks at tunnel that was the headquarters of the Vietcong and the cause of massive bombings years ago and what does she see? The Magic Kingdom. The Cu Chi tunnel leads some to the past surely, but for the young tour guide it may very well lead to the future.
On the eve of the second wave of a U.S. invasion in Afghanistan, I wish to tell the American media, as well as President Obama, that the Vietnam syndrome cannot be kicked through acts of war. That only through a view that’s rooted in people, rooted in human kindness, and not historical vehemence, would a country open itself up and stop being a haunting metaphor. That not until human basic needs are addressed and human dignity upheld can we truly pacify our enemies and bring about human liberty. And that more soldiers and bombs and droids in the sky will never appease the haunting ghosts of the past. Quite the opposite. We are in the process of creating more ghosts to haunt future generations.
Years ago, the poet Robert Bly argued that Americans have yet to perform an ablution over past atrocities. "We're engaged in a vast forgetting mechanism and from the point of view of psychology, we're refusing to eat our grief, refusing to really eat our dark side," Bly told Bill Moyers on public television. "And therefore what Jung says is really terrifying: if you do not absorb the things you have done in your life...then you will have to repeat them."
It may very well be that that the tragedy of Vietnam cannot simply be overcome with some supposed military victory but with another tragedy of equal if not greater proportion. It may very well be that a few years from now, when it’s all over, the new American tourists can visit the caves of Tora Bora to weep at some hole in the ground, thinking about the futility of it all.
Here are a few headlines from major news organizations: “Afghanistan haunted by ghost of Vietnam,” “Will Obama's War Become his Vietnam?” “Afghanistan is Obama’s Vietnam,” “Vietnam's lesson for Afghanistan,” “Vietnam myths haunt Afghanistan.”
Often times, indeed, when we mention the word Vietnam in the United States, we don’t mean Vietnam as a country. Vietnam is unfortunately not like Thailand or Malaysia or Singapore to America’s collective imagination. Its relationship to us is special: It is a vault filled with tragic metaphors for every pundit to use.
After the Vietnam War, Americans were caught in the past, haunted by unanswerable questions, confronted with an unhappy ending. So much so that my uncle who fought in the Vietnam War as a pilot for the South Vietnamese army, once observed that, “When Americans talk about Vietnam they really are talking about America.” “Americans don’t take defeat and bad memories very well. They try to escape them,” he said in his funny but bitter way. “They make a habit of blaming small countries for things that happen to the United States. AIDS from Haiti, flu from Hong Kong or Mexico, drugs from Columbia, hurricanes from the Caribbean.”
I once met a Vietnamese man who made money acting in Hollywood. He had survived the war and the perilous journey on the South China Sea to come to America. Now he plays Vietcong, ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) soldiers, civilians, peasants. He is a great actor, he bragged. No one recognized his face. Time and again he died, spurting fake blood from his torso and heart. At other times he screamed in pain, re-interpreting his own past. “Hollywood loves me,” he said. “I die well.”
Hollywood, of course, is free with its various interpretations. From “Apocalypse Now,” which describes an American’s mythical adventure in a tropic jungle to The “Deer Hunter,” which shows a game of Russian roulette being played out for money between an American and some Vietnamese, to “Tour of Duty,” in which American GIs raped then blew out the brains of a Vietnamese girl, to Rambo movies in which America single-handedly restored its pride, Vietnam was always the backdrop, the faceless conical hat adorned figure.
Watching such movies, Vietnamese old enough to remember the war giggle uncomfortably. These naïve interpretations of the conflict little resemble their own past. Vietnam was a three-sided war, with North and South at each other’s throats, but the Americans have insinuated themselves as central to an otherwise complex narrative in the retelling. Some Vietnamese are enraged, but many are resigned.
For what they know and won’t admit to the American audience is that for them history is a series of personal impressions. Fact and details and analysis and fancy interpretations can’t capture the truth about Vietnam any more than wildly fabricated war flicks can. Instead, Vietnamese living in America tell their children ghost stories and share their memories of the monsoon rains and harvest festivals. I, too, store in my brain a million of those memories and myths, none of which have anything to do with America’s involvement in the war. But that is another story.
Vietnam has more than doubled in population to 86 million since the war ended. It is a country full of young people, who form a large majority, with no direct memory of the Vietnam War. It is odd to think that 35 years since the war ended, it continues to stoke America’s foreign policy fears. The entire country still stands for America’s loss of innocence, its legacy of defeat and failure.
A few years ago, I went back to Vietnam to make a documentary, and I did the touristy thing: I went to the Cu Chi Tunnel in Tay Ninh Province, bordering Cambodia, a complex underground labyrinth in which the Viet Cong hid during the war.
There were a handful of American vets in their 60’s. They were back for the first time. They were very emotional. One wept and said, “I spent a long time looking for this place and lost friends doing the same.”
But the young tour guide told me that it was tourism that forced the Vietnamese to dig up the old hideouts. Then, in a whisper, young tour guide then told me discretely: “It was a lot smaller back then. But now the New Cu Chi Tunnel is very wide. You know why? To cater to very, very big Americans.”
She did not see the past. She crawled through the same tunnel with foreigners routinely but she emerged with different ideas. Her head is filled with the Golden Gate Bridge and cable cars and two-tiered freeways and Hollywood and Universal studio. “I have many friends over there now,” she said, her eyes dreamy, reflecting the collective desire of Vietnamese youth. “They invite me to come. I’m saving money for this amazing trip.”
Here’s a young woman who looks at tunnel that was the headquarters of the Vietcong and the cause of massive bombings years ago and what does she see? The Magic Kingdom. The Cu Chi tunnel leads some to the past surely, but for the young tour guide it may very well lead to the future.
On the eve of the second wave of a U.S. invasion in Afghanistan, I wish to tell the American media, as well as President Obama, that the Vietnam syndrome cannot be kicked through acts of war. That only through a view that’s rooted in people, rooted in human kindness, and not historical vehemence, would a country open itself up and stop being a haunting metaphor. That not until human basic needs are addressed and human dignity upheld can we truly pacify our enemies and bring about human liberty. And that more soldiers and bombs and droids in the sky will never appease the haunting ghosts of the past. Quite the opposite. We are in the process of creating more ghosts to haunt future generations.
Years ago, the poet Robert Bly argued that Americans have yet to perform an ablution over past atrocities. "We're engaged in a vast forgetting mechanism and from the point of view of psychology, we're refusing to eat our grief, refusing to really eat our dark side," Bly told Bill Moyers on public television. "And therefore what Jung says is really terrifying: if you do not absorb the things you have done in your life...then you will have to repeat them."
It may very well be that that the tragedy of Vietnam cannot simply be overcome with some supposed military victory but with another tragedy of equal if not greater proportion. It may very well be that a few years from now, when it’s all over, the new American tourists can visit the caves of Tora Bora to weep at some hole in the ground, thinking about the futility of it all.
Copyright © Pacific News Service
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Show AllThe Unseen Memorial
Forget about shelter
Forget about healthcare
Forget about feeding the world!
The environment, THEY say,
is inclined toward decay,
but comfort and confidence reinforce our dreaming
Of our "lifestyle" there's a "way"
above all else THAT must stay
because consumption gives validation and meaning
Focus on our power
Focus on our conceits
Focus on our dominant role!
In blissful DOGMA we sing
(as we lose everything)
and refuse to acknowledge any contradiction
Our bombing and polluting
committed, REcommitting
a desperate, crushing need for our own distraction
Demand security
Demand intolerance
Demand the virtual virtue!
So, who cares if we borrow
as if there's no tomorrow?
Our devotion to our IMAGE cannot be discharged
And though death be our owe,
by choosing spite over sorrow
Ours will be the biggest monument in the graveyard.
Very good and fitting poem.
Simply, wonderful. It is really tragic that another blunder will spread like a jungle fire. It will cost more lives on both sides just for the greed and macho stupidity. There should be a big protest.
Not "a big protest", but a MASSIVE, HUGE one.
Good Article ----- Sorry to disappoint the Author but it made me think of one VERY IMPORTANT similiarity.
In Afghanistan in 1978, pre Soviet invasion, the USA armed landlords and foundamentalists rebelling against the reformist socialist government..
In Vietnam the USA blocked UN mandated elections because the reformist communist would win thus the USA again backed the landlords and bloodily oppossed progressive improvement for the population.
It's an excellent (enough) article, but I agree that there are similarities. There are similarities with all wars. "War is a RACKET"; wars kill, murder, massacre innocent people, destroy villages, towns, cities, corrupt governments, and so on; soldiers serve and die based on lies; families of killed soldiers cry; military tactics are repeated, like, f.e., "Salvador Option in Iraq" (see BRusselsTribunal.org); etcetera.
I agree very much with the article's essence, and I've always disliked referring to the war on Afghanistan as another Vietnam. It was odd to do. I didn't see any reason for this, for there are similarities, but there are with all wars; and I think we should just treat each war for what it is. With U.S. or western wars on others, it's always against the populations; not only their governments. And wars only against the governments would also be criminal.
Sorry for multiple postings, but I'm again unable to make more than very short posts (and it's similar with sending emails); however, do any of you think that referring to the U.S. failure in Vietnam when referring to the war on Afghanistan and asking Obama to stop this can work? If you do, then get out of disneyland and realise that you're not teaching him anything he doesn't already know.
Futility, indeed. And if the Buffalo Soldier-in-Chief were to order the Army back to fill up the 'Nam hole tomorrow; they'd do it and then begin digging it again the day after, on his countermand! US Manifest Insanity!
Beautiful article. Thanks for the Bly reference...I've often thought that our lack of atonement---or even acknowledgement---of "our" genocide of Native Americans will always haunt the USA.
Beautiful article. Thanks for the Bly reference...I've often thought that our lack of atonement---or even acknowledgement---of "our" genocide of Native Americans will always haunt the USA.
And the end of the fight
is a tombstone white
With the name of the late deceased
The epitaph drear
A Fool Lies Here
Who tried to hustle the East
-Rudyard Kipling
"After the Vietnam War, Americans were caught in the past, haunted by unanswerable questions, confronted with an unhappy ending."
The questions were not unanswerable -- just that most Americans didn't like the answers, and they don't like the truthful answers about what is happening now, and about themselves -- who and what they are. The greatest sin for citizens of an empire is to acknowledge the truth about the empire -- or it's victims.
Why 'or', when it's both?
An absolutely terrific article. Some great insights that many Americans don't understand.
Interesting what Lam says about those American tourists. I have plenty of Vietnamese Americans in my office. Most of them speak very poor English, act lazy and blabber all the time, and are worse than the average working American. None of them care to visit Vietnam and believe in the corporate media propaganda. They even support the Vietnam war ! Throw all my Vietnamese American fatso co-workers back to Vietnam and see how long they last !
pappy bush claimed to have buried the Vietnam Syndrome in Iraq's desert.
his idiot kid dug it up again.
does 0 really think he can re-inter it?
Andrew Lam is correct, America has yet to own its defeat.
until it does it will continue to thrash about and lash out like the wounded beast it is.
What utterly stupid comments here.
Now that's an idiotic statement.
I know but it was the nicest thing I could think to say, all things considered.