Just Say “NO” to the War in Afghanistan
Or should we call it "Again-istan?"
Some people never learn. The arrogance of empire? Ignorance of history? Political opportunism? Or cowardice to confront the global challenges we face?
These factors probably all contribute to the current incredible situation, in which the United States is debating whether to escalate its military presence there or maintain a lower-level intensity, relying on mechanical warfare in order to focus the war instead in Pakistan. Neither option makes any sense.
What is absent from the debate (just as it was absent when the United States escalated the war in Vietnam or when it created the war in Iraq) is the perspective of the peace movement and of spiritual progressives.
Instead, President Obama had the audacity and shortsightedness to declare that the fight in Afghanistan is a "war of necessity" that is "fundamental to the defense of our people." Talking about switching the war from Iraq to Afghanistan might have seemed a politically clever way to show that he was not "soft" when he sought the presidency, but restating that rationale now that he is president has boxed him into the same misconceptions that have led the United States into losing wars for the past fifty years.
The narrow argument for war in Afghanistan, based on America's unresolved trauma from September 11, is that if al-Qaida gets control through the Taliban of a country in which it can train militants, it will strike again at America, perhaps this next time with nuclear weapons that it acquires from Pakistan, which has them, or by obtaining homemade or stolen atomic weapons.
It's not that it is impossible to imagine terrorists acquiring a nuclear weapon and detonating it in the United States. The scientific knowledge and the means of implementing it are out there in the world. Many countries have already built these weapons, and nuclear proliferation increases the likelihood that they may fall into ever more irresponsible hands.
There is plenty to fear when hundreds of millions of people feel so desperate and angry that they might be willing to use such weapons. The error in the reasoning behind the "war on terror" is that this nightmare scenario cannot be prevented by the United States imposing itself on one country after another in the Middle East and in every other area where terrorists might be able to steal or develop nuclear weapons.
In the short run, the United States needs to improve its defensive capacities through careful scrutiny of the airplanes, boats, and containers that reach this country. Such scrutiny measures, some of which were implemented after September 11, should be given greater attention. But the deep truth is this: there is no way to ensure that a group of terrorists will never obtain and set off an atomic bomb in an American city. As the technology of mass destruction and delivery of bombs becomes more sophisticated, the vulnerability will increase, regardless of what happens in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, or other countries in that region. The solution has to lie with eliminating people's desire to destroy us.
Acknowledge the Causes of Terrorism
The whole notion of a war on terrorism is fundamentally misguided. Terrorism is a tactic used by people who do not have the powerful armies of the world at their disposal, and hence they will use homemade or stolen weapons against those who they believe to be oppressing them. If you have a population of 6.7 billion on the planet, the only way to absolutely control terrorism is to put surveillance devices into every home in the world so that everyone is so terrified of the police and so scared to express their anger that they have no possibility of resorting to terror. In that case -- total fascism -- the solution is far worse than the problem.
The obvious alternative is to address the grievances and problems that lead people to want to strike out against the West in general and the United States in particular. We've mentioned these in past editorials:
- The Western impact on traditional societies has been destructive. While helping to develop a small middle class, the penetration of American corporations, the Western global media, and the capitalist marketplace have fostered an ethos of individualism, materialism, and selfishness. This is correctly perceived as having partially destroyed the religions and forms of cultural/communal solidarity within which people felt a sense of higher purpose and meaning to their lives. We recognize that many traditional societies have a strong downside, based as they are on authoritarian and patriarchal practices that are themselves oppressive. But the way to challenge those effectively is to support the development of spiritual and religious renewal that educates girls, empowers women, validates individual freedom within (not counterposed to) commitment to a community, and affirms the humanity of others in different spiritual and religious traditions. In short, we should actively support spiritual renewal, rather than attempt to replace traditional religions with the religion of the capitalist marketplace.
We cannot beat fundamentalism through consumer materialism and the ethos of "looking out for number one." This is especially true because of the changes that accompany such materialism and selfishness: the weakening of family ties; the prevalence of pornography and cheapening of sex into another commodity for sale and manipulation in the competitive marketplace; the elimination of any kind of economic safety net provided by people who genuinely care about you; and the obliteration of spiritual consciousness in favor of a one-dimensional version of technocratic rationality in which the accumulation of money and power is seen as the only real value in life. These changes are sure to evoke a powerful, angry, and at times violent response from those who have benefited from living in communities in which caring for each other has been part of their daily lives. If the alternative to fundamentalism is subjugation to Western values and to Western military and economic domination, people will take up arms and they will find a way to reach the United States with terrorist violence. These same concerns play out in a different but potentially just as violent way inside some parts of the United States itself, when right-wingers articulate this anger - ignoring how the social alienation and disintegration they rightly lament is rooted in the capitalist marketplace they champion - and then seek to channel that anger against liberals and enlightenment values, even at times advocating violence against President Obama.
- Moreover, even those who are not motivated primarily by a desire to resist Western forms of modernization are moved to violence by the effects of capitalist economic penetration. One need only look at the huge belts of poverty in the ghettos and barrios of major cities around the world to see the degree of hunger and malnutrition, to recognize the growing prostitution of young girls and boys desperately seeking to feed their families, and to witness the hundreds of millions of economic migrants and refugees seeking some place to make a living. These victims of our global economic arrangements are sitting ducks for ideologies that preach anger and violence against those Western powers that are seen as arrogantly ignoring this suffering. The fundamental disrespect and even humiliation that people in traditional societies experience when their own children begin to respond to the ethos of the marketplace, breaking away from traditional families so that they can sell themselves through prostitution or through pursuing self-interest and material gain at the expense of their connections to traditional spiritual communities, cannot be underestimated. Extremist forms of fundamentalist Islam or other forms of religious or political ideologies will spread and provide people with a way to express their anger at the West.
- While claiming to bring democracy, we've simply imposed governments that agree to protect American corporate power. The Karzai government in Afghanistan tried to steal its recent election and proclaim itself a democracy -- but fooled no one. The Iraqi democracy was imposed under occupation by U.S. troops and is unlikely to sustain itself once the United States really withdraws (not just its combat troops, but also the 80,000 "advisers" and countless independent contractors from the West). So while the West pretends that its mission is humanistic and aimed at spreading democracy and human rights, its hypocrisy becomes evident, thereby fueling people's willingness to engage in violence against those who are perceived as occupiers.
Champions of the war in Afghanistan willfully ignore all this. They imagine that all this anger can be contained by yet another military intervention. They ignore the history of the Afghanis' successful resistance to one foreign occupier after another, including the British and the Soviets. They refuse to acknowledge to themselves that the U.S. occupation of Iraq increased the violence of civil war, providing the weapons that Iraqis might have had no other way to obtain.
A Strategy to Disempower Terrorists
War is not the answer, and certainly not a war run by the United States.
The first step that is needed is to abandon the notion of a "war on terrorism." Drop it. Proclaim it already won. Or more honestly, acknowledge that there never can be a war against terrorism because terrorism is a tactic -- the tactic of attacking civilians to spread fear. And that tactic has been used by the United States in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and many other places in the world.
The second step is to replace the notion of war with the notion of police actions aimed at protecting people from organized bunches of criminals who seek to terrorize domestic populations or to impose their own religious, political, or economic rule on local communities that do not want that rule. The creation of an international police force of this sort, charged also with protecting development projects to improve the quality of life of people on the village and small-town level, should be given the highest priority. Moreover, representatives of countries that together represent the majority of the citizens of the world must be significantly involved in the formulation of this force. We should try to get this created through the United Nations: not a toothless police force like those which have characterized the UN presence in Sudan, Rwanda, and the Congo, but a force that has a mandate to use all appropriate means to protect citizens against the harassment and oppression imposed by groups like the Taliban. But if there is no such willingness on the part of these countries to participate in creating and financing such a police force, the United States and other Western countries should not step into that space but should instead focus on defending their own borders, while continuing to beg the peoples of the world to step up and share the responsibility for creating an international police force whose sole aim is to protect local communities from the violence of those who seek to impose their rule by force.
The third step is for the nuclear states to eliminate nuclear weapons. A careful global effort to protect every nuclear facility and to govern the creation and production of nuclear power should replace nuclear proliferation - but this will never happen if the nuclear states retain their own nuclear stashes. What, for instance, could possibly induce Arab states or Iran to eliminate the possibility of nuclear weapons when they know that Israel has close to 200 such weapons of its own, which it may rely on in case of war? Or what could induce India or Pakistan to reduce their nuclear arsenals as long as they fear each other's - or China's - nuclear weapons? As long as the current nuclear powers retain their weapons, proliferation is inevitable, and with it comes the danger of crazies obtaining those weapons and using them in terrorist attacks.
The fourth step is for the advanced industrial societies, led by the United States, to launch immediately a Domestic and Global Marshall Plan that would dedicate between 2 percent and 5 percent of their gross domestic product each year for the next twenty to once and for all end global poverty, homelessness, hunger, inadequate education, and inadequate health care, and to repair the global environment. We've outlined a way to do this that would avoid the corruption that has bedeviled various aid plans, as well as prevent the mistaken allocation of this aid to ruling elites, thus ensuring that the aid goes toward building the economic, educational, and health infrastructures that could succeed in permanently defeating global poverty. This step must be taken alongside of and with equal priority to the first three steps, and not as an afterthought or delayed till the other steps are shown to be effective, because they will not succeed unless they are accompanied by this step and its explicit articulation of an alternative worldview. Check out this "strategy of generosity" at www.spiritualprogressives.org.
The fifth step is to give public support to the creation and sustenance of those in the religious and spiritual world who are teaching variants of their own religions that insist on the need to respect and actively provide caring for all, including for members of other religions. It should be a high priority to provide training, education, and media support to those who are seeking to renew their own religious traditions in ways that emphasize the equal rights and entitlements of women and girls, the need to acknowledge that there are multiple paths to salvation or to connection with God, and the need to rejoice in the diversity of religious and spiritual approaches and to acknowledge them all as potentially valid to the extent that they themselves are committed to ethical, ecological, and communal values likely to enhance peace, mutual understanding, and deep spiritual connection to the universe.
Finally, step six: the Western countries, starting with the United States, must publicly insist that, although they are adopting a strategy of generosity in part because doing so is in our best interests, having finally come to the understanding that in the twenty-first century our well-being (both individually and as a society) depends on the well-being of everyone else on the planet, the deeper reason is because we know generosity to be morally right. We must recognize that the path of arrogant self-interest and self-aggrandizement that has characterized the West's interactions with the rest of the world is morally wrong. For that reason, we must start this new direction with a serious process of repentance, in which we publicly acknowledge the hurts we and other Western countries have imposed on the rest of the world. Using the South African model of Truth and Reconciliation, we should set up tribunals in which we in the United States listen to the testimony of those who have been hurt by the role of Western colonialism and imperialism, including Native Americans, African Americans, and immigrant groups in the United States, and extending this process to all the countries of the world where U.S. or Western economic and political involvement has caused pain and humiliation. This process should become a center of our public discourse. It should be taught in our schools. Any media that uses the public airwaves, publicly supported electricity, public mail, or public-supported streets and highways should be mandated to give some prime time coverage each day to the presentation of this information.
In short, we either pursue the same old ethically, environmentally, and economically destructive policies of war, or we embrace a new path of fundamental change. This new path should be based in part on repentance and atonement for how we have gone wrong. And it should replace the capitalist ethos of looking out for number one and the commitment to "progress" (understood as the endless accumulation of new material goods and electronic gadgets) with a new ethos of love, generosity, ecological sanity, and awe and wonder at the grandeur of the universe.
What Keeps the United States from Adopting a Rational Strategy in Afghanistan?
There are significant impediments to this transition in American consciousness that constrain Obama and the other very decent people who are running the society at this moment. They include:
- The military and its worldview. Obama administration officials may know that a military strategy cannot win, but they still ask for more troops because they imagine that they can pacify a country through techniques of sophisticated counter-insurgency. No way will this work. The military lacks the appropriate ideological framework and troops. Military training is all about the most effective way to dominate others, to kill. If you train a pit bull to bite, don't get angry at it for biting. If you train a military to dominate, don't be surprised if it is not the mechanism for building trust, whether that is in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Israel/Palestine.
- The greed and economic interests of America's corporate elite. The elite have convinced themselves that they really are acting in a generous and caring way in the world by spreading the capitalist marketplace. The truth is that business does in fact improve some aspects of life for people: it provides more material goods for some sectors of the population in countries around the world. But it's easy to focus on the improved quality of life for the developing middle classes in many countries while ignoring the increased suffering for other sections of the population that corporate policies have engendered. Corporate leaders have immense power in shaping the American political discourse in ways that tend to reinforce the military option as the only "realistic" possibility. Deeply rooted in a materialist worldview, they are unable to even begin to see how their global system marginalizes other values in other cultures, like the value of connectivity to the land, to community or to God/spiritual life.
- Public ignorance. The erosion of political culture in the United States, the focus on short-term fixes, and the dumbing-down of the population by the media cause astounding levels of ignorance about the rest of the world and about the suffering of our own neighbors inside the United States
- Eight years of undermining international law, honesty, reasoned debate, and a sense of the proper and restricted role of the military.
If you want to get out of a hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging. That's our advice to Obama: say no to the military. Fire McChrystal, Gates, and all his major supporters who helped leak the information about what he thought was necessary, rather than going through you first, Mr. President. Announce the six-point strategy for U.S. security articulated above. Close down the thousand American military bases around the world and use the savings to launch the Domestic and Global Marshall Plan. Act resolutely, without hesitation, and replace those advisers and those military leaders who will not actively embrace this direction. Use your power as commander in chief and ignore the right-wing media barrage you will certainly face, no matter what you do.
Obama could take this path. He is not doing so. Nor is there anyone in the public sphere ready to talk this language. That is why it is so very important for YOU, dear reader, to spread these ideas, to help us develop and refine the articulation of them, and to work with us to bring these ideas into the public arena. And come to our national conference June 11-14, 2010, in Washington, D.C.
God puts it simply enough in the Bible: Behold I have set before you this day life and death. Choose life.
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32 Comments so far
Show AllYeah, but the Bloatocracy will just pay to have others thrown to the sharks. It's the American Way! :-)
Small suggestion:
If you steal, kill or destroy things and/or people, you go to prison and work in a prison facility to pay for what you have done with your earnings until you die of old age.
No exceptions for politicians who voted for war or gave the orders.
No exceptions for military personnel.
ONE exception for liars who say they didn't do these things and are proven to have done them (those don't go to prison; they provide nutrition and sustenance to the shark tank). The public will be charged admission to watch the shark feeding. Proceeds will go to the victims of the liars.
I like the above--a LOT! Especially feeding liars to the sharks!
But, re: the Rabbi Lerner's article:
I couldn't read it--I tried.
Then I read the last line, about God, and I thought:
Why would I want to read ANYTHING by someone who believes in a MAGICAL CLOUD BEING?
Let's live in the age of Empiricism, shall we?
K-thanks.
True Patriot
the rabbi says, "It's not that it is impossible to imagine terrorists acquiring a nuclear weapon and detonating it in the United States."
my response,
its not hard to imagine unless you are NOT a paranoid delusional.
I which case you can face reality.
USA makes millions of redundant omnicidal nuclear waepons and threaten the life of everyone and everything on the planet with them
as we hold them on hair trigger allert. But somehow it's us who are afraid.
there are deep levels of nutty dangerous psychosis just under the surface of the rabbis words.
someones is out to kill us ? perhaps if we get brinks homeland security. LOL
All I know is, if the terrorists do get a nuclear weapon, the label will say Made in the USA.
But having all those weapons does not mean no one will attack the US.
Very potent weapons like that are a great deterrent against nation-states. All they are for decentralized resistors is provocation.
The US is providing an awful lot of people an awful lot of provocation, not just in the obvious active wars.
Nice question Jennifer above, hi.
The US wants India our proxy power in region & Pak denuclearised. (lt Gen Gul)
A nuclear component recently went "astray." False alarm they say.
How would US go in? After UBL in Balochistan, cavalry, bugle cries, w/ Custer.
(primary source, article on antiwar.com today.)
Nancy's Raygun's "just say no to drugs" never worked even when our society was conditioned into believing the anti-marijuana propaganda. How can we expect "just say no to war" to work here when society is hooked to foreign wars?
More day dreaming.
There is simply not enough time to politically undo the policies that have been the basis of the world's major capitalist operations here (for over two centuries). The situation is at critical mass. Action is needed.
For all intents and purposes, we have no defense here at home. One major attack and we're toast. I imagine they can already strike at will, its just a matter of time. It would be total chaos and a total breakdown of the nation.
Then what? Attend Mr. Lerner's "national conference in June"?
Rabbi Lerner makes sense. Civil war, World War one, World War two, Vietnam, Korea, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan: when will humans mature to the point that we can solve conflicts without killing? Why can't we practice what we preach to our children?
A lot of fancy words to say new age cliche things. Less Lerner and more Chomsky please. Within the "new-age", "new- thought", thought reform "religious renewal" movement lies a sinister level of racism and totalistic thinking. Ideas like "religious renewal that educates girls, empowers women" holds some deeply rooted racism. Afghanistan actually had a very modern and developed school system way back in the 1920s. In the 1960s Afghan women went to modern universities wearing miniskirts or anything else they wished to wear. Lerner says,
"step six: the Western countries, starting with the United States, must publicly insist that, although they are adopting a strategy of generosity...have come to the understanding that in the twenty-first century our well-being (both individually and as a society) depends on the well-being of everyone else on the planet," this is racist paternalism. America doesn't have the right or superior standing to fix other peoples "well-being". As a matter of fact our sense of "well-being" and our system of "values" is extreemly distorted and pathological. We need to simply let every living thing on earth determine its own sense of "well-being" and "values". We are not the strong and the fit who gererously "help" the cute little brown people. Lerner urges,"launch the Domestic and Global Marshall Plan". The first rule of ending white supremacy is to simply stop telling other people what to do. It's actually quite a simple plan to just stop acting like we have the answers for everyone else. Rabbi Lerner's new age "plan" full of answers for everyone else is just more of the same old fascist totalistic crap.
Agreed completely! And projecting the sickness of violence here as the rest of the world's problem that has to somehow come together to fight what is largely this country's doing seems to be more "asleep at the wheel". Yes there is violence in the world but not anywhere on the level of aggression and arrogance as the USA.
He offers this as a suggestion:
"creating an international police force whose sole aim is to protect local communities from the violence of those who seek to impose their rule by force"
Who is the largest perpetrator in the world of imposing their rule by force? And can you imagine the USA allowing anyone else to police us?
Trying to argue against the pro war attitude is reasoning with insanity. It is impossible. Shows how far we are from peace and justice. But I continue to go to our weekly vigils. And am encouraged by the people that stop an urge us on.
Well said.
I said "No" to all war a long time ago. Love me, hate me, be apathetic to me, whatever makes you happy.
Pay your bills, obey the law, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and thank God life is short in your world.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
You are right.
The whole thing started because of Israel and oil. To not acknowledge and redress this before resorting to escalation is to remain in denial. Why?
Rabbi Learner please meet David Michael Green;
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/14-1
David Michael Green please introduce Rabbi Learner to reality!
If Rabbi Learner is sincere in his call to get out of Afghanistan, then I would recommend that he publish a retraction for his support of electing Obama president in the first place.
Does the good Rabbi really believe Obama is going to pull out now that he backed himself into a corner?
In order for Obama to save face with the military industrial establishment, he now has to follow through with tens of thousands of troops, thus escalating US forces to the region by endorsing the failed Bush policies via proxy.
This will drag on well into Obama's second term (assuming he gets it) and Rabbi Learner will continue to learn the hard way that once a politician gets in office, they no longer need the sheep who elect them.
Doubly surprising is Rabbi Learner contradicts one of his own books where he once advocated for third party representation. Oh, well, another dreamer who joins the status quo platform, and then when things don't work out, bangs on the wall afterword.
I listened to Hilary Clinton today on Meet The Press asserting that the OBama Admin is only concerned with wiping out the terrorist network; It certainly begs the question: is Hilary really that naive (or is she just another product of marketing and acting lessons?) to believe a world-wide network of terrorist activity is going to be diminished as she and Obama continue covert air-strikes on non-combatants thus winning their "hearts and minds?"
Hilary and Obama are nothing more than propagandists of the first order seeking to extend what the visionary thinker Chalmers Johnson calls the US strategy "an empire of bases" to insure US military domination of regions for containment of emerging nations like China for the sake of US hegemony on world wide natural resources. It wont be long before US is fighting wars over diminished and diminishing water supplies: whoever has the biggest stick will insure the survival of US commodity fetishism in all its lovely forms. Meanwhile, let the peasants suffer and die elsewhere so to insure Johnny Smith back home gets his new GI Joe for Christmas.
I hope he does say no to the escalation of war, indeed the continuing occupation of the country, as well. But I'll not hold my breath.
There are only two ways for the usa to achieve a 'victory' in Afghanistan.
1) declare victory and leave.
2) kill everyone who lives there.
If you listen to the whackos on the right, the second option is the one they prefer. It is a Roman style of peace, they created a wasteland and call it peace.
I like Lerner's breakdown:
1. military worldview (imperialism)
2. corporate greed
3. public ignorance
4. eight years of precedents
However, this goes way back before the Bush years, as others have pointed out. The US has overthrown democratically elected governments for many years (Iran, Guatemala, Haiti, Chile, Panama, Nicaragua) etc. and replaced them with brutal dictatorships. More recently the US is implicated in the coup in Honduras, and the attempted coup in Venezuela. They call Chavez a dangerous dictator even though he won landslides in internationally observed elections.
The priamary reason why the US entered WWI was because the banksters would lose too much if the British lost, not because of the propaganda we are taught.
Then we add the The Korean war, the Vietnam wars...
The Spanish American war was started under a false flag operation: "Remember the Maine" to give the USA the excuse for imperial conquest.
And so on
Excellent article with real solutions if there were a courageous leader to implement them.
Two minor criticisms we need to shed describing the bloated rich with the positive term "elite".
And the current system of predatory capitalism destroys both the middle class and the poor and in fact whole nations.
I view the term "elite" as deeply negative. But I do agree that more fitting terms and metaphors need be used. The ruling Oligarchy, Plutocracy, Economic Vampires, parasitical classes are more descriptive.
locust is on to something. what lbj did in vietnam was probably worse than what bush did in iraq. lbj said ,"let"s bomb north vietnam because two us destroyers were fired upon in the gulf of tonkin". how flimsy a pretext is that! no destroyer was hit, and the crews later admitted that the splashes they saw might just as well have been from jumping fish. those splashes, my friends, merited tons of bombs and cost hundreds of lives. at least saddam had possessed weapons of mass destruction and was a bona fide bastard by all accounts. still, the invasion was wrong; you had inspectors on the ground trying to find illegal weapons when bush told them to go home. he was ready to bomb. still a war crime, no doubt, since he had good information that there were no wmds, but refused to let the public know. and only 3 senators voted against the gulf of tonkin resolution, whereas there was a significant minority of senators opposed to the attack on iraq. bush told the inspectors to leave because he knew they wouldn't find anything.
Yes, but dont' forget the US supported (with arms and money) the French imperialists in Indochina from Truman's time until the US fully took over the imperialist adventure. Don't forget the dynamic duo of Nixon/Kissinger in carpet bombing Laos and Cambodia that resulted in 100s of thousands of innocents being killed.
Being the world's only military hyperpower means we need never say sorry or admit war crimes. We did it for "freedom and democracy(TM)"
The current imperialist adventures claim the same things, it doesen't matter how many thousands are killed, murder is murder.
Obama has already laid his political pecker on the chopping block. It may be chopped off by Mullah Omar or Sarah Palin or Lloyd Blankfein but someone is inevitably going to chop it off. And the totally avoidable tragedy of Afghanistan will have helped swing the axe.
Thank you Rabbi Lerner, some great ideas.It is nice to read a positive altruistic and honest appraisal of the U.S. position right now. The solutions you suggest are as always very welcome, however I wonder about another "global police force" and the potential for its' misuse.It would probably be used to protect the capitalist market place ,instead of the people intended.Have you read the "Open veins of Latin America"Five centuries of the Pillage of a Continent",By Edwardo Galeano ? It is the book given to President Obama by President Hugo Chavez at the O.A.S. meeting this spring.It is a great primer on the history of development projects around the world.Otherwise a great piece to meditate on and thanks for the link to your site. peace
Remember, the Korean War was not a war, it was a "Police Action" which has not ended to this day; the major fighting just finally stopped.
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Forgotten Wars, Forgotten Warriors
Korea, they say, was not a war.
It was a “Police Action.”
Which would you rather die as?
A “policeman,” or a soldier?
Or would you perhaps rather live?
At least Korea had a reason,
Flawed, of course, but a reason.
Most of the world pitched in to fight
On one side or the other.
How many died before it finally burned out?
Vietnam was an accident, turned into a war.
A people who fought for their independence.
A millennium against the Chinese,
A century against the French.
Thousands died, were tortured, jailed.
Overrun by Japan, they fought for freedom.
At war’s end, they were given back to France,
So again they had to fight;
At Dien Bien Phu, they won.
The time of rejoicing was short.
Like Korea, the country was divided up.
The Western Nations made the decision.
South Vietnam to be “ours”
North Vietnam to be “theirs.”
No one asked the People of their desires.
Once more the Vietnamese had to fight
To expel the foreign occupiers,
Remove their puppet governments,
Reaffirm their independence.
Does hubris come with power, or vice versa?
Advisors were sent in
To help build the ARVN army.
Then to fight with the ARVN;
Finally to die with the ARVN.
Would you rather be No. 1, or No. 58,178?
Rulers were changed as the war went on.
The key is, the war went on.
The Phoenix burned on its pyre
Hatching new warriors for the cause.
For every village that dies, avengers arise.
A new Pearl Harbor was needed,
To fully unleash the dogs of war.
Tonkin Gulf was the catalyst,
A Black Op by the USA.
B-52's can destroy property, but not ideas.
We carpet bombed the north,
Poisoned the land with Orange and Purple.
Our troops were collateral damage,
Not to be recognized for years.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
As the years rolled on,
We found it impossible to tell
Friend from foe, in a country that
Simply wanted us out!
Strange that all peoples resist occupation.
Finally, the last helicopters left Embassy Row
Saigon became Ho Chi Minh City
And we had learned a hard lesson,
Now engraved upon a wall.
Only vets learn the real lesson of war.
Thirty years later,
Another “Pearl Harbor,”
Another pair of wars,
The foundation poured for yet another Wall.
They who dodged ‘Nam start a new war.
Read the above poem again
Make the place names Afghan, Iraqi.
Substitute DU for Agent Orange
Government denial is still there
We don’t count their dead, or show ours.
Now, in the Pentagon, the plans are made
At Bush/Cheney’s desperate urging.
We, or Israel (with our backing)
Are next to nuke Iran!
And thus unleash the final holocaust.
Russia, China, and others, no doubt,
Will retaliate with nukes of their own.
In time, not long, there will be few left
To count our dead, or remember.
The Nuclear Dragon will have eaten us all.
How long will it be before We the People
Break the wheel of death?
How many more thousands, or millions, to die
To be maimed, poisoned?
What happened to our Constitution?
Once upon a time we defended!
We fought for freedom, democracy,
Not oil and Empire...once upon a time.
We don’t need Roman Legions.
Let us remember our dead, not create more.
Stephen M. Osborn
19 December 2006
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Nothing much seems to have changed, does it?
afghanistan is a septic tank of empire at its finest
lies, hate, paranoia, militarism and money drive the situation with the ultimate goal of - after securing the resources of the area and then driving through the pipelines to carry said resources - world domination
the nwo - as bush daddy called it during the state of the union address delivered 9/11/91 - exactly 1 decade to the day of the self-inflicted false flag event of 9/11/01 - the day we are more familiar with
the nwo - the rothschild/rockefeller/war machine/debt machine that has ruined not only this country but is on the verge of ruining the entire planet - is in the end game of destroying both china and russia, the last two major holdouts to central banking
we are now jobless peasants in our own country - which is arguably not our country anymore - and the best is yet to come
the nwo sees the sheeple as cannon fodder and slave labor
nothing more
its long past time for anyone who doesn't accept that rather diminished role to stand up and fight against this tyranny
while we still can
citizens - keep your guns - we are going to need them
I know that warm gun may make you feel safe and in control, but what good is it against 500lb. bombs, tanks, jets and drones? The guns are only to fight fellow citizens with like weaponry.
buff --- 11:35 your correct in all things but please show respect for the victim and not practice the common denigration of Afghanistan with negative terms; it plays into the justification of slaughter.
Finally! Let's talk about terrorism!
End America's paranoia about terrorism and then you can solve Afghanistan and Iraq and a bunch of other problems.
Every country deals with future terrorism but only America declared war against it.
-What is absent from the debate (just as it was absent when the United States escalated the war in Vietnam or when it created the war in Iraq) -
What is absent from the debate is any mention of the laws that cause the madness, or how the DAFT law is so vague and poorly worded that warmongers can sanctify their aggressions with it and drag us all into their hell.
Let's review:
1964: Tonkin Gulf resolution, followed by US escalation.
2001: Public Law 107-40 (aka AUMF, aka DAFT), followed by invasion of Afghanistan.
2003: Public Law 107-243, followed by invasion of Iraq.
I suggest again that we repeal the DAFT law, just as Prohibition was repealed when it failed.
- Or more honestly, acknowledge that there never can be a war against terrorism because terrorism is a tactic -
A war against future terrorism is DAFT. End the war and bring sanity to America's policy toward terror, just as the rest of the world deals with it.