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Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize: OK, He’s A Nice Guy, But …
Is it really appropriate for the Nobel Peace Prize to be given to a man who would rather look forward than backwards when it comes to decisions, taken at the highest levels of the previous administration, to turn America from a country that upheld the universal torture ban into a country that sought to redefine torture so that it could torture “high-value detainees” in a network of secret prisons around the world?
Is it really appropriate for the Nobel Peace Prize to be given to a man who, although he ordered the closure of Guantánamo and recognizes that it “set back the moral authority” that, in his opinion, “is America’s strongest currency in the world,” and also that it “became a symbol that helped al-Qaeda recruit terrorists to its cause,” endorses indefinite detention without charge or trial for some of the 221 prisoners still held in the prison?
Is it really appropriate for the Nobel Peace Prize to be given to a man who, through the Justice Department, is appealing a ruling extending the habeas corpus rights granted by the Supreme Court to the prisoners at Guantánamo to foreign prisoners seized in other countries and “rendered” to the US prison at Bagram airbase — where some of these men have been held for six years — even though the judge ruled that “the detainees themselves as well as the rationale for detention are essentially the same”?
Is it really appropriate to give the Nobel Peace Prize to a man who, although he revoked some of the Bush administration’s vilest executive orders and swore to uphold the universal torture ban, appears to be actively involved in the rendition of prisoners to the US prison at Bagram airbase?
Is it really appropriate for the Nobel Peace Prize to be given to a man who, although professing his admiration for the Geneva Conventions, has chosen to introduce Guantánamo-style reviews for the 600 or so Afghan prisoners held at Bagram, rather than the competent tribunals stipulated in Article 5 of the Geneva Conventions, and who, as a result, appears to be endorsing the Bush administration’s unilateral rewriting of the Conventions?
In conclusion, although I realize that less deserving men have been given the Nobel Peace Prize in previous years — Henry Kissinger, anyone? — and although I reiterate that Barack Obama seems to be a nice guy, and that his election victory last November lifted a cloud of tyranny from the United States, I also have to note another ironic subtext to the award: that it will, sadly, serve only to inflame the rabid wing of the Republican party, which is predisposed to believe a Democratic President is soft on national security issues, and who would only have respect for the Nobel Committee if it introduced a Nobel War Prize and handed it to Dick Cheney.
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Show AllSorry but I have a problem with somebody as late as the 1980's telling us that women working outside the home is detrimental to the family. What year was this guy born??? I was born in '62 and always felt women working was a good thing. Don't bother to answer if you feel differently.
I never said that women shouldn't work. What I'm saying is that Democrats need to be inclusive of all genders, races, religions, etc... I respect people of both genders, all races, and all religions. The issue about women and working was already resolved and now there are economic issues equally affecting both men and women which need to be addressed and Deeds the Democrat is not pushing hard at it. Go back and read my post again and tell me where I said women shouldn't work.
Bob McDonell is against women working. So yes, Bob McDonell is against women, even if people like you want to pretend that he isn't
Whatever Bob Mcdonnell is or isn't, I'd like to know what the hell Creigh Deeds is gonna do about it and what he stands for? Just saying "Republicans are against women" ain't gonna work and it's showing in the polls. Tell me, are you proud that our Democratic candidate for governor, Creigh Deeds, sides with Obama on mountaintop removals which would harm women's health the most? Are you proud that Deeds has no plans to fix traffic congestion woes which is a major health hazard against all workers? Are you proud to have a Democratic candidate for governor refuse to fight for single payer for all Virginians? You can't just go on playing politics with gender. People aren't buying this bullsh**. Of course I care about women's rights to work and earn equal pay as their male counterparts doing the same thing. But like race where I am color blind, I am gender neutral and am proud of it.
Yes, the Nobels have a checkered history at best.
But at least Jimmy Carter demonstrated real courage and risked real political capital in attempting to resolve the fundamental conflict between Israel and the Arab states at Camp David.
That DESERVES an award, regardless of the ultimate success of the effort.
So far, Obama's only earned an empty beer bottle.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Sir.....An empty beer bottle is overpayment.
I believe a shoe has now become traditional.
If there was ever a time when the "Nobel Peace Prize" award has NO VALUE, it is now. Obama is more about war than peace.
I wonder what kind of drugs this Nobel Committee was on when they voted in favor of Obama for this "award."
I can think of many people who DESERVE this award way ahead of American politicians for EMPIRE do.
U.S. Politicians who support American Imperialism, Empire and the lawlessness of human rights do not deserve this award, and Mr. Obama is part and parcel of U.S. Imperial aims and goals. Obama DOES NOT DESERVE this award whatsover. I am not Rush or Hannity saying this either. There are many, many individuals who have been fighting for the cause their entire lives who SHOULD have RECEIVED this Nobel Peace Prize way ahead of President Obama.
This afternoon Obama will be laying out more strategy to BOMB People and yes, innocent people have already dies THANKS to President Obama. Innocent People will continue to DIE on the ORDERS of Obama.
Obama has KEPT the Bush era policies of preemption and has continually THREATENED IRAN with the possible use of nukes on them. The Obama administration continues to construct bunker buster nuclear weapons. One of Mr. Obama's biggest campaign contributors was Exelon--a nuclear industry which pollutes the environment here in the United States. I suggest you all read David Swanson's new book Daybreak and understand that Obama has not rescinded Bush's so-called "antiterror policies."
Kathy Kelly is the Chicago native who most deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
Yes, the Chicagoan who really DESERVED this AWARD is Kathy Kelly. Kathy Kelly's entire life is devoted to peace and she actually goes to war torn countries and literally helps out the people in those countries.
The Nobel Committee must have been hallucinating giving Obama this award. Obama sells more nuclear weapons to India and let's Israel do whatever it wants to the Palestinians. Obama bombs innocents in Pakistan and Afghanistan and takes out entire families. Obama's speech in Cairo was not as well received around the world, including the Middle East region, despite what commentators in America might suggest. Noam Chomsky has been very critical of Mr. Obama's Middle East policy.
Anyone who advocates peace and justice cannot accept that the war mongering President Obama led by his team of war-like advisers, including Hillary Clinton, Dennis Ross and Richard Holbrooke could ever win this thing.
From Noam Chomsky to the Berrigan Brothers to Tariq Ali to Kathy Kelly to Arundhati Roy, there are plenty of people whom DESERVE THIS AWARD LONG BEFORE the WAR-MONGERING President Barack H. Obama!!!!
In Paul Craig Roberts fine article at Counterpunch.org, entitled: "Warmonger Wins Peace Prize: Upside Down World," he writes that:
"...The Nobel Committee has awarded the 2009 Peace Prize to President Obama, the person who started a new war in Pakistan, upped the war in Afghanistan, and continues to threaten Iran with attack unless Iran does what the US government demands and relinquishes its rights as a signatory to the non-proliferation treaty. The Nobel committee chairman, Thorbjoern Jagland said, “Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future.” Obama, the committee gushed, has created “a new climate in international politics.”....Tell that to the 2 million displaced Pakistanis and the unknown numbers of dead ones that Obama has racked up in his few months in office. Tell that to the Afghans where civilian deaths continue to mount as Obama’s “war of necessity” drones on indeterminably....No Bush policy has changed. Iraq is still occupied. The Guantanamo torture prison is still functioning. Rendition and assassinations are still occurring. Spying on Americans without warrants is still the order of the day. Civil liberties are continuing to be violated in the name of Oceania’s “war on terror.”...Obama has done nothing to hold the criminal Bush regime to account, and the Obama administration has bribed and threatened the Palestinian Authority to go along with the US/Israeli plan to deep-six the UN’s Goldstone Report on Israeli war crimes committed during Israel’s inhuman military attack on the defenseless civilian population in the Gaza Ghetto....The US Ministry of Truth is delivering the Obama administration’s propaganda that Iran only notified the IAEA of its “secret” new nuclear facility because Iran discovered that US intelligence had discovered the “secret” facility. This propaganda is designed to undercut the fact of Iran’s compliance with the Safeguards Agreement and to continue the momentum for a military attack on Iran...."
Read the entire article @: http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts10092009.html
Yes, actionjackson, I am familiar with Kathy Kelly's work and she is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize or certainly recognition for her tireless work helping to alleviate suffering.
I live in Chicago so I am familiar with the people you have mentioned.
Also, in allegiance with Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks, I would like to say I am ashamed Obama is from Chicago.
(For those who don't recall, Natalie announced at a concert in England, that she was ashamed Bush was from Texas).
It's encouraging to see that you and others are angry. As Al Franken has said in reference to the state of our country, he is angry, and it's okay to be angry, we SHOULD be angry.
AJ62, obviously that "Hopey Changy Thang",aint workin' for us the way it is for the Nobel Commitee.I think Kathy Kelly would be great for the prize,good list of deserving recipients. peace
Exactly. They only have respect for a white man, and for that I'm not really so sure. I am a white woman, so I really think I know whereof I say.
I'm sure you are joking. His color is irrelevant.
Amen.
This Nobel guild -- I'm at a loss for a postable noun -- has wandered into farce before; this goes beyond.
I am at a loss to imagine anyone in the world doing more to thwart peace in 2009 than Mr. 0bama. I am at a loss to imagine whose power might be of more benefit to the committee.
What is it lies inside such hearts and souls? The committee has made the single most hypocritical choice it could have made out of several billion available possibilities.
Who can now accept a Nobel prize without shame?
Hey, why not just nominate Joe the Plumber by the same standards? He didn't start any wars.
Jason Jordan
Sandpoint, Idaho
Joe the Plumber? He can be governor of your state but I wouldn't want him in the White House. Obama and Dubya are bad enough.
where were u guys when Dubya was supposedly elected twice????
Go listen to the idiot Rachel Maddow salivate all over President Obama on her awful MSNBC program. Man, has Maddow descended into a pathetic individual. Ms. Maddow is a disgrace to all Rhodes Scholars, but, then again Cecil Rhodes was an imperialist of the worst kind.
Yes, Rachel Maddow is salivating on behalf of Obama right now in supporting his dubious award, while, comparing past winners as to their viability in winning their Nobel Peace Prizes.
Rachel Maddow is disgusting and she even quoted neoconservative Charles Krauthammer saying people who would criticize Obama suffer from "Obama derangment syndrome."
Rachel Maddow is not only a corporate whore for GE/MSNBC but also an Obama shill and Obama slut.
Listen to Rachel Maddow all night and day as she gets wet over Obama. It is pretty sad that Ms. Maddow is a so-called "Rhodes Scholar" yet chooses to be a corporate whore and an Obama slut when it comes to honest analysis of this war mongering President Obama!
President Obama DOES NOT DESERVE THIS AWARD!!!!
America continues to BOMB INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!
The world still does not look kindly on the American Empire!!!!
Enough on Rachel, already. It's obvious you're hot for her. "Salivate"???
Pulling out my supposed hair.
Today's headlines :"N.A.S.A fires Missiles at Lunar South Pole in search of Hydrocarbons and Hydrogen". "U.S. President Obama awarded Nobel Peace Prize" strange days indeed,is there anywhere we won't bomb looking for energy.Funny coincidence.Scoping out to left to right "News Blogs" they all seem like the "Onion" or "Mad" or "National Lampoon".I was expecting "Lunar Insurgents Threaten Tidal Disruptions in response to U.S. Rocket Attack!" " Man in Moon Says "No Cheese". peace on Earth and our Satellites
The justice system is FUBAR that I'm not surprised the idiots issuing the prize couldn't get this one right.
OK, He’s A Nice Guy...
Isn't that MUCH BETTER than being an ahole as president of the USA?
I very like manager of Obama.
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Sure is nice to see the nice guy win the Ignobel Peace Prize as I would have hated for people that are not so nice and war mongers, like Cindy Sheenan, Kathy Kelley ect. win it, as I am sure they would use the Ignobel peace prize $$$ just to kill more innocent people.
A-F'ING-MEN!!!!!!!!
There isn't any way to peace...Peace IS the WAY!
I have to agree with Sue1403 ... I guess Andy Worthington just didn't want to be mean, or maybe he didn't want to be lumped in with the people some Democrats like to collectively call "teabaggers" (anybody who disagrees with them on anything). But Obama nice? Is it nice to give speeches about global cooperation while you've got your underlings bombing villages of people whose only crime was to be born in the wrong country? Is indefinite detention without trial somehow an indication that "tyranny has been lifted" off America?
Mr. Worthington,
Hundreds of murders and many cases of torture have taken place at Mr. 0bama's deliberate command. He has extended Cheney's fraud in deliberately and calculatedly misrepresenting Afghanistan as a security threat. He has done so to knowingly commit actions that cause the murders of Americans and of the residents of the countries his forces illegally occupy. To all indications, he has done all this for his own personal gain, to satisfy large funders and thereby further centralize power.
These are capital crimes in the United States and crimes against humanity under the Geneva Convention.
In what sense do you call this man a "nice guy"? I have read that Hitler liked birds and dogs. I suppose he felt some kind of fondness for Eva Braun. Sometimes he smiled at children.
Would Hitler not qualify on the same basis as Barack 0bama?
I am willing to entertain the notion that Barack 0bama, Dick Cheney, Charles Manson and Jeffrey Daumer are or were all in some similar sense "nice guys." But before I were to make such a statement in a public forum, I would want to qualify it properly. Someone might read your title and imagine that you do not recognize 0bama as a capital criminal or malicious murderer.
Such a statement is particularly dangerous in the case of President 0bama because an extremely effective propaganda campaign has painted him as "centrist," "moderate," "liberal," "progressive," and other things that are straightforwardly false in the common senses of any of those terms.
Someone might take you seriously.
Accordingly, you run the risk of painting the actions of the Nobel Committee as simply another act of administrative fuzzy-headedness or as garden-variety institutional hypocrisy, when the Nobel Committee has acted aggressively to obscure the truth and is morally if not legally complicit in fraud and murder.
The evidence you present in this article would seem adequate to draw these conclusions. Why not be consistent?