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Afghan War Could Cost Obama Key Supporters
Ignoring the overwhelming Democratic-voter opposition to the Afghanistan war threatens to cost Barack Obama the support of young people and anti-war voters who helped make him president. It could destroy any possibility of achieving his robust domestic agenda as well. President Obama needs an exit strategy instead of an escalation strategy.
Consider these amazing numbers from a Washington Post-ABC News Poll taken in August: A majority of all voters say the war is not worth its costs, and 70 percent of Democrats are opposed to the war. Support has dropped overall by 10 points since March, and 20 percent among self-described liberals. According to the Washington Post, "opposition to the Iraq war reached similar levels in the summer of 2004 and grew further through the 2006 midterm elections, becoming issue No. 1 in many congressional races that year."
The mass anti-war movement, which put more than 100,000 Americans on the streets at least 10 times between 2003 and 2007, has not been visible lately, but its return in some form is predictable as the issue of Afghanistan heats up. In the meantime, public opinion has shifted sharply on its own, perhaps because Americans are preoccupied with job loss and the recession, and harbor sour memories of the Iraq debacle. Obama now has a window of opportunity to change course.
Two premises of the war already are proving false: the first was the need to provide a secure and effective government in Afghanistan. Today, there is no sign of a viable client government in Kabul after eight years of war. Instead, the current regime of warlords and drug lords is being rendered illegitimate in the eyes of the Afghan people and the wider international community. Obama could blame the corrupt regime of Hamid Karzai and turn to the face-saving, all-party-talks model applied in Northern Ireland and the Balkans. Otherwise, the quagmire will deepen.
The second was to dismantle a safe haven for al Qaeda in Afghanistan from which to launch future Sept. 11-style terrorist attacks. The evidence, however, suggests that al Qaeda has relocated to Pakistan. No one is talking about U.S. forces invading Pakistan - at least not yet. And al Qaeda attacks were launched from Yemen and Germany, but there's no plan to go after al Qaeda in those nations.
At the same time, the U.S. occupation in Afghanistan only increases the Muslim hatred that transforms itself into terrorist activities.
It is not likely that Obama will seize on these new realities to change direction. This leaves Obama stuck in his quagmire abroad while his support at home is sliding away.
At the current casualty rate, more than 1,000 more Americans will be killed fighting in Afghanistan by 2011 as Obama enters his re-election year. (On the watch of George W. Bush, 700 Americans died in Afghanistan.) The number of wounded Americans will be triple that. Civilian casualties will be in the tens of thousands. Just as President Lyndon B. Johnson's escalation of the war in Vietnam destroyed his promise of "guns and butter," so Obama's war will undercut funding for his promised domestic initiatives: There's only enough money for one or the other. With nearly three-quarters of the Democrats in their districts opposed to the war, members of Congress will be hard-pressed to keep funding an unwinnable war with tax dollars taken from domestic spending.
In advance of the 2006 and 2008 federal primary elections, the grassroots peace movement organized to become the tipping point between winning and losing in close national races. We saw the results at the polls.
If the Obama administration's policies in Afghanistan continue to undermine the morale of those voters, it's difficult to see how the Democrats will retain control of government. I am a passionate Obama supporter, but, like many others, I cannot abandon my views in order to blindly support the president.
Some, like Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution, claim there is "zero" chance that the Democrats will break with Obama over the war this coming year. I disagree.
Democrats will have to heed their anti-war constituencies rather than giving cover for the misguided military mission. A few months ago, Speaker Nancy Pelosi was reluctant to support hearings or a vote on an exit strategy resolution authored by Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., in deference to the White House. Now she is warning that House votes for the escalation might not be there. California state party Chairman John Burton, an old warhorse of the peace movement, goes further. In response to the party's 700-member progressive caucus, Burton recently attacked the war and supported McGovern's measure in an e-mail to 100,000 California Democrats.
Ironically, Obama's strongest base of support on a policy of escalation is becoming hard-core Republicans - those who will do anything to defeat him in the years ahead. The most difficult task in statecraft is to know when to hold them and when to fold them. The peace movement can help Obama extract himself and our nation from an untenable position. Otherwise, we will see the best hopes of his presidency - and our hopes, too - vanish in a long war.
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Show AllVote Republican--because that's what you are going to get anyway.
Poet
Poet writes:
"Vote Republican -- because that's what you are going to get anyway."
Maybe it'll be a mixed blessing, the anti-war movement re-emerging as a result.
The anti-war movement (e.g. UFPJ) became moribund because the leadership of that organization decided not to challenge Obomba on his pro-war agenda. To those who weren't paying attention during the campaign: Obomba is not and never was a "peace candidate". He was quite clear in his platform that he was going to escalate the war in Afganistan. Also, work by Jeremy Scahill pointed out that Obomba's "withdrawal" plan from Iraq would leave in country 20-60,000 troops. This is exactly what he is doing. Yet, unbelievably, many people voted for him on the belief that he was somehow a peace candidate. I think if Obomba voters really examined their motivations they would come to conclusion that their primary motivation was to keep the odious McCain out of office. This comes down the age old "lesser evilism" strategy on which the Democratic Party has been sucking up radical and progressive energy for decades.
It really aggravates me that writers like Hayden and Lindorff rallied behind the Obomba "hope" propaganda, and then when Obomba predictably pushes the agenda of the real powers which put him in office (i.e. the ruling class), they are baffled and disappointed that he is "selling out" Obomba's "progressive" and "liberal" constituents. The problem is, of course, that Obomba is, in fact, being true to the people whose interests he truly represents. The progressive and liberals in the United States, have, yet again, be played for saps and fools. How many times are they going to fall for this? Time to give up on the Democratic Party, vote Socialist.
I agree.
Consider Robert Greenwald's (not to be confused with Glen Greenwald) statement regarding his recent documentary on Afghanistan:
"Mr. Greenwald, who has produced documentaries about Wal-Mart and war profiteers, said the film represented a “less incendiary” approach influenced by liberal concerns that he not attack Mr. Obama directly.
“We lost funding from liberals who didn’t want to criticize Obama,” he said. “It’s been lonely out there.” "
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/08/30-4
"A few months ago, Speaker Nancy Pelosi was reluctant to support hearings or a vote on an exit strategy resolution authored by Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., in deference to the White House. Now she is warning that House votes for the escalation might not be there."
Pelosi is preparing to shake down the defense industries in the same way that she has coaxed contributions from the healthcare insurance and pharmaceutical industries.
q
Pelosi is a disgrace to her office, to this Congress and to our country. She represents only her own selfish interests.
That she continues to be elected explains my revulsion of all extermist elements.
O'bama was warned from the start by that wise old sage George McGovern--did he listen? Of course not, this little chicken-hawk don't know jack about war--so he then made "it" a war of necessity--right. Our own country's needs are a necessity--You democrats better wake up to the reality of who's agenda this guy is carrying out. And if you are interested in knowing what's really going on in Afghanistan--check out Norm Soloman's interview on C-span today--If anyone personally knows O'bama make sure he sees it. It will give him a glimpse of his future as his supporters are slowly waking up and realizing he is taking us on a fool's journey into oblivion. See you all in DC in three weeks time. If you can't go but are planning to strike in support of this cause, start storing up provisions for that week--and pray that God or whatever you believe in will help us end this evilness.
So, is Mr. Hayden suggesting that if there was a secure and stable government of Afghanistan, the invasion and occupation of this country would have been justified???
Call it what it is Mr. Hayden, naked Imperialistic agression....
To Tom Hayden...."It's the economy stupid"
How hard is it to understand that jobs and the economy far outweigh anything else.
The country is indeed splitting from Obama, but the Afgan war is down the list, even for Progressives.
tom: what about the "real" reasons we are in afghanistan and iraq and the mid-east in general
its about the oil and gas - now more important in a world of peak oil - and its about making sure that neither the chinese nor the russians get it as well
while afghanistan does not have either of those commodities they are going to host the pipelines to take the oil an gas fromthe caspian basin to the indian ocean
this takes precedence over the wishes of the sheeeple, as indeed do all other imperial aims and objctives - not much obama can do about that
let's not forget the heroin trade - or as its known in afghanistan - the karzai family business...
as far as democracy in afghanistan - i read last week that of the 50 thousand eligible voters in karzai's distict he received an overwhelming 350 thousand votes while th other candidates shared 5 votes between them
almost as good as the deibold machines we use here at home...
Exactly right, lebeau. If U.S. leaves Pipelinistan, China and Russia will control Caspian natural gas. So they have to stay, no matter how messy.
http://freepublictransit.org
I love it when you are correct. But he is right. Its going to cost Obama.
"It's been many years since Tom Hayden had anything interesting to say. He's become to "left" politics what Dick Clark is to New Year's Eve."
Agreed. Nice one.
Sioux Rose
PUDEPOH: Thanks for giving me a laugh tonight! Good one. (Sometimes I wonder if Dick Clark was Dorian Gray in a past life.)
RichM gets the credit, not me.
October 5 marks 8 years of war and occupation in Afghanistan. Obama is continuing the illegal and immoral wars of the Bush Administration.
Join us at the White House as we take action in nonviolent civil resistance, risking arrest as we call on Obama to end the wars and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq, end the bombing in Pakistan, and end the torture of Bagram, Guantanamo and other places around the globe.
It is time for people of conscience to take action. Go to http://www.nogoodwar.org for more information and to sign up for the action. There are going to be over 100 people risking arrest in DC on Oct. 5.
Any article of this kind that does not contain the words "natural gas" or "pipeline" is propaganda to confuse you.
http://freepublictransit.org
"Obama now has a window of opportunity to change course."
You have got to be kidding. President Obama would sooner chop off his hands than stop the wars.
As for support from those who supported him in the election, he lost that months ago.
And you know what? He could care less. When you live in a country where the head of the Federal Reserve invites the head of the central bank of a teeny, tiny country to speak at Jackson Hole and that foreigner was also the professor at MIT that was the thesis mentor for Bernake, you begin to understant what the word "influence" means. I won't say the name of that teeny tiny country because I may be accused of begin anti-something. Whatever. The point is that President Obama has all the support he needs.
Liechtenstein?
· Yr Obd't Servant
This author is a "passionate supporter of Obama" but cannot abandon his views in order to blindly support the president?
Come again? He passionately supports someone he can't support? So what's the source of all the passion?
Maybe it's Obama's "robust domestic agenda" that tethers Hayden to Obama. Is Hayden saying that Obama is ignorant? He doesn't know there will be no robust domestic agenda but rather a continuation of Bush's robust wars of empire, precluding any hopes of making life better for Americans (let alone those in Afghanistan/Pakistan, Palestine).
Why doesn't Obama hire the same corporate ad agency that ran his campaign. They were brilliant. Remember the canpaing? We are to believe somehow Obama has lost the ability to sell himself?
Earth to Tom Hayden:
Empires don't vet and hire politicians with robust domestic agendas that nurture democracy and ordinary people. Just the opposite. They hire politicians to move the empire forward. Obama is doing just that: fakin' left, goin' right, dividing progressives, fomenting a political climate which will, at this rate, be sure to get Republicans hired in 2012 .... and so it goes, the empire prevails.
Forget about him, Tom. He's doin' us wrong.
Pattern recognition, anyone?
"Ignoring the overwhelming Democratic-voter opposition to the Afghanistan war threatens to cost Barack Obama the support of young people and anti-war voters"
- Ignoring the green jobs issue costs 0 _________?
- Ignoring housing while bailing speculators costs 0 __________?
- Ignoring green anything costs 0 _________?
- Ignoring torture costs 0 _________?
- Ignoring coup d' etat costs 0 ___________?
- Ignoring habeas corpus costs 0 __________?
- Ignoring wiretapping costs 0 __________?
- Ignoring Single Payer costs 0 ___________?
- Ignoring realistic public option costs 0 __________?
And let's give at least an honorable mention to those bases in Columbia supposedly there to nip the CIA's competition in the cocaine trade.
Oh, I have gotten tired and probably tiresome. You name the policy. This list could go on and on and on.
0 has abandoned and betrayed not only the left but the center.
Election reform and 3rd parties, 2010 and 2012!
bard:
- Ignoring the green jobs issue costs 0 _________?
- Ignoring housing while bailing speculators costs 0 __________?
- Ignoring green anything costs 0 _________?
- Ignoring torture costs 0 _________?
- Ignoring coup d' etat costs 0 ___________?
- Ignoring habeas corpus costs 0 __________?
- Ignoring wiretapping costs 0 __________?
- Ignoring Single Payer costs 0 ___________?
- Ignoring realistic public option costs 0 __________?
selling out the sheeple to the nwo______priceless
Sioux Rose
BARDAMU: When you alluded to pattern recognition I thought you were going to use that analogy to suggest that it's a recycling of the same 5-7 reasons why we "went to war with Iraq." Now it seems to me the leaders could not stick to any one reason because using them all in a kaleidescopic fashion (nothing singular or specific pinned down) meant the whole no doubt high paid strategic campaign and its various and sundry PR originators could find their rationales utilized all over again! Bringing freedom! Fighting "them" over there, so we don't have to fight them over here." ETC. I hope 3 won't prove a charm (Iran).
The streets will be filled, one again, with peace advocates organized to bring an end to the wars and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.
There will be a rally in Austin, Texas on Oct 17 (3-6pm) at City Hall, and I have been getting posts of other rallies and events throughout the country.
Charlie Jackson
Texans for Peace
http://www.texansforpeace.org
Obama now has a window of opportunity to change course.
Do you think Barack Obama is any less of a closet throat sticker than George Wanker Bush? Do you not think he has fantasies of sneaking up behind a "Taliban", quickly getting his elbow around his throat and sticking a butcher knife in his back? Do you not think he is dazzled by visions of Glory? All of this is true of Obama, as it was for Bush and Cheney.
"Otherwise, we will see the best hopes of his presidency - and our hopes, too - vanish in a long war." –(Tom Hayden)
Tom Hayden has finally crossed the threshold into terminal journalistic irrelevance, If not craven, sycophantic idiocy. This wretched, obsequious article is chock full of passages that make one gag–not with intellectual disbelief–but with an almost vomitous dyspepsia, approaching out right nausea. Hayden scandalously seems to think the cautionary warnings he issues about Obama's 'direction' are things that 'may' happen in the future, rather than things that have long since transpired. That verdict was in a long time ago; only the most ignorantly obtuse continue to withhold judgement.
"...the best hopes of his presidency?" and "...our hopes?"
What kind of sentimental bull shit is this? It is a testament to the acuity of the "Common Dream" readers and many of the commentators up thread, that such jejune nonsense is treated with the disrespect it so dearly merits. If the article serves one purpose, it is that Tom Hayden's byline in future articles, is to be avoided with extreme prejudice.
Pieces this toxic have a way of haunting and discrediting any opinions he may proffer in the future about almost anything. Conveniently though, this bilious palaver, lets us all who would value his opinions, know where he stands about the Obama catastrophe. He can't call it for what it is–even after all the horses have left the barn, and the roosting chickens have laid all their eggs.–(Jill Bains)
To Tom Hayden ...
How very kind you are to BrandObama, with your "passionate support" and all. How do you manage to have passion for someone who slaughters innocents - slaughters anyone for that matter. Have you read the September 14th article in the Guardian describing the latest massacre in Afghanistan, where the father of one of the slain says:
"They gave me a piece of flesh and I call it my son."
I wonder, would your love for BrandObama be so deep if it were your own children being charred like pieces of wood?
As an anti-war piece, this article of yours stinks.
Nothing's changed, Tom Hayden. Obama talked during the Presidential campaign about bombing Afghanistan and Pakistan. You stumped for him, and Obama bombed. It's the only campaign promise he's kept.
The lesson of Campaign 2008 was that Dem leaders could ignore progressives and the antiwar movement. People are still so frightened of the Repugs that they will vote for the lying corporatist Democrats, who just carry out the same policies as the Repugs. I suspect that dynamic hasn't changed and it won't change by 2010 and 2012.
I wouldn't consider this recent babble by Dems about Afghanistan to be serious. They'll continue to fund the wars while pretending to be concerned about it. We've seen that time and again. Dem leaders could cut off the war funds if they really were listening to the people. As Hayden's essay proves, he's just concerned about the next elections, not people getting blown to bits. It's been a long time since the sixties, eh Tom?
-TIA
Quote: "Ignoring the overwhelming Democratic-voter opposition to the Afghanistan war threatens to cost Barack Obama the support of young people and anti-war voters who helped make him president. It could destroy any possibility of achieving his robust domestic agenda as well. President Obama needs an exit strategy instead of an escalation strategy". OBAMA KNOWS these things, so the question is why does he persist as he does; and the answer is [dark].
Tom Hayden!
Just read the majority of comments on this thread to know that your position/politics are timid and irrelevant at this point. Get some backbone. The earth is being destroyed, not to mention millions of more lives since Vietnam due to American empire and capitalism. When are you going to learn not to be a sucker to corporatist electoral politics? Obama is a servant to capital. Period.
Wasn't it Abbie Hoffman who described you as the first out the back door when the cops showed up to cause trouble back in the 60s?
No wonder....
agit: the sheeple here don't like to be reminded of the status as peasants - they get uppity and their feelings get hurt
they feel kowtowing to the rich aint that bad - once you get used to it
they are happy with their crumbs and believe that its all going to work out
lots of 'em anyway
they are thrilled when called by ceo's
i mean thrilled