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Remembering the Real Deal
The light has gone out, and with it that infectious warm laugh and intensely progressive commitment of the best of the Kennedys. Not, at this point, to take anything away from the memory of his siblings—Bobby, whom I also got to know, was pretty terrific in his last years—but Senator Ted Kennedy was the real deal.
Unable to move with his brothers’ intellectual alacrity, sometimes plodding in impromptu expression but smooth and skillful while reading from a script, the youngest Kennedy made up for his shortcomings early in his Senate career by resolutely working the substance of issues. His principled determination, plus his capacity to truly care about the real-world outcomes of legislation for ordinary people rather than its impact on his or anyone else’s election, became his signature qualities as a lawmaker. But for those same reasons, he also wanted legislation passed, and his ability to work with the opposition, as he did three years ago with John McCain on immigration reform, now grants him a legacy as one of the nation’s great senators.
Oddly enough, for one born into such immense familial expectations, he was a surprisingly accessible and down-to-earth politician in the eyes of most journalists who covered him. I think of him as always authentic and never oily. As opposed to most politicians, the offstage Ted Kennedy was the more appealing one.
Although he excelled as an orator, never more so than delivering the speech that Bob Shrum crafted for him at the 1980 Democratic Convention but which was informed by Kennedy’s own deeply felt passion, it was in his less choreographed moments that he was at his best. I spent quite a few hours over the years interviewing him on subjects ranging from health care to nuclear arms control, mostly as a reporter for the Los Angeles Times, and while his grammar could be troubling, his sentiments never were.
Not once in those interviews did I find Kennedy to equivocate or slide into the amoral triangulation that defines almost all successful politicians. They position themselves, but he took positions, and as in the case of health care reform, he would end his life fighting for those causes with his last breath.
I would put Kennedy alongside my other hero, George McGovern, as the two most trusted standard-bearers of the Democratic Party’s too-often-sabotaged liberalism. I just could never imagine either of them ever selling us out. Indeed, I haven’t felt quite so sad about the passing of a political leader since the day when people started bawling all over the Bronx with the news that FDR had died. In a political world dominated by bipartisan cynicism, there are few touchstones of integrity for the common folk, and Kennedy was one of them.
Lest I be accused of surrendering to the emotions of the moment, let me quote from a column I wrote in January of 2008 when the Democratic presidential primary battle hung in the balance:
“It should mean a great deal to progressives that in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination Sen. Ted Kennedy favors Sen. Barack Obama over two other colleagues he has worked with in the Senate. No one in the history of that institution has been a more consistent and effective fighter than Kennedy for an enlightened agenda, be it civil rights and liberty, gender equality, labor and immigrant justice, environmental protection, educational opportunity or opposing military adventures.
“Kennedy was a rare sane voice among the Democrats in strongly opposing the Iraq war, and it is no small tribute when he states: `We know the record of Barack Obama. There is the courage he showed when so many others were silent or simply went along. From the beginning, he opposed the war in Iraq. And let no one deny that truth.’”
Hopefully, it will be added to Ted Kennedy’s legacy that he was right about Obama, just as he was consistently right on every major issue that he dealt with as a senator. Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama was critical to our current president’s historic nomination and election, and it is therefore fitting that the favor of that all-important endorsement be returned with a significant reform of the ailing U.S. health care system.
In the first year of the George W. Bush presidency, I wrote a column for the Los Angeles Times entitled “Bush Could Really Use a Fireside Chat with FDR,” stating, “This is a president who never learned that it is possible to be a leader born of privilege and yet be absorbed with the fate of those in need. … Not so Roosevelt, a true aristocrat whose genuine love of the common man united this country to save it during its most severe time of economic turmoil and devastating war.” Kennedy wrote me a note thanking me for the column and adding, “I can think of at least fifty on the Senate side of Capitol Hill that could benefit from a good fireside chat as well.”
That’s also a worthy epitaph for Ted Kennedy: Born of privilege, and yet absorbed with the fate of those in need.
45 Comments so far
Show AllMore Camelot! Is nobody willing to tell the truth?
Re Mairead August 26th, 2009 9:11 am
Imagine a retelling of Mario Puzo's "The Godfather," in which Sonny and Michael both die young, leaving Fredo to run the family business.
That's probably as close to the truth as you and I will ever get.
The assassinations of JFK and RFK were warnings to future presidents and candidates – real liberals can only be allowed to run when they will split the Democratic Party – as Ted Kennedy did when he ran against Jimmy Carter, ultimately to the benefit of Ronald Reagan.
Read "JFK and the Unspeakable". John Kennedy was murdered because a small group inside the government thought he was actually going to make a radical move toward making the world a slightly safer place. What John Kennedy would actually have done is anyone's guess. His assassination is real. Assassinations now are largely carried out by the MSM who will either ignore a candidate completely or so distort his/her record as to make the person appear to be a lunatic. Ordinary people read this shit and believe it. After all, they'd never lie to us, would they?
Indeed, now THERES your real "Nader": Ted Kennedy. He truly started the republican juggernaut back in '80. He was the root of it all.
He left Mary Jo to drown just like he left progressives to drown in 1080 by splitting the party. That was Ted Kennedy's legacy. Now the progressive movement is dead.
Hillary will do the same in 2012 against Obama, then meet Sarah--and will lose.
Just my take, mind you. I could be wrong.
"Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama was critical to our current president’s historic nomination and election, and it is therefore fitting that the favor of that all-important endorsement be returned with a significant reform of the ailing U.S. health care system."
Am I a prophet or what? In the last few minutes I've posted a response to another Kennedy eulogy---by Jack Newfield---suggesting that as soon as the mourning tears dry, people will start pushing passage of the "significant reform" supposedly represented by the Comprehensive Health Care Law. Mr. Scheer's tears apparently dry pretty fast, as he has beaten to the draw most of the other pundits and politicos who will try to "memorialize" Kennedy with the passage of a piece of crap legislation.
Ted Kennedy was irrelevant ever since Reagan won in 1980. The Democrats cast him to the curb. Just ask my parents who loved the Kennedys to death. They were Democrats turned Republican starting with Reagan but they still admired Ted Kennedy for being a unique liberal. I think that Ted Kennedy eventually gave up after feeling politically left out that he threw in the towel and endorsed Obama. But Obama sounded more different during the primaries and I didn't want Hillary so I can understand TK. I voted for Obama in the primaries too. After the primaries, Obama screwed up and I gave up and voted Nader in disgust and left the Democratic Party for the first time. Obama has already bashed the fighting liberals of the 1960s and 1970s while lionizing Reagan. President Obama is no Kennedy.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
And Ben Bernake is back in the saddle to do even more damage! Change we can believe in--pfttttt.
Passage of a strong health care bill with at least a public option will pay tribute to Ted Kennedy.
shach: Did you ever happen to visit the site of the City of Dallas "memorial" to Kennedy's brother, JFK, a block from Dealey Plaza? Hardly anyone goes there and for good reason. As a "memorial" it's an insult: some nondescript marble slabs arranged around a cobbled ground (as I remember it). While it's true that "a strong health care bill with at least a public option" might be a fitting tribute to Edward K., there's every indication that a very WEAK health care bill, weakened by the very "health care forums" that Kennedy held with the industry fat cats, will emerge as the "comprehensive" legislation with a very impotent public option (if any) that Congress and the people are offered as a "tribute" to Kennedy. About as insulting a tribute, I should say, as that misbegotten JFK tribute in Dallas.
Maybe it will be embarassing enough to give Barack Obama some spine and principle he has lacked--but I am not holding my breath. Teddy at the end of the day was a politician as well as an ideologue and towards the end of his life more of the former than the latter.
Poet
"Some good things", Rich? What would they be? I can't think of anything, but you're younger than me and probably have a less-degraded memory.
hmmm...I was sure your standards were higher, Rich. Much higher. Did something happen?
The things you describe are what any minimally ethical officeholder should have done, aren't they?
Our alleged reps are wonderfully well-paid, powerful sinecuristes. Could it be that part of the reason they treat us like crap is that we treat them as tho they were cognitively disabled and in need of praise to keep them going? What if we were to take a demanding "what have you done for me lately?" stance instead?
'To say Ted K was "a bit better than most Democrats" is not exactly a fervently enthusiastic assessment'
No, you're right, it's not.
But aren't we looking at it the wrong way? Instead of accepting a standard so low that minimally ethical behavior deserves praise however tepid, why aren't we setting a standard that *requires* minimally ethical behavior, anything less being the occasion for lawsuit/criminal charges?
An example I used in another response: I drove 20 miles safely to run an errand, and paid for the groceries I later fetched home by bicycle. And I did those things for free--nobody was paying me to do them. But nobody would think of praising me for driving safely or paying for the groceries, even though driving required me to navigate some "knitted" road layouts, and the grocery trip required me to pedal uphill for a half-mile or more on a main road in 85F heat.
Mairead, you ignorant slut. Here is a partial list of pieces of legislation that Ted Kennedy played a major role in getting passed:
The vote for eighteen-year-olds, Meals on Wheels for the elderly, COBRA health insurance continuation, SCHIP for children, Family Medical Leave, sanctions against the apartheid government of South Africa, an end to arms sales to Chile under Pinochet, the post-Watergate campaign finance reforms, several increases in the minimum wage, every piece of civil rights legislation from the Voting Rights Act to the Americans with Disabilities Act. He also played an important part in preventing the Supreme Court confirmation of Robert Bork, and did more than any other member of Congress to try to stop the Iraq war.
You're being a little indiscriminate in what you're giving him credit for, aren't you?
I had to run an errand yesterday that required me to drive 20 miles. As always, I drove safely. Then I cycled to the grocery to do my shopping. As always, I paid for everything. Do I deserve praise for my acts? They were somewhat difficult: there are several "knitted" intersections I had to navigate safely, and my grocery trip required me to pedal uphill for a half-mile or more on a main road in 85F heat. If I don't deserve praise, why not?
The difference, you omadhaun, is that every one of those achievements of Kennedy's listed in my post made life better for hundreds of thousands of people, whereas you, I would bet heavily, have never done anything that in any way benefited another living soul. In fact, you would have done better if you had navigated a bit less carefully yesterday, and slammed into a tree putting an end to your miserable life and your idiotic posts on CommonDreams. That you would have deserved praise for.
I'll try to not hold the Obama endorsement against the great Senator from Massachusetts. RIP, Ted.
Lets stop the nonsense that this is a two party system. This is a plutocracy! These people are about privilege the common man be damned, and usually is!!!
Worry not, progressives, soon enough we boomers will shuffle off this mortal coil and you will no longer have to struggle against our mythologizing, our navel gazing and self-involved natures, our love affair with the troublsome, imperfect Kennedy clan.
But we who grew up under the influence of those shining smiles, towering intellects, deep disappointments, and flawed characters lived through a time of dreams and nightmares that molded us, informed our vision, and made possible the left as we knew it...warts and all.
Allow us our last moment of ridiculous belief as we wax nostalgic for a world we tried to create, our last kumbyah.
Yep, y'all are right. The Kennedy's were not the pillars of progressive thought we have always held them up to be. Obama is not the torch bearer we elected him to be, and we knew it ahead of time, and voted for him anyway, in no small measure because of our bloated respect for them.
However, they were who we had, and they made us believe we could do what we thought no one else could do.
We may have been wrong, but it was for what seemed to be all the right reasons.
Your time will come to make your own mistakes.
The work, the cause, the hope, the dream.
Take them and run with them. Good luck to you all. But remember to thank a Kennedy and a baby-boomer along the way.
"Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are."
Two things:
1. You left out the bit where you were the first generation to be put in the thrall of the television. The effects of that device go very far in explaining why your generation failed to significantly or lastingly change this country for the better despite the true horrors of the War and the Cold War and your tremendous -and historically unique- demographic advantage. Pretty damned sad and pathetic, when you think about it.
2. "Your time will come to make your own mistakes."
But that's just the problem! Our time HAS come, but you frigging people won't get out of the damned way! I'm 30 years old with a child on the way, I'm ALREADY too old and too weighed down with responsibilities to have participated in your Youth Movement -and I haven't even had the chance to have one of my own! Popular Culture -and therefore politics and economics- has been dominated by your generation for my entire life, and now that you are aging and nearing death, the only thing that matters is "health care reform". Just like "Social Security reform" was the only thing that mattered as the bulk of your generation hit retirement. THERE ARE TWO IMPERIALIST WARS STILL BEING WAGED by the U.S. Government, and all we can talk about is a "healthcare reform" bill that was a stillborn monstrosity from the moment the Insurance Corporations touched it!
The sick thing is this that really isn't even a reflection of the relative sizes of our respective generations, since mine is the larger one. (Please, nobody argue with this assertion, I know we've been trained to not see it, but the Boomers had more than two children on average, which makes their children's generation larger than them) It's just that mine is more chronologically spread out, and therefore impossible to approach as a single "target market" by the Corporatist Marketer's and Advertisers.
TV raised you.
TV gave you your power.
TV corrupted you.
TV turned you into Consumers.
And now, TV eulogizes one of your "lights", as if he was a kind of lesser angel sent from heaven.
And you all eat it up with a spoon.
Ugh.
Sorry to be so mean, but I am just so friggin' tired of all this bullshit.
-matti.
Hey Matti--I feel your pain--it's good to know that there are people like you out there--keep on keeping on--your day is upon us.
Re matti August 26th, 2009 2:54 pm
The fight for single-payer has been going on in the US since Teddy Roosevelt's presidency. We boomers didn't think this up yesterday just to inconvenience you.
Right On, Matti ...
Despite having access to more information and freedom to communicate than any generation in the history of the planet, the Baby Boomers turned itself into the most self-indulgent, wasteful, selfish and ignorant generation ever.
We have saddled our children and grand-children with a social, environmental, political and economic system that is bankrupt; its prospects for survival dim at best.
We messed ourselves, our country and our planet with no regard or consideration for the future in order to accumulate as many trinkets and gadgets we could get our grubby hands on -- are we happy yet?? We've left Matti and his children with nothing. The resources and jobs are gone; the air and water polluted.
I am so amazed that Matti's generation has been so, well, NICE about it. I, as Matti appears to be, would be royally pissed off.
It wasn't us--we are still here, we are still keeping the faith, we are still perservering and holding our Country and it's bad actors new and old, accountable. It was the generations that followed us that dropped the torch.
I am of the 60's generation and I say it with great pride and carry it on to this day--not disparage it or condemn it like the Obama who claims to be the "change" from your generation.
HA!
Hmmm, it sounds like you're copying the selfishness of the boomer generation, anyway. Here's a thought: nobody "handed" the youth of the '60s and '70s their "Youth Movement" -- they made it because they believed in it, without even having to insist that their parents' generation "get out of the way." So many of those people still believe in what their "movement" was about that they made up a large part of the massive antiwar marches of the last few years. So yeah, we know those unjust monstrosities are going on, we just haven't been able to stop them. I wonder if you'll find that your own generation will be able to change empire's love of war?
A second thought: what you consider to be the self-indulgent carping of the boomer generation for some decent health insurance could end up meaning you have health insurance when you need it (which could be any day, not necessarily when you're middle-aged and the next generation is biting at your heels to get out of their way).
I can't argue with your belief that the boomer generation could and should have done much better. But I wonder what accomplishments of your own generation you'll be able to brag about in another 25 or 30 years? Especially if you spend so much time fretting that other people won't get out of your way so you can do something?
Yep.
I remember a Peter Paul and Mary concert around 1965.
"Come mothers and fathers throughout the land,
And don't criticize what you don't understand,
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command,
You are old and are rapidly aging,
Please get out of the way if you can't lend your hand,
For the times, they are a chang----gin'
Come senators congressmen throughout the land,"
I forget the rest but it said something about a storm shaking the windows and rattling the doors.
HA! My the congresspeople certainly were shaking in their boots.
Yeah, FBI cointelpro, CIA pushing LSD on the hippies and prison populations, acid, torture, war. We sure put a stop to all that, didn't we?
Pitiful.
You're bitter at your own impotence, confused, ignorant of basic facts, and just plain silly. I'm a boomer and man, did we do a whack of stupid things (individually and as a group).
But... starting in the 60s, incredible changes were brought about in the culture (some not so sweet, granted) but lots that were great and greatly needed--consumer consciousness, ecological/environmental awareness, civil rights, women's rights, etc, etc, etc, etc,
Lots of permanent, positive changes. You have to be asleep, biased, or bitter and stupid not to see that.
"The sick thing is this that really isn't even a reflection of the relative sizes of our respective generations, since mine is the larger one. (Please, nobody argue with this assertion, I know we've been trained to not see it, but the Boomers had more than two children on average, which makes their children's generation larger than them) It's just that mine is more chronologically spread out, and therefore impossible to approach as a single "target market" by the Corporatist Marketer's and Advertisers."
The above is silly in so many ways... It's nothing to brag about, but it's a completely straighforward process of COUNTING people that shows that boomers were more numerous than your generation. Not only are you relatively simple and confused, but you invent your own "facts" to support your delusions.
Good luck.
Dig, I know we had our flaws.
But it was not our job to get outa your way. Any more than those who came before us gracefully stepped aside to let us do our thing.
We gave it the "best minds of our generation"
Our leaders were murdered before our eyes and in the light of day like dogs in the street. Our movements were co-opted and turned into commodities for mass consumption. We tried, we had some success. We had spectacular failures. We were part of something that looked to us like Dorothy stepping out of her black and white nightmare world into a technicolor world of possibility.
Yes. We had all the advantages. All the tools at our disposal.
But, we were busy growing the opposable thumbs required to use those tools.
You said: "I'm 30 years old with a child on the way, I'm ALREADY too old and too weighed down with responsibilities to have participated in your Youth Movement -and I haven't even had the chance to have one of my own!"
The fact that you are 30 and only now having children is thanks largely to the changes wrought by those who came before you. So, what the heck were you doing up till now? You want YOUR youth movement? Why aren't you DOING IT? Somebody strap you down and force you to settle in and go for the okie doke? NO. I thought this "life is over at 30" bullshit was OUR thing.
Each generation had its load of crap from the previous gen handed to them. Each generation has its share of advantages, and sadly, I know the load of horrors we left you. But it wasn't for lack of trying. It wasn't just because we won't get to steppin' off the path to let you pass. It is the job of each generation to shout to those who went before: "See ya!" as they go running, skipping, tumbling, charging ahead.
Youngun, I know it isn't easy. It is HARD. I do not envy you. Our mistakes stare us in the face every day. Not all of us gave up the dream. Not everyone sold out to the Man. Not all of us.
30? Hey, trust me, there is PLENTY of work to be done by able bodied adults.
Maybe it was because it was a Youth Movement without the wisdom of some sort of experience that we failed so spectacularly.
Best of luck to you all.
"Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are."
Nice posts, zuzu. Thanks for the memories and the inspiration. You sound like you lived the "revolution" as it was happening. I didn't even awaken to the fact of it until much later, or to the possibilities it raised until the last several years, when I finally became involved in some of the causes. As you say, the trouble is we all -- individuals in each generation -- have to learn to use those opposable thumbs, each of us in our own time and our own way. Despite my late arrival on the scene, I marvel at the fact that I got to be born into a generation that awakened to so many possibilities seemingly entirely spontaneously, however imperfectly we've turned the possibilities into realities.
Matti,
Not all of us. The hippies had, fleas, chiggers stds and lousy housing. Romantic? Youth movement? Ha! I was there. You wouldn't believe how straight laced most boomers were as kids. Revolution? Hype. There was NO revolution. We were rolled just like you are being rolled by the media. Stopping the fucking wars is still paramount in the minds of most people of all ages in the USA. You may not think so because the media downplays reality. I'm pissed too but you've got the wrong target. A generation caused all this shit? Tell me, which generation of the Bushes or the Kennedys or Rockefellers or Buffetts are you referring to? The target is, and always was, the elite for thinking people. DON'T FORGET WHO THE ENEMY IS.
Waaaaaa, Waaaaaa, I want my Maypo!
Your time? Smirk, betcha most of the progressives here and elsewhere are over 40.
Make your own way, spoiled brat, with your infantile whining about caring about your parents-- why the hell should we pay for your child's education and health care? It isn't our age group that everyone is wondering about being a NO SHOW.
This sums up Kennedy. He supported Obama all the way. Obama supports War, decimation of civil rights, Rendition, torture, give-aways to the rich, continued impoverishment of the "lower classes", lies, theft, death and destruction.
I remember where I was at age 11 when JFK was assassinated. I remember watching the news the night that RFK was killed in Los Angeles. I will remember the many changes that occurred as the result of Ted Kennedy's efforts over the following decades that helped to improve my life and that of my family. I will also remember the compromises he made to get even partial relief in many areas that may or may not have benefited this country. Today, I have read the story of his life and death on several of the sites like this one, and it is shameful that on a site that has been respectful in the past to others who have died after years of service to this country that I would find such poisonous tripe here.
Whether you agreed with Ted Kennedy's political stands or whether you agreed with his endorsement and support of a young president,who had he lived longer Ted Kennedy could have helped govern better and more wisely, the comments here show how shallow we as Americans have become. The young woman who wrote that she wants us "baby boomers" out of the way, well, get a clue, honey, Ted Kennedy was not a "baby boomer", he was of our parent's generation, and his generation accomplished more in your lifetime than yours has even attempted to accomplish with your iPods, video addictions, and self-righteous blatherings on things of which you have no knowledge or understanding. Ted Kennedy tried to make this a better world for people like you and you, ungrateful child that you appear to be, cannot and could not appreciate it. Personally, I would be more than happy to get out of your way, and let you wallow in your own self-serving interests while this nation falls around you. I am tired of trying to make your life better while you shaft my life and my future.
Senator Kennedy, may you rest in peace, and be very grateful that you will not live to see what the GenXers and dot.nets do to this nation.
Farewell Ted Kennedy. Some of us will try to get better pols to follow your good ideas and examples. Ted Kennedy, while not perfect, served well despite both parties crushing his great ideas and/or watering them down just like they did with the Medicare reform bill of 2003. But Ted Kennedy or none, our job is to elect better pols who will represent us ala Ted Kennedy. Quist makes an excellent point on the need to respect our living heroes and not persecute them. That said, I'll confess that I do admire a few heroes in the Senate that are trying to better represent the public well being and try to restore economic liberalism. Senators Bernard Sanders, Russ Feingold, Al Franken, and Jon Tester (I think) are the only ones in the Senate that come close to TK on economic liberalism.
Whatever man touches turns to shit. It's not their fault, it's just their nature.
The USA is an extreme example of this because we can't think in terms of 'we'. It's always 'I' because we believe we can profit only at each other's expense.
Every group of immigrants has to fight like hell to make a place for themselves. Cheating others is just good business. All our leaders are liars and thieves because they are our role models.
TV shows that glorify greed can't help but succeed.
It has already come apart and we act like nothing is wrong. The market is back up and it's all on hype. We lie to ourselves and believe the bullshit.
Everybody thinks she is a winner. I know people on public assistance who complain about welfare loafers.
Only WE can reclaim the country. As long as the ruling class and their present representative, Obama, can pit us against each other the US will become more and more a laughing stock.
Everybody says to his neighbor "I won't pay for your health care" and so none of us gets any real health care.
Come on, we have to wise up. Than again we don't have to do anything except hate each other, believe in American exceptionalism, and order some more freedom fries.
listen to mordichai, he speaks truth. PEACE is never to be tolerated in Amerika. Wars and "defense" budgets are where the real money is to be made.Periodically the fear is ramped up via lies or an occasional event. 911 is going to work for a long time. there will never be a true investigation into 911. Why do you think nothing was done for 18 months after 911? The forensics needed to be removed and the site had to be cleaned. Imagine a murder scene being cleaned up by workers and the police waiting a year and a half to "investigate". Comical.. There never was proof Bin Laden blew up the towers and the inconsistencies of 911 remind one of the JFK coverup. Bushes were involved in that murder too. read "Family Secrets" by Russ Baker to see how deep is America in the grip of a corrupt military plutocracy.
His accomplishments are worthy of suppressing the snark of not pure enough.
He was as good as it gets, considering the storms he has weathered.
And perhaps, if his health had prevailed, since he promoted Obama, he would've been the figure instrumental enough to, if not guide Obama, demote Obama as well.
"His accomplishments are worthy of suppressing the snark of not pure enough."
You're asking a lot, Vern.
Here is the truth that is being kept out of the Public EYE!
It was Bill {Bubba} Clinton who gave us Nafta, WTO, GATT and
compromised with former Sen Phil Gramm and Sen Chris Dodd in the deregulation of the Banking industry.
Clinton's Power is responsible for the outsourcing of our industrial base to China, in a move that has given us this depression that we are not about to get out of...
The Stimulus is a diversionary tactic to remove your thinking
about where we are, and what the Clintons have done to us.