No human rights abuse. Nothing to see here. Just the legal government of Honduras enforcing the law.

-- right wingers.

I see that the CIA has been at work for Chiquita and Dole.
It's no wonder that the South American Continent dreads Plan Colombia.

and so it goes. While Obama, one man who could actually make a difference in the situation in Honduras, is on vacation on that well ordered and organized little island off the coast of mass. He is silently enjoying his family time while this shit goes on around him. Oh, he did step into the spotlight to reappoint Bernanke(sp). sad, isn't it?

Discussion of Honduras has effectively disappeared from the MSM. Thanks Robert Naiman and CD for keeping us informed. Pages and pages about the protests in Iran, yet there is nothing in any of the newspapers about the death of democracy in Honduras.

The rapists are graduates of the SOA...
They are trained by US Intelligence to use rape as a tactic for evoking terror and control of their populations... Don't expect Shillary to do a damn thing about any of this... She is as corrupt as WJC...
Anyone remember the scandals of the Mena, Arkansas airport cocaine network with Bobby Seals... While Clinton was the Governor?
How Hillary's Rose Law Firm and the ADFA were used to launder a $100 million daily by providing "loans" to their cronies to buy influence and power and cover up Slick Willie's Sexcapades...?
Whitewater was a red herring whitewash investigation to cover up these crimes, and the trail of bodies of witnesses left in their wake... Same goes with the "wag the dog" Lewinsky affair...
Hillary is also a member of "The Family"... The fascist Prayer Breakfast group that was recently revealed for running a prostitution ring out of the C street house where she would go to pray... The Family is notorious for their CIA ties and for giving hundreds of millions of dollars in "aid" to brutal dictators of Somalia, Liberia, Indonesia, and elsewhere while they kill hundreds of thousands of their own citizens...
They are just as corrupt as the Bush Crime Family who they work for... But Liberals are quick to dismiss all this as a right-wing witch-hunt, for they can't handle the truth that they were suckered into voting for a pathological liar twice...
Google the "Clinton Chronicles" for details and documented evidence, and come to your own conclusions...

But but in Iran the US press reports, its elected by fraud Government is sending arms to yemen to foment rebellion!!!

It should be apparent to anyone that given the spate of articles on Iran by "well meaning Journalists" concerned with the plight of the iranian people and comparing it to what we see on the Honduras or even Afghanistan, the news is being filtered.

I am suspect of ANY Journalist who leaped into the Iran debate proclaiming fraud that remains silent on places like the Hondura's. Failure to spend equal time on the Honduras shows a deliberate attempt to SHAPE opinion rather then to inform the people.

Yeah, but the Empire supports dictatorships when it benefits corporate interests, so what else is new?. Nothing to see here, everything is fine.

It's not like there is a long-standing and clear historical precedent for supporting human rights abuses right?

Even to this day, the top recipients of US taxpayer money are among the world's worst human rights abusers and criminals: Egypt, Colombia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc.

Oh and I almost forgot the world's #1 terror nation itself. If we add up all the deaths caused directly by US military aggression, and the deaths caused by regimes supported and armed by the US since WWII we are already into the 10s of millions.

US tax dollars at work: promoting rape and pillage by the gorilla goons in Honduras.

Way to go, folks!

I can answer one of the now most requently asked questions: Where is Human Rights Watch?

On the US government payroll, that's where. They are only visible when it's time to invent stories about Chavez in Venezuela--or when the hue and cry about human rights abuses like mass killings daily here in Mexico gets to the point that folks start riding their ass about their funding.

In the face of evidence like this documentation of a radio broadcast by Jesuit run Radio Progresso, I am humbled to hear about the suffering of Irma Villanueva. I wish to help her and all of the victims of this kind of abuse. I will contact the organizations that are responsible for bringing this kind of attention to us in the CD community and offer to help in any way that I can. Thank you for your courage and belief in this person to be able to respond in a human way to the malevolent organizations that are responsible for these atrocities.

This is a classic example of how we undermine women's rights when we abet the violent replacement of legally elected progressive governments with right wing thugs who will support American corporations for a price.

We allow the country to be overtaken by kleptocrats and criminal elements, including our corporations. Add Honduras a long list of other countries in which democracy, the rights of the poor and the status of women suffered as a result of such US inspired coups.

But we could send in the US Army to do some sensitivity training. That would make it alright.

Joe

Human Rights Watch obvious attempt to ignore human rights crimes in Honduras is typical behavior for them. HRW strikes me as a front organization for the CIA and/or State Department, posing as an independent human rights organization in order to legitimize U.S. foreign policy, and Israeli misconduct, while demonizing regimes the US doesn't like, such as Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, etc., etc.

Here's the tried and true HRW formula in dealing with U.S. and Israeli misconduct, which most American media adopt uncritically:

1. ignore it as long as possible, or issue a few ambiguous vanilla press releases and hope the news worthiness gets old and goes away

2. after other legitimate rights organizations have already take the initiative to condemn and demand investigation, then HRW jumps in and pretends it was there all along.

3. issue reports accusing leftist regimes of fundamental and pervasive misconduct, while limiting reports condemning the US, Israel, or its friends of one relatively narrow aspect or another -- that way HRW can always point to reports criticizing both parties, while glossing over the fact that it's criticism of foes of the US is much, much broader than criticism of its friends. When issuing reports criticizing the US and its friends, it also tends to pick issues which other rights organizations have already documented and publicized, so that HRW is really adding little or nothing to disclosure of misconduct which can no longer be hidden or plausibly denied.

4. use "balancing" to equate horrendous war crimes by the U.S. or Israel against much lesser crimes by the victims (e.g., in one breath criticizing Israel for its invasion of Gaza, which destroyed Gaza and killed 1,300+ people, mostly civilians, and also criticizing the Palestinians for firing rockets which killed three or four civilians. HRW also seems to think an oppressed, occupied people such as the Palestinians have no right to resist by force, even though Israel uses much greater force to maintain its conquest.
5. focus criticism disproportionately on the misconduct of leftist regimes unfriendly to the US, such as Venezuela, Cuba and Honduras, Iran, and others, while at the same time ignoring condemnable conduct on the part of right wing opposition groups in those countries and others which is criminal or involves destabilization of the government. HRW devotes huge resources to investigating and publishing not only legitimate criticism, but often false reports about Venezuela, while never investigating the right wing opposition ties to US intelligence and think-tanks, acting to destabilize Venezuela and other Latin America regimes the US doesn't like.

I'm surprised the US media takes HWR seriously. On the other hand, considering the US media's performance under Bush, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the adulation for the "War on Terror", etc., I take that back. The US media's failure to recognize that HRW is little more than a shill for the US Government and corporate / foreign policy lobbies is par for the course.

You might want also to take a look at:

You might want also to take a look at:

Well, there is an Aug. 25 report here...http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/08/25/honduras-rights-report-shows-need-increased-international-pressure

for all of you to look at the doc about. The report details the many violations and is being used at this moment to develop a coordinated response by the OAS.

David,

Thank you for the link. Good for HRW. HRW has now spoken out forcefully on Honduras. Let's hope they keep it up. (I notice that Mr. Naiman has also picked up the link.)

Since the CIA overthrew the Honduran Democracy for Chiquita and Dole the price of bananas has collapsed. I don't know if it's just me or if nobody is buying their bananas.

No doubt Micheletti was a top student at the School of the Americas, he learned his craft well and his CIA teachers must be very proud of him!

where is a rendition when you really need? these cops
need to be kidnapped and tried in international court
for their inhuman actions!obama where are you on this one?

The USA cannot sponsor international law and order in regard to the Honduran coup because law and order does not apply except where it serves the interests of US elites. Instead, US elites work to convince average USans that imposing law and order on average USans is the top priority cuz failure to achieve elite status is the primary motivator behind street crime. By the same token, the Honduran coup is the Honduran people's comeuppance for their chronic economic failure. US elites need to see if the coupsters are going to be friendly allies to advance US elite interest, that is, law and order for people, and liberty/privilege for elites. US elites are counting on you to show your support for elite interests by voting elite candidates in the next election. Do it to preserve YOUR chance to become an elite one day.

To HRW, the US-European occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan do not constitute a crime against humanity. To HRW, Afghanistan has 'elections' that are valid though 'marred'. To HRW, US and Israeli threats to start a war against Iran simply do not exist.

Somalia? 'Human Rights Watch says failed US policy has escalated the conflict in Somalia. Jessie Graham reports.' and that from their website. I on the other hand personally had rather thought that the US had used Ethiopia as a surrogate to occupy the country and tear it apart for the US government? It is a mere 'escalation' to HRW though! That is how HRW spins their supposed concern over human rights in the world and it is often not a very pretty sight.

Why would anybody think that HRW will go against US foreign policy objectives in Latin America rather than aiding and abetting US government policies and goals there? Human Rights Watch? More like Human Rights Apologists for US foreign policy objectives, and that's why Noam Chomsky and others have to periodically now call them on the carpet about what they really do and don't do. It has simply become necessary to repeatedly expose this group's true agenda which is most often not that of promoting human rights much at all.

The agenda of HRW usually is to shill for a perverted version of human rights as being something that the Big Capitalist Powers (especially the US and Britain) supposedly promote in other places, rather than persistently destroy through their eternal war making and imperialism.

This is the same crew that brought you police dogs raping twelve-year-old girls ("suspected communist sympathizers") in Pinochet's Chile!

As several posters have already said, there's nothing new in an imperialist government brutally repressing anyone who opposes it - anywhere in the world. Why would the MSM or most people in the "free world" care? After all, it's not their daughters, sisters, mothers, wives etc who are being brutalized ... oh, and the women obviously "deserve" it for "trying to sabotage the efforts of the World's Only Remaining Superpower to do good."

Hillary: Your dogs have gotten off-leash.

Honduran cops? Figures! Something which Common Dreams and Human Rights Watch should have courage to raise hell about is to be found at :http://antiisgood.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/sex-slavery-the-growing-trade-in-israel/

While speaking of the coup in Honduras are we forgetting the coup in the United States that Bush and Cheney, the nasty five of the surpreme court pulled over us? Why havent these thugs been hung? After all they raped and destroyed this whole nation. I have been to Hunduras and there are certainly enough people to over power and kill the C.I.A led thugs.