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Why the Health Care Debate Is So Important Regardless of One's View of the "Public Option"
Over the past decade, the Democratic Party has specialized in offering up one excuse after the next for its collective failures. During the early Bush years, the excuse was that they endorsed Bush policies because his popularity and post-9/11 hysetria made it politically unwise to oppose him. In later Bush years when his popularity plummeted, the excuse was that Democrats were in the minority and could do nothing. After 2006 when they won a Congressional majority, the excuse was that Bush still controlled the White House and had veto power. After 2008 when a Democrat won the White House, the excuse was that Republicans could filibuster.
Now that they have a filibuster-proof majority, a huge margin in the House and the White House, the excuses continue unabated, as Democrats are now on the verge of jettisoning one of the most significant attractions to progressives of the Obama campaign -- government involvement in the health insurance market. The excuses for "compromising" are cascading more rapidly than ever: We need Republican support to ensure it's bipartisan. The Blue Dogs won't go along with what we want. Centrist Senators will filibuster. There are similar excuses being made to defend Obama from accusations that he deserves some of the blame for the failure of the "public option." Matt Yglesias makes the typical case for shielding Obama from any responsibility:
I think there’s something perverse in the very strong desire I see among liberals to make problems in congress be about anything other than congress. It’s just not in the power of Barack Obama to make the senate anything other than what it is.
I'm really surprised that there's anyone, especially Matt, who actually believes this -- that the Obama White House is merely an impotent, passive observer of what the Democrats in Congress do and can't be expected to do anything to secure votes for approval of the health care bill it favors. As the leader of his party, the President commands a vast infrastructure on which incumbent members of Congress rely for re-election. His popularity among Democrats vests him numerous options to punish non-compliant Democrats. And Rahm Emanuel built his career on controlling the machinations within Congress. The very idea that Obama, Emanuel and company are just sitting back, helplessly watching as Max Baucus, Kent Conrad and the Blue Dogs (Rahm's creation) destroy their health care legislation, is absurd on its face.
When it comes to defiant progressive members of Congress -- as opposed to supposedly defiant Blue Dogs and "centrists" -- the Obama White House has proven itself extremely adept at compelling compliance with the President's agenda. Consider what happened when progressive House members dared to oppose the war supplemental bill which Obama wanted passed:
The White House is playing hardball with Democrats who intend to vote against the supplemental war spending bill, threatening freshmen who oppose it that they won't get help with reelection and will be cut off from the White House, Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) said Friday.
"We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again," Woolsey said the White House is telling freshmen
When progressives refuse to tow the White House line, they get threatened. Contrast that with what the White House does with Blue Dogs and "centrists" who are allegedly uncooperative on health care -- they protect them:
The Politico’s Jonathan Martin reported this morning that Rahm Emanuel warned leaders of liberal groups in a private meeting this week that it was time to stop running ads attacking Blue Dog and "centrist" Dems on health care.
I’m told, however, that Emanuel went quite a bit further than this.
Sources at the meeting tell me that Emanuel really teed off on the Dem-versus-Dem attacks, calling them "f–king stupid." This was a direct attack on some of the attendees in the room, who are running ads against Dems right now.
What does that vast disparity reveal? If anything, Blue Dogs -- virtually all of whom represent more conservative districts -- are more vulnerable and thus more dependent for re-election on the White House and Democratic Party infrastructure than progressives are. If health care fails and the Obama presidency weakens, they will bear the brunt of the voters' desire to punish Democrats. The White House would have at least as much leverage to exercise against Blue Dogs and centrists. They just aren't doing so. In fact, they're doing the opposite: they're protecting them even as they supposedly impede what the White House wants on one of Obama's signature issues.
This isn't to say that Obama can single-handedly control what Congress does. It's possible that even with maximum leverage exerted, a President can still lose. But there isn't any leverage being exerted against anti-public-option "centrists" and Blue Dogs. There's just no effort being made. The White House seems perfectly content with what the centrists and Blue Dogs have done thus far; the only anger they have shown, as usual, is towards progressives who are demanding robust reform.
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A related (and in my view equally unpersuasive) excuse was offered by The Washington Monthly's Steve Benen, who seems to take seriously the claim that Democrats have been compromising so much because they wanted to attract substantial GOP support for health care. Steve correctly points out why such an expectation is ludicrous: "Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) announced that Republicans will reject reform no matter what's in the bill. . . . Negotiating health care reform with politicians who oppose health care reform doesn't make sense. Negotiating reform with politicians who've vowed to vote against reform under any circumstances is insane."
That's obviously true. In fact, it's so obviously true that no matter how dumb one might think Democrats are, they're certainly not so dumb that they failed to realize that the GOP was highly unlikely to help Obama pass health care reform no matter what the bill contained. From the start, it's been obvious to everyone -- the Obama White House and Senate Democrats included -- that the GOP would not help Obama pass health care reform. Why would the GOP want to help Obama achieve one of his most important and politically profitable goals? Of course they were going to try to sabotage the entire project and would oppose health care reform no matter what form it took. Everyone knew that from the start for exactly the reason that it was so obvious to Benen.
The attempt to attract GOP support was the pretext which Democrats used to compromise continuously and water down the bill. But -- given the impossibility of achieving that goal -- isn't it fairly obvious that a desire for GOP support wasn't really the reason the Democrats were constantly watering down their own bill? Given the White House's central role in negotiating a secret deal with the pharmaceutical industry, its betrayal of Obama's clear promise to conduct negotiations out in the open (on C-SPAN no less), Rahm's protection of Blue Dogs and accompanying attacks on progressives, and the complete lack of any pressure exerted on allegedly obstructionists "centrists," it seems rather clear that the bill has been watered down, and the "public option" jettisoned, because that's the bill they want -- this was the plan all along.
The Obama White House isn't sitting impotently by while Democratic Senators shove a bad bill down its throat. This is the bill because this is the bill which Democratic leaders are happy to have. It's the bill they believe in. As important, by giving the insurance and pharmaceutical industries most everything they want, it ensures that the GOP doesn't become the repository for the largesse of those industries (and, converesly, that the Democratic Party retains that status).
This is how things always work. The industry interests which own and control our government always get their way. When is the last time they didn't? The "public option" was something that was designed to excite and placate progressives (who gave up from the start on a single-payer approach) -- and the vast, vast majority of progressives(all but the most loyal Obama supporters) who are invested in this issue have been emphatic about how central a public option is to their support for health care reform. But it seems clear that the White House and key Democrats were always planning on negotiating it away in exchange for industry support. Isn't that how it always works in Washington? No matter how many Democrats are elected, no matter which party controls the levers of government, the same set of narrow monied interests and right-wing values dictate outcomes, even if it means running roughshod over the interests of ordinary citizens and/or what large majorities want.
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That's why this debate has now taken on such importance -- regardless of whether you think a public option is important or even if you think it's a good idea. Thanks in large part to the months-long efforts of Jane Hamsher and her FDL team -- who spent enormous amounts of time and resources getting large numbers of progressive House members to emphatically commit on video to opposing any health care bill that lacks a robust public option -- there's actually a chance this time that the outcome could be different. If those progressive House members actually adhere to their pledge, they can and will block any health care bill that lacks a public option. They can actually thwart industry demands and the dictate of Beltway leaders; can empower a new faction in Washington (themselves) beholden to different interests (ordinary citizens); and can vest some actual significance in the outcome of the 2006 and 2008 election.
Along with several other blogs, Jane and FDL are sponsoring a fundraiser to reward, and embolden, those progressive members who have made that pledge, and it raised an extraordinary sum of close to $150,000 in just a couple of days. Those interested can donate here. Rachel Maddow's lead segment last night was a discussion with Jane regarding the political significance of the health care debate and the possibility that progressives could actually prevail on something of significance for once.
The Washington Post today quotes an "anonymous White House official" excoriating what he calls "the left of the left" for petulantly demanding a "public option." That article notes that the Obama White House is surprised by the intensity of progressives' insistence that the bill include a "public option," and who can blame them for being surprised? Ordinarily, progressives are told that they cannot have what they want because Blue Dogs and Republicans (on behalf of the industries that own them) must get what they want, and progressives meekly accept that because it's "better than nothing" (don't let the Perfect be the Enemy of the Good, they are lectured). More than anything else, it's vital that this dynamic change. Such a change would be far more consequential even than the specific health care policy issues at stake in this debate.
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Show AllGlen I love your stuff but here you keep on referring to the healthcare reform. What Obama and most of the democrats support is insurance reform. The bill as most of us understand it turns the human into a piece of meat to be placed depending on income into pools from which the insurance industry can decide who is to get treatment and who will die.
Has ever in our history there been such an affront to the understand that we are all equal and will be treated equally?
As women do not receive the same pay as men it is going provide a system totally based on inequality. How can you call such a system reform? It is backwards and regressive.
Greenwald's a libertarian. I doubt he even wants a public option. He's not somebody to listen to on health care.
Glenn Greenwald is great on the constitutional stuff, like torture, reports on the DOJ and Gitmo and all that. It's a good way to keep tabs on what this corrupt government is doing in these arenas. Where he goes off the rails is believing that it matters who the president and his appointments are. He's an Obama apologist.
Once he strays away from that, he's a clown. He spends half his blog time taking digs at conservative mainstream media pundits. It's pretty obvious he'd love to be part of that same pundit class with his own talk show. Nobody ever learned anything from Glenn Greenwald reading crap like that.
All Greenwald's articles are informative, enlightening and ritht to the point.
I am not sure why are you attacking him so viciously. Do you get payed by the Pharma/insurance companies.".?
Every word in this article is true and correct. What is your problem.?
Do you support a public option in the health care "reform ? Could you shed some light about your ideas about health care reform??
ad hominem.
Greenwald's a libertarian? I thought he was a Liberal Democrat who supported Obama for President.
Oh, this is garbage.
The left should take the iniative for once. Be aggressive and damn the consequences. If the right, including the "centrists" and "Blue Dogs", want to filibuster and vote against something decent THEN LET THEM. The whole nation will see who owns them. Let's see a real fight for a change.
Demand HR676 and let these guys scream.
Amen to Glenn Greenwald and bgcd.
The Washington Post today quotes an "anonymous White House official" excoriating what he calls "the left of the left" for petulantly demanding a "public option."
If I'm going to be excoriated (ouch!) it might as well be for HR 676. One of the things I love about that bill is that it also recognizes our right to privacy and allows opting out of the new electronic medical records master plan.
Single payer, single payer. Every where I go, all I hear is single payer. Let me tell you, Nance, it's going to be single payer.
"Glenn Greenwald is great on the constitutional stuff, like torture, reports on the DOJ and Gitmo and all that. It's a good way to keep tabs on what this corrupt government is doing in these arenas."
I think that’s a pretty fair assessment.
I think part of the problem with Greenwald’s view with respect to healthcare is that he apparently sees the issue as another “Garden-variety political question”
If you look Greenwald’s article here at CD Friday, July 31st
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/31-6
he writes:
“Garden-variety political questions -- what should be the highest tax rate? what kind of health care policy should the government adopt? to what extent should the government regulate private industry? -- are ones intended to be driven by "the practical considerations policymakers must contend with.”
Re-read that post - GG was railing against the whole idea of "practical considerations policymakers must contend with," in response to one who accused him of not understanding "the practical considerations policymakers must contend with."
"Re-read that post"
Well frank, I just re-read Greenwald's post of the 31st that you mention--and I stand behind my original comment made then--for that post--as well as the comment I made regarding Greenwald's latest article here.
Bring America Back !!!!
***It is very informative to learn 64 reps are considered Progressive .
***Now how many of the 64 "Progressives" yielded to the Administration and voted FOR 110 billion $$$ continued funding of an illegal, immoral, and criminal War in Iraq and Afghan and Pakistan ??? After the Trillions plus, plus ?
**The problem is NOT the Insurance companies, the problem is the Military-Industrial war complex. Turn the war funding over to civil Healthcare Funding of a Single Payer system for all Americans, and the insurance companies shall vomit !
**If those so=called reps voted FOR War Funds, they are NOT to be honored with the title of Progressives.
***PEACE IS PROGRESSIVE WAR IS REGRESSIVE
TruthKnoller,
I think that is a very fair assessment and will be implementing the same. I will try to post back with the ratio and names of 64 progressives list that voted for Iraq, Afghan and Pakistan abominations to continue to be funded after I write yet another letter of recommendation for yet another of the unemployed. That makes 17 this year, besides current and former students. I wish I thought it would do some good.
51 Democrats in the House voted against the Afghan war supplemental this year.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll265.xml#N
In Summation:
The fix was in.
If our progressive reps had real balls, they would take a stand for the only answer: health care for ALL Americans. Period.
The average private policy for a single man is $1,200/year, plus at least a $500 deductible. That's $1,700/year (before copays, etc) or $141/month. For those with work health insurance, the costs per worker are about the same.
Minus the deductible, waste, fraud and obscene profits, the wholesale cost of that policy is about $500, or $40/month. The same it costs to provide universal health care to each of our 2.3 million prison inmates.
$40 x 250 Americans = $10 billion/month, or $150 billion/year including investment earnings.
Every non-Medicare American pays $40/month, just like any other bill, to the American Public Care Trust Fund.
In exchange: universal, non-elective coverage. Insurance companies - gone. Employers out of the equation.
Run just like Medicare, but more efficiently. Walk in, get treated, sign something, walk out. Bill is submitted to the APTCF, checked for accuracy, and paid net 30. Profits capped at a more than reasonable 5% (3% more than the average supermarket.)
No mandates, no new taxes, no deficit spending. Every month, you pay your cell bill, your cable bill, and your $40 APCTF bill, which equals the price of 4 packs of smokes in NYC.
That is THE only right answer. Even the crazies can't argue that they do not want universal health care for $40/month. Those that do are welcome to buy any policy they choose...
Obama spent his early growing years trying to reconcile black militant and white liberal parts of himself. He is still geared to bringing opposites together, to bipartisanship. I hope he begins to realize this is not working in poitics. The Repubs want him to fail. The extreme right can't stand having a black president. Time has come for him to fight back, to stand firm on the public option.
The vanity of his own unresolved personal agenda dovetails nicely into his corporate kowtowing.
Those who insist on a public option are "the left of the left"? Since 65% of Americans favor the public option in recent polls, that must mean that the 65% on the far right oppose any health care reform, and the remaining 870% in the Mature, Responsible, Serious Center are for a grown-up compromise on health care reform that rejects both extremes.
Guys...Senator Obama voted for the Cheney energy bill. He stole the nomination from the better candidate. His fans are foul-mouthed Philistines.
The man is not a Democrat.
The man is a Democrat. The error is your opinion of what is a Democrat. A Democrat is a person paid by the very wealthy to help them increase their wealth.
Great article to set the record straight. Bookmarked!
The only thing I would add is we have a Blue Dog and our district isn't conservative at all. In fact, for many years we had one of the most progressive congressman around--Peter Kostmayer.
I would question what exactly is "conservative".
Great article demonstrating how deep down the rabbit hole the obfuscations and untruths run. Obama ought to get another new marketing schema presenting a photo of himself while being riden by a lobbyist with the caption: "This is your brain (lobbyist), and this is your brain on drugs (Obama)."
hi,
can someone give a brief explanation of the distinction between a public option, and single payer?
thanks
This might be of help.
http://www.canow.org/.a/6a00e54ee7a
d648834011570345bef970c-popup
And for this one, you can compare any and all proposals out there against eachother. Single payer is the Representative John Conyers box, and the public option could best be compared via the House Tri-Committee box.
http://www.kff.org/health
reform/sidebyside.cfm
Hi, my quick take.
I would love to be able to do that, describe the "public option, but none of us really knows what that heffalump will look like until the President finally signs the bill eventually passed.
Here's what we do know:
Healthcare (insurance) reform with the Public option is not sustainable, or fair. It will most likely mandate the purchase of a defective product that is designed to perpetrate fraud. I saw an analogy that this reform would be like being forced to buy a new Pinto on financing. You'd be forced by circumstances to keep driving it until it caught fire then still owe the remaining payments.IF you were lucky enough to escape with your life. I keep hearing a statistic bandied about that right now 87% of those with "coverage" are allegedly PERSONALLY satisfied with THEIR coverage.(note skewed framing of question) That leaves 13% that are not; you don't suppose that those 13% are the ones who have serious conditions and are left without the coverage they purchased, only to find insurance companies will be allowed to continue to say,
"But it's your fault we couldn't cover you after all, even after we took your premiums all those years,NO REFUNDS. You left out pre existing conditions you had no idea you had, you and your doctor want the "wrong sorts" of treatment for your condition, blah, blah blah. NONE OF THIS WILL BE FIXED WITH THE REFORM including a PUBLIC OPTION. Even if a robust public option is included, the pool of applicants to the public option would tend to be the older or sicker of us who won't be cherry picked by insurance companies. Insurers get to keep healthy profitable customer base by offering them Premiums that would be lower than if enrolled in revenue neutral Public Option. The cost sharing that would occur in Universal Single Payer spreads risks across the most heterogenous(healthy and sick and young and old) pool, is the best way to lower the premiums across the board and to remain sustainable and inclusive and fair. Everybody in, nobody out. Just like all the 36 countries ahead of us in healthcare outcomes( at approximately 1/2 cost per capita).
When people have the facts they understand they would have MORE PERSONAL CHOICE, BETTER CARE and LOWER COSTS to themselves and the economy by cutting the parasitic middle men "insurers" out of the HEALTHCARE picture. How? think Medicare and VA, low overhead adminstrative costs around 3%,(NOT 10 times higher at 30%, private insurances take for administration). Think about it, 'I need the healthcare; if I had that I wouldn't care about Healthcare insurance, if I knew it wouldn't be costly to me or my family to obtain necessary care.', right?
With most versions of Universal Single payer, the private individual would choose their privately employed healthcare provider, who would provide care and submit billing to the Gov't administered risk sharing pool, who would verify care was indeed provided and pay for the service on a small, negotiated profit basis to the private provider. That's it. Eliminating the insurers' for profit motives would leave more money in the pool to spend on either better healthcare or lower premiums. There would be no incentive to deny care or raise premiums which are the two big problems all WE plebians are encountering under the current system.
Anything but Universal Single Payer Healthcare reform is treating the signs and symptoms of a disembodied theoretical patient. Universal Single payer healthcare is addressing the root cause of the disease, leaving the patient to heal themselves and watching the signs and symptoms resolve themselves as recovery progresses.
Hi TeriD:
Hope you're still out there.
The two responses you received are sorta helpful, sorta not. The first one is rather long and meandering and confuses the issue of the public option with mandates--on balance, not really helpful. I truly wish that people who don't really understand the issues would just . . . stay their hand.
The second steers you to Web sites that offer pretty good comparisons--although the League of Women Voters chart is very misleading on certain issues--it doesn't specify which version of the public option it's referring to; hence it states that the public option will exercise control over costs, even though the Senate HELP bill expressly forbids it from doing so: it must negotiate fees just as private insurers do and cannot base its fees on Medicare. The second site (Kaiser) is good, but you already have to know which bills are single payer and which are variants of the public option, and which public option bills are actually being considered--the site does not tell you that only the House Tri-Committee bill and the Senate HELP bill are really in play as regards the public option.
To briefly learn about single payer and the issues surrounding it, this summary from Physicians for a National Health Plan is the best source:
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/singlepayer_faq.php
For issues surrounding the public option, you should read these two articles, both by Kip Sullivan of Physicians for a National Health Plan:
"Bait and Switch: How the Public Option Was Sold"
http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/07/20/bait-and-switch-how-the-%E2%80%9Cpublic-option%E2%80%9D-was-sold/.php
"Reply to Critics of Bait and Switch"
http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/08/08/reply-to-critics-of-%E2%80%9Cbait-and-switch-how-the-%E2%80%98public-option%E2%80%99-was-sold%E2%80%9D/
If you have a chance to read this material today--or soon, before this comment thread disappears from the CD front page--please post and let us know what your impressions are.
Best,
Van