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Go Ahead, Congress, Please Make Our Day
Politico is reporting that Congressional Republicans want to force their colleagues in the House and Senate who vote for a public insurance option as part of health care reform to enroll in that public plan when it becomes available.
I think Democrats ought to call their bluff and pledge to be the first to sign up. If they do, they will have to shove me out of line. I would love to have the option of enrolling in a public plan that offers a decent standard benefit package at a more affordable price. I am sick and tired of knowing that only 80 cents of every dollar I pay in premiums to my private insurer goes to pay doctors and hospitals for care they provide. (This figure is down from 95 cents in 1993 before the industry came to be dominated by a cartel of hugh for-profit insurance companies like the two I used to work for.) I am eager not to have to donate 20 cents of every premium dollar to cover my insurer's sales, marketing and underwriting expenses and to help make the CEO and the big institutional investors and Wall Street hedge fund managers even more obscenely rich than they already are, thanks to the inflated premiums we have to pay.
Here's what Politico reported:
Rep. John Fleming (R-La.), a family physician, kicked off the quixotic bid last week, urging House members to give up their right to participate in the much-revered Federal Employees Health Benefits Program if they support a government-run program as part of the health care reform package.
Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma are pushing the same concept in the Senate, preparing separate amendments that would require members -- and maybe even their staffs -- to sign up for the public option. With Democrats firmly in control of Congress, the idea is not likely to gain traction. Proponents of the public plan say the resolution would do exactly what Republicans have warned against, undermining the private insurance system by moving people into a public plan.
But the effort has caught fire in the right-wing blogosphere and on talk radio, serving as a rallying point for conservatives opposed to one of the top priorities of Democrats... Newt Gingrich's Center for Health Transformation is promoting Fleming's resolution on its website and started an online petition titled "Good Enough for Congress."
After Democrats call their bluff, I would counter with this: Every member of Congress who votes against the public insurance option must enroll in one of the high-deductible plans like the one that CIGNA forced me into a few years ago, against my wishes. (I am a former CIGNA employee, so CIGNA was both my employer and my insurance company.)
Opponents of health care reform raise the specter of the government forcing us out of health care plans that we like. In reality, our employers and insurers are doing this to us already. While employed at CIGNA, I was in a PPO that I liked, until the company decided a few years ago to force all if its employees out of their HMOs and PPOs and Point of Service plans and into what the industry refers to, misleadingly and euphemistically, as "consumer-driven" plans. It was a take-it-or-leave-it deal. If I didn't want to enroll in the high-deductible plan that CIGNA offered, I could join the growing ranks of the uninsured or try to get coverage through the individual market. That wasn't really an option. I was in my 50s and could not find a decent plan that I could afford, because insurers are free to gouge us when we reach a certain age.
In a high-deductible plan, enrollees have to spend a lot more money out of their own pockets before their insurance coverage kicks in than they had to spend in their HMOs and PPOs. These plans are fine for people who are young, healthy, and not accident-prone. and wealthy. It also helps to have a better-than-average income. In other words, a high-deductible plan might be exactly what you're looking for if you don't really need decent insurance now and can afford to shell out thousands of dollars of your own money in the event you get hit by a bus. The rest of us, however, might want to steer clear of this sort of plan -- if we had the choice.
More and more companies are doing what CIGNA did -- forcing their employees out of the plans they like and into plans they don't. Another big insurer, United Healthcare, did the same thing to its employees a few years ago. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just wait. Insurers are eager to send HMOs and PPOs to the ash heap of insurance history, which is where they sent traditional indemnity plans several years ago.
On second thought, it might be good to give members of Congress who vote against a public insurance option the choice of enrolling in one of the limited-benefit plans being promoted these days by insurers -- including the huge for-profit insurance companies that now dominate the industry. The premiums for these plans are a little lower than plans that offer comprehensive coverage, but they often don't cover things most of us have grown to expect. Little things like hospitalization. Such a deal.
Now you see why the insurance industry insists on being able to charge older folks a lot more for coverage than younger folks and why it is insisting on "benefit design flexibility." They want to have the flexibility to "design" and force us into plans that cover less and less and cost us more and more. That, readers, is what your private insurance company has in store for you if Congress fails to pass meaningful health care reform legislation.
By the way, insurers including CIGNA are now also marketing these limited-benefit, high-deductible plans as "voluntary." This means that your employer would allow you to enroll in these type of plans at the workplace but make you pay the entire amount of the premium. That's right, employers in the future will not have to contribute one thin dime toward your coverage. Future, heck, many are already there. A growing number of employers are already "offering" these plans to their employees. CIGNA offers such coverage under the brand name Starbridge, which "enables companies to offer a limited-benefit plan that is affordable and does not require employer contribution." The underwriting guidelines for Starbridge make it available only to employers who have at least 70 percent annual employee turnover and who have fewer than 65 percent female employees. Also, the average age of the workforce has to be 40 or younger. You're right if you think the profit margins on these plans are high. How could they not be? Cha-ching!
I encourage every member of Congress, Republicans as well as Democrats, to do a little research into what Big Insurance has in store for us before voting on legislation this summer or fall.
This is why I left my job and why I am speaking out.
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Show All"I encourage every member of Congress, Republicans as well as Democrats, to do a little research into what Big Insurance has in store for us before voting on legislation this summer or fall."
Believe me; they already know. Besides, what USA Incorporated has in store for you ranks nowhere near the top of the congressional list of concerns. In fact, the implicit assumption that it does is the root of this problem among many others. That and the propensity of most Americans to seek solutions that are acceptable "within the system" set forth by the very forces most determined to deny their needs and wishes. I won't even bother to wish you good luck as luck has nothing to do with it.
Anybody with a three digit IQ, including electeds, know that Big Insurance has the following in store for us: 1) increased premium rates, 2) reduced benefits, 3) bigger bribes for electeds, 4) newer, larger corporate jets for insurance executives.
I can empathize with Potter's dismay at the insurance he was offered by the insurance company that employed him. Five years ago my wife worked for a major regional medical insurance company and the medical insurance they offered was so expensive and limited that I added her to my government insurance at far less premium cost and better benefits.
That's really sleazy that the insurance companies can't even give their own employees decent, affordable health care.
Ray, you really spoiled my fantasy world. You mean that "historic" meeting (May 11, in case anyone forgot) with the health insurance executives, during which they "promised" to cut costs by $2 trillion over the next decade, isn't going to help? Darn, I really thought America's ranking among the industrialized nations would go from 37 to 2 or 3 as a result...
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Yep! Go for it. Go for their "more profit for us, less care for everyone" package that still leaves 30 to 34 million people without health care.
A package that even a first year economic student could tell you is far too costly. That we cannot fund it. Cannot afford it.
Either do the best you can to fix our current syatem or put in the only affordable option that covers everyone...Single Payer.
The current offerings are simply lollipops for suckers.
If affordability is the key issue, you'd have to work really hard to find ANYTHING less affordable than the current system. In fact, the US sense of what its taxpayers can and can't afford is truly remarkable accross the entire spectrum of governmental and MICC activities.
I certainly admire your contention that the US government has sense (lol) Point taken though. And affordability is the key issue. If we can't pay for it, we can't sustain it. We no longer have any wiggle room.
So that leaves....Single Payer....the only sensible option. Wich I'm sure you would agree with.
Heh. Agreed. In this case, I use "sense" only in the limited context of primordial life being sensate, but I suppose even that may be overly optimistic.
Ha! Obscenely "overly optimistic"!! But generous of yopu to credit the possibility actual brain cell's for them.
Congress IS WORKING VERY HARD to create a system that is more expensive than the current one. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO)keeps telling them so. Congress will not request the CBO produce a financial analysis of single-payer because they know how low the cost would be compared to the other schemes they are concocting.
"Congress will not request the CBO produce a financial analysis of single-payer because they know how low the cost would be compared to the other schemes they are concocting."
That sir, is the exact truth. We are about to see if there is any honesty left in the Senate when this abortion gets there.
$1.4 million a day spent by the insurance lobby against any real reform, especially s-p, guarantees we aren't going to get healthcare reform. As for Kucinich's bill, when was the last time Kucinich got ANY bill passed? I expect this one to go the way of his proposed Dept. of Peace. Right down the Congressional crapper. Anything Kucinich favors get about 5 other members' support. The public option will even be flushed down the crapper by the time this non-reform bill is passed. If all we do about it is plead with the assholes who represent big pharma and the insurers ("our" congressmen), then all we'll get is lies and rationalizations about how their hands are tied, they can't get the votes, and what a great plan they have in store for us. We'll end up just as fucked as we've always been, and they'll declare it a great victory for the people.
Actually, it's the "homeland' that's being flushed down the crapper in myriad ways.
And while they are all so enthusiastic about challenges, the Democrats should challenge the Republicans by the same measure to agree to be waterboarded so that they can fully and unequivocally be certain that it is not a form of torture..As they claim!
I for one wish that the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program be abolished. In this fashion all members of Congress would live in the real world...Sure many have enough money to buy the best insurance anyway... But many Congressman don't and would think with their pocket in mind before voting for measures pushed by special interests....
Turn it around. Any of our CongressCritters that voted against Public Option should be forced to buy their own insurance on the market. Most of them are over fifty, they will soon find that the majic of the market is not in the favor of the consumer.
I agree with what you are saying, but in reality such a scheme is not likely to make any difference. I think we can be fairly certain that good insurance policies will be issued to any member of Congress who votes the "right" way, no matter how old he or she is. It would be a good investment strategy for the insurance companies, who find that a few million spent in lobbying pays off in the billions. What's a little more spent in actually covering their puppets in Washington to keep them healthy so they can show up to vote in Congress?
Obama thinks we are all fools. Who will pay for single payer?
The money saved by getting rid of private insurance and regulating drugs would be more than enough to provide the best health care for everyone.
He knows this and he should know we know it. Why does he repeat this lie?
He won't even say the words 'single payer'. Instead he says 'free health care for all' implying that such a something-for-nothing scheme is impossible. He won't say that what we have now is far more expensive and cumbersome than single payer.
Not only are these corporations effectively protection rackets, they own the police.
Obama has figured out how to fool enough of the voters to obtain and maitain power.
Got to hand it to the Republicans, though. They appear to be demanding a little "instant accountability" in their challenge. Surely this concept is a wonderful idea and should be business-as-usual in Congress. Which means of course that any "member" that votes for war should either go themselves, or delegate a member of their family to go to that war.
Great way to peace, I'd say --
I was a top-notch manager at a health insurance firm and I loved it. Mr. Potter is just a sore loser who can't shut up and be thankful for what his job's paying him. Insurance companies have a right to make a profit even if it means paying less to the doctors and the hospitals. Without keeping 20%, how do you expect insurance providers to operate? Mr. Potter wouldn't be writing this sore loser article if he hadn't earned. Sometimes, it's necessary to deny insurance to patients with very bad records. Doctors are rich enough already so why shouldn't the insurance companies be given their fair share? Insurance companies aren't a threat to doctors. Trial lawyers and frivolous lawsuits from greedy patients are the biggest threats to doctors. Just like those goddamn unions who made NYPD a hell a long time ago, these goddamn trial lawyers can't stop being ambulance chasers. I was glad I could use my skills as a police officer and a mercenary to crack down on those greedy trial lawyers. Cutting down on frivolous lawsuits will save the doctors and insurance providers lots of money and patients can receive their services cheaper.
Know what I think? You never worked for an insurance company except as a salesman or janitor. You just like to call attention to yourself.
You have probably told people that you were variously a special forces operative, a hit man, a self made multi billionaire, anything you could dream up.
Bus stations, airports, are crawling with people like you who strike up a conversation with anybody who will listen.
Sioux Rose
NIETZSCHE: You'd think if he were to pass himself off as a former CEO he'd improve his vocabulary and capacity to present a reasoned argument. I think he's on meds, and he also posts as Nebraska Nathan and a few other names. He tends to use a certain WET metaphor that gives him away. I think his Mother didn't get around to toilet training him until he was about 5. It left scar tissue as we can all see.
May also double as Laffing Garfield; if not, they are very closely related-- or sharing the same cell and rotating Internet privileges.
I can't believe he's serious.
The goal of insurance companies is to maximize their profits at all costs. They don't care about their customers one iota. Hiring a rightwing lunatic whose background includes police brutality and/or being a merciless mercenary is sadly quite acceptable to most big insurance companies given their cutthroat and ruthless nature. It's part of the Strict Father Morality world view of "shoot first ask later" and "profits first service later".
teddy, I wholeheartedly agree. The insurance companies need to be terminated, both health and auto. Mandatory health care designed to force people to be at the mercy of private insurance companies is even more dangerous than the current mandatory auto insurance going on in several states. Insurance is itself doing nothing more than playing people for their money. With single payer anyone in government who plays with your money has to answer to the public.
"without profits -- how do you expect insurance companies to operate?"
the ANSWER is SIMPLE:
INSURANCE COMPANIES should NEVER be allowed to EXIST!
problemS - solved.
their owners and 'workers' and 'investors' can go and find another, HONEST means of living - just like EVERYONE ELSE they SCAM and SUCK blood FROM.
insurance companies are in the business of DECLINING claims. PERIOD. THAT"s the central AIM of their existence - and PAYING OUT claims is what they can call their "cost of business" ....
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they WOULDN"T be IN business UNLESS their "denial of claims" WORKS
JUST GREAT!!! after amassing UNJUSTIFIED and UNEARNED "premiums" PROFITS from everyone.
Insurance companies should NOT EXIST in health care. they are an INVENTION of profiteers - and are - in the total scheme of economics, society and human civilization and nature
UNNATURAL and an ABERRATION that ought to be ERASED from civilization ENTIRELY!
Exactly!
Originally (lifetimes ago), "insurance" was a group of people getting together, kicking down a bit of cash on a regular basis, and using the accumulated funds to cover specific emergencies.
The fund managers took over and now they rule the world (with their zombie clones in the rest of the "financial sector"...).
Let's cancel the whole "private insurance profit" thing and, crazy idea, take care of each other fairly and equitably through a single-payer system...
Without keeping 20%, how do you expect insurance providers to operate?
We don't, that's the point. We want you to go away. Hospitals/Clinics/Physicians PROVIDE A SERVICE to patients. What service do you provide?
EncinoM, I think you're full of bull excrement. But, since you want to blame everything on trial lawyers and "frivolous lawsuits" rather than the greedy bloodsuckers in the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries, look at the health care costs in Texas. They adopted malpractice reform, yet the cost of health care- particularly in the city (McAllen) covered in an article in a recent New Yorker-- keeps rising. If it's directly related to malpractice, and the malpractice cases have dropped down to almost nothing in Texas, what's the reason?
The article is worth a read, if you haven't already read it.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=1
Well Mr. Top Notch Manager of a health insurance company - I couldn't help but notice you mention the work "patients" only once in your posting and in the context of denying insurance. One day the likes of those who have profited from the misery of others and exploited it ad infinitum will have their reckoning.
I've been a "top notch" health care professional working for a non profit health care provider for the past 27 years. We've witnessed how "top notch" managers of insurance companies like yours operate as little more than tools for their corporate masters. "Top notch manager" of a health insurance company should be interpreted as a mid-level bureaucrat that looks out for the bottom line at the expense of their insured by denying necessary care and procedures, chiseling desperate people for higher premiums and trying to weasel out of paying claims you are obligated to.
You and your industry have a lot to answer for, sir. People have died on your watch and from nothing more than the greed and avarice of serving the bottom line.
And BTW, only 3% of health care expenditures involve what you call frivolous lawsuits.
candrew57,
Thank you for voicing the truth. Encino, the manager who puts notches in his head everytime he denies a claim is the resident psycho.
"Without keeping 20%, how do you expect insurance providers to operate?"
Medicare operates at 3% overhead. Class dismissed.
Sioux Rose
If one of these EXTORTION plans is approved by congress, an entire new infrastructure will need to be put in place and enforced to make sure all the homeless and jobless pay their fair share of health "care" insurance.
First they steal our money to make war on false cause all to profit big oil and the MIC.
Then they take what's left of our money (a paper game of advanced alchemy) to hand it to banksters and those that gamble with hard-working citizens' savings plans, etc. The integrity of the dollar is gone. What has disappeared is incomprehensible.
And now they want to extort any remaining funds to hand them over to corporations (insurance firms) that are NOTORIOUS for DENYING care to those in need, often those who have paid their MAFIA-like monthly installment fees?
What the f--k is going on here?
Our congress is nothing but paid sychophants, the press a right wing echo chamber, and so many obese, tired, depressed, drugged out, using alcohol to get by, or incapable of seeing the truth thanks to a disinformation campaign presented as generic media entertainment. A soporific citizenry created!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A call to all angels in the vicinity! UFOs... can you read us? I, a conscientious citizen of a dying planet, am sending out an intergalactic S.O.S. Please respond!
and as pelosi or some congress folks were forced to ask recently -
"these amounts given to the banks -- WHERE are they coming FROM?":
OF COURSE the FEDBANK, they ought to know - is given the POWER , unconstitutionally - to PRINT MONEY and "wealth" OUT OF THIN AIR
further DEBASING the US DOLLAR.
KEEP IT UP america -- keep it up!!
make more "phantom wealth" .....
in the MEANTIME - china's economy has just accelerated in the second quarter of the year - in its growth and development by re-channeling its wealth TO INTERNAL DEVELOPMENT where it is needed - in short - ACTUALLY INVESTING ...in what the Asiatimesonline writer Henry CK Liu - for years suggested to chinese leaders:
INvesting in what he called :
"THE TRUE WEALTH OF NATIONS is not Money or goods - the TRUE WEALTH of Nations is ........PEOPLE. without people...there is no economy".
but hey - good ol usa can PRINT MONEY and "create wealth" out of THIN AIR ....it's BLESSED BY GOD after all.......it's THAT exceptional.......
Actually, the ONLY wealth is food!
>>If one of these EXTORTION plans is approved by congress, an entire new infrastructure will need to be put in place and enforced to make sure all the homeless and jobless pay their fair share of health "care" insurance
Put those that dont pay in Jail!! Then charge them room and board and if they can not afford that , extend their sentence. Repeat as necessary.
HAVE these idiots considered what the penalty will be for REFUSAL to buy insurance? DO they even think that far ahead or are they just that stupid?
Actually, I believe they are just that stupid.
Did you notice that this plan STILL leaves approximately 30 million without coverage, unless they plugged that hole whan I wasn't looking.
I see the same shitty halfassed attitude with the economy..."Well...things aren't catastrophic any more, they're just really really really really really bad. We see that as an improvemnet." Suck eggs you friggin sellouts. I HATE : http://vote.wewantthepublicoption.com/p-dfa-te3
Well Sister Rose, I wish I could answer this question...."What the f--k is going on here?" But I'm damn well not sure. There seems to be an agenda thats behind this, but I'm damned if I can see what it is. I mean something behind the profits for our buddies. Maybe I'm just seeing shadows.
Sioux Rose,
I'm still sending out an S.O.S. as well. The outrageous behavior of our psycophantic government just gets more galling, arrogant and insensitive. Hang in there. We must survive.
But the Business Roundtable's... er, I mean Obama's plan is going to put us in charge of that 20% profit and all the other corporate hands out. Here's the plan on the table:
Health care delivery needs a new business model: one that puts customers in the center and uses the power of the market to lower costs, improve quality, create more consumer choice and expand accessibility.
The Business Roundtable has a plan that, we believe, will put us on the path to a competitive health care system. Our plan, which we announced yesterday, rests on four pillars:
1. Creating greater consumer value and efficiency in the health care marketplace,
2. Providing more affordable health insurance options for all Americans,
3. Placing an obligation on all Americans to have health insurance coverage – everybody registers, everybody plays,
4. And offering assistance to uninsured, low-income families to meet that obligation.
http://newscenter.verizon.com/leadership/speeches/americas-health-care-at.html
See how easy it is? Just spend $19B on computers, make everyone buy and presto, no more profiteering! Of course, even these captains of capitalism are all for more government dollars spent to subsidize the growing number of customers who cannot afford the product, so it's a socialized capitalistic solution - uniquely American, or so I've heard.
Wendell Potter was interviewed by Amy Goodman on www.democracynow.org, yesterday 07/16/09, for the entire show, very interesting.
"The underwriting guidelines for Starbridge make it available only to employers who have at least 70 percent annual employee turnover and who have fewer than 65 percent female employees. Also, the average age of the workforce has to be 40 or younger."
These sorts of underwriting guidelines are what pass for health care "competition" and "innovation" in the minds of Washington policymakers and free-market idealogues everywhere. Their sole purpose is to segment the market so as to facilitate the identification of profitable and unprofitable pieces of business for the insurance companies.
Why would any sane person choose to purchase "insurance" (a totally inappropriate business model for the administration of health care expenditures which, having profound public health implications, should be treated as public services) from for-profit companies who seek to maximize their returns by denying services they have contracted to provide?
How many horror stories need to be told before even our most corrupt congressional representatives will be shamed into admitting the truth: that our health care system is a miserable failure?
Do they really expect that we will accept being MANDATED to participate in a system that operates in this fashion?
As I have stated here before:
I will refuse to comply with any law that requires me to buy health "insurance" from a commercial insurance company.
I will refuse to comply with any taxing authority that attempts to enforce such a mandate.
I do not expect , nor do I wish, to receive any services from a health care system that is administered by profit-seeking enterprises. More to the point, I will refuse to give my consent to be conveyed, examined or treated in any way, and will refuse to accept any responsibility for the cost of treatment provided to me in spite of my expressed wishes.
If I get hit by a bus, consider me roadkill.
Sadly, and unconscionably, Single Payer is not in the cards. But in the absence of a STRONG public option (one that is admisistered by government and affords me the choice to use not-for-profit providers), I will exercise my private option to refuse to participate in or cooperate with a health care system dominated by corporate and political greed and malfeasance.
As I have been doing for the past five years.
I live only on social security checks. I do not wish to contribute to mandatory health insurance.
Does mandatory insurance mean it would be taken out of my ss check, thereby tying my hands as far as refusing??
Depends. Not necessarily.
No. You are already on Medicare. The whole thing does not apply to you. For people like you and I, the danger is the gutting of medicare so our deductible increases so much each year that routine doctor visits become unaffordable.
F@#king idiots with their f#@king stupid games - our elected Representatives are pathetic, you know that? Absolutely pathetic.
Meanwhile, of course, it's a no-brainer: all the Reps can afford a trip out to Cedar's if they need it, so there's no worries about care.
Not only should they sign up, they should turn it into a public event! Like with ribbon cuttings and brass bands and maybe some clowns...
I think, better than requiring Congresspeople who support the public option to have to give up their Federal Employees Health Benefits program, they should be forced to spend at least one year earning what the average, middle class wage earner gets and have to pay the same high insurance premiums- with the same ridiculous copays and deductibles, plus have to send their kids, if they have any, to public schools (preferably, the most run down ones in the poorest urban areas). Only then will they be able to understand what Americans are really going through.
I WILL NOT PAY AN INSURANCE PREMIUM TO SOME PREDATOR CORPORATE ORGANIZATION FOR THEIR PROFIT OR SLICE OF THE PIE WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES DO NOT PAY AN 'INSURANCE PREMIUM' FOR THEIR MEDICAL CARE NEEDS.
IF WE COULD GET RID OF THE LOBBYISTS AND THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WE COULD GET SINGLE PAYER BUT NOT UNTIL WE DO RID OUR GOVERNMENT OF THOSE CROOKS AND LEECHES ON OUR MONEY.