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Health Insurance Whistle-Blower Knows Where the Bodies Are Buried
Wendell Potter is the health insurance industry's worst nightmare. He's a whistle-blower. Potter, the former chief spokesperson for insurance giant CIGNA, recently testified before Congress, "I saw how they confuse their customers and dump the sick—all so they can satisfy their Wall Street investors."
Potter was deeply involved in CIGNA and industrywide strategies for maintaining their profitable grip on U.S. health care. He told me: "The thing they fear most is a single-payer plan. They fear even the public insurance option being proposed; they'll pull out all the stops they can to defeat that to try to scare people into thinking that embracing a public health insurance option would lead down the slippery slope toward socialism ... putting a government bureaucrat between you and your doctor. They've used those talking points for years, and they've always worked."
In 2007, CIGNA denied a California teenager, Nataline Sarkisyan, coverage for a liver transplant. Her family went to the media. The California Nurses Association joined in. Under mounting pressure, CIGNA finally granted coverage for the procedure. But it was too late. Two hours later, Nataline died.
While visiting family in Tennessee, Potter stopped at a "medical expedition" in Wise, Va. People drove hours for free care from temporary clinics set up in animal stalls at the local fairground. Potter told me that weeks later, flying on a CIGNA corporate jet with the CEO: "I realized that someone's premiums were helping me to travel that way ... paying for my lunch on gold-trimmed china. I thought about those men and women I had seen in Wise County ... not having any idea [how] insurance executives lived." He decided he couldn't be an industry PR hack anymore.
Insurance executives and their Wall Street investors are addicted to massive profits and double-digit annual rate increases. To squeeze more profit, Potter says, if a person makes a major claim for coverage, the insurer will often scrutinize the person's original application, looking for any error that would allow it to cancel the policy. Likewise, if a small company's employees make too many claims, the insurer, Potter says, "very likely will jack up the rates so much that your employer has no alternative but to leave you and your co-workers without insurance."
This week, as the House and Senate introduce their health care bills, Potter warns, "One thing to remember is that the health insurance industry has been anticipating this debate on health care for many years ... they've been positioning themselves to get very close to influential members of Congress in both parties." Montana Sen. Max Baucus chairs the Senate Finance Committee, key for health care reform. Potter went on, "[T]he insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry and others in health care have donated ... millions of dollars to his campaigns over the past few years. But aside from money, it's relationships that count ... the insurance industry has hired scores and scores of lobbyists, many of whom have worked for members of Congress, and some who are former members of Congress."
The insurance industry and other health care interests are lobbying hard against a government-sponsored, nonprofit, public health insurance option, and are spending, according to The Washington Post, up to $1.4 million per day to sway Congress and public opinion.
Don't be fooled. Profit-driven insurance claim denials actually kill people, and Wendell Potter knows where the bodies are buried. His whistle-blowing may be just what's needed to dump what's sick in our health care system.
Denis Moynihan contributed research to this column.
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Show AllWhy blame all insurance companies just because one of them sucks so bad? Just move to another insurance company and there, problem solved. Single payer is just more big government while it looks good on the surface. Government did nothing on Hurricane Katrina and since there's no money to fund single payer, it's a bad idea. My company's insurance company is cool and they offer goodies and personal responsibility health care tips. Single payer doesn't offer any of that. There's already Medicare for that and Congress could just lower the age to 50 and for those below 50 give a $1000 tax rebate yearly to help pay your healthcare insurance provider if you're unemployed or your employer doesn't provide health care benefits.
Well, you are certainly earning whatever they're paying you to post these lies.
There's plenty of money to fund single payer. Right now it's going to the health insurance industry. When single payer is enacted, the US will save trillions over the following decade without the huge overhead of private insurance.
Your idea about Medicare is laughable. Tell your employers to come up with some better material for you.
q
"There's plenty of money to fund single payer."
Oh really ? What's the national debt again?
"Right now it's going to the health insurance industry."
Money comes from people and companies who choose to invest in that health insurance co. If you don't like one, find another or don't have health care. Don't expect big government to give you a handout.
I seee that you're just posting whatever crap comes into your head. You're not even being coherent. I take back what I said about your earning your keep.
q
q, this character is only pasting some Fox News talking points and obviously has a very weak understanding of the issues. You can't argue with ignorance. He has no idea that a trillion dollars a year could be saved by converting to a single-payer system.
There are a few government beasts enjoying their place at the tax-trough which could be starved to the betterment of us all. ALL taxes are socialist in that 'we' are taxed to pay for a service that (in theory) is supposed to benefit 'we the people'.
The money saved by ending the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and now Pakistan), the money saved by ending the ludicrous 'war on drugs', and the 'war on terror' (which is the main reason Katrina was met with such a poor response), as well as ending the semi-private Federal Reserve which attaches debt to every dollar printed (and handed over to private multinationals) are just a few things that could free up more than enough money to socialize health care.
If you don't like socialism, then you should protest the use of your tax dollars to defend your nation, bail out banks or industries, to fund the military seizure of resources from other nations (for the benefit of privately owned multinationals), or to protect your own property. Protect it yourself. While you're at it you should find some way to recycle or dispose of your own waste or provide clean drinking water using your own resources. You should shun public sanitation, public policing, public education, government itself, and any form of publicly owned property. Just make sure you get your cut when they privatize all of it and hand it over to multinationals (oh, too late for that).
You are clueless if you think that ANY government that has ever existed was justified for any other than socialist reasons. All governments and all laws are justified as being beneficial to everyone, rather than just a few. That these legal systems have been hijacked for the benefit of private interests does not end that argument. But even without repealing all of those things, we already pay more for health care in this country than others which have socialized their health care systems. There is enough money to do this even without ending wars, drug wars, or currency manipulation, and when the government claims that 'we can't pay for it' they are lying through their teeth.
"Provide for the common defense" and "Promote the general welfare". Can you guess where that came from?
Mr. Garfiled, you are in la la land.
"Mr. Garfiled, you are in la la land."
Hey, big government never knew how to spend wisely so what makes you think they'll get it right on single payer? Read your history dude. It's the people's money, not the government's money. Time for another load of TAX CUTS !
Read your history. The Government is OF the people.
People get together to form GOVERNMENTS and those Governments are mandated to act on the behalf of the people.
Oregoncharles
You don't care for democracy, eh?
What system do you prefer, fascism? A characteristic of fascism is when business rules government, which is pretty much what we have at this point. Senator Durbin said: "The banks own the place." That's the recipe.
70% of the American people have said in poll after poll that they prefer the kind of health care that other industrialized nations have - a single payer. The problem is our so called leaders prefer to add to the profits of the health insurance corporations at the expense of the American people. The US ranking of health outcomes is far down the list. Millions have no insurance at all.
You obviously have good health care and can pay for it. My child had a bone marrow transplant that saved his life. The insurance policy we had on him before he got sick went up to $16,000 a year. In other words they didn't want to have anything to do with him once he got sick. It's how and why the CEOs are so fabulously rich. Obviously we had to drop the insurance.
If you don't believe in democracy, love it or leave it. Otherwise, start campaigning to force your elected officials to do the will of We the People, not They the Corporations.
The American people and their elected representatives continually fail to utilize the testimony of insiders turned whistleblower. When Dubya's first (of three) treasury secretary Paul O'Neil resigned and blew the whistle in 2002, the US electorate and their elected representatives paid no attention and supported Dubya's criminal actions and policies (that O'Neil warned them about) for the subsequent six years of the Bush Regime.
Excuse me but "tax cuts" are what got this country into big deficits before the war spending added to it. If you really cared for the people's money then why do you support allowing the greedy health insurance companies to slop it all up? Did you even read HR 676? That bill would make sure that government got its spending under control. Even some ordinary conservatives understand that. How much cornfed meat and dough do you slop up a day to keep your brain clogged with stupidity ?
Garfield
It's time to pull your head out of your ass and come up for air.
I may eat my favorite beef lasagna dishes 3 times a week and enjoy my burgers a lot but it doesn't take a dope to know that government can't get its spending correct.
The numbers speak for themselves...private insurers cherry pick the lowest risk pools to insure at a 30% markup and government insures the highest risk pools at a 3% markup.
As Mr. Potter pointed out in his interview with Bill Moyers, insurance executives don't want to quit flying around in their corporate jets and eating lunch off gold plates, so don't expect the 30% markup to go anywhere but up.
If Laffing Garfield is pulling down a 6, 7 or 8 figure income and flying around in corporate jets, his position is understandable. If he is one of the many drones who drinks the corporate kool-aid and gets nothing in return, the laugh is on him.
And the insurance companies spend right? Doling out huge profits to shareholders; doling out enormous salaries and bonuses to employees for denying care; doling out bizillions to PR agencies that fool and mislead; having as their main purpose the making of money, period. The per capita waste in that industry far outweighs the per capita waste in the single-payer (Medicare) public sector.
Society one day might truly evolve into an egalitarian and compassionate one. But not if people continue to refuse to educate themselves in the ethical sciences. Those are the ones holding us back from progress in a positive direction.
If it is true that Laffing G is being paid by industry insiders, I don't think they're getting their money's worth. It would be interesting to know if he has seen whistleblower Wendell Potter's interview with Bill Moyers that aired on PBS last Friday, and what he thinks about it.
People like LG don't think.
Oregoncharles
Laffing Garfield, thank you for giving so many here the opportunity to defeat your arguments. You make it so easy.
The blame belongs to the system the companies function in. You set up a system with corporate personhood and laws to make CEO's always favor corporate profit, and people will die for fractional percentages on a quarterly profit-loss statement.
How big a fraction that might be is part of what actuaries crunch numbers all day to determine. It makes as much sense to say the company as callous as it does to say a rock is callous. The company involves humans, but it is not itself human; those percentages constitute its life and health.
I'm not sure if you're one of those insurance company trolls, or if you're just stupid. It's not just one insurance company that denies claims, that dumps the sick, that jacks up premiums if you make a claim; it's all of them.
If you have a single payer system, you don't worry about what 'pre-existing' condition you have; you're covered no matter what.
The gov't didn't do squat for Katrina because they were repukes. Arsebiters who believe that the gov't can't do anything, and prove it by doing nothing. (except page boys and mistresses)
Medicare would change from being single-payer if the insurance industry wins.
Personally, Garfield, I think you are just throwing the bull here; however, should your cool insurance company ever fail you, I can recommend a great veterinarian.
Well, don't knock veterinarians. Frankly, my dogs' vet has a better bedside manner than most MDs I've been to.
I sent Max Baucus an email asking for his consideration of the recent SPLC report on military recruiting. He sent me a response detailing (?) his response to the DHS report concerning domestic terrorism which was issued months ago. (I sent no email regarding the DHS report.) Nowhere did he mention, in his response, the SPLC report.
"Always good to hear from the folks back home," he said.
Just to let you know how much attention Baucus, one of the most powerful Congressmen in the healthcare debate, pays to the correspondence he gets from his constituents.
Baucus has made millions from the healthcare and insurance industries. He wants to raise taxes on the some of the poorest workers in the nation, his constituents, to keep his benefactors in limos and private jets. Single payer, public option, it makes no difference to Baucus. All that matters to him is keeping his pockets lined with contributions from those who profit from the misery of others.
My Congressman, David Scott, is just as bad, responding with boilerplate that's completely unrelated to whatever issues I mention in my emails. He's as big a whore as Baucus.
q
Sioux Rose
It would seem some attorneys could create a class action suit on behalf of those whose lives would have ostensibly been saved had they not been denied insurance. It's after all so inconvenient to actually have to pay for medical treatment when you (insurance companies) can otherwise merely collect a toll from every American citizen. All that power! Just to deny access! Like "free" trade, they might even call it "free medical trade."
D.C. is such an obvious cesspool where the revolving door allows those who get inside regulatory agencies to exit and enter the companies they were previously hired to regulate. That, added to the filthy money thrown at representatives thanks to an out of control lobby system (corporate style "free speech" in action where ONLY money talks) has completed the utter corruption of our government.
As BE FOR KIDS has repeatedly pointed out, this matter--that of access to humane health care--may be THE issue that unites an otherwise bitterly divided citizenry. Socialism doesn't mean shit to a tree if it's YOUR relative that needs the expensive surgery and your insurance company fiddles while your family's "personal Rome" burns. This issue definitely illustrates, live and in color, just how care-less our supposedly representative government has become. All the talk of defense spending? All the rationales that waste mega bucks on the world's most bloated military machine, while the REAL defense is required here at home, seen in how the nation's caregivers treat those in need. That report card gets an F-minus. Bombing other is not saving lives in the homeland security state!
$1.4 million a day. How many people are dying to provide that kind of money? On top of all the other money the insurance industry is stealing from us?
Wendell Potter should be a household name, but he's unheard of outside the Bill Moyers community. I'm beginning to think being inattentive and incurious are the two greatest dangers our democracy faces. There will always be forces trying to destroy it. What we need is an alert citizenry. We don't have one. I keep thinking back to what Horace Greeley said when asked if we should have a system of public education: "By all means teach them to read. Then we can tell them what to think". Looks like he got what he wanted. Actually our children are being taught not to think. I have an extremely bright 9 year old grandson who can barely read. What in the world is our school system doing? By the way, he understands all kinds of concepts, including gravity, magnetism and algebra, but he didn't learn any of that in school, his father is a scientist. Unfortunately he lives with his mother, who doesn't read to him and isn't making him read to her. I'm not blaming her, she's dyslexic but the schools never picked that up, so she was never diagnosed or got help for it. Our school system is a shambles and I don't think it's accidental. The last thing rulers want are wage slaves and cannon fodder that think for themselves.
Ignore that gasbag Laffing whatever. He copied and pasted his post from another thread. At age 35 (if so) he's stunningly ignorant or he's being paid to spout this nonsense. Either way, he's wasting space and distracting from thoughtful discussion. Perhaps that's the point of his existence.
At least Ron Paul is an intelligent Libertarian. These narcissistic idiots who think it's all about "me" are a pain in the Libertarian ass.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
"What in the world is our school system doing?"
I don't know how the school system is doing today but back in my time in the 1990s, teaching was a klutz and when I showed my inherent zeal to learn, I got laughed and poked fun at as a "nerdy girl". At one point, I was even threatened with a failing grade in the course if I didn't conform to their way of solving my algebra equations which usually resulted in more errors in sharp contrast to doing it another way from outside help. The problem with our school system is that it does not allow children to be self developing. I don't know if you have read George Lakoff's works but in the Strict Father Morality world view, children must obey and not ask questions whereas in the Nurturent Parenting world view, children have a right to not only ask questions but share what they've actually learned and we're not just talking about taking tests.
Let's apply this to the current health care mess. From school, since most students are conditioned into accepting the SFM world view, their desire to be creative and think freely is shut out. From there, Madison Avenue, Big Pharma, and Big Insurance will find it easier to brainwash the public with misinformation and even make loads of profit from doing it even at the public's expense. However, the public won't look at that expense and will instead blame government alone for everything.
It all starts from our younger years indeed.
First off I had pretty much the same thing happen to me back in the 70s in a math class. It was a calculus class, and I got the correct answer, showed on the test how I got the answer but it was marked wrong because I did not solve it as my teacher said I should have. That event must have had quite an impact on me because that really is about the only thing I remember from that class.
I completely agree with you on the SFM world view that is presented in public schools. That is probably one of the main reasons that rich people don't send their kids to public schools. They want their kids to be leaders not mindless followers.
I think that all the zero tolerance rules also play into that mindset. Check out this link to see some of the ridiculous ways kids are being dealt with in schools.
http://www.abanet.org/crimjust/juvjus/zerotolreport.html
I came out of high school with a pretty narrow view of the world. I became a registered Republican, and was pro death penalty. Then over the course of many years I re-educated myself and broadened my view of the world. I am now a full fledged unapologetic liberal.
Not all private schools are the same. Most of the religious ones teach students to be as narrow minded as possible. The rich are not only ignorant but proud to sellout and step all over the poor and the middle class. There have also been cases where rich people and their private school guidance counselors bribe colleges and universities with the biggest clout to accept their kids. No wonder schools like Harvard are hard to get into.
Excellent post on zero tolerance. That may be the perfect reason why troll boy "Laffing Garfield" has zero tolerance for single payer healthcare but idiotic support for insurance companies that would rip him off in a heartbeat. If schools really cared to enforce zero tolerance policies, they could extend this on to taking control of the corporate media feeding children cartoons and sleazy commercials filled with violence, corny talk, junk food seduction, etc ... Those kids in the article had to learn those bad ideas from unregulated sources. I would take Jennifer's post on SFM one step further. There's no tolerance for poor and defenseless kids and yet there's loads of nurturing for the highly paid corporate media. Conservatives love to nurture the rich and yet smash the poor and the middle class.
Has anyone seen how many schools force teachers to start the day-- they have no choice-- with students viewing "news" on Channel One?
I agree with you about all private schools not being the same, and religious ones turning out even narrower minded graduates. I was more thinking about elite prep schools and boarding schools when I mentioned about the rich not sending their kids to public schools.
Somewhere over the last few years I remember reading about a relatively poor kid that got a scholarship to one of those elite schools and he said it was quite an eye opening experience of how kids were taught there as apposed to the pubic schools he had been going to. There was more emphasis on leadership skills and learning things that made it clear to the students that they were not part unwashed masses.
Unfortunately I can't remember most of the details of the story. I read too much stuff and after a while it all starts blending together.
Tom, I identify with your statement about how you came out of high school. I was the same way, but that was also largely thanks to growing up in a very conservative family. I moved as far away as possible and changed my perspective and adopted very liberal views. Unfortunately, my family is still stuck- listening to Rush, opposed to "government-run" health care, scared of socialism.
Thanks for the link; I'll have more to read and think about.
I'm glad you made the "conversion", but sorry your family is still listing to Dusty Lint-ball. I wonder how much longer he can keep lying to people before the whole thing unravels on him and his listeners realize he's been BS'ing them all these years.
In some ways Rush is one very brave man. I always heard lying to, and misleading people who own guns is probably not a very bright idea.
A progressive friend who's a college professor had a discussion on health care with a class one day. When the students were asked whether they thought health care is a right or a privilege, the majority of them- without even thinking- automatically responded that it was a privilege. America has done well to brainwash its young people.
Wendell Potter and countless others like him are trying to fight a system that's rigged to sabotage anyone who questions it. As I replied to BeForKids, it all starts with the tainted education with a Strict Father Morality slant that our children are pushed into. Short of a massive catastrophe where all of a sudden everyone wakes up, I don't know what exactly it will take to reverse the brainwashing but I'm guessing there are many venues to try out.
Good points, sounds like you have read some George Lakoff
socialist, yes I have. I have gotten disappointed when Lakoff would write an article trying to make it look like the Democrats are parties of ideas and that they believe in the Nurturant Parenting Model. If that were the case, then why do people like Pelosi, Reid, Obama, etc ... of the Democrat leadership continue to persecute true progressives with the party such as Kucinich and the few like him? Kucinich and the few ought to do what Cynthia Mckinney did which was to leave the party and go Green, Mainstreet, outright Independent ala Sanders, etc ... Also, it's hard for me to completely agree with him that frames create ideas. Sometimes, I think that it's getting the idea first that's needed before one can frame it in this direction or that. Other than that, George Lakoff's writings on cognitive science and the power of framing are awesome.
J.Beddingfield:
"If that were the case, then why do people like Pelosi, Reid, Obama, etc ... of the Democrat leadership continue to persecute true progressives with the party such as Kucinich and the few like him?"
Good question; it seems Mr. Lakoff is only looking at the discourse of the two-party Duopoly. We know that the full spectrum of political discourse does not fit neatly into the "Nurturant Parent" or "Strict Father" model. It seems Mr. Lakoff himself has partially fallen into the discourse trap of the Duopoly.
However, I agree with you that his general contributions are great, especially to the growing inter-disciplinary field of discourse analysis.
Sioux Rose
SOCIALIST: Good points. Life is the great circle, not just a linear either/or equation!
I am afraid Ms.Goodman is too optimistic for me. MSM has control of what we read, see and hear. The medical lobbyists and corporate interests are entrenched in Washington and prepared to do battle all too well by spending lots and lots of cash. We can only act if we know where the battle is and what it is we are fighting to halt--We must be informed and that is not happening, and that is deliberate. We often do not find out what has been done until it has occurred. I still believe the 60's and 70's desire for activism exists, but those in politics then learned their lesson well and have been successful in dumbing down America. They do not want another Nixon revolt (Presidents after him have done far worse) or Vietnam shambles (Far worse covertly has occurred and then came Bush)and created the all volunteer service. We haven't stopped wanting control of our govt, but they have been smarter at stopping access. It will take more than this one whistle-blower to change anything.
Before we canonize the man, let's please remember something. Mr. Potter might have been characterized as a whistle blower had he done so while still working in the industry. By his own admission, he understood full well what CIGNA and other health insurers were up to while he was in their employ as a paid mouthpiece. Mr. Potter played an active role in enabling CIGNA in their duplicitous, draconian practices. His rationale then for not stepping up was that their actions just didn't register with him. "I was insulated" he says.
Mr. Potter admits he left CIGNA on good terms. I take that to mean he probably retired with hefty bonus, probably stock options, etc.
Notwithstanding, I'm glad that he is choosing to speak up now. Better late than never, but would that he had done so when there were patients at risk.
Mr. Potter, you need to scream it from the mountaintops, sir. People died on your watch and along with others in the Ivory towers at Cigna, you profited from that. You have lots of 'splainin' to do.
candrew, Potter wasn't aware of what were the results of his behavior until he went into that barn and saw real people coming in for treatment. It was like he was living in a dream state. He did not realize the suffering until he saw it first hand. He woke up and knew he could not continue being part of the industry, could not fly in luxury jets provided by the suffering of others. Give him credit. He quit and he testified against it. Like he said, until that moment he saw only numbers, not people with stories. He is making his amends and exposing himself and I honor him for that.
As NC Tom pointed out, people raised in privileged families have a very different educational experience and empathy is not part of it. This man made a rare leap to consciousness.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
BFK
Perhaps my judgement of Mr. Potter was a bit harsh. Now I'm asking you to cut me a little slack. I've spent my entire 32 year career as a health care provider and the last 27 of those for a non profit. I've been witness to the suffering caused by the likes of CIGNA and other for profit insurers denying necessary care and procedures. Mr. Potter might be a late addition to the team, but all the same, it's good to have him on our side.
Health care is one of those areas of human endeavor that should NOT be about profit.
LG sounds like a rightwing friend of my mother's. Last year I had to undergo major surgery to treat a condition which was causing chronic pain and making it increasingly difficult to walk (and almost impossible to work). I do not have health insurance- employer doesn't provide it, and I couldn't afford it. After tests gave me a diagnosis and I was told I needed surgery I went about finding out how to pay for it. The surgeon's office worked out a payment plan, required no money down. Anesthesiologists, however, wanted the money up front and I was told in no uncertain terms that, unless I paid up front, there would be no surgery. I asked my surgeon's office how they could do this and, unsurprised, they responded that my condition was not life threatening- and the surgery was considered "elective." Meanwhile, a friend of my mom's told me it was my own fault I didn't have health insurance-- because of "poor planning." (She, of course, has Medicare.) She said if I wanted to have health care like they have in Canada or France, I should move there. When she heard how much a family of 4 pays for health insurance these days, she questioned why people who can't afford children continue to have them. (This woman also considers herself a good Christian, opposes abortion, and regularly goes to church.) These are the types you can't reason with-- they feel nothing and don't think for themselves. She just listens to the BS she hears on rightwing radio shows, and blames a lot of our problems with health care --and other issues--on illegal immigrants. (of course, only the ones from Mexico)
Sorry NMLib - Since you can't pay the fees upfront, LG would advise you forego the anesthesia and bite down on a stick. That would be "conservative compassion".
Hey, we thought about that-- my friends offered to come to the OR with a bottle of whiskey and a leather strap for me to bite down on when they sliced me open.
Anyway, we figured out soon enough that anesthesiologists know they're likeliest to cause your death during a surgery, no matter how routine, so they would prefer you pay them ahead of time...just in case.
And here I am, still alive. Go figure, they must have done something right.
Well not quite. I would advise NMLib to first sit down, don't worry, be happy. Hey, shoulda read the agreement first and found ways to avoid that kind of an injury way ahead of time. I watch the news on Fox news, msnbc, cnn, abc, and cbs but nothing on single payer shows up. I do hear the gop attacking socialized medicine. I haven't taken the issues seriously. Besides news though since it can get boring, I watch shows such as Desperate Housewives, The Office, Army Wives, sport shows such as football games and nascar racing, and plenty of cartoon shows such as Garfield & Friends (my favorite), Life With Louie, Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, Alvin and the Chipmunks, the Simpsons, etc ... Some of the cartoons are from the TV and some from the internet (as long as big government doesn't get in the way of video sharing). I also eat a lot and I'm not doing so bad myself. And now, I await my strombolis and soda I just ordered as I gearing up for another couple of Scooby Doobee Doo episodes. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !!! MORE FOOD !! MORE CARTOONS !! MORE TAX CUTS !! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !!!
What "agreement" are you talking about? If you're referring to why I had surgery, it was related to illness- not injury- and the only treatment to heal me was surgery.
Now you can give the computer back to your mother and go back to watching Scooby Doo.
"What "agreement" are you talking about? If you're referring to why I had surgery, it was related to illness- not injury- and the only treatment to heal me was surgery."
Hey, since you weren't tied to any one insurance provider, all you had to do was switch to one which would accept for your case. It's easy and it's all online. Easy as 1-2-3 !
"Now you can give the computer back to your mother and go back to watching Scooby Doo."
I live alone in an apartment. Now if I could just get a chick to cook and clean so I could enjoy being more of a couch potato.