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WTF: No More Troops in Afghanistan?
It's encouraging that General Jim Jones, the national security adviser, seems to have laid down the law to US generals in Afghanistan: no more troops.
That's not the same as less troops, but it's a start.
In a lengthy Washington Post report, Jones is quoted extensively telling the generals that economic development in Afghanistan will win the fight with the Taliban, not more soldiers. And he used rather colorful language to make his point. During the meeting with Jones, General Nicholson, the US commander, dropped hints that he'd like more forces. Here's the Post account:
Jones recalled how Obama had initially decided to deploy additional forces this year. "At a table much like this," Jones said, referring to the polished wood table in the White House Situation Room, "the president's principals met and agreed to recommend 17,000 more troops for Afghanistan." The principals -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; Gates; Mullen; and the director of national intelligence, Dennis C. Blair -- made this recommendation in February during the first full month of the Obama administration. The president approved the deployments, which included Nicholson's Marines.Soon after that, Jones said, the principals told the president, "oops," we need an additional 4,000 to help train the Afghan army.
"They then said, 'If you do all that, we think we can turn this around,' " Jones said, reminding the Marines here that the president had quickly approved and publicly announced the additional 4,000.
Now suppose you're the president, Jones told them, and the requests come into the White House for yet more forces. How do you think Obama might look at this? Jones asked, casting his eyes around the colonels. How do you think he might feel?
Jones let the question hang in the air-conditioned, fluorescent-lighted room. Nicholson and the colonels said nothing.
Well, Jones went on, after all those additional troops, 17,000 plus 4,000 more, if there were new requests for force now, the president would quite likely have "a Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moment." Everyone in the room caught the phonetic reference to WTF -- which in the military and elsewhere means "What the [expletive]?"
The Post added that the generals seemed "to blanch at the unambiguous message that this might be all the troops they were going to get."
It seems significant to me that Jones did this in public, with a reporter in the room, rather than privately, since it does commit the administration to an end to the escalation in Afghanistan. (Or else we can all say: WTF?)
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Show AllAt least General Jones is thinking rationally, or at least in part. The US relies heavily on air power with high civilian casualties. History has shown time and again, that this sort of imperial aggression and occupation does not work, especially in Afghanistan.
21,000 more troops. A big uptick in violence, especially in Helmland province. Photo ops of the poppy crops being destroyed. More refugees. More tribal awakenings in loose alliance with the Americans. The Taliban disperse again, to regroup again later again.
Maybe once that cycle has run its course, Barack will declare victory, the NY Times will congratulate him for doing war right, and then we can bring the troops back home where they always belonged.
Bill from Saginaw
Deepa
"$2,000 For A Dead Afghan Child, $100,000 For Any American Who Died Killing It"
By Jay Janson
01 July, 2009
Opednews
http://www.countercurrents.org/janson010709.htm
"After Obama apologized for the strike which the Afghan government claimed killed well over a hundred ordinary country folk, came the report that the families of those killed, and subsequent Afghani dead falling in harms way of the US military, continuing as before, can apply to receive up to $2,000 compensation. This is the price the great United States of American puts on an Afghan or Pakistan human being, while awarding $100,000 to families of Americans who die while fighting and killing wherever."
"Shocking? Shame provoking? Embarrassing that no Afghani or Pakistani child or parent has any human right at all, including the right not to be blown to pieces in a US drone air strike? - the final insult being the value of their lives put at a mere $2,000...."
Sioux Rose
DEEPA: The naked numbers reveal a troubling ugliness. I recall an article in "Harper's" some years ago that examined the value system used by insurance claims' adjusters. The life of a white male with a good job was the premium, and everything else departed from that "standard" and was reflected in "the lesser cost (or should I say value) of a life." It's pretty obscene, this monetary measure of human life; but of course it's more obscene that the U.S. is inside of a nation in pursuit of its assets and strategic position, and thereby murdering "enemies" faster than it can roll out the propaganda presses.
Bullshit. This doesn't commit the generals or Obama to anything. The event was public-- for shaping the message... which Dreyfuss willingly punts back into the middle of the field.
Wait until mid-August. That's where this will all stack up. Right now, it's just political posture to keep the public and the Nation at Obama's court side.
(Or else we can all say: WTF?)
Can I be the first?
WTF.
Maybe the Generals don't get it, but without the continued military occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq, the 'private military contractors' will go bust. Fast.
If your choice was Peace, or the perpetual flow of billions of dollars into your greedy little pockets, what would you do?
In a lengthy Washington Post report, Jones is quoted extensively telling the generals that economic development in Afghanistan will win the fight with the Taliban, not more soldiers.
Watch your back, Mr. President. Hire a food taster. And remember John F. Kennedy. This is not the kind of thing the MIC wants to hear (presuming it's true at all).
It is surprising that Drefyuss did not acknowledge that in all likelihood air power will be increased in Afghanistan as well as in Iraq to compensate for the number of troops leaving those countries. This, of course, means more innocent civilians will continue to be slaughtered as American firepower must be seen and felt inn order to continue to instill fear among the populace. American militarism will not abate just because less soldiers will be seen in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The report comes along as the Grand Imperial Wizardly Homeland unleashes its next wave of stormtroopers on those places "infested" with "insurgents" in Operation Khanjar, "Strike of the Sword" (I always wonder what fertile little arseholes in the Great Beast's entrails think up these names).
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iqyaFh_efr-brDq0rMLF1hkop0tgD995VCR00
'The governor of Helmand province predicted the operation would be "very effective."
"The security forces will build bases to provide security for the local people so that they can carry out every activity with this favorable background, and take their lives forward in peace," Gov. Gulab Mangal said in a Pentagon press release.'
I.e., kiss your babies goodnight and goodbye.