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No Peace from Netanyahu
Israel's prime minister called for talks without preconditions while imposing conditions that would make peace impossible
"Eight nos, but nothing new." This is the reaction I hear over and over again from Palestinian refugees here in Lebanon's Wavel Refugee Camp, where four generations wait to return to the homeland from which they were brutally evicted over 60 years ago, in response to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's so-called landmark policy speech.
This is from those who even bothered to listen.
The US and Europe saw his speech as a move towards recognising two states (while dismissing the right of return, a divided Jerusalem and an end to settlements, and the list goes on) and thus some sort of advance towards peace; others suggested it was a step backward.
Both analyses are flawed. One confuses a call for a Palestinian ghetto as a call for a sovereign, viable Palestinian state. The other is based on the assumption that progress was made over the past (few) decades vis a vis Palestinian statehood.
The speech was full of rosy conjectures. The word "peace" was repeated 45 times.
Tellingly, the word occupation was not mentioned once. Neither, for that matter, was international law. Or freedom - except in the context of facilitating some freedom of movement only after Palestinians give up their rights to move freely.
"Peace has always been our people's most ardent desire," he explained, citing three "immense" challenges that stood in the way (the Iranian threat, the economic crisis and the advancement of peace).
In fact, it is an illegal, draconian and malicious occupation that has stifled peace and continues to pose the biggest threat to Israel's security.
In his speech, Netanyahu called for negotiations without preconditions while simultaneously imposing the conditions that would make a just and viable peace impossible: an undivided Jerusalem, no right of return, no sovereignty, continued settlement expansion.
The demands to recognise Israel as a Jewish state annuls the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes from which they were systemically and violently expelled in 1948 in what is now Israel - a right enshrined in international law and at the heart of the Palestinian struggle.
Such a state would promote, subsidise and allow Jewish-only immigration and rights as it does now while denying native inhabitants this same right.
Nations are quick to dismiss the Palestinian right of return, but equally quick to facilitate the return of Darfur, Kosovan, or East Timor refugees in recent years.
This demand also consolidates Israel's discriminatory policies, and would dismiss in one fell swoop the rights of the Palestinian minority in Israel, who make up 20% of the population. It is effectively saying: we have the right to discriminate against you, to take any measures we deem necessary in order to sustain the Jewish majority. Such measures have already been suggested in the Knesset, like a loyalty oath, even population transfer.
Then there is talk of the illegal settlements. New settlements aren't the issue. Who needs new settlements if Israeli loophole policies in recent years have provided ample room for expansion?
Currently the illegal annexation barrier, together with settlement-related infrastructure (including settler-only roads, army bases, closed military zones and more than 600 checkpoints) consume 38% of the West Bank, annexing land and livelihoods, dividing villages, towns, and families from one another and tearing apart the very fabric of Palestinian social and economic life.
So, we have not moved forward. But we are certainly a step backwards from the heyday of Oslo, some might say. The fact is, during the Oslo years from 1993 to 2000, four under Netanyahu's reign, the Israeli settler population expanded by 71%.
Such policies are already being implemented in Jerusalem, where land theft and demolitions continue daily, and where Palestinian Christian and Muslim residents are subject to draconian laws that would strip them of their residency rights there if they fail to renew their ID cards regularly.
Netanyahu's vision of a Palestinian states is bereft of the very factors that make a state sovereign: effective control over land, sky, and sea, among other things. But this should come as no surprise. Israel's longstanding policy has been one of repackaging the occupation and postponing viable Palestinian statehood indefinitely by rendering it impossible.
It is a goal summed up by the late Israeli sociologist, Baruch Kimmerling, as politicide: a gradual but systematic attempt to cause their annihilation as an independent political and social entity. In tune with this policy, nowhere in Oslo is there mention of a Palestinian state, only limited self-rule. Netanyahu's own Likud party's charter flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Neither is Hamas the issue, with whom Netanyahu foreswore talks. It has not even elected prior to 2006. It did not even exist before 1987. But it enjoys broad support among Palestinians; it was rightfully elected in free and fair elections encouraged and unhindered by the US and Israel respectively; and it is deeply entrenched within society; it is a reality with which Israel must come to grips.
And long before Hamas, Israel was similarly destroying civilian infrastructure, assassinating Palestinians, closing borders, de-developing the economy and sowing lawlessness and chaos in Gaza; all punishment for not being "co-operative" enough; "moderate" enough; tame enough.
All of this, of course, is leaving aside the 1.5 million human beings consigned to a life of living death by Israel and its allies - and by allies I also mean the Arab world. Closed in on all sides, deliberately deprived of the most basics rights of life.
Even after the so-called disengagement from Gaza, the landmark event that supposedly reigned freedom unto Gaza and its people, Israel continued to maintain effective control over Gaza's borders, her air, sea, sky, even the population registry; and continued to impose a longstanding siege. This despite warnings from experts about the dire consequences that would ensue by not guaranteeing movement and access to people and goods. Gaza faced poverty and unemployment unprecedented in 40 years since Israel's occupation as a result.
But by Netanyahu's estimates, this is peace. Gaza is the model - the vision - for what a so-called Palestinian state would look like. In his article for Comment is free, Progress in the Peace Process, Jeremy Sharon said that if the Palestinian national movement is to make any progress, its "maximalist demands may have to be walked back".
The trouble is, Sharon's maximalist demands are another's minimalism: Palestinians have already conceded 78% of their historic homeland in favour of the two-state land for peace deal (I am a proponent of a one-state solution, with equal rights for all, as are increasingly many others).
Netanyahu talked idyllically of a peace in which a tourism-driven economy would draw millions to Nazareth and Bethlehem. He forgot to mention the caveat that tourists would first have to face an apartheid barrier twice the size of the Berlin wall, navigate a Kafkaesque matrix of Israeli administrative control and, if they carry the wrong colour ID, scale sewers if they desire to visit a family member across the way in East Jerusalem.
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36 Comments so far
Show AllWhy would any sane person put even a mustard-seed's worth of faith in a speech about peace by an Israeli zionist leader?
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Nope.
from wiki:
here's grampa: "Netanyahu's father, Nathan Mileikowsky, used to sign some of his articles with the name Netanyahu. It was a common practice for Zionist activists at the time to adopt a Hebrew name, and his son Benzion eventually adopted this family name. Following the same practice, Benzion Netanyahu occasionally wrote under the name "Nitay". When his son Benjamin Netanyahu lived in the United States, he needed a name Americans could easily pronounce; he chose "Ben Nitay".
"Upon arrival in Israel, he tried to start a political career, but failed. At the time, his opinions were considered radical right wing, even by Menachem Begin"
bibi's brother -Yonatan Netanyahu: commando and terrorist - killed during the idf raid at entebbe airfield in uganda - an international crime in itself
as for Bibi -from ha'raetz feb2009: "Netanyahu failed as prime minister. He deliberately slowed down the peace process and sowed conflict and strife between groups and communities in Israeli society. He is sticking to the ideology that has been guiding him for more than two decades - vehement objection to dividing the land and establishing a Palestinian state. In this election campaign, Netanyahu has announced that he would not evacuate settlements and not pull out of the Golan, and supported Avigdor Lieberman's demand for a declaration of loyalty as a condition for citizenship.
Netanyahu's positions and the Likud's extreme Knesset list guarantee the perpetuation of the occupation and the settlements (under the guise of "economic peace"), and bode poorly for Israel's international status. His policy will lead Israel to a confrontation with Barack Obama's administration, which seeks to advance the two-state solution"
yes this is truly a man of peace - not
he is a psychotic murderer who has been living a mad man's life for 50 years
stone cold killer
three generations of zionist mad men
sort of like the bush's:
sam bush: great-grandaddy - warprofiteer from ww1
prescott bush: grandaddy: banker to the nazis
bush daddy: cia hack, terrorist, loser of the presdiency to clinton and gore - to whom he referred to as "a couple of bozos"
rascist and eugenics acolyte - we all remember the willie horton ads
finally: bush baby - brain lesioned psychophant - benefactor of two stolen elections and overseeer of the destruction of the constitution, bill of rights and geneva convention
once these pshyco families get going - there's no stopping them
The Bushes are the most predatory family in American history. They put the Hearsts, Rockefellers, and Vanderbilts to shame.
q
no q - can't agree with that
the bush's are the bagmen for the real culprits - whose names you list
they are the ones who ruined the country
the bush's are nothing but blow boys - 10 cents hacks
the hearsts, rockefellers, and vanderbilts are the blow boys for the true evil rulers - the rothschld banking/debt machine
its all relative
we are all working for rothschilds
and we all pay more taxes than them as well
The Rothschilds are not American.
q
Laila El-Haddad simply presents an impossibility. Israel will never agree to commit suicide as a nation by agreeing to a "return" This is self evident and only a fool would expect it to happen.
She states she is a proponent of a one state solution, but she surely knows that is impossible. She states the usual litany of abuses but honestly adds the Arab nations to that list.
She calls for Israel to come to grips with the reality of Hamas, but continues to deny the reality of Israel.
I don't see any chance of a solution which is a sad thing for all involved.
Yes, Zionists will no doubt piss away the one-state solution like they did the two-state solution.
If you don't see any chance for a solution, why don't you just pack up your bags and leave?
After all, Israel is nothing more than an immoral and illegal invasion, and I applaud those resisting their genocidal oppression.
"If you don't see any chance for a solution, why don't you just pack up your bags and leave?"
'zactly! Can't believe I didn't think of this one.
repeat - apologies
???
There's a whole slew of realities Israel has been denying, as well.
Let Israel eat some realities for a change, maybe some of her own invention. Nobody's falling for the Leon Uris romance/fantasy anymore.
Liars always lose - eventually. Sympathy is growing for the Palestinians. Soon it will be an irresistible force, and Israel will have to be realisitic about her own lies.
I'm just sorry it's taking so long.
"There's a whole slew of realities Israel has been denying, as well."
No question about it. Till they both realize that neither is going to get everything they want, that the Palestinians are not going away, that Isreal will never agree to "a return" and won't even talk till they are recognized..........
It is a true shame and it simply doesn't look like any solution is in sight.
I see the only resolution possible, maybe within my lifetime.
You live by the sword.
You die by the sword.
It's a shame, really.
Let us hope not. There has been far too much killing already.
What's REALLY bad is when the people at the root of the killing bemoan the killing they have caused.
Gee, Palestinians are mad about not being able to defend themselves. Wonder why.
As an aside, take this cnn poll on whether you support Israel or Gaza. http://www.israel-vs-palestine.com/gz/
Sorry, CNN is hardly a credible or serious source of information.
Bibis 'readiness to talk about peace' is merely another stalling tactic. Various Israeli governments have been stalling (with US assistance) for 50 years.
As far back as Moshe Dayan who said Israel should tell the Palestinians: "We have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where this process leads."
Or General Haim Bar-Lev a leading figure in the labor party who wrote: "we can have peace, but I think if we continue to hold out we can have more." So do they want peace? Yes a piece of Syria, a piece of Egypt, a piece of Jordan...
Or my favorite: Let’s quote the father of modern Israel, David Ben-Gurion who noted, but not for publication, that: "In our polititcal argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us, but let us not ignore the truth among ourselves. The truth is that politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves...the country is theirs because they inhabit it. Whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside."
Or a quote by the illustrous Milwaukee grandmother Golda Meir: "It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist." Maybe she didn't read what Ben-Gurion wrote. maybe they're all delusional.
One nice thing about the Israeli leadership over the years is that they're seldom reluctant to tell everybody what they intend to do.
Did "Bibi" exclaim "Sieg und Heil" at the beginning, or end, of his speech?
from ma g above:
"he [Nethanhayu] is a psychotic murderer who has been living a mad man's life for 50 years
stone cold killer" precisely
Yeah ol' Nuttyahoo is a deranged, racist imperialist of the worst kind. But hey, now Obama can play "good cop" and ol Nutty can play "bad cop" in the phony charade of pretending to care about "peace". What a joke. For those of us over 35 years old this charade has happened many times before, and things only get worse for Palestinians.
However time is not on the side of the racist Apartheid state...
It's important to see what is really going on here.
Israel's president proposes the most fatuously cynical offer yet in this long history of fatuously cynical crap.
He also refuses to stop multiplying like a cancer in the West Bank.
And the US President smiles and calls it progress.
WHO elected that clown, anyway?
Wall Street, AIPAC et al. (and other corporate interests like BigPharma) elected him that's who, just like all of our presidents, Senators, and most House reps.
What Netanyahu offers is some kind of Theresienstad, a 21th century ghetto ruled by the benevolent government of Israel, showing all the world how good the Palestinians are being taken care of. I'm sorry to drag WWII into this, but if this wasn't Israel playing the Übermensch-game, everybody would be making these unfortunate comparisons.
Yes indeed, and the Palestinians are clearly treated as the "Untermenschen"; the "Other" to focus hatred on, this works like a charm for political mobilization of the Uebermenshen in group. The Israeli Far Right see this very clearly. Too bad very few others can.
Agreed: Bibi's 'offer' is disingenuous, utterly cynical, and just another sadistic insult to displaced Palestinians.
But in the 10th paragraph down, the article's author seems to ignore the fact the Israel nevertheless was created by international law -- via UN Mandate in 1948.
However much a mistake that UN Mandate was, nothing is gained by trying to re-write history on this point.
Ah, the magically appearing and disappearing UN.
When it comes to obeying UN resolutions, the UN is an anti-Semitic organization, and we don't have to follow them.
When it comes to the formation of Israel, the UN is wonderful.
Zionists are hypocrites of the highest order.
OK - as far as I'm concerned, the UN immorally if not illegally established Israel, which is nothing more than an illegal and immoral invasion.
But the UN did not guarantee it's further existence.
Wanderer,
Okay, then I guess all the other states formed out of the Turkish empire are also to be abolished?
Even YOU realize that this is irrelevant on so many levels.
You Zionists will say anything to see if it sticks.
Not at all. Israel has as much right to exist as any other state in the region. You idiots will always deny that Israel has a right to exist, because you are jew haters. You just want the arabs to finish hitler's work. admit it.
FINALLY!
The anti-Semitic claim.
Jews haters? Yeah, sure - if you hate Jews but support Israel, then Jews don't call you anti-Semitic or Jew-hater. They call you their friend.
But if you believe in the rights of human dignity of Jews and ALL people including Palestinians, then Jews call you a Jew-hater.
Zionism is a moral monstrosity. That cannot be understated.
Good point, it is pretty sad, morally reprehensible and unacceptable, in bad taste, inapropriate and desperate to call folks (whether they are Jewish or not) "anti-Semetic Jew haters" for criticizing racist imperialist Apartheid. This just reflects the desperation of Zionists who have no rational justification for crimes against humanity. Oh, did I mention, the height of Hypocrisy? Just a reflection of the lack of any moral framework of Zionism, which is an imperialist racist ideology pure and simple.
Norman Finkelstein talks and writes about this at length.
“Not at all. Israel has as much right to exist as any other state in the region. You idiots will always deny that Israel has a right to exist, because you are jew haters. You just want the arabs to finish hitler's work. admit it.”
I agree. Israel, now that it is a state, has as much right to exist and the same perogatives as any other state. Full stop. We can argue what ‘right’ any state has to exist at another time.
But states are judged by their collective actions, and actions have consequences. And if you regard the actions of the Israeli state say in the last 30 years or so, (some will say from 1948) those actions are not particularly admirable or legal.
The Israeli state has prosecuted war and currently occupies land conquered by war – illegal in international law – and have snubbed all UN resolutions demanding their retreat back to their ‘legal’ borders while refusing to grant to the Palestinian people that which the Israeli people demand as their ‘right’ - abetted in this occupation by the US. The first principle of law is that rights have corresponding obligations. Israel has legitimate rights to security, self-identity, etc., but it also has the obligation to grant those same rights to others - including the Palestinians who were ousted from the land Israel now occupies - for whatever reason, and by whatever means they were ousted.
The first principle of ethics is that whatever rights (and their corresponding obligations) you claim for yourself must be granted to all. Would any Israeli exchange places with any Palestinian? I doubt it. That's the ethical test. Or am I anti-semitic for saying so? Or an idiot?
Arguing that the threat against Israel is an ‘existential’ one is pure moonshine – like arguing that a handful of nuts in Afghani caves are an existential threat to the US. Israel has the fifth most potent military in the world, and somewher over 200 nukes – ask Vanunu if you don’t think so, he’s out of jail now after 17 years for revealing just that in Israel's 'democracy'.
Israel could have had true peace decades ago, but it wanted more – evidenced by its obdurate policies, the ‘settlements’, cruel tactics, murderous reaction to any resistance including collective punishment - also against international law (and by the way one of the reasons Nazis were put in the dock), subsuming all of Jerusalem into its territory, and the ‘security wall’ cutting off access to what is not their territory – whomever it may belong to.
You must admit, maybe you don't or won’t, that Israel’s actions: illegal occupation, refusal of the right of return of the previous inhabitants – or compensation for what was taken, ‘wholesale’ state-terrorism – as opposed to the ‘retail’ small-time (but still very real) terrorism of their enemies are problematic and counter productive to what it claims it wants.
Israel's refusal to curtail and/or rollback settlement construction is a time bomb waiting to explode. It has created an internal schism between the 'middle-eastern Jews' who lived in peace with their Arab neighbors in what was Palestine for centuries, and the 'european Jews' who showed up since 1948 and now occupy the settlements and, along with the orthodox religious Jews, are the largest and most aggressive impediment to any peaceful settlement of the conflict. Israel will have one hell of a time working that one out - even without the Palestinian complication. As I suggested earlier, actions have consequences.
If things progress as they seem they may, Israel will be the one to finish hitler’s work – first on whom they perceive as their enemies, then on themselves.
As long as the Empire trumps the UN and other international law, there is no true rule of law.
Bibi's ideal of peace is ethnic cleansing. His personal bounds on how many can die to achieve are certainly higher than what he thinks he can get away with.
Pre-penultimate organizational scourges of current world:
1. corporate Capitalist polities
2. doctrinal religion polities
Penultimate scourge:
3. polities in which 1 & 2 are interwoven
Arguable ultimate scourge:
4. international alliances between type #3's