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The Obama Haters’ Silent Enablers
When a Fox News anchor, reacting to his own network's surging e-mail traffic, warns urgently on-camera of a rise in hate-filled, "amped up" Americans who are "taking the extra step and getting the gun out," maybe we should listen. He has better sources in that underground than most.
The anchor was Shepard Smith, speaking after Wednesday's mayhem at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Unlike the bloviators at his network and elsewhere on cable, Smith is famous for his highly caffeinated news-reading, not any political agenda. But very occasionally - notably during Hurricane Katrina - he hits the Howard Beale mad-as-hell wall. Joining those at Fox who routinely disregard the network's "We report, you decide" mantra, he both reported and decided, loudly.
What he reported was this: his e-mail from viewers had "become more and more frightening" in recent months, dating back to the election season. From Wednesday alone, he "could read a hundred" messages spewing "hate that's not based in fact," much of it about Barack Obama and some of it sharing the museum gunman's canard that the president was not a naturally born citizen. These are Americans "out there in a scary place," Smith said.
Then he brought up another recent gunman: "If you're one who believes that abortion is murder, at what point do you go out and kill someone who's performing abortions?" An answer, he said, was provided by Dr. George Tiller's killer. He went on: "If you are one who believes these sorts of things about the president of the United States ..." He left the rest of that chilling sentence unsaid.
These are extraordinary words to hear on Fox. The network's highest-rated star, Bill O'Reilly, had assailed Tiller, calling him "Tiller the baby killer" and likening him to the Nazis, on 29 of his shows before the doctor was murdered at his church in Kansas. O'Reilly was unrepentant, stating that only "pro-abortion zealots and Fox News haters" would link him to the crime. But now another Fox star, while stopping short of blaming O'Reilly, was breaching his network's brand of political correctness: he tied the far-right loners who had gotten their guns out in Wichita and Washington to the mounting fury of Obama haters.
What is this fury about? In his scant 145 days in office, the new president has not remotely matched the Bush record in deficit creation. Nor has he repealed the right to bear arms or exacerbated the wars he inherited. He has tried more than his predecessor ever did to reach across the aisle. But none of that seems to matter. A sizable minority of Americans is irrationally fearful of the fast-moving generational, cultural and racial turnover Obama embodies - indeed, of the 21st century itself. That minority is now getting angrier in inverse relationship to his popularity with the vast majority of the country. Change can be frightening and traumatic, especially if it's not change you can believe in.
We don't know whether the tiny subset of domestic terrorists in this crowd is egged on by political or media demagogues - though we do tend to assume that foreign jihadists respond like Pavlov's dogs to the words of their most fanatical leaders and polemicists. But well before the latest murderers struck - well before another "antigovernment" Obama hater went on a cop-killing rampage in Pittsburgh in April - there have been indications that this rage could spiral out of control.
This was evident during the campaign, when hotheads greeted Obama's name with "Treason!" and "Terrorist!" at G.O.P. rallies. At first the McCain-Palin campaign fed the anger with accusations that Obama was "palling around with terrorists." But later John McCain thought better of it and defended his opponent's honor to a town-hall participant who vented her fears of the Democrats' "Arab" candidate. Although two neo-Nazi skinheads were arrested in an assassination plot against Obama two weeks before Election Day, the fever broke after McCain exercised leadership.
That honeymoon, if it was one, is over. Conservatives have legitimate ideological beefs with Obama, rightly expressed in sharp language. But the invective in some quarters has unmistakably amped up. The writer Camille Paglia, a political independent and confessed talk-radio fan, detected a shift toward paranoia in the air waves by mid-May. When "the tone darkens toward a rhetoric of purgation and annihilation," she observed in Salon, "there is reason for alarm." She cited a "joke" repeated by a Rush Limbaugh fill-in host, a talk-radio jock from Dallas of all places, about how "any U.S. soldier" who found himself with only two bullets in an elevator with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Osama bin Laden would use both shots to assassinate Pelosi and then strangle Reid and bin Laden.
This homicide-saturated vituperation is endemic among mini-Limbaughs. Glenn Beck has dipped into O'Reilly's Holocaust analogies to liken Obama's policy on stem-cell research to the eugenics that led to "the final solution" and the quest for "a master race." After James von Brunn's rampage at the Holocaust museum, Beck rushed onto Fox News to describe the Obama-hating killer as a "lone gunman nutjob." Yet in the same show Beck also said von Brunn was a symptom that "the pot in America is boiling," as if Beck himself were not the boiling pot cheering the kettle on.
But hyperbole from the usual suspects in the entertainment arena of TV and radio is not the whole story. What's startling is the spillover of this poison into the conservative political establishment. Saul Anuzis, a former Michigan G.O.P. chairman who ran for the party's national chairmanship this year, seriously suggested in April that Republicans should stop calling Obama a socialist because "it no longer has the negative connotation it had 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago." Anuzis pushed "fascism" instead, because "everybody still thinks that's a bad thing." He didn't seem to grasp that "fascism" is nonsensical as a description of the Obama administration or that there might be a risk in slurring a president with a word that most find "bad" because it evokes a mass-murderer like Hitler.
The Anuzis "fascism" solution to the Obama problem has caught fire. The president's nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court and his speech in Cairo have only exacerbated the ugliness. The venomous personal attacks on Sotomayor have little to do with the 3,000-plus cases she's adjudicated in nearly 17 years on the bench or her thoughts about the judgment of "a wise Latina woman." She has been tarred as a member of "the Latino KKK" (by the former Republican presidential candidate Tom Tancredo), as well as a racist and a David Duke (by Limbaugh), and portrayed, in a bizarre two-for-one ethnic caricature, as a slant-eyed Asian on the cover of National Review. Uniting all these insults is an aggrieved note of white victimization only a shade less explicit than that in von Brunn's white supremacist screeds.
Obama's Cairo address, meanwhile, prompted over-the-top accusations reminiscent of those campaign rally cries of "Treason!" It was a prominent former Reagan defense official, Frank Gaffney, not some fringe crackpot, who accused Obama in The Washington Times of engaging "in the most consequential bait-and-switch since Adolf Hitler duped Neville Chamberlain." He claimed that the president - a lifelong Christian - "may still be" a Muslim and is aligned with "the dangerous global movement known as the Muslim Brotherhood." Gaffney linked Obama by innuendo with Islamic "charities" that "have been convicted of providing material support for terrorism."
If this isn't a handy rationalization for another lone nutjob to take the law into his own hands against a supposed terrorism supporter, what is? Any such nutjob can easily grab a weapon. Gun enthusiasts have been on a shopping spree since the election, with some areas of our country reporting percentage sales increases in the mid-to-high double digits, recession be damned.
The question, Shepard Smith said on Fox last week, is "if there is really a way to put a hold on" those who might run amok. We're not about to repeal the First or Second Amendments. Hard-core haters resolutely dismiss any "mainstream media" debunking of their conspiracy theories. The only voices that might penetrate their alternative reality - I emphasize might - belong to conservative leaders with the guts and clout to step up as McCain did last fall. Where are they? The genteel public debate in right-leaning intellectual circles about the conservative movement's future will be buried by history if these insistent alarms are met with silence.
It's typical of this dereliction of responsibility that when the Department of Homeland Security released a plausible (and, tragically, prescient) report about far-right domestic terrorism two months ago, the conservative response was to trash it as "the height of insult," in the words of the G.O.P. chairman Michael Steele. But as Smith also said last week, Homeland Security was "warning us for a reason."
No matter. Last week it was business as usual, as Republican leaders nattered ad infinitum over the juvenile rivalry of Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich at the party's big Washington fund-raiser. Few if any mentioned, let alone questioned, the ominous script delivered by the actor Jon Voight with the G.O.P. imprimatur at that same event. Voight's devout wish was to "bring an end to this false prophet Obama."
This kind of rhetoric, with its pseudo-Scriptural call to action, is toxic. It is getting louder each day of the Obama presidency. No one, not even Fox News viewers, can say they weren't warned.- Posted in


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Show AllRich notes: "That honeymoon, if it was one, is over. Conservatives have legitimate ideological beefs with Obama, rightly expressed in sharp language. But the invective in some quarters has unmistakably amped up."
Rich lives in a dream world or he is sadly out of touch with the authentic progressive movement. But taking a look at his bio shows he is interminably linked to the corporate status quo and duopoly. Obama's problems are more serious than anything Rich tells; apparently he is too wrapped up in his own gig to recognize that the authentic progressives are clamoring for Obama's head. The invective is going up exponentially on the left (not just the right) with every sell out made by Obama including war escalation, FISA and TARP, perpetual occupation of Iraq, clean coal, et al.
Rich is nothing more than another courtier to his handlers in the status quo. Yawn.
It doesn't sound like you read the article. Don't get me wrong, you make a lot of great points, and are actually correct in your statements. But it just doesn't go with the article.
But at least you are speaking the truth none-the-less
I agree; Rich writes well within the pre-approved frames and narratives of the Duopoly. He either is unable to see beyond this, or is unwilling.
Rich and his ilk, Obama-fawning sycophants, attempt to paint a picture of Obama as hated for being a progressive which couldn't be further from the truth. He is hated by right-wing nuts because they are just that, not because he is a socialist or even a progressive.
During his inauguration speech, Obama tried to place equal blame on society and the financial elites that caused the crisis we are in. Obama talked of "workers who would rather cut their hours than see a friend lose their job," while asking Wall St Fat Cats to sacrifice nothing.
This is absurd as we know, but the well-heeled and complacent Frank Rich, living in a separate reality, buys into this notion and promotes it.
"He personifies a flabby, self-indulgent liberalism. Distant from the working class, circulating among the semi-intellectual and semi-serious in Manhattan, Rich has now determined that the American population must make "far larger sacrifices." -WSWS.org
It's convenient that every time the Democrats move to the right, the Republicans move even further to the right so as not to make the Democrats look, well, too Republican.
yup, R= racist far-right; D=moderate right with a smiley face
Wow, that is some conclusion you draw from this article. What are you really reading, Dr. Seuss? The point is understated in your case but made nonetheless.
Obama:
Impeachment?
Texas Recall? (Dallas 63)
In the 1920's, 40,000 Protestant ministers belonged to the KKK.
Fundamentalism is intrinsically linked to militarism.
While Christian fundamentalism originated in the North and Midwest, its rise in the teens and twenties of last century really blossomed in the South. 1918-1931. Also from this time period was the formulation of anti-evolution theory argued as part of cultural identity.(1)
It may be of no interest to some here, but evangelical revivalist, antimodernist biblical readings appealed to both African-Americans and white Protestants alike. When the white evangelicals decided to take their form of Protestant religion into fundamentalism (militarism) which excluded blacks(2), I think it divided what should have been an allegiance of great significance. The KKK and the extreme militarism of fundamentalists dominated far too many Southern whites.
We must not forget this Christian cultural conservatism of anti-modernist doctrine goes very deep in Southern African-American history too. Obama exploited it during the election cycle running the exact same "bible belt tour" George W Bush did in 2004.
Donny McClurkin and Barack Obama stirred it up for a little while and gained serious criticism from a few outspoken African-Americans(3). Gays and pro-choice folks managed to overlook and even justify these event as tactically essential.(4)
I think there is a risk of a serious backlash in 2012 if the cultural trends continue, and Obama may very well find a higher percentage of African-American evangelicals voting culture over politics -leaving him high and dry.
Christian fundamentalism is as crafty as the GOP and has been restructuring over the last decade. There's a reason M Steele is out front stirring it up at the disappointment of the moderate conservative crowd. One should not expect the stereotypical KKK and Aryan Nation/Butler's disciples to dominate the ground swell, even while media channels play into the extreme examples of the Neo-Nazi in the crowd.
1) http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/book_detail?title_id=1513
2) http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst?docId=5005987461
3) http://earlofarihutchinson.blogspot.com/2007_10_20_archive.html
4) http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/gay-voters-take-note/
Sioux Rose
The trend towards domestic violence or plans instrumented by small militia groups increases around Memorial Day 2010 and into June. Watch for all sorts of explosions, or one, in particular that grabs the news.
Sure, get yourself worked up about another Jewish Holocaust story but forget about the American Holocaust that in terms of sheer numbers was 19 times worse and still continues under your noses.
We want to burn witches again. We want to lynch people again. We want to see hundreds of searchlights piercing the sky as the masses march to the beat of rolling drums. We want to get on that old Death Trip that's as American as apple pie.
Why bother watching Faux Noise anyway? We all know what it is and what it isn't already. Besides, Shepard Smith can switch to another news outlet silently and get it over with. Faux Noise was always meant to be a "be nice to the Republicans or else" channel.
JenniferBedingfield, Hi, wow, things can change, or at least I hope I have-
I recall our different pov's re bo and Ralph Nader.....well....you were right and I was wrong. I'll vote for RN unless a better 3rd party truth evolves. I now think Obama is a liar, that he sucks as a person.
Anyway, wanted to say something right, given our contexts....
Hope you are most well back there in Missouri, joe.
Hi azjoe,
Thank you and glad to see you again. I wished Obama would do something right. I've seen his minor accomplishments but overall, he's gotten worse on the financial and foreign policy fronts at least up to mid May though I have yet to see what he's done after that. I understand what you went through when you voted for Obama. My parents were the same, well actually worse since they voted for Dubya twice before going Obama since they thought Palin was too trashy and that Mccain supported amnesty which they oppose. I don't take the Obama haters on the Far Right seriously as they're probably faking all this to cover up their actual satisfaction of him doing their dirty work. I don't hate a pol but can despise their actions.
Frank Rich is right about incitement to violence leading to violence. What he does not discuss is the societal factors. Economic and social desperation in the Mideast make people feel hopeless and they do desperate things - terrorists. We are starting to see that here as well. People always look for someone to blame and the right wingnuts are pointing their fingers at Obama.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Sioux Rose
BE FOR KIDS: Totally on. Of course it's so inconvenient to speak of causes when effects alone produce so much titillation.
Come on. Obama sucks. But relative to the pigs rolling in sh** joy the gop would be enjoying w/ mccain-wolf shooting palin attacking Iran, cutting taxes for the rich and appointing Yoo to the Supreme Court, they are hating life.
It's easy for Obama detractors, and I've become one, to villify him with absolutes. But things could be worse,
OR BETTER, if you are a rethuglickin, as Voight clearly states, lamenting, pining, moaning for "the way we were," sic, under bush & cheney!
Obama sucks. But I'm glad cheney is not glaring at me through a camera lens, or the illiterate 'decider,' telling me to go F*** myself in butchered English while updrafting wealth and gutting the Constitution.
What 3rd party candidate is organizing, mobilizing now? It is sure time. And I'd sure like to help.
The U.S. is now a terribly confused and frightened nation.
America's great love of capitalism with its roots in consumerism is now being questioned on so many fronts. With the loss of the '08 election, the media talking heads that speak for the piggy authoritative capitalistic Right are in full panic, producing a lot of crazy thoughts.
To my utter amazement, with the financial collapse and so much U.S. waging of war on the world, the progressive Left still remains a subdued minority voice within the democratic party. Thanks to the MSM, most Americans are culturally brain dead. The window of opportunity for radical systemic change is now closing. The great lesson to be learned by progressives is that radical social change can never come from the top, it must come from below. You cannot put all your eggs in one basket as many have with President Obama.
To me, this must be the first genuine historic clash for the soul of America. But the American way of life still reins supreme. American exceptionalism still remains a delusion. So America continues to sleep.
The powers that be, those who financially control the U.S., have won. Wall Street has been saved. The collapse of financial capitalism was too bitter a pill for our Congress to swallow.
It now seems apparent that the whole U.S. Empire that is designed for financial control of the world must collapse before all of America wakes up. Only then I believe will Americans get off their lazy butts and realize that full blown participatory democracy is the only answer to the greed of capitalism that denies the common good.
Sadly, because of the American way of life, the vast majority of Americans have been really too selfish to put their faith and energy in democracy for the common good. Hopefully, the next time they will see it that way.
" ... canard that the president was not a naturally born citizen."
Has he ever produced a birth certificate? It should be an easy task, and after all, the presidency does require that the president be an American citizen. I can show you my original birth certificate. Why cannot Obama?
"Nor has he repealed the right to bear arms or exacerbated the wars he inherited."
What the hell are you talking about? He has NOT reduced forces in Iraq, he has escalated the war in Afghanistan and has fomented civil war in Nuclear armed Pakistan.
"He didn't seem to grasp that "fascism" is nonsensical as a description of the Obama administration"
Fascism is an accurate description for both the Bush and Obama administrations.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
What else could you call the bank bailout. Certainly not republicanism, as in "a republic", certainly not democracy, and certainly not government by, of and for the people. I really should have stopped reading your article at this point but its like trying to look away from a train wreck.
"We're not about to repeal the First or Second Amendments."
You might want to google "Obama" and "preventive detention".
Hear, hear. The thing consistent from Republican rule to Democratic rule is that the pressure on American citizens continues to go up. Sure, lots of people are going to commit suicide, some quietly, some not. But this demand that the only solution needed is more loyalty to a president who has done nothing to earn it ... train wreck.
Wait, I don't have a show on FOX or a column in the NYT. Does that make me a "silent enabler?"
EKATON, the height and breadth of your disingenuousness is simply amazing.
You state, "Has he ever produced a birth certificate? It should be an easy task, and after all, the presidency does require that the president be an American citizen. I can show you my original birth certificate. Why cannot Obama?"
In answer, YES, he has produced a Birth Certificate. The fact you decide to spread such false rumors shows either that you're unwilling to look at those facts, or that you simply couldn't care less, and are an eager and willing participant in demagoguery and lies. The following websites clearly debunk your lie:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
In response to the author of the article's contention that the Obama administration has not "repealed the right to bear arms or exacerbated the wars [they] inherited" you stated, "What the hell are you talking about? He has NOT reduced forces in Iraq, he has escalated the war in Afghanistan and has fomented civil war in Nuclear armed Pakistan."
First, it's notable that you completely and utterly avoid the first clause of the statement, that Obama's administration hasn't repealed the right to bear arms. However, you do deal with the second clause of that statement, but you both exagerate and lie about the facts surrounding the issue of that statement. Obama hasn't reduced the forces in Iraq YET. You, however, equate that to some fantasy that he will NEVER reduce them. You also falsely claim he's "escalated" the war in Afghanistan. You can't produce a single shred of evidence for this, yet you seem more than willing to make this statement, which can only mean you're aim is to deceive. You also say Obama has "fomented civil war in...Pakistan." Please, tell me how he's done this. Give specifics. I know you're not able to, but I will ask anyway.
Finally, you create this complete fantasy in your head that the Obama administration is a FASCIST regime because of the bailouts, many of them undertaken long before he was in office. Your logic on this would be completely faulty even if he had been the one who began them, because a FASCIST regime wouldn't be taking over "failed" industries to save them, they'd be taking over "successful" industries to control them.
Get a life, moron. You're precisely what's wrong with this country in many ways. You're indicative of the ignorant, stupid, racist, bigoted minority who the American people have overwhelmingly rejected. You are a pathetic non-factor in America today. Realize that, and slap yourself upside your puss-filled head. If I were beside you, I'd do it for you.
Thank you, hotnuke. Too many on this site are among the craziest, bitchiest, least interested in fact checking...
"The fact you decide to spread such false rumors shows either that you're unwilling to look at those facts, or that you simply couldn't care less, and are an eager and willing participant in demagoguery and lies."
What lie? I simply asked a question. What is your problem?
"Obama hasn't reduced the forces in Iraq YET. You, however, equate that to some fantasy that he will NEVER reduce them."
You assume a lot. You ascribed a lot to me in your entire message that I did not state or imply but that you INFERRED, assuming you could read the thoughts behind my written words, and THAT is something that I find happens way too much here on CD.
YET? NEVER? Those are YOUR words, and how do you know what is going to happen and when?
You chide me because I quoted a complete sentence instead of the clause I chose to address? I have no idea what or if Obama plans to do anything regarding guns. Perhaps you know, since you seem to be clairvoyant.
As for the war in Afghanistan, do you not consider adding 20,000 troops an escalation of the war? If not, what is it?
Civil war in Pakistan? Come on, don't pretend to be so naive. He has applied pressure to his puppet government in Pakistan to mount attacks agains their own people, claiming that "terrorists" are holed up in the Swat valley. There are now something like 1.5 million internal refugees inside pakistan. Okay, its NOT a civil war and Pakistan is NOT nuclear armed. Please redefine for me exactly what is happening in Pakistan and why.
As for the banks situtation, I call it a fascist power grab. Call it what you will.
"Get a life, moron. You're precisely what's wrong with this country in many ways. You're indicative of the ignorant, stupid, racist, bigoted minority who the American people have overwhelmingly rejected. You are a pathetic non-factor in America today. Realize that, and slap yourself upside your puss-filled head. If I were beside you, I'd do it for you."
Thank you for the ad hominem attack. It just adds SO much to the discussion.
Oh, by the way, did you bother to google "Obama" and "preventive detention"?
Probably not.
FR doesn't go deep enough here - RWEs have been feed a steady, nonstop diet of hate and fear since 911 with one major connective theme: Muslims are evil.
Brainwashing: The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a specific belief or motivation.
IOW, an RWE receives concentrated persuasion (Muslims, and also liberals, are evil) for 8 YEARS via his only sources of "information" - FOX, wingnut radio and websties etc, then wakes up one morning and learns that an EVIL MUSLIM LIBERAL is occupying our White House - and he's already killing babies and marrying gays and bowing to kings...
What's a locked-and-loaded RWE to do... esp. after the Evil Muslim Liberal forecloses on his house and sends his job to China and announces plans to release more Evil Muslims in the suburbs...?
Frank Rich wrote:
"What is this fury about? In his scant 145 days in office, the new president has not remotely matched the Bush record in deficit creation. Nor has he repealed the right to bear arms or exacerbated the wars he inherited."
HOW MUCH did the Bush administration increase the deficit by within the first 145 days in office? It's easy to say that Obama has increased it by less, but it's better to provide both figures; really.
Not repealing the right to bear arms? How sure can we be about that, if what the following article says is true and the government obtains compliance, after which it goes further; like to demand that all of the VFW weapons, including functional as well as even non-functional guns, be handed over to the government, f.e.? To ban the right to bear arms when people are already armed would require what measure? I guess it'd require confiscation by the government, and this would require an inventory list of what arms people possess; after which the government would demand for these weapons to be handed over to the government.
Iow, it's not likely that the government would come right out and tell a population of around 330mn people of whom many, perhaps a serious majority, are armed that they suddenly are banned from bearing arms. That might get armed people a little upset, say, so the government would, instead, take a more gradual and discrete approach, one trying to avoid detection as much as possible.
And I guess places like VFW facilities and homes, as well as homes of all inactive or reservist military members, would be a first place(s) to start with gradually disarming the population. After all, many of the VFW's members are people who served in combat, war-zone combat, and therefore know how to use guns against other people; whereas most average citizens have never raised a gun at anyone, only pointing them at dummy targets. And most of the latter would have pistols, I guess; given most urbanites with guns aren't wilderness hunters and would, therefore, be less likely to have rifles, which are a little more difficult to keep concealed in populated areas.
Enough with that theory stuff and on with the article.
"Government Demands Inventory of All VFW Weapons",
by Kurt Nimmo, June 10, 2009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13931
EXCERPT:
An Infowars reader has passed along an email sent to VFW commanders by the Assistant Adjutant of the Department of Texas Veterans of Foreign Wars indicating the U.S. Army TACOM (Tactical Army Command) is demanding an inventory of all weapons held by VFW posts.
“While you may have had possession of this equipment for 20, 40, 60 or 100 years,” the email states, “it still belongs to the U.S. Military.”
...
TACOM is not simply interested in blank firing devices and antique rifles and pistols, however. “Weapons and Equipment consist of but is not limited to, Rifles, Pistols, Mortars, Artillery, Tanks, Vehicles, Aircraft, Missiles, Aircraft Carriers (sic), etc, from any period.”
...
The inventory of weapons at VFW posts is further evidence the government does not trust veterans, even with antiquated and non-functioning military equipment used primarily for display and historical purposes.
Last month the government took the unprecedented step of requiring soldiers at Fort Campbell in Kentucky to disclose all of their privately owned weapons and gun licenses.
“Military officials insist the policy is not connected to a recent controversial Department of Homeland Security report that warned disgruntled veterans could pose a national security threat. Rather, the inventory of private guns is aimed at stemming what the Army claims is an increasing number of accidental discharges by gun-toting soldiers,” NewsMax reported on May 5. [4]WorldNetDaily [5] reported that Fort Bliss in Texas had informed soldiers who live off the premises to provide descriptions, serial numbers, calibers, makes and models of any of the guns they own privately.
END OF EXCERPTS
I can understand the very latter bit, because there have been a serious number of extremely unfortunate acts of violence committed by evidently very PTSD'd troops back from Iraq and possibly Afghanistan. But the VFW's non-functional, so practically unusable, arms? And did the veterans back from Iraq who committed gun shootings in the U.S. get these weapons from VFW facilities and repair the unusable guns; or maybe stole some usable guns from there? They could just as easily walk into any gun shop in the U.S. and buy guns right off the street, based on what I've read about how easy it is.
This guy gets his information from Newsmax and WorldZNetDaily. 'Nuff said. The ONLY people reading those sites are twisted, ignorant, Right-Wing, Neo-Fascist wackos. Or I should qualify that. The only people reading those sites and BELIEVING ONE FRIGGIN WORD THAT'S PRINTED THERE are...lol I myself occasionally check them out to see what lunacy the fringe Right-Wing wackos are spewing...lmao
Once again, thank you, hotnuke. For a great many years I've enjoyed Common Dreams, but without people like you, the time may come when I simply refuse to read the comments.
The US (Obama) is working vigorously behind the scenes to prevent the Iraqi Congress from holding a referendum on the security pact (Status of Forces Agreement), that allows the US to remain in Iraq until Dec. 2011. If Iraqis get to vote they will almost assuredly reject the pact and embarrass the empire by making them pack up sooner.
That, coupled with Obama's selection of Bush's War Secretary, Robert Gates, his escalation of the War in Afghanistan (17,000+ troops), his increase in military spending, his decision to fight the court-ordered release of sealed photographic evidence of US military personnel torturing Iraqis, frequent incursions into and bombings of Pakistan, dishonest dealings with the Palestinians, and his aggressive stance toward North Korea, paints a grim picture of Obama as the equal of Bush. Two chicken hawks worthy of each other.
Since you and your Hotnuke buddy appear to be so misinformed, maybe the both of you should start doing some fact-checking on your own before you post your ignorant and unenlightened opinions.
Ric, just because Obama is not the second coming of Christ (PBUH) is no reason to throw mud at myself or hotnuke. The "facts" being discussed involved the idea of Obama repealing the right to bear arms. Did you read anything you are commenting on? Where are you coming from? Is your mind unable to follow logic?
Dear Greg, the comment I was responding to was made by hotnuke:
"Obama hasn't reduced the forces in Iraq YET. You, however, equate that to some fantasy that he will NEVER reduce them. You also falsely claim he's "escalated" the war in Afghanistan."
You then responded, "Thank you, hotnuke. Too many on this site are among the craziest, bitchiest, least interested in fact checking..."
The fact Obama has escalated the war is well beyond obvious. One need not be a logician, philosopher or mathematician, to comprehend that. Did I miss something my friend?
"hotnuke June 14th, 2009 6:33 pm
EKATON, ....
You state, ....
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In response to the author of the article's contention that the Obama administration has not "repealed the right to bear arms or exacerbated the wars [they] inherited" you stated, "What the hell are you talking about? He has NOT reduced forces in Iraq, he has escalated the war in Afghanistan and has fomented civil war in Nuclear armed Pakistan."
First, it's notable that you completely and utterly avoid the first clause of the statement, that Obama's administration hasn't repealed the right to bear arms. However, you do deal with the second clause of that statement, but you both exagerate and lie about the facts surrounding the issue of that statement. Obama hasn't reduced the forces in Iraq YET. You, however, equate that to some fantasy that he will NEVER reduce them. You also falsely claim he's "escalated" the war in Afghanistan. You can't produce a single shred of evidence for this, yet you seem more than willing to make this statement, which can only mean you're aim is to deceive. You also say Obama has "fomented civil war in...Pakistan." Please, tell me how he's done this. Give specifics. I know you're not able to, but I will ask anyway."
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IT'S been well enough determined that the Obama administration does not truly plan to reduce hold on Iraq in any near time-frame. U.S. military officers, of the command kind, say the U.S. will be in Iraq and Afghanistan for at least another ten years, and this has been sufficiently reported by different writers. However, even without what these military officials say we can realise for ourselves that the Obama administration is not going to be really withdrawing from Iraq, and if it does reduce troops numbers, then it will likely increase "security" contractors, that is, mercenary force numbers.
The Obama administration hasn't given up the illegally, criminally established U.S. embassy in Iraq, the largest embassy in the world, the size of Vatican City, and is planning on establishing a massive embassy and a consulate in Pakistan. And the U.S. has been constructing large or massive military bases in Afghanistan. Etcetera.
There are plenty of adequately reported facts. We simply need to be able to "connect the dots" like being able to assemble puzzles in order to determine what they provide for complete picture, and when we do this we arrive at the agenda of eventual "global dominance", aka "full spectrum dominance". It's an agenda that's been obvious enough for years, but there are still people who don't and others who refuse to see this.
Don't bother pretending that we can expect the Obama or any other U.S. presidential administration to come right out and make the secret agendas that nevertheless are discernable (by attentive people possessing critical minds and real, unbiased honesty) publicly known. They are not going to tell us any more than most professional criminals would go around telling the public about their crimes; past and planned for the future.
It's rather obvious that the Obama administration does [not] plan on any real withdrawal from the targeted countries in these GWoT wars.
And yes, there's been reporting on the tensions the Obama administration's actions in Pakistan have been causing for the Pakistani populace; and this involves more than only the major criminality of the U.S. and the Pakistani governments have been doing in the north, Swat Valley. Just because very few such reports have been republished at CD doesn't mean that they don't exist; and don't blame others if you do not put enough effort to read from other providers, that is, websites. I provide plenty of links in posts at CD, but people also have to spend some time seriously reading from multiple websites, as well.
hotnuke, you also haven't addressed "the first clause of the statement, that Obama's administration hasn't repealed the right to bear arms". So, what do you have to say about that clause? Is he or not making any moves related or potentially related to repealing the right to bear arms, according to what you've gathered? I posted an excerpt from and link for an article about what's being done with the VFW, but the article doesn't say that the actions described are for eventually ordering that all arms, functional and non-functional, at VFW facilities and homes be handed over to the government. What the article describes might, however, be an initial step towards eventually enforcing that the arms at VFW centers and personally owned by VFW members be handed over.
Whenever there is a process, there is a start and, eventually, an end, and there are related changes that occur along the way. Is the Obama administration working towards eventually repealing the right to bear arms? I will not guess that the answer is "yes", but can't say that it's "no", either.
The Obama administration has been certainly heightening militarisation of North America, anyway; like the Canada-U.S. border, f.e.
Frank Rich added:
"He", Obama, "has tried more than his predecessor ever did to reach across the aisle. But none of that seems to matter. A sizable minority of Americans is irrationally fearful of the fast-moving generational, cultural and racial turnover Obama embodies - indeed, of the 21st century itself."
THAT SOUNDS or seems like a bunch of crap and propaganda of bs. From what I've gathered, Obama hasn't gained popularity since becoming President, he's lost popularity and has struck fear and anger in the hearts of plenty of his electoral supporters.
I don't think Obama is a or "the fast-moving generational, cultural and racial turnover", for while there's a racial difference in the U.S. presidency, this about the only real difference that can be spoken of; the rest is as usual.
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This getting to a point that if President Obama " I hope and pray it does not happen", but if he were shot, there would be riots from Coast to Coast and Marshall law would be declared - very scary and I can't for the life of me understand how viewers are taken in by Fox News Pundits like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and radio Talk Host Goons like Rush, Limbaugh, and Mike Savage, believe these media "Goofs". It shows a lack of intelligence and common sense for sure.
I don't understand why Republicans are upset about Obama or why Democrats are excited about him so far. It boggles my mind. Republicans should see that he is just carrying on almost all of George W. Bush/ Dick Cheney's policies and be happy. If they were happy about perpetual war, police-state measures, loss of personal freedom, the shredding and total abolishment of the Constitution and the rule of law, the extremely fascist integration of corporate control into our government and government control of corporations, etc. under Bush/Cheney, why are they upset when Obama continues this? On the other hand, liberals...I don't understand how you can support this man when he is only carrying on the policies from the Bush/Cheney administration that you all hated so much and yet somehow you credit him with "changing" anything? He has escalated the wars, intensified the corporate bailouts which so many of you were so upset about when Bush did it, he has continued to disregard the Constitution and the rule of law even though he was a Constitutional law professor (he knows the law, just doesn't care), etc.
In conclusion, America...Republicans and Democrats might as well be the same party. They call themselves different names, claim to have different ideologies, they use different animals for their logos, but at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself who do they represent? It is obvious that for a long time now, both parties have been more interested in representing the wealthy elite of this country and the rest of the world in fact over the basic needs of the American people. The sad thing is, there doesn't have to be only two political parties. There can be 8 or 16 or 237. There is no limit other than the laws which...surprise surprise, the Republicans and Democrats passed together which make it hard for any other parties to get on the ballot. In most states, if you register as a Republican or Democrat, you get on the ballot automatically with just the money it costs. If you register as anything else, you also need to gather thousands or tens of thousands of signatures, which if you think about it makes it much more difficult for any 3rd party candidate, because they have to spend all of their time gathering signatures to get on the ballot while the Republicrats get to spend their time getting their message out to the voters.
If you want real CHANGE, change the laws that basically have locked us into a 2 party duopoly. At least let the 3rd party candidates have a fair shot at winning an election.
"I don't understand why Republicans are upset about Obama or why Democrats are excited about him so far."
Look for the puppet strings. They flash in the light occasionally. Frank Rich is a plant in the audience, seat reserved by his NYT press credentials. He shrieks when the strings flash to distract your attention.
As always, Rich writes compellingly; his citations show he thinks carefully about what he writes. However, the real question is, how serious is this uptick in right-wing fanaticism?
I think the real problem is that conservatives are being forced into emotionally wrenching world-views by their leaders, like Limbaugh and his right-wing competitors, and Gingrich and Cheney. For one thing, the "life begins at conception" theory is more and more forcing conservatives to contemplate the ineluctibility of using violent means to protect the lives of "children" from the moment of conception. The right-wing leaders also validate and underline, by between the lines innuendo, the fact that a member of the sub-human, Biblically-condemned group known as "Niggers" now runs the country. I know this to be a fact because of the way some of my own relatives continue ranting about Obama, even after he's shown himself to be almost a clone of, say Kerry or Gore or even Clinton (I don't think he's a clone of Bush).
I don't view all this in the apocalyptic way Rich seems to. The overall crime rate isn't going up, despite the recession. Assassination plots against Obama don't seem to be a bigger problem than the threats to earlier presidents. The response to the frenzy on the right includes a lot of reasonable counter-argument -- Rich's included. But those of us hoping to salvage this program (in theory, at least) of human rights, civil liberties, and justice known as the U.S.A. must not forget the old adage that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, no matter from what quarter the danger comes.
The pathetic part is that Obama has hardly given them a reason to hate him. He pretty much fills Bush's shoes. Those on the far Right who "hate" Obama based on some kind of partisan sports event are as clueless as Democratic partisans who rally and defend him even when his policies mirror Bush's.
Obama made a big campaign issue and attacked McCain for suggesting to tax medical benefits. This past weekend I caught a clip of McCain laughing that he's noticed that Obama had switched sides on that and a host of other things. He grinned like "he who laughs last laughs best".
Are the Bush tax cuts still standing? But Obama now seeks to tax working Americans whose standard of living is sliding?
Good enough reasons to me to "hate" Obama--based on fact not team spirit.
What happened to Jon Voight anyway?
Maybe he needs to watch his own performance in "Conrack" again to get some perspective because he has gone off the deep end.
Obama is black. (Half-Black) He looks black regardless. That is all the reason these people need to hate him.
The people that voted for and supported bush are a bunch of racist, greedy, religious radical, warmongers. Christians as a whole hate everyone and everything. This stems from their own self-loathing and non-existent self esteem. (Tiny dog syndrome) Once they become a servant of their "God", they can commit acts of violence as an outlet for their inner turmoil. It's OK because it's "in the name of God". Once they have regressed to the point of violence, they can claim self-rightousness and martyrdom. Since they are going to "heaven" (or some special dimension, whatever their book says) there is no need for self-preservation.
This is how religious persons justify their violent acts and hatred. Since Obama "looks black" and has a name that "sounds middle eastern", he is despised regardless of his policies or actions.
Actually, Frank Gaffney IS a flaming nutjob. Watch him froth on the talk shows. He repeats himself like a severe OCD victim and conjurs enemies and demons like a major paranoid. He's way gone.
Even granted that rightist nut jobs and envious Republicans attack Obama and that what he says makes somewhat more sense than what they say, Obama and the Demos are sending the bombs right now, and have asked for more money to send more.
The enemy of our enemy is not always our friend.