Defense Budget Shell Game
On April 15, large, angry and somewhat wacky crowds of Republican-backed and Fox News-supported "tea party" protesters joined the usual groups of more sedate and earnest peace activists to demonstrate against President Barack Obama's proposed 2010 budget
Whether they were mad about deficit spending and high taxes or military spending, Obama's budget of $3.55 trillion is a lot of money.
Much of those trillions are oriented toward trying to fix the problems of almost a decade of corporations-can-do-no-wrong profligacy. There is a lot to applaud in the budget, like increased spending on healthcare, education and developing sustainable energy. But there are still huge military outlays. Obama's first Department of Defense budget requests $534 billion in spending, continuing a decade-long trend of uninterrupted increases. (Indeed, under Bush, the Pentagon's baseline budget rose by 82 percent between FY 2002 and FY 2009, adjusted for inflation.) On April 6, Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced the detailed budget with a small bit of fanfare, declaring that his budget is intended to "reshape the priorities of America's defense establishment," and that his recommendations will "profoundly reform how this department does business."
Devil's in the details
Despite those buzzy action words, Gates' announcement was pretty cut and dry--a white-haired man reading from a sheaf of paper and responding to questions. For the most part, the cuts he proposed were not dramatic in that they were "budget neutral." Savings from deciding not to order any more F-22 Raptors goes towards production of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. There is (maybe) one fewer DDG-1000 Zumwalt destroyer, but no change in funding for the Virginia Class attack submarine.
There were some actual cuts to big ticket items. Star Wars missile defense programs were cut by $1.4 billion, retaining more than $9 billion a year in spending on what is left of Reagan's fantastic promise to render nuclear weapons "impotent and obsolete." The Army's Future Combat System (FCS)--the troubled system of systems designed to link together armed soldiers, robotic sensors and combat vehicles with a sophisticated communications network--will be cut by $770 million, as Gates axes the vehicle component. Voicing his frustration about cost over-runs and setbacks, Gates did raise the specter of canning the whole $87 billion program if significant restructuring was not successful.
Looking carefully at the Pentagon budget, Miriam Pemberton, a military budget expert with the Institute for Policy Studies, estimates that the proposals shave between $8.6 and $10.3 billion from weapons procurement funds. If those cuts can be sustained, and if whole programs like FCS are canceled, the savings could total $98 billion eventually. That would actually edge us towards the sweeping rhetoric that accompanied the announcement.
Congress up in arms
But between here and there is a hornet's nest of Congressional parochialism, with Democrats and Republicans lining up behind their friendly neighborhood military contractor and predicting fundamental compromises to our national security as a result of these cuts. Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), called Gates' budget the "disarming of America." The axed vehicle in the FCS was supposed to be partially built in Oklahoma. Inhofe received $121,700 in defense industry campaign contributions in the 2007-2008 election cycle.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) accuses Gates of being "willing to sacrifice the lives of American military men and women for the sake of domestic programs favored by President Obama." Parts for the F-22 Raptor are built in Georgia. Chambliss received $140,300 in campaign contributions from the defense industry in the 2008 cycle.
Six senators sent Secretary Gates a letter protesting the proposed missile defense cuts and predicting they "could undermine our emerging missile defense capabilities to protect the United States against a growing threat." Together, the senators received more than $855,000 from the defense industry in the 2008 cycle.
All of these protesting members of Congress cite the jobs supported by weapons programs. But according to the University of Massachusetts' Political Economy Research Institute, an investment of $1 billion in defense creates 8,555 jobs and $564.5 million wages and benefits. That same amount, invested in education, creates 17,687 jobs and $1.3 billion in wages and benefits. A Lockheed Martin machinist can't become a social studies teacher overnight, but transitioning people from military production to more useful sectors of the economy is not rocket science, and the benefits are lasting.
GWOT becomes 'Overseas Contingency Operations'
Not only is this budget larger than the Bush administration's last budget; it is just part of the picture. It does not include the full costs of ongoing wars. At the end of March the Washington Post reported that the Defense Department's office of security review sent a memo to Pentagon employees saying, "this administration prefers to avoid using the term 'Long War' or 'Global War on Terror' [GWOT.] Please use 'Overseas Contingency Operation.' " Members of the Obama administration quickly fell in line, with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Director Peter Orszag winning the prize for using it most often. But whatever one calls it, it is expensive.
As of October last year, total costs for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan totaled $864 billion. Now it is President Obama's turn to add to that number. In Obama's first and--he insists in the OMB release--last "planned war supplemental" before these "costs are accounted for in the budget" the White House is requesting $83.4 billion for ongoing military, diplomatic and intelligence operations. Of this, $75.5 billion is for costs related to military operations and intelligence activities in Iraq and Afghanistan. Added into this mix are funds for four more F-22 Raptors (which extends the life of the weapons program that Secretary Gates just axed to save money). The rest--$7.1 billion--is allocated for international affairs and stabilization activities in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the globe, including economic assistance to Georgia, counter-narcotics programs in Mexico, security assistance in Lebanon and many other budget lines.
Once passed, Obama's war supplemental will bring the total cost of "overseas contingency operations" since President Bush's October 7, 2001, invasion of Afghanistan to $947 billion.
While it is a positive move to bring war funding into the budget routine, this does not mean the United States will stop spending billions a month any time soon. Military operations in Afghanistan--where Obama is surging U.S. forces--have so far cost more than $170 billion, an average of more than $20 billion per year. Spending will rise significantly as the United States sends more troops and attends more to the training of Afghan security forces. Military and economic aid to Pakistan is slated to sharply increase and additional civilian development aid to Afghanistan will be a crucial part of the mix as well. These will be long-term efforts, not the work of a year, or two years, or even five years.
Then there is Iraq, where Obama has pledged to responsibly end the war. But, contrary to popular belief, savings generated by reductions in U.S. forces in Iraq are unlikely to be significant, at least for the next few years. The planned reductions are fairly gradual. Even after the end of 2011 we may leave a residual force of 50,000 or more military personnel, along with an expanded contingent to train and equip the Iraqi armed forces.
In short, under Obama, Pentagon spending continues to be out of control.
Taxpayers yet unborn, generations of them, will be on the hook for the nearly $3 trillion--the amount borrowed plus interest to finance war operations over the last decade. Until now, most people barely noticed the dollar cost because it was on the national credit card. But whether they tossed tea or piled pennies or filled out forms in April, the American people are beginning to notice that the bills are coming due.
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Show Allok..
so he mentioned cutting back,
huh?
how about this story right here? This one came right out of bush's home town..texas...
our soldiers are lacking clean, fresh water to drink,
and out military men and women are going out to steal water to survive the desert..
here is the story...any body mad yet?
http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou090511_tnt_water-shortages-iraq-soldiers.16ebba1d.html
shell game,
as in 'shell companies'
like this here:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2008/03/07/war_profiteering_by...
working in the cayman isles..
paying absolutely no taxes for social security, or medicare..
braking the laws, collecting uncounted trillions of dollars,
and getting away with things like not enough water for our troops,
or living conditions in that hospital...walter reed..
you can also add some raping of civilian employees too.
Let us ACT. No vote has changed anything of substance, the polls paralyze democracy now, as instruments of change they are illusions.
And my country is mass murdering people while I do nothing?
No More. I am going to SF w/ my guitar and heart to protest, to march down Market Street and shout at the world "The Wars Must Stop" over and over and over until
god help us all we save one life. Just one precious life.
If anyone will join me for peaceful smart protesting in SF in August, it's protest4peace@hushmail.com we'll have fun and make a difference. It is incredibly empowering to take action. Let us save one life in AfPak.
My silence is now clearly my guilt. And CD, join me or I'll describe it afterward, either way, it is for Love. Love for people on the other side of the world who wonder why Americans are Silent. Gazans find it unfathomable. It is beyond unconscionable, it is a moral shame.
unfortunately,
our voting systems are rigged..
Ive got a website which shows that your
american systtems are all coverups,
with corruptions up the p-nut.
so much for the good of all people...
need to see it?
here you go.....http://www.wanttoknow.info/electionscoverups
"War is Hell"
-- Ulysees S. Grant
Those who witness the horrors and atrocity of war are often
the first to condemn it.
The 20th Century saw over 170 million casualties from
violence. War is obsolete. It is a fearful perversion of
the human spirit.
War, human sacrifice, torture, cannabilism, slavery, fascism,
are sadistic abominations. This is the undeniable reality
[of the lessons] of history. We have moral duty to our young
to convey the futility and cruelty of bloody warfare.
Are we masquerading as civilized people, while simply
donning 'heroic', & well-pressed military uniforms?
[Barbarian-patriots in disguise]?
We have a soul, brain, heart, and conscience. There is a
reason for this. We should diligently ponder the avenues of
peace, for the sake of all future generations. Peace
requires effort and ceaseless commitment, like anything of
value.
Enough said.
I have a couple websites for you to check out..
1st:
Ike's warning..
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=e794c4dbdec73af80f69f4a4b266138e
2nd:
and this one on government, military corruption:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/corruptiongovernmentmilitary
there is so much more too..always keep your eyes open, and your antenna up,
be aware whats going on around you.
above all else
always cover yourself..
Sioux Rose
BRANT: Very well-stated. Your sentiments mirror my own exactly!
"hell is war"
As we slip back into hopelessness only four months after electing someone who won many of us over with the one about giving hope a chance, perhaps we should give up on politicians and political parties, what with time running out on account of perpetual wars + global warming + economic collapse = doomsday. If not politicans & political parties, what? Mass uprisings, that's what. Who leads? Each and everyone. And then what sort of world? It'll be up to us. Anything else? Yes we can.
0's "yes we can" was a typo.
shoulda read "yes we con".
EncinoM wrote:
"In short, under Obama, Pentagon spending continues to be out of control."
That's not possible. Obama promised change, and I believe him."
Folks, even Glen Beck is not that stupid. I'd say this was a feeble attempt at creating a straw man, satire, or simply done for the caveman's own amusement.
if you look closely, you'll see you're referring to Eric Patton.
what kinda hope you been smoking?
???
first post in thread:
"In short, under Obama, Pentagon spending continues to be out of control."
That's not possible. Obama promised change, and I believe him.
--
Eric Patton
Cincinnati, OH
ebpatton@yahoo.com
I spent thirty-three years and four months in actve service as a member of our most agile military force-the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lietenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Sreet, and for bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism....Thus I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American Oil interests in 1914. I heped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank to collect revenues in....I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras "right" for American fruit companies in 1903.
General Smedley D. Butler
Obama and Gates are trying to keep a reasonable limit on defense spending. On the one hand, the Republicans want too much more and on the other side, people such as this author want to disarm America and allow other nations to invade it. Without the military to protect this country, none of you would be typing here. This is the same author who spouts her gun grabbing nonsense in the papers. America can't be the land of the free and the home of the brave without a strong and tough military to keep it that way.
Decreasing wasteful defense spending does not disarm America. You can delude yourself all you want with the notion that military spending is what's needed to secure America but what about the country decaying from within? How about money for education, healthcare, road repair, public transportation, etc ... ? You can't have a secure country if it's rotting from within.
Sioux Rose
An "armed forces" center just opened at the shopping center nearest to my home and it's obvious that it's seeking to rope in kids from lower income families.
In a similar manner, the various states cash-strapped (the loss of property taxes on all the newly abandoned homes being part of this calculus) must turn to their "military big brother" for all those jobs that citizens require in order to pay their basic bills.
Eisenhower saw the power of the MIC back in l959-1960, so it's had more than 4 decades to embed itself into every major state. Like the pusher man getting people addicted, they then argue that they need him and all the "goodies" he supplies. It's been a tragic lapse in essential values that has allowed this insidious and deadly cancer to grow across the land, nor will it be easy or painless to begin to remove it. It would seem that other nations clearly recognize (not being falsely conditioned by our domestic MSM) the perilous condition of America, a very angry nation that's so well-armed and now at a loss for something to do other than bludgeon those that own the resources its people have been conditioned to desire. Real leadership might have led the swelling ranks of the unemployed towards a true "Work Corps" program sincerely aimed at retro-fitting our buildings for a greener energy initiative. Real leadership would not just plant a garden at the White House, but make sure there is one in every community, especially those depressed inner-city regions where kids have nothing to do BUT get into trouble. Plus there's vacant buildings and abandoned land a'plenty.
The nation has arrived at the cusp of "the reckoning" and it's unfortunate that so many have been taught to hate their neighbors who are different. This programming of suspicion towards "other" will work against the prospect of unity that could otherwise help many to overcome the tests ahead.
I can feel the rage on the roadways. The unspoken dialog is, "Stay in line. Do as you are told. Eat what we serve you. And don't question authority. You are all free slaves now!" Orwell who sounded the alarm bells would be anything but proud.
"An "armed forces" center just opened at the shopping center nearest to my home and it's obvious that it's seeking to rope in kids from lower income families."
The anti-war groups would do better to carry out their operations of getting in touch in lower income families and training them and their children to not be interested in recruitment all over the country rather than just protesting in a few big cities alone. The recruiters will eventually perish if this happens.
"In a similar manner, the various states cash-strapped (the loss of property taxes on all the newly abandoned homes being part of this calculus) must turn to their "military big brother" for all those jobs that citizens require in order to pay their basic bills."
Bingo ! You're catching on.
"Real leadership would not just plant a garden at the White House, but make sure there is one in every community, especially those depressed inner-city regions where kids have nothing to do BUT get into trouble."
Excellent idea. Now there's some green part time jobs those teenagers could be given to improve their lives and thinking.
Sioux Rose
MAX: You must be a double sign like Gemini, Sag, or Pisces (or own vital elements in those positions) as what you've just stated falls into synch with my views and is completely opposite to the ideological nature of our grueling debate a week or so ago. I wrote a musical entitled, "Born Again" and one song in it is "Touched by Lightning, I can see the light." I'd like to say that's been the case with you in that you're definitely presenting yourself as something of an engima in this forum, Mercurial and chameleon-like, as the Cream would say, "a strange brew... see what's inside of you."
Max and Rose, Counter recruitment .and opt- out info for enlistment efforts aimed at high school seniors is available at A.F.S.C.org.I believe they can link you up to downloadable forms to keep recruiters from calling and canvasing your children.Counter recruiters can also provide info on sources of employment ,scholarship opportunities,volunteerism or internships on organic farms etc.There should also be opportunities opening up for service corps.jobs like Americorps or C.E.T.A. under the new stimulus programs.I sure hope there are some shovel ready projects soon ,it may be a long hot summer. peace
So what are these lower income kids going to do otherwise? Sit around and get into trouble? Joining the army can't hurt them. You get to be well disciplined and confident once you go through it all. I learned to pull myself up when I was a police officer at the NYPD and later a mercenary. Lower income kids who join often learn to pull themselves up and climb to success. Fighting can be messy but that's life. Those lower income kids have no future otherwise. What do plan to offer as an alternative to recruitment?
"Joining the army can't hurt them."
No, and falling from a great height doesn't hurt either; it's hitting the ground.
An alternative would be to take all the money the US wastes on "defense" and rebuild your roads and schools. Properly fund education and health care. Give the population something more than fear and hollow hope.
(But it is good to note that, in these days of "contractors", you honestly admit to having been a mercanary - a hired killer. Then again, when the Mafia wants someone killed, they put out a contract.)
Sioux Rose
You are an obvious troll. Your "voice" sounds familiar so I am 98% sure you have posted here before under another name, infecting the CD thread with dis-information, narrow-minded "patriotism," and other TRASH. Anyone who thinks the armed forces are serving anything remotely useful (other than freely making use of bayonet diplomacy to force deals with 3rd world nations, deals that ONLY benefit the corporate moneymasters) is one far-removed from the truth. You are arguing for kids to come back brain dead, as there are now 20,000 who require CONSTANT help from their families. They are BROKEN beings... and that's not counting the blood on their hands. Their lives and futures have been seduced away from them as if making $ by killing others = a career.
Since it's been PROVEN that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911, how do you justify the continuing invasion/occupation/ruination of that sovereign nation? Many believe that over ONE MILLION persons have been killed, about 80% are civilians, and others referred to as "insurgents" or "enemies" or whatever, are just people like you and me who would do what we could to protect our homes and families if people in uniforms showed up pointing guns, bombs, and poison gases at us. Can you NOT put yourself in the shoes of anyone who doesn't look like you or carry the USA emblem? There will be a special section of hell reserved for those who cannot. Jesus, and all the masters never said that love your neighbor stops at artificial national borders. You can still repent and turn your life around.
"You are an obvious troll. Your "voice" sounds familiar so I am 98% sure you have posted here before under another name, infecting the CD thread with dis-information, narrow-minded "patriotism," and other TRASH."
I was thinking the exact same thing, Sioux Rose. What could be the purpose in doing this?
Sioux Rose
SLIM: It could be to divert debate, set up divisions within the forum, the old "divide and conquer" routine; and in some cases to try to lay false castigation on some posters, myself included, to diminish the value of what they have to say and share.
don't get paranoid Sious.
ignore the man if he remains obnoxious.
"You are an obvious troll. Your "voice" sounds familiar so I am 98% sure you have posted here before under another name, infecting the CD thread with dis-information, narrow-minded "patriotism," and other TRASH. Anyone who thinks the armed forces are serving anything remotely useful (other than freely making use of bayonet diplomacy to force deals with 3rd world nations, deals that ONLY benefit the corporate moneymasters) is one far-removed from the truth. You are arguing for kids to come back brain dead, as there are now 20,000 who require CONSTANT help from their families. They are BROKEN beings... and that's not counting the blood on their hands. Their lives and futures have been seduced away from them as if making $ by killing others = a career."
Whoa ! I don't know where you're getting this bs from but most people who I've seen join the military and return have had more to brag about in flying colors. I'm aware of the casualties and god bless them. I'm also aware of soldiers coming back with PTSD and I would rather increase defense spending so that these kids get their proper training to overcome PTSD when they leave. Mercenaries are usually healthier than most soldiers despite the tougher jobs mercenaries have to do but they are not as restricted unlike the soldiers so they don't have to feel bad about it. For that reason alone, privatizing the military doesn't sound so bad.
"Since it's been PROVEN that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911, how do you justify the continuing invasion/occupation/ruination of that sovereign nation? Many believe that over ONE MILLION persons have been killed, about 80% are civilians, and others referred to as "insurgents" or "enemies" or whatever, are just people like you and me who would do what we could to protect our homes and families if people in uniforms showed up pointing guns, bombs, and poison gases at us. Can you NOT put yourself in the shoes of anyone who doesn't look like you or carry the USA emblem? There will be a special section of hell reserved for those who cannot. Jesus, and all the masters never said that love your neighbor stops at artificial national borders. You can still repent and turn your life around."
I wasn't talking about 911 or Iraq war but now that you brought it up out of nowhere, here's my take. 911 justified our going into Afghanistan. Iraq we now know we had no business getting into. I lost my parents to a mugger when I was 15 and since then, my uncle who was all I could rely on was a NAVY officer who later taught me the art of defense and getting tough on crime. I later found the gang who killed my parents and upon killing them, I was rewarded with a job of being hired by NYPD. The gang was wanted for years. I would have gotten into trouble in NYC for posessing firearms and killing but I was spared. I grew up learning to get tougher in society where no one cares to be nice. I might not have been rough and tough but at my age of 63, I'm used to it. I felt uncomfortable about it when I started out but remembering my parents' death, I never shy away from going rough and tough to avenge my parents. They were too nice in life and GOD punished them for it. I can understand being called a psycho for being a vengeant man and even playing sergeant with my employees where I used to be a manager. The goal of life is to protect, defend, and if avenge where you've been wronged.
Sioux Rose
ENCINO: IF your story is true and you are 63, then all I can say is all of Rush Limbaugh's followers sound alike and THAT is where "that voice" I recognized echoed from. IF it's true that you avenged the death of your parents, you may score some macho points with the boys in blue, but the real courage is forgiveness. I remember a 60 minutes story about a lovely blond Caucasian woman who found her calling in helping poor Blacks in some nation of Africa. She was slaughtered. 60 Minutes interviewed her parents because instead of vowing revenge against the death of their lovely daughter, they realized the best way to honor her memory was to CONTINUE in HER WORK. Can you imagine that kind of big-heartedness, that grand expanse of human souls to step beyond the unimaginable pain of such a loss and instead of asking for pay-back (of the negative, revenge-seeking sort) to instead LOVE the "enemies" who stole their daughter's life prematurely?
I am not saying that I am personally capable of such a higher love, but I certainly applaud those who can reach that state. It is also what ALL the masters (of a number of religious and spiritual disciplines) teach. If you are this mature 63 year old, now that you've begun to post here perhaps your higher self is seeking transformation and less a validation of the old paradigm that seeks violence as an answer to life's slings and arrows, but rather a new more holistic way of SEEING and thus being. If so, welcome.
Ok? So you already avenged your parents' death by killing the gang which I still find questionable. But I don't see how you honor your parents' death by killing another thousand innocent civilians as a mercenary or millions by denying them their needed health insurance. That is not loving your parents or showing patriotism to your country. What you are doing is not only greedy but an act of LUNACY and quite frankly, I think you're a deranged lunatic.
ur funny
Violence is not funny. He's a deranged lunatic.
I know he's being bad, but honestly he's full of it. This is old school. Yahoo News Discussion Forums. I'm a veteran of them, and I can smell a refugee on any forum.
I don't understand what you are trying to say but while every forum can have people who can be different, ours does not treat them way off. We try to be nice and straighten out their bad behavior and thinking but if all they want to do is troll and get personal, then we have the right to say enough already. EncinoM can be a nutjob for all we care but he needs to show some civility and understanding of others. We would like to engage in healthy discussions rather than turn this forum into a Faux Noise circus arena. I find it hard to believe that EncinoM is 63 but if he's that same EncinoM I see on alternet.org, then he's only gotten worse. I have come across grumpy old conservatives and they can be really annoying but this one has gone too far.
WOW! Are you the Green Lantern?
"I later found the gang who killed my parents and upon killing them . . . "
This sounds like a murder confession.
It's odd we need any increase when we already out spend the rest of the world combined for "defense."
Obama is not calling for an increase in defense spending. He's trimming it properly. It's the Republicans who want to blow the military spending out of proportion to non-related pork.
0 is increasing "defense" spending.
just not as much as the militarists would like.
this has been portrayed as "cuts"
It a simple strategy really.
By spending more then the rest of the world on its Military AND by demonstrating a willingness if not eagerness to invade and attack third world countries.....
Those countries that fear they may on the radar screen for an Invasion by the Pease loving United States of America because they sit on oil or Natural gas or some other resource feel compelled to increase military spending and or seek Nuclear weapons.
You DID see the brouhaua that happened when Venezuala increased ITS Military spending ?
Now when these countries do increase military spending or detonate a Nuclear weapon, the peace loving United States of America can claim..."See the world a dangerous place...these countries seek to destablize the world and start wars....we need a larger military in order to ensure such does not occur".
You are all wage slaves to the out of control MIC.
Whoa ! The US isn't that bad even if it's not perfect. If other countries want to increase their defense spending and play games with the US, then bring them on. They won't get very far.
No, sorry . . . the US really is that bad.
ask any bag lady - she'll tell you that $534 billion sounds about right to defend her quality of life.
People need security too you know.
Security does not mean choking their freedom and spending endless on wars which provide no security anyway.
"In short, under Obama, Pentagon spending continues to be out of control."
That's not possible. Obama promised change, and I believe him.
--
Eric Patton
Cincinnati, OH
ebpatton@yahoo.com
exactly what about Obama's budget is 'not possible' as you say? He's already approved it.
"Obama promised change, and I believe him."
And what if he has already broken his promises on change which for the most part he has no problem doing already in 4 months? No hard feelings but Obama's breaking what little he promised last year. He has kept his promises to retain the status quo though so I suppose believing him on that is ok even though it's a bad status quo he's maintaining.
"Global War on Terror" [GWOT] becomes "Gone Went Our Taxes" [GWOT] - wow, that's a change!