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Obama Caves to 'Scaredy-Cat Nation'
A paradox of the modern United States is that it wields unprecedented military power in the world yet its people are constantly kept frightened about unlikely foreign dangers. Its politics, too, are dominated by fear.
The way this plays out most often is that Republicans (aided by the U.S. news media) exaggerate overseas threats and denounce the Democrats for being "soft" on whatever the current "threat" might be: the Reds, the yellow menace, Soviet "beachheads" in Central America, or now Islamic terrorism.
From the Vietnam War to today's "war on terror," Democrats have reacted out of fear of getting blamed for not doing enough to "protect" the nation, so they undertake misguided actions to look tough, as Lyndon Johnson did in escalating U.S. troop levels in Vietnam or as Democrats in Congress did in going along with George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
In the latest chapter, President Barack Obama is succumbing to the same dynamic as he retreats on his campaign promises to restore the rule of law and to put relations with the Islamic world on a more rational footing.
Fulfilling those promises would require political courage from Obama and the Democrats, a commodity that remains in short supply. And it appears to be beyond hope to expect that the Republicans and their right-wing media allies will ever behave responsibly - when there's a chance for political gain.
So, in the Age of Obama, the mighty United States again presents itself to the world as "Scaredy-Cat Nation," terrified about the danger posed by a small number of suspected terrorists who might be transferred, in shackles, from the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to super-max prisons on U.S. soil.
All manner of terrifying tales have been imagined about inmates using their one hour a day outside their jail cells to organize breakouts or about terrorist comrades crossing the U.S. border to lay siege to a super-max prison and somehow busting the prisoners out.
Such fantasies, which sound like bad Hollywood movie scripts, have been circulated by prominent Republicans, including Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and FBI Director Robert Mueller, and have been echoed by key Democrats, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Fearing the Uighurs
The American people also are supposed to get very scared that some Guantanamo inmates who were locked up for no good reason - like the 17 Chinese Uighurs who have been imprisoned at Guantanamo for seven years though the Bush administration concluded that they are no threat to the United States - might get relocated to the "land of the free, home of the brave."
And then there's the panic over the slim possibility that after a trial, a few suspected terrorists might get acquitted, although in those cases the defendants would almost surely remain locked up pending deportation.
Whatever risks remain are so ephemeral that they are vastly outweighed by other dangers that the United States creates for itself by being perceived as a hypocritical nation that preaches human rights for others but not when Americans feel some remote danger.
If Americans really wanted to reduce the risk of a 9/11 repeat, they could undertake any number of policy changes, from reducing their dependence on Middle Eastern oil to demanding that the Israeli government grants meaningful statehood to the Palestinians.
Instead, the United States has opted for a behavioral pattern that veers from victimhood to bullying, from the tears that followed the 9/11 attacks and the lament "why do they hate us?" to the cheers for George W. Bush's "shock and awe" bombardment of Iraq and the tough-guy treatment of captives.
On May 21, former Vice President Dick Cheney defended this approach, which relies on force to eradicate perceived threats to the homeland:
"In the fight against terrorism, there is no middle ground, and half-measures keep you half exposed. You cannot keep just some nuclear-armed terrorists out of the United States, you must keep every nuclear-armed terrorist out of the United States. ...
"When just a single clue that goes unlearned ... one lead that goes unpursued ... can bring on catastrophe - it's no time for splitting differences. There is never a good time to compromise when the lives and safety of the American people are in the balance."
A Logical Flaw
But there is a logical flaw to Cheney's so-called "one-percent doctrine," which holds that even if a potential terrorist threat presents only a one-percent possibility it must be treated as a certainty. The flaw is that reacting to unlikely dangers as certainties is almost guaranteed to create even more dangers.
For instance, invading Iraq to eliminate a tiny risk that Saddam Hussein might help al-Qaeda has killed 4,300 American soldiers, spared al-Qaeda's leadership in their hideouts along the Afghan border, strengthened Iran as a regional power, and spread anti-Americanism across the volatile region, including inside nuclear-armed Pakistan.
In other words, reacting to every hypothetical one-percent threat may sound reassuring to frightened Americans but the policy is almost certain to make the situation more dangerous.
Clearly, many Americans understand this. They know that risk is part of life and intrinsic to a Republic, especially one that operates under a system of laws and cherishes what the Founders called "certain unalienable rights."
Many such Americans voted for Barack Obama in hopes that this eloquent expert on constitutional law would break the cycle of Republican fear-mongering and Democratic cowering, that he would uphold the nation's principles and stop exaggerating the dangers.
However, Obama has disappointed many of these supporters. While rhetorically stepping back from some of Bush's excesses and releasing some important evidence on how the United States officially embraced torture for the first time in the nation's history, Obama has maintained much of the legal paradigm of Bush's "war on terror."
In his speech about terrorism on May 21 - right before Cheney's - Obama said some of the Guantanamo cases would have to go before revamped Military Commissions that would include a few more safeguards than the Bush/Cheney model but still fall far short of civilian courts.
‘Prolonged Detention'
Obama even proposed a new legal system that would allow for "prolonged detention" of terror suspects without trial. Obama said he wanted to involve Congress and the Judiciary in this process - seeking to distance himself from Bush's views of unilateral presidential powers.
"In our constitutional system," Obama said, "prolonged detention should not be the decision of any one man."
However, in truth, prolonged detention has little place at all in the U.S. constitutional system, which includes habeas corpus guarantees against arbitrary imprisonment and the right to fair and open trials.
It's also unclear why an extreme step like prolonged detention is needed. For combatants captured on the battlefield, the law of war permits their detention as POWs for the duration of a conflict, thus negating the argument about how such situations don't lend themselves to the collection of evidence.
Rather, Obama's concept of preventive detention seems aimed at a suspected terrorist who, in Obama's example, has expertise in explosives and who may have been arrested far from a battlefield.
It's unclear why, in that situation, evidence couldn't be collected normally or why witnesses couldn't be developed to prove the case, even if that might require a plea bargain with one suspect to obtain testimony against another.
Given the absence of a compelling rationale, it appears more likely that Obama is bowing to the power of fear, political fear that he might be blamed by fearful Americans if a jury acquitted some allegedly dangerous terrorist because the evidence was insufficient or because the case was tainted by torture or other government misconduct.
Surely, if an acquittal occurred - even if the defendant was then deported to his country of origin - the Republicans and the right-wing media would stoke fears about this dangerous terrorist let loose to wreak havoc. Without doubt, some Americans would fall under the spell of that fear-mongering.
Stirring Fear
The New York Times played into that pattern last week by touting a dubious report prepared by Bush's Pentagon in December 2008, which claimed that one in seven detainees released from Guantanamo "returned" to militant activity. Cheney cited that figure in opposing Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo prison.
However, the evidence in the Pentagon report - details that were buried deep inside the Times article - identified only five released detainees (out of 534) who "have engaged in verifiable terrorist activity or have threatened terrorist acts," the Times reported. In other words, less than one in 100 of the freed prisoners, not one in seven. [See Consortiumnews.com's "NYT Helps the Bushies, Again."]
The pressure on Obama to permit "prolonged detentions" also may reflect the Pentagon's blurring of the lines between militants and media workers. It has become trendy inside U.S. counterinsurgency to lump journalists who criticize American actions with combatants engaging in violent acts.
For example, the U.S. military in Iraq has detained Ibahim Jassam, a Reuters cameraman, since September 2008 despite an Iraqi court order calling for his release and the absence of any formal charges against him.
The U.S. military continues to justify his detention on the basis of undisclosed intelligence that Jassam is a "a high security threat," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for detainee affairs.
Journalists for the Arab TV network al-Jazeera also have been targeted for detention as well as for military attack.
Al-Jazeera journalist Sami al-Hajj was held at Guantanamo from December 2001 to May 2008 as U.S. interrogators unsuccessfully pressed him to link al-Jazeera to al-Qaeda. [For more on U.S. double standards regarding journalists, see this article by Jeremy Scahill.]
Obama's proposal for "prolonged detentions" would seem to invite continuation of such prolonged abuses, when the intelligence data is vague or has little direct connection to terrorist acts.
It appears that Obama is signaling to frightened Americans that even if there is no usable evidence against detainees, he will protect the U.S. homeland by keeping the suspects locked up for the foreseeable future anyway.
That would be a victory for Scaredy-Cat Nation, but it would be a defeat for the honorable system that has guided Constitutional America for more than two centuries. Obama's plan looks to be a cave-in to the cycle of fear that has done so much damage to the Republic.
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what are you more afraid of?
that all the history you think you know be proven false?
or that some bogeyman will get hold of a nook?
someone who would use it for immoral purposes?
unlike the only ones to have ever used this abomination.
america's fear of their own creation reminds me of NativeSon's horses.
The Native Americans are going to get you.
The Blacks are going to get you.
The Anarchists are going to get you.
The Socialists are going to get you.
The Communists are going to get you.
The Muslims are going to get you.
Who has been getting you?
Corporations,MIC, and Plutocrats.
The Democrats need to keep reminding the nation that rather than "protect" us, Bush and Cheney ignored all warnings of a coming attack and let it happen. How could Obama and his administration do any worse job than that? They are not helping themselves or the nation by acting like Repugs-lite.
The best thing about Parry's fine article is the phrase in its title "scaredy-cat nation." This puts Obama's "caving" behavior in the sociological context of the type of "nation" we have become: where people succumb to every frightening rumor of lurking danger, and where those with differing political agendas exploit their fears for their own purposes. "Right wing nuts" have thus an open field of play to promote their various projects of opposition to progressive change, and the would-be defenders of that change are immobilized by a "secondary" fear of the backlash against themselves if they do not "address" the fears that have been so manipulated.
The town I live in (Gainesville FL), probably the most "liberal" town in Florida, recently went through an episode of a text-book case in fear-mongering. The City Council has maintained a policy of non-discrimination (in housing, employment, etc.) against gays and lesbians and last year voted to extend that protection to the transgendered. The local opponents of gay rights manipulated into a fear campaign a clumsy effort by the Council to determine how a transgendered is to be classified (man or woman?) when it comes to such matters as their use of public rest rooms: the Council decided that one's gender is essentially a matter of one's "inner feeling." A certified national right wing nut outfit called Citizens for Good Policy took up the Gainesville situation (as it apparently has in other U.S. cities), and conflated this clumsiness into a petition-and-referendum campaign to rescind the city's civil rights protections for any people not covered by the state of Florida's Civil Rights law which does not include (surprise!) gay persons. The ensuring fear campaign was based on nothing more credible that the 1% (or much less) likelihood that a male sexual pervert might enter a women's restroom to molest girls or women and, if caught, excuse himself by saying he had the "inner feeling" of a woman. And that, folks, was the TOTALITY of their campaign: Want to Keep Men Out of Women's Restrooms? Vote Yes on Amendment One. Fortunately, in this case, Gainesville was immune enough from the scarcedly-cat syndrome that a huge consortium of liberal and conservative forces---from the local newspaper and Chamber of Commerce to the state ACLU and a very active local gay rights organization---were able to secure a 58-42% defeat of that amendment.
Before getting too self-congratulatory about the matter, I'll relate an exchange I had with a Yes sign-holder as I was holding a No one: that, the Yes-man said, were this election to be held in the larger Alachua County of which Gainesville is a part (not to mention the whole state of Florida), it probably would pass. To this political assessment I agreed, re-asserting a point we made in the campaign that a city is entitled to make its own laws about the people whom it wants to protect. Beyond that, though, the idea that 42% of a citizenry in this "most liberal" city could be turned out to vote for a pure and simple fear-mongered position is bracing medicine for assessing the overall capacity of our political system to address the "scaredy-cat" tendencies in our culture; and maybe re-inforces Parry's point that we are terribly dependent in our national political life on a Democratic Party leadership which shows lamentably little tendency to "stand up" to these forces of fear. We were able to muster these "stand up" forces in Gainesville, but elsewhere...?
Great post, Jerry. You explain the situation in Gainesville very well and make good connecting points with Parry's piece. Scardey-cat nation examples abound everywhere, and Obama is doing all he can to cultivate more of them.
Sioux Rose
JERRY: With all due respect I lived in Gainesville from l995-2000 and to me it was the heart of the Bible belt. When I moved there "Money Magazine" had rated it the # 1 place to live and I felt like pesonally suing them for that designation. With a Baptist church on EVERY block, and a "Gator Christian" aggressive mentality, I am unsure how you come to the conclusion it's a "liberal" place.
When Michael Moore spoke at the U.F. campus, every single editorial in the college paper, "The Alligator" said disparaging things about him. The Gainesville Sun is a very conservative paper, and the city commission seems to have never met a developer (and related plans) that it did not approve. The poor fellow was tasered at the university and I met another who was tasered for placing a tape recorder on the table when he was interviewed by the police. (I forget what the charges against him were construed as.)
I remember one year not that long after the murders of the students when I had to return a rental car and walked through campus right before their notorious "Gator Growl" football spectacle. There were HUGE effigies made out to the captains of their football team and they were shaped like giant alligators. These reptilian symbols seemed like a pagan form of idol worship, and indeed Gainesville became the # 1 college football team in the nation. In my mind there is a link between the prior blood sacrifices of the students, the focus on this gator symbolism as related to a very aggressive ball game, and the total lack of tolerance by the mainstream community for anything that is not authoritarian/Christian. The town is like an eerie swamp trying to be a small suburban mecca.
I realize there is a separate community filled with lots of gays and kids with all kinds of colored hair and body piercings, almost acting out a direct rebellion to their conservative neighbors. It is the ODDEST place I ever lived and I felt like a social pariah. One night I went to the Thomas Center to hear jazz and wore the wig I bought as a kind of joke when I turned 40. There was a fairly attractive guy seated near me and I had a feeling he would talk to me. He did. He said "he loved my hair." Two years later I ran into him at Leonardo's (sans the wig) and he said, "Don't I know you?" It took me a while to warm up enough to state flatly, "You symbolized my entire social life in Gainesville. The thing you liked about me was the only thing NOT me." And then I related the embarassing incident. Being a pariah allowed me to focus on my children's education (both got into college), and write numerous scripts. I wonder if you and I shared two separate realities, but then you are not a youngish single woman, and probably not from New York.
Sioux Rose, I won't really dispute anything you say about Gainesville, it has many of the features you describe, which maybe helps account for that 42% vote on the Amendment; but it votes more consistently for Democrats and gave Dennis Kucinich by far the largest vote he got in any Florida city in 04. (when I was managing his local campaign, u hum). Of course it has a bunch of faux-progressive "professionals" of the type that went ga-ga for Obama, in again unusually high proportions; so it's a mixed bag of progressivism to say the least.
The only thing with which I could take serious exception is characterizing me as "probably not from New York." In fact, in a way I'm "from" New York, having taught sociology in SUNY Fredonia (western) New Yorkffor 28 years before migrating to Gainesville in 01 (though I'm a native of Oklahoma). Cheers anyway, I hope we meet soon. Jerry
Sioux Rose
Hi, JERRY: I attended SUNY Albany and a friend of mine went to Fredonia. I will try to set up a talk at a bookstore in Gainesville when I have the physical copies of the new book and invite you. How's that? And there are several coffee spots I like, such as Maude's... I'm glad you weren't offended by my take on Gainesville. Until the lawyer I began dating in l994 took me north, I'd never been past Orlando, nor seen the amazing springs and state parks of this region. Having lived in the Florida Keys and prior to that Puerto Rico, and traveled throughout the Caribbean, Mexico and other zones, I NEED nature energy around me to be inspired enough to write. Of course that leaves a major social gap.
The Republicans are masters of politics. They know all the political dirty tricks and wield them like a master artist wields a paintbrush.
Think about it. The largest terrorist attack in American history happened on Bush's watch. So how do they spin it? They re-frame the argument simply by saying that Bush kept us safe after that attack. Most of the sheeple in this country completely fall for it.
Lets use a simple analogy. Someone owns a large daycare center that burns down on September 11, 2001. A large number of the children die in the fire. Letters are found showing that the owners of the daycare were warned of fire dangers at their facility but did nothing about it.
The owners quickly rebuild the daycare center and reopen it. Their lawyers manage to postpone the trial for 8 years. The Defense then uses the argument that the owners should not be held accountable for the 2001 fire because the new daycare center had not burned down since then. Would that argument hold any water? Apparently it would if the owners were Republicans.
It really shouldn't be that easy to fool the American public, but unfortunately we now live in a country no longer occupied by citizens, but masses of mindless consumers, incapable of even the slightest bit critical thinking.
Sioux Rose
NC- Great post, great analogy (so easy to follow). And by the way, welcome to the CD forum.
NC Tom -
Very nice day care center analogy.
My take still is that the fastest way for team Obama to shut up Cheney and the fear monger boys might well be to go straight for the Achilles heel - all those classified materials withheld from the 911 Commission about the run up to the WTC attack itself. What legitimate national security interest of the United States today would be jeopardized by declassifying the working relationships that existed throughout the summer and early fall of 2001 between American spooks and their counterparts in the Pakistani ISI, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and/or other nations about bin Laden's determined plans to hit the United States eight years ago?
Specifically with reference to the Pakistani ISI, who the hell do you think NSA was relying upon for timely translation of all that electronic chatter they were intercepting? What about the evidence that money was transferred to Mohammed Atta right before 9/11 from a double agent working with the ISI?
No, you don't have to go full bore with a Reichstag fire conspiracy scenario.
All you need to show is that something in the nature of a sting operation was underway, a CIA/DIA sting on American soil in league with other cooperating intelligence agencies - a surveillance/bust plan that unexpectedly blew up in the Bushies' faces on that beautiful September morning to the great chagrin of all concerned, including the top Pentagon brass who let the nation's command headquarters get attacked from the air in broad daylight. Prove just that much about 9/11 itself, and all those later deceptions and manipulation of intelligence about Iraq's WMD, anthrax, the Saddam/Osama connection, and so forth will pale in comparison.
Wouldn't it be great if Barack held a fireside chat some evening that declassified the information about 9/11 that's been so long withheld from Congress, the 911 Commission, and from the public? A fireside chat maybe with Leon Panetta and Robert Gates gravely nodding in the background..... then simply let the partisan chips fall wherever they may? Presidents can do this, you know, as Molly Ivins would say.
In any event, I like your example of the day care center fire, and Robert Parry's discourse on how Cheney's 1% risk rhetoric, if acted upon as national security policy, actually ends up breeding more terrorism as blowback than it deters.
Bill from Saginaw
The boss class scumbags use fear as a social control device.
308 million USers need psychiatric therapy.
But that wouldn't be allowed unless there's a buck in it for the boss class.
Q: What is democracy?
A: An income stream
yeah and Obama's deep pockets are being filled by his corporate handlers on a daily basis.
Don't know if this is relavant or not, but the US continues to descend into fear while doing it's best to make more enemies to fear. So, this statement by William Blum, came to mind:
"If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days.
Permanently.
I would first apologize to all the widows and orphans, the tortured and impoverished, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism.
Then I would announce, in all sincerity, to every corner of the world, that America's global interventions have come to an end, and inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the USA but now -- oddly enough -- a foreign country.
I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims. There would be more than enough money. One year's military budget of 330 billion dollars [now well over 500 billion] is equal to more than $18,000 [now $31,000] an hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born.
That's what I'd do on my first three days in the White House.
(He then wrote: "On the fourth day, I'd be assassinated.")
Instead of fear, why don't we give this a try. Even OBL, in one of his communique's quoted some of this passage and said that he would end any quarrel with the United States if the US would make such gestures. It was not our licencious morals - or "our freedom" that led to the attacks, or he would, as he said, have attacked Sweden, Netherlands or France.
yunz: that would be a good start
as far as osl is concerned - he died in 2001 and exists literally as an ogre in a fairy tale
here is a link to david ray griffin's new book about osl's being dead for 8 years:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13743
and an excerpt of the review:
In Chapter 1, “Evidence that Osama bin Laden is Dead”, Griffin surveys in detail the many different indications published in the major media in late 2001 and early 2002 that bin Laden had been very ill and had died. These included a December, 2001 video in which he appeared to be at death’s door (as admitted by a Bush administration spokesperson), analyses by medical experts of the grave state of his health, the sudden and total cessation in December, 2001 of any surveillance intercepts of communications from him, and even reports of his funeral. In this early period, various high-level officials in the US and Pakistani governments, including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and President Pervez Musharraf, speculated that he was dead. By mid-2002 many experts had concluded that he was dead, including FBI counterterrorism official Dale Watson, President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, and Israeli intelligence officials. The conviction that he died in 2001 is held today by former intelligence operatives Robert Baer and Angelo Codevilla.
Before she was assassinated, Benazir Bhutto had also suggested that Bin Laden had died.
Sioux Rose
YUNZ: Thanks for the powerful post. I see the world through the lens of Mr. Blum, minus the assassination, although given the entrenched interests, that could be a totally right-on assessment.
thanks yunz- great quote from William Blum. had not seen it before. Amazing guy- see if third world traveler is still up, or try googling him. has a lot of great things to say.
but this one is priceless.
yunz is no more...
Land of the free,home of the brave;a myth if even one person is in jail without a chance to defend him/herself.Of course we have to make more weapons to defend ourselves.Are there caves and underground bunkers for these fearless leaders yet?How can these people show their face anywhere without being embarassed?Tony
mustbe: Land of the free,home of the brave has been updated to land of the shackled and home of the chickenshits
Or, Land of the Greed, Home of the Slave
It reminds me of a song I had heard a while back and the situation can easily repeat itself
Lyndon Johnson told the nation,
"Have no fear of escalation.
I am trying everyone to please.
Though it isn't really war,
We're sending fifty thousand more,
To help save Viet nam from Viet Namese."
I jumped off the old troop ship,
And sank in mud up to my hips.
I cussed until the captain called me down.
Never mind how hard it's raining,
Think of all the ground we're gaining,
Just don't take one step outside of town.
Fulfilling those promises would require political courage from Obama and the Democrats, a commodity that remains in short supply.
If only "short supply" were the problem. At least there'd be some. Obysmal is a political pussy. A political pussy is a cross between a coward, an opportunist and a self-deluded fool. Out there, Herr Obysmal, is Reality. It is waiting for you as it has waited for all your recent predecessors. It will come to collect when you least expect it and sooner than expected. It has you by the short hairs, not the other way around. Obysmal, the boy scout, the Schmalzmeister, the Barry White of the Democratic party, is apparently without any embarrassment at all.
Obama sez: "In our constitutional system, prolonged detention should not be the decision of any one man."
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Under the U.S. Constitution, "prolonged detention™" would not even be a consideration.
Obama sez: "In our constitutional system, prolonged detention should not be the decision of any one man."
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"Under the U.S. Constitution, "prolonged detention™" would not even be a consideration."
Not one man? How many did Bush get to sign off on violating the torture statute? six? eight? I'd say Obama may opt for ten or an even dozen, just for appearance's sake.
jlocke - the documentations indicates that at least 68 persons have been murdered during the "interogation process"
at least 68
"In our constitutional system", Obama said, "prolonged detention should not be the decision of any one man."
Obama is a nightmare.
Whether we even have a "constitutional system" depends on whether we have a Supreme Court that actually upholds it on matters like "indefinite detention." That's why it's so extremely important that Sonia Sonomayor (or any other Court choice) be very closely questioned on this during her confirmation hearings. (Maybe Senator Spector will be a Jekyll rather a Hyde on the day he questions her) This is the very kind of "ideology" that cannot be ignored as Obama would like "ideological" matters to be ignored in favor of "biographical" ones. SS may be "what America looks like" in background and, given the scaredy-cat of America, "what America feels like," but will she represent the better angels of our nature as reflected in the Constitution?
-Whether we even have a "constitutional system" depends on whether we have a Supreme Court that actually upholds it on matters like "indefinite detention." That's why it's so extremely important that Sonia Sonomayor (or any other Court choice) be very closely questioned on this during her confirmation hearings
Too true!...unfortunately, in your system of confirmation, judges seem to get off without answering simple questions like "is waterboarding torture?"
...And Obama is hardly likely to put forward a candidate that will reverse his decisions on "prolonged (preventive) detention", why would he?
jlocke: "And Obama is hardly likely to put forward a candidate that will reverse his decisions on "prolonged (preventive) detention", why would he?"
In your nearly rhetorical question, there seems no realistic possibility that he would actually appoint someone to fulfill his oath of office to "protect and defend the Constitution." But like the die-hard Obama supporters say, "give the guy a chance." Here is a chance for him to step beyond his usual manner of promoting his own career by doing something fundamentally "good for the country." I don't know, maybe he will be visited with three spirits who tell him he must mend his ways or he'll wind up forgotten in a pauper's grave. Maybe, as the Obamans insist, he's just still waiting for his "chance" to do what he has always wanted to do (or they have always wanted him to do, even as he said he wouldn't do it). The idiotic "subjunctive" mood (could, woulda, shoulda) in which our political life is living today "could" conceivably give birth to something authentic and helpful. Maybe you or I would give that likelihood a handicap rating of the life expectancy of a snowball in hell, but what else do we have until we get another President?
"Maybe you or I would give that likelihood a handicap rating of the life expectancy of a snowball in hell, but what else do we have until we get another President?"
Yup, makes sense....
I seem to still be "misunderestimating" the degree of, either cynacism or hopelessness, or red tape in America, because from my vantage point, it seems much simpler:
Majority wants X, Green party wants X, majority votes Green party(I'm sorry if I'm repetitive on the Green party, but I know America has one and I presume it is similar to its counterparts around the world)
X being: out of Iraq, torture investigations, universal healthcare,yadda-yadda-yadda.
My question to you is why is progress on the left"ern" front arriving slower than the arctic ice is melting?
How will Sotomayor explain her previous antagonistic attitude toward the Second Amendment?
Robert Parry commits the error, in an otherwise well written article, of stating that the U.S. should implement policy changes "if Americans really wanted to reduce the risk of a 9/11 repeat..." The problem with Parry's statement is that he ignores the fact that the [alleged] perpetrator of 9/11, Osama bin Laden, was never placed on the FBI's Most Wanted List. That is because the FBI has said that they have no evidence linking bin Laden to the terrorists' attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The Bush administration succeeded in using 19 [alleged] crazed Arabs from the Middle East as scapegoats for what occurred on 9/11 even though it has been shown in the very well made Italian documentary Zero: An Investigation into 9/11 that at least 6 of the hijackers are still alive. There are far too many unanswered questions regarding the events of 9/11 for someone like Parry to assume [or at least give the appearance of assuming] that the hijackings on that day were carried out by 19 Muslims from the Middle East. One seriously doubts, for example, that bin Laden was able to somehow figure out while sitting in a cave in Afghanistan that the country with the most sophisticated defense systems on the planet would mysteriously go into a state of paralysis, and being somehow able to outwit NORAD, the FAA and the United States Air Force while also somehow knowing that no jets would scramble until the drama of 9/11 had finally played out. And all the while the mainstream media continues to remain mute concerning the government's weak explanations of what occurred on that fateful day.
E.M.: "The problem with Parry's statement is that he ignores the fact that the [alleged] perpetrator of 9/11, Osama bin Laden, was never placed on the FBI's Most Wanted List."
That's simply not true and easily checked: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm
It beggars my belief how many Americans recite false "facts" by rote when they are online, on a computer, and facts like that are so easily checked. All I did was type "fbi.gov" and the link was clear as day at the top of the home page.
Rainborowe
It's my understanding that on 9/11/01, bin Laden was already named in a sealed federal indictment stemming from the truck bombing of the WTC that happened back on Clinton's watch. Bush/Cheney later sneered at this as an example of how the wimpy Dems tried to fight terrorism by "filing legal papers".
Assuming E.M. has a point here (perhaps bin Laden as Ten Most Wanted, rather than just "wanted" is the criteria), don't you think the FBI's demonstrably low profile, stunningly inept role in the summer and early fall of 2001 in keeping tabs on the high jackers was most likely because the Bushies were treating the whole thing as a priority for the CIA, NSA, DIA, and the other international spooks rather than J Edgar Hoover's old Fuddy Duddies?
I mean, one of the great expedient virtues of treating the whole surveillance/sting operation as a military/CIA paramilitary responsibility rather than a civilian law enforcement action (even though these guys were on American soil) was to not have to bother with silly things like getting search warrants for electronic eavesdropping (which create a paper trail, and which would involve contact with those damn lawyers over at the Department of Justice).
Check out my earlier post above on how I speculate a few steps short of being a full false flag conspiracy fan, but how the fear mongering of guys like Dick Cheney might be best spiked by throwing some much needed sunlight on the underlying facts of the 9/11 attacks.
Bill from Saginaw
Rainborowe
If I may be permitted to say, it would be most helpful that before accusing someone of "recit[ing] false 'facts' by rote when they are online" that you take your own advice and use the computer in order to determine "facts... that are so easily checked." I took your advice which proved my point.
When you quoted me in your first sentence you conveniently neglected to include the next sentence which immediately followed what I had written. If you had, you would have written [I am quoting from memory] "That is because the FBI does not have enough evidence to connect bin Laden with the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001." If one goes on to the FBI's web site, one finds that bin Laden is indeed upon their Most Wanted List. But if you had actually bothered to click on their Most Wanted link you would have discovered that the FBI had written that:
"Usama bin Laden is wanted in connection with the Aug. 7, 1998, Bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya."
The point, of course, is that the FBI, as I attempted to state, apparently to no avail, "does not have enough evidence to connect bin Laden with the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001." If they had, they would have clearly written that bin Laden is wanted specifically in connection with the terrorist attacks. But, again, they did not and could not do that because they do not have the evidence to link him with those particular attacks. Again, if they had the evidence they would have done so. Even after almost eight years after that event they still have not put bin Laden on their Most Wanted List because the proof that he was involved in the attacks is, as they apparently know, not there. This not only verifies what I had written but it also substantiates what others far more knowledgeable than myself have said about this including such respected people as David Ray Griffin, Barrie Zwicker and Webster Tarpley who have the temerity to back up their assertions and analyses and questions of 9/11 with facts, logic and reason.
To quote what you had written, "the link [and its information were] as clear as day."
As a postscript, if you were to also read my name very carefully you would discover that it reads Erroll. What you seem to have done in your comment was to address me by the initials E.M which you seem to have mistook for Erroll May. The May happens to refer to today's date of May 28, 2009.
You are correct, he is on there site; however, here's the text describing what he's wanted for:
"USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD."
No mention of 9/11 anywhere on his page.
Maninwarren
Excellent point which confirms what I had also stated at May 28 at 7;17 p.m.
Sioux Rose
ERROLL: Good post. Parry's blind acceptance of "the party line" as per 911 bothers me, too, and in my view diminishes the veracity of anything else he utters.
So, lets see...Bin Laden was not connected to Sept. 11 attacks means it was an inside job by the Bush Administration?
Actually, of course, neither is the case. The Sept. 11 attacks were organized by an independent cell led by Mohammad Atta in Hamburg, Germany, with funding by a number of sources - but not from Bin Laden directly. Bin Laden applauded the action when it happened, but his role in it's planning was probably minimal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Atta
Also, I always find it odd how conspiracy theorists always latch onto a completely tangential omission or oversight in a government document as proof of the conspiracy. If there really was a conspiracy, wouldn't the FBI have made sure Bin Laden WAS connected to Sept 11 on the "most wanted" bulletin?
And finally, I assume that this "inside job" conspiracy theory starts with a belief in the implausibility of the attacks being done by Arabs who angered by US/Zionist aggession, economic hegemony and impoverishment of the Middle East.
Is this correct?
If so, what part of it do you find implausible? Is it:
1. The US /Zionist aggression, economic hegemony and impoverishment, and the crushing of pan-Arab socialist (Nasserist) alternatives - leading to extreme Islamic movements as the only "allowed" alternative (they were useful against "godless communists") in it's place???
2. Or, is it that you don't believe that at least some Arabs weren't pissed off enough at the USA to do it???
3. Or is it that Arabs were too incompetent to carry out such a simple plan?
It seem to me that to believe the "conspiracy theories" is only possible if a person is extremely ignorant of the history of US foreign policy in the region, because if you know what has gone over there, the attacks were not only plausable, but (particularly in light of the earlier unsuccessful attempt), a near certainty!
So before they start on about their completely wrong notions regarding the physical aspects of the event - they need to start with demonstrating that the motivations and hijacking scheme is not credible.
Meanwhile, they can also go here:
http://www.debunking911.com/
Yunz
Let us begin in some what reverse order. I strongly suggest that you read David Ray Griffin's well reasoned and logical book Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official conspiracy Theory which, as the title implies, easily swats away at the web site that you have posted.
You may also wish to be cognizant of the Latin motto-cui bono-who benefits? As Barrie Zwicker ably demonstrates in his well written book Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11, the neoconservatives, in their manifesto PNAC [Project for a New American Century] stated that it was it would be difficult to obtain their objectives, as they termed it, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor." As Barrie Zwicker notes, it does not get much clearer than that in seeing how far the neocons would go in order to meet their less than noble goals.
Ironically, you then state how " 'conspiracy theories' is [sic] only possible if extremely ignorant of the history of US foreign policy in the region..." If you were aware of the history of false flag operations throughout history, you would then, I think, be able to see the lengths that a country would go in engaging in subterfuge by blaming a group or country in order to hide their own malfeasance. A good example would be the Reichstag fire of 1933. That fire was blamed by the Nazis on one communist whom they subsequently decapitated. They then blamed ALL communists for what happened. It was eventually shown by william Shirer, writing in his classic work The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, how that claim was not only demonstrably false but originated with the higher level Nazis such as Goebbels and Goering. When we jump to the twenty first century we find a striking parallel to what very well may have occurred on 9/11 when after only waiting only literally hours after the terrorist attacks the White House proclaims, without a shred of proof, that the terrorists, a convenient scapegoat, were somehow responsible for the events of 9/11.
You mention, apparently tongue in cheek, that the Arabs may have been incompetent to carry out what happened on that day. What you fail to mention is that, looking at it objectively, the ones who would have had not only the motive but the best means, method and opportunity to carry out those attacks would have been people in the Bush administration as well as top military brass. As I believed I stated in an earlier comment, I hardly think that someone who was supposedly behind those attacks living in a cave thousands of miles away in Afghanistan would have been able to somehow realistically pull that off as compared to those who would have inside information such as being able to shut down NORAD, the FAA and, incredibly, the U.S. Air Force until the drama of 9/11 had been finally played out. Do you seriously believe that it is realistic to believe that 19 [alleged] crazed Muslims along with their leader were able to coordinate this better than someone like a Dick Cheney? I think not.
Again, as I mentioned earlier, cui bono?-who benefits? The neocons wanted a very big excuse-"a new Pearl Harbor"- to carry out their goals. As Hitler or Goering once said the bigger the lie the more likely it is that the people will believe it. This appear to have been the thinking in the Bush White House and the supine mainstream media fell for it hook, line and sinker.
The only way for the truth to eventually emerge is for, unlike the 9/11 Commission, a true and honest and open investigation to take place in order to discover what actually happened on Sept. 11, 2001.
Cui bono?
The Islamic anti-US resistance of course.
As Bin Laden pointed out in his incredible communique, they lured the US in and were bankrupting the US just as they bankrupted the old Soviet Union.
And no, the Bin Laden communique was not made up by the CIA - it was far too convincing and rational an appeal against US imperialism. Later one of them even quoted William Blum. If it had been made up by teh uS government - it would have been designed to make Bin Laden look like a nut.
As an activist in organizations that have been infiltrated by cops and the even the FBI, I can assure you that they are incapable of "faking" real anti-imperialist rhetoric
The "attacks" - actually suicide hijackings - were absurdly simple, what kind of sophistication does overpowering a airline crew and flying a plane into a building take? Recall that airline security procedure at the time was to always cooperate with hijackers. My hang gliding club could have pulled the thing off.
Xyy inquires as to "what kind of sophistication does overpowering a airline crew and flying a plane into a building take?" He then adds "My hang gliding club could have pulled the thing off." It is extremely doubtful if Xyy's hang gliding club could have pulled off a 270 degree maneuver by a 757 which then supposedly hit the most heavily guarded building on the planet, i.e. the Pentagon, while barely singeing a blade of grass next to the Pentagon. It then created a 16' foot hole in the Pentagon despite the fact that a 757 has a wing span of over 100'. As hundreds of veteran airplane pilots have pointed out, even the most experienced airplane pilots would have found it extremely difficult to have carried out that maneuver. So how does one explain the fact that the [alleged] terrorist who had piloted that plane had been labeled a "terrible pilot" by his flight instructor and had [supposedly] did a 270 degree turn that would have been extremely difficult for the most experienced pilot to do?
Also, kindly explain how 19 hijackers, all 5'5" to 5'7" and of slender builds, were somehow able to overpower the flight crew and the passengers, not with Uzi sub machine guns or pistols or machetes, but armed only with box cutters? Or is one actually allowed to dare to challenge the Bush administration's feeble explanations as to what took place on that day which so many liberals [of all people] seem to be so willing to embrace?
"armed only with box cutters" the fearless hijinxers jumped from the cockpits at impact, ran down the stairwells and, utilizing said boxcutters, severed the supporting columns of both WTC Towers.
who needs thermite when you've got BOX CUTTERS?
Vdb
Bingo. You nailed it. If it were not so tragic it would be hilarious as those who have the temerity to challenge the government's tissue thin story of what occurred on 9/11 are all too often labeled as being "conspiracy nuts" while it is tacitly accepted by so many Americans who are apparently unwilling to engage in critical thinking that the Bush government, for some unknown reason, should be trusted to tell them the truth despite the fact that their credibility in that area is practically non-existent. Unfortunately the opposition party is not exactly a seeker of truth as it has not shown any great enthusiasm, either by the executive or legislative branch, to call for, unlike the 9/11 Commission, an open an honest investigative body into what exactly occurred on Sept. 11, 2001 in the country of the United States of America when, inexplicably, no jets were scrambled until over an hour after four airplanes had been hijacked and those airplanes had somehow mysteriously penetrated the most sophisticated defenses of any country on the planet.