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Unexceptional Americans: Why We Can't See the Trees or the Forest: The Torture Memos and Historical Amnesia
The torture memos released by the White House elicited shock, indignation, and surprise. The shock and indignation are understandable. The surprise, less so.
For one thing, even without inquiry, it was reasonable to suppose that Guantanamo was a torture chamber. Why else send prisoners where they would be beyond the reach of the law -- a place, incidentally, that Washington is using in violation of a treaty forced on Cuba at the point of a gun? Security reasons were, of course, alleged, but they remain hard to take seriously. The same expectations held for the Bush administration's "black sites," or secret prisons, and for extraordinary rendition, and they were fulfilled.
More importantly, torture has been routinely practiced from the early days of the conquest of the national territory, and continued to be used as the imperial ventures of the "infant empire" -- as George Washington called the new republic -- extended to the Philippines, Haiti, and elsewhere. Keep in mind as well that torture was the least of the many crimes of aggression, terror, subversion, and economic strangulation that have darkened U.S. history, much as in the case of other great powers.
Accordingly, what's surprising is to see the reactions to the release of those Justice Department memos, even by some of the most eloquent and forthright critics of Bush malfeasance: Paul Krugman, for example, writing that we used to be "a nation of moral ideals" and never before Bush "have our leaders so utterly betrayed everything our nation stands for." To say the least, that common view reflects a rather slanted version of American history.
Occasionally the conflict between "what we stand for" and "what we do" has been forthrightly addressed. One distinguished scholar who undertook the task at hand was Hans Morgenthau, a founder of realist international relations theory. In a classic study published in 1964 in the glow of Camelot, Morgenthau developed the standard view that the U.S. has a "transcendent purpose": establishing peace and freedom at home and indeed everywhere, since "the arena within which the United States must defend and promote its purpose has become world-wide." But as a scrupulous scholar, he also recognized that the historical record was radically inconsistent with that "transcendent purpose."
We should not be misled by that discrepancy, advised Morgenthau; we should not "confound the abuse of reality with reality itself." Reality is the unachieved "national purpose" revealed by "the evidence of history as our minds reflect it." What actually happened was merely the "abuse of reality."
The release of the torture memos led others to recognize the problem. In the New York Times, columnist Roger Cohen reviewed a new book, The Myth of American Exceptionalism, by British journalist Geoffrey Hodgson, who concludes that the U.S. is "just one great, but imperfect, country among others." Cohen agrees that the evidence supports Hodgson's judgment, but nonetheless regards as fundamentally mistaken Hodgson's failure to understand that "America was born as an idea, and so it has to carry that idea forward." The American idea is revealed in the country's birth as a "city on a hill," an "inspirational notion" that resides "deep in the American psyche," and by "the distinctive spirit of American individualism and enterprise" demonstrated in the Western expansion. Hodgson's error, it seems, is that he is keeping to "the distortions of the American idea," "the abuse of reality."
Let us then turn to "reality itself": the "idea" of America from its earliest days.
"Come Over and Help Us"
The inspirational phrase "city on a hill" was coined by John Winthrop in 1630, borrowing from the Gospels, and outlining the glorious future of a new nation "ordained by God." One year earlier his Massachusetts Bay Colony created its Great Seal. It depicted an Indian with a scroll coming out of his mouth. On that scroll are the words "Come over and help us." The British colonists were thus pictured as benevolent humanists, responding to the pleas of the miserable natives to be rescued from their bitter pagan fate.
The Great Seal is, in fact, a graphic representation of "the idea of America," from its birth. It should be exhumed from the depths of the psyche and displayed on the walls of every classroom. It should certainly appear in the background of all of the Kim Il-Sung-style worship of that savage murderer and torturer Ronald Reagan, who blissfully described himself as the leader of a "shining city on the hill," while orchestrating some of the more ghastly crimes of his years in office, notoriously in Central America but elsewhere as well.
The Great Seal was an early proclamation of "humanitarian intervention," to use the currently fashionable phrase. As has commonly been the case since, the "humanitarian intervention" led to a catastrophe for the alleged beneficiaries. The first Secretary of War, General Henry Knox, described "the utter extirpation of all the Indians in most populous parts of the Union" by means "more destructive to the Indian natives than the conduct of the conquerors of Mexico and Peru."
Long after his own significant contributions to the process were past, John Quincy Adams deplored the fate of "that hapless race of native Americans, which we are exterminating with such merciless and perfidious cruelty... among the heinous sins of this nation, for which I believe God will one day bring [it] to judgement." The "merciless and perfidious cruelty" continued until "the West was won." Instead of God's judgment, the heinous sins today bring only praise for the fulfillment of the American "idea."
The conquest and settling of the West indeed showed that "individualism and enterprise," so praised by Roger Cohen. Settler-colonialist enterprises, the cruelest form of imperialism, commonly do. The results were hailed by the respected and influential Senator Henry Cabot Lodge in 1898. Calling for intervention in Cuba, Lodge lauded our record "of conquest, colonization, and territorial expansion unequalled by any people in the 19th century," and urged that it is "not to be curbed now," as the Cubans too were pleading, in the Great Seal's words, "come over and help us."
Their plea was answered. The U.S. sent troops, thereby preventing Cuba's liberation from Spain and turning it into a virtual colony, as it remained until 1959.
The "American idea" was illustrated further by the remarkable campaign, initiated by the Eisenhower administration virtually at once to restore Cuba to its proper place, after Fidel Castro entered Havana in January 1959, finally liberating the island from foreign domination, with enormous popular support, as Washington ruefully conceded. What followed was economic warfare with the clearly articulated aim of punishing the Cuban population so that they would overthrow the disobedient Castro government, invasion, the dedication of the Kennedy brothers to bringing "the terrors of the earth" to Cuba (the phrase of historian Arthur Schlesinger in his biography of Robert Kennedy, who considered that task one of his highest priorities), and other crimes continuing to the present, in defiance of virtually unanimous world opinion.
American imperialism is often traced to the takeover of Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii in 1898. But that is to succumb to what historian of imperialism Bernard Porter calls "the saltwater fallacy," the idea that conquest only becomes imperialism when it crosses saltwater. Thus, if the Mississippi had resembled the Irish Sea, Western expansion would have been imperialism. From George Washington to Henry Cabot Lodge, those engaged in the enterprise had a clearer grasp of just what they were doing.
After the success of humanitarian intervention in Cuba in 1898, the next step in the mission assigned by Providence was to confer "the blessings of liberty and civilization upon all the rescued peoples" of the Philippines (in the words of the platform of Lodge's Republican party) -- at least those who survived the murderous onslaught and widespread use of torture and other atrocities that accompanied it. These fortunate souls were left to the mercies of the U.S.-established Philippine constabulary within a newly devised model of colonial domination, relying on security forces trained and equipped for sophisticated modes of surveillance, intimidation, and violence. Similar models would be adopted in many other areas where the U.S. imposed brutal National Guards and other client forces.
The Torture Paradigm
Over the past 60 years, victims worldwide have endured the CIA's "torture paradigm," developed at a cost that reached $1 billion annually, according to historian Alfred McCoy in his book A Question of Torture. He shows how torture methods the CIA developed from the 1950s surfaced with little change in the infamous photos at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison. There is no hyperbole in the title of Jennifer Harbury's penetrating study of the U.S. torture record: Truth, Torture, and the American Way. So it is highly misleading, to say the least, when investigators of the Bush gang's descent into the global sewers lament that "in waging the war against terrorism, America had lost its way."
None of this is to say that Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld et al. did not introduce important innovations. In ordinary American practice, torture was largely farmed out to subsidiaries, not carried out by Americans directly in their own government-established torture chambers. As Allan Nairn, who has carried out some of the most revealing and courageous investigations of torture, points out: "What the Obama [ban on torture] ostensibly knocks off is that small percentage of torture now done by Americans while retaining the overwhelming bulk of the system's torture, which is done by foreigners under U.S. patronage. Obama could stop backing foreign forces that torture, but he has chosen not to do so."
Obama did not shut down the practice of torture, Nairn observes, but "merely repositioned it," restoring it to the American norm, a matter of indifference to the victims. "[H]is is a return to the status quo ante," writes Nairn, "the torture regime of Ford through Clinton, which, year by year, often produced more U.S.-backed strapped-down agony than was produced during the Bush/Cheney years."
Sometimes the American engagement in torture was even more indirect. In a 1980 study, Latin Americanist Lars Schoultz found that U.S. aid "has tended to flow disproportionately to Latin American governments which torture their citizens,... to the hemisphere's relatively egregious violators of fundamental human rights." Broader studies by Edward Herman found the same correlation, and also suggested an explanation. Not surprisingly, U.S. aid tends to correlate with a favorable climate for business operations, commonly improved by the murder of labor and peasant organizers and human rights activists and other such actions, yielding a secondary correlation between aid and egregious violation of human rights.
These studies took place before the Reagan years, when the topic was not worth studying because the correlations were so clear.
Small wonder that President Obama advises us to look forward, not backward -- a convenient doctrine for those who hold the clubs. Those who are beaten by them tend to see the world differently, much to our annoyance.
Adopting Bush's Positions
An argument can be made that implementation of the CIA's "torture paradigm" never violated the 1984 Torture Convention, at least as Washington interpreted it. McCoy points out that the highly sophisticated CIA paradigm developed at enormous cost in the 1950s and 1960s, based on the "KGB's most devastating torture technique," kept primarily to mental torture, not crude physical torture, which was considered less effective in turning people into pliant vegetables.
McCoy writes that the Reagan administration then carefully revised the International Torture Convention "with four detailed diplomatic 'reservations' focused on just one word in the convention's 26-printed pages," the word "mental." He continues: "These intricately-constructed diplomatic reservations re-defined torture, as interpreted by the United States, to exclude sensory deprivation and self-inflicted pain -- the very techniques the CIA had refined at such great cost."
When Clinton sent the UN Convention to Congress for ratification in 1994, he included the Reagan reservations. The president and Congress therefore exempted the core of the CIA torture paradigm from the U.S. interpretation of the Torture Convention; and those reservations, McCoy observes, were "reproduced verbatim in domestic legislation enacted to give legal force to the UN Convention." That is the "political land mine" that "detonated with such phenomenal force" in the Abu Ghraib scandal and in the shameful Military Commissions Act that was passed with bipartisan support in 2006.
Bush, of course, went beyond his predecessors in authorizing prima facie violations of international law, and several of his extremist innovations were struck down by the Courts. While Obama, like Bush, eloquently affirms our unwavering commitment to international law, he seems intent on substantially reinstating the extremist Bush measures. In the important case of Boumediene v. Bush in June 2008, the Supreme Court rejected as unconstitutional the Bush administration claim that prisoners in Guantanamo are not entitled to the right of habeas corpus.
Salon.com columnist Glenn Greenwald reviews the aftermath. Seeking to "preserve the power to abduct people from around the world" and imprison them without due process, the Bush administration decided to ship them to the U.S. prison at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, treating "the Boumediene ruling, grounded in our most basic constitutional guarantees, as though it was some sort of a silly game -- fly your abducted prisoners to Guantanamo and they have constitutional rights, but fly them instead to Bagram and you can disappear them forever with no judicial process."
Obama adopted the Bush position, "filing a brief in federal court that, in two sentences, declared that it embraced the most extremist Bush theory on this issue," arguing that prisoners flown to Bagram from anywhere in the world (in the case in question, Yemenis and Tunisians captured in Thailand and the United Arab Emirates) "can be imprisoned indefinitely with no rights of any kind -- as long as they are kept in Bagram rather than Guantanamo."
In March, however, a Bush-appointed federal judge "rejected the Bush/Obama position and held that the rationale of Boumediene applies every bit as much to Bagram as it does to Guantanamo." The Obama administration announced that it would appeal the ruling, thus placing Obama's Department of Justice, Greenwald concludes, "squarely to the Right of an extremely conservative, pro-executive-power, Bush 43-appointed judge on issues of executive power and due-process-less detentions," in radical violation of Obama's campaign promises and earlier stands.
The case of Rasul v. Rumsfeld appears to be following a similar trajectory. The plaintiffs charged that Rumsfeld and other high officials were responsible for their torture in Guantanamo, where they were sent after being captured by Uzbeki warlord Rashid Dostum. The plaintiffs claimed that they had traveled to Afghanistan to offer humanitarian relief. Dostum, a notorious thug, was then a leader of the Northern Alliance, the Afghan faction supported by Russia, Iran, India, Turkey, and the Central Asian states, and the U.S. as it attacked Afghanistan in October 2001.
Dostum turned them over to U.S. custody, allegedly for bounty money. The Bush administration sought to have the case dismissed. Recently, Obama's Department of Justice filed a brief supporting the Bush position that government officials are not liable for torture and other violations of due process, on the grounds that the Courts had not yet clearly established the rights that prisoners enjoy.
It is also reported that the Obama administration intends to revive military commissions, one of the more severe violations of the rule of law during the Bush years. There is a reason, according to William Glaberson of the New York Times: "Officials who work on the Guantanamo issue say administration lawyers have become concerned that they would face significant obstacles to trying some terrorism suspects in federal courts. Judges might make it difficult to prosecute detainees who were subjected to brutal treatment or for prosecutors to use hearsay evidence gathered by intelligence agencies." A serious flaw in the criminal justice system, it appears.
Creating Terrorists
There is still much debate about whether torture has been effective in eliciting information -- the assumption being, apparently, that if it is effective, then it may be justified. By the same argument, when Nicaragua captured U.S. pilot Eugene Hasenfuss in 1986, after shooting down his plane delivering aid to U.S.-supported Contra forces, they should not have tried him, found him guilty, and then sent him back to the U.S., as they did. Instead, they should have applied the CIA torture paradigm to try to extract information about other terrorist atrocities being planned and implemented in Washington, no small matter for a tiny, impoverished country under terrorist attack by the global superpower.
By the same standards, if the Nicaraguans had been able to capture the chief terrorism coordinator, John Negroponte, then U.S. ambassador in Honduras (later appointed as the first Director of National Intelligence, essentially counterterrorism czar, without eliciting a murmur), they should have done the same. Cuba would have been justified in acting similarly, had the Castro government been able to lay hands on the Kennedy brothers. There is no need to bring up what their victims should have done to Henry Kissinger, Ronald Reagan, and other leading terrorist commanders, whose exploits leave al-Qaeda in the dust, and who doubtless had ample information that could have prevented further "ticking bomb" attacks.
Such considerations never seem to arise in public discussion.
There is, to be sure, a response: our terrorism, even if surely terrorism, is benign, deriving as it does from the city on the hill.
Perhaps culpability would be greater, by prevailing moral standards, if it were discovered that Bush administration torture had cost American lives. That is, in fact, the conclusion drawn by Major Matthew Alexander [a pseudonym], one of the most seasoned U.S. interrogators in Iraq, who elicited "the information that led to the US military being able to locate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the head of al-Qa'ida in Iraq," correspondent Patrick Cockburn reports.
Alexander expresses only contempt for the Bush administration's harsh interrogation methods: "The use of torture by the U.S.," he believes, not only elicits no useful information but "has proved so counter-productive that it may have led to the death of as many U.S. soldiers as civilians killed in 9/11." From hundreds of interrogations, Alexander discovered that foreign fighters came to Iraq in reaction to the abuses at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, and that they and their domestic allies turned to suicide bombing and other terrorist acts for the same reasons.
There is also mounting evidence that the torture methods Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld encouraged created terrorists. One carefully studied case is that of Abdallah al-Ajmi, who was locked up in Guantanamo on the charge of "engaging in two or three fire fights with the Northern Alliance." He ended up in Afghanistan after having failed to reach Chechnya to fight against the Russians.
After four years of brutal treatment in Guantanamo, he was returned to Kuwait. He later found his way to Iraq and, in March 2008, drove a bomb-laden truck into an Iraqi military compound, killing himself and 13 soldiers -- "the single most heinous act of violence committed by a former Guantanamo detainee," according to the Washington Post, and according to his lawyer, the direct result of his abusive imprisonment.
All much as a reasonable person would expect.
Unexceptional Americans
Another standard pretext for torture is the context: the "war on terror" that Bush declared after 9/11. A crime that rendered traditional international law "quaint" and "obsolete" -- so George W. Bush was advised by his legal counsel Alberto Gonzales, later appointed Attorney General. The doctrine has been widely reiterated in one form or another in commentary and analysis.
The 9/11 attack was doubtless unique in many respects. One is where the guns were pointing: typically it is in the opposite direction. In fact, it was the first attack of any consequence on the national territory of the United States since the British burned down Washington in 1814.
Another unique feature was the scale of terror perpetrated by a non-state actor.
Horrifying as it was, however, it could have been worse. Suppose that the perpetrators had bombed the White House, killed the president, and established a vicious military dictatorship that killed 50,000 to 100,000 people and tortured 700,000, set up a huge international terror center that carried out assassinations and helped impose comparable military dictatorships elsewhere, and implemented economic doctrines that so radically dismantled the economy that the state had to virtually take it over a few years later.
That would indeed have been far worse than September 11, 2001. And it happened in Salvador Allende's Chile in what Latin Americans often call "the first 9/11" in 1973. (The numbers above were changed to per-capita U.S. equivalents, a realistic way of measuring crimes.) Responsibility for the military coup against Allende can be traced straight back to Washington. Accordingly, the otherwise quite appropriate analogy is out of consciousness here in the U.S., while the facts are consigned to the "abuse of reality" that the naïve call "history."
It should also be recalled that Bush did not declare the "war on terror," he re-declared it. Twenty years earlier, President Reagan's administration came into office declaring that a centerpiece of its foreign policy would be a war on terror, "the plague of the modern age" and "a return to barbarism in our time" -- to sample the fevered rhetoric of the day.
That first U.S. war on terror has also been deleted from historical consciousness, because the outcome cannot readily be incorporated into the canon: hundreds of thousands slaughtered in the ruined countries of Central America and many more elsewhere, among them an estimated 1.5 million dead in the terrorist wars sponsored in neighboring countries by Reagan's favored ally, apartheid South Africa, which had to defend itself from Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), one of the world's "more notorious terrorist groups," as Washington determined in 1988. In fairness, it should be added that, 20 years later, Congress voted to remove the ANC from the list of terrorist organizations, so that Mandela is now, at last, able to enter the U.S. without obtaining a waiver from the government.
The reigning doctrine of the country is sometimes called "American exceptionalism." It is nothing of the sort. It is probably close to a universal habit among imperial powers. France was hailing its "civilizing mission" in its colonies, while the French Minister of War called for "exterminating the indigenous population" of Algeria. Britain's nobility was a "novelty in the world," John Stuart Mill declared, while urging that this angelic power delay no longer in completing its liberation of India.
Similarly, there is no reason to doubt the sincerity of Japanese militarists in the 1930s, who were bringing an "earthly paradise" to China under benign Japanese tutelage, as they carried out the rape of Nanking and their "burn all, loot all, kill all" campaigns in rural North China. History is replete with similar glorious episodes.
As long as such "exceptionalist" theses remain firmly implanted, however, the occasional revelations of the "abuse of history" often backfire, serving only to efface terrible crimes. The My Lai massacre was a mere footnote to the vastly greater atrocities of the post-Tet pacification programs, ignored while indignation in this country was largely focused on this single crime.
Watergate was doubtless criminal, but the furor over it displaced incomparably worse crimes at home and abroad, including the FBI-organized assassination of black organizer Fred Hampton as part of the infamous COINTELPRO repression, or the bombing of Cambodia, to mention just two egregious examples. Torture is hideous enough; the invasion of Iraq was a far worse crime. Quite commonly, selective atrocities have this function.
Historical amnesia is a dangerous phenomenon, not only because it undermines moral and intellectual integrity, but also because it lays the groundwork for crimes that still lie ahead.
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Show AllInstalling these explosives and detonator cords on the building columns of every floor would be very disruptive and would have taken at least a couple weeks. Why has not one of the tens of thousands of people who were in the building over the days before Sept 11 ever come forward?
For that matter, why can't you "theorists" come forward with a single witness of any of the elaborate planning and construction activitiy that would have been required for this scheme?
Oh, and thermite found it that poor guys paper just refers to a wide rannge of aluminum and and metal oxide mixes that could come from perfectly natural procersses in the building collpase. And it would be very difficult to cut a column with thermite.
In fact the whole wacky theory is obtained by a incredibly sophomoric process of taking a bunch of little facts and photographs, pulling them completely out of their context, and reassembling them in exactly the way to match their a-priori notions.
It's all explained in this nice sit here:
http://www.debunking911.com/
Y U N Z,
No it's NOT all nicely explained away at http://www.debunking911.com/
( 1. ) Your "sit" [e], as you call it -- is several years behind the latest research on the WTC dusts. I am introducing you to something unprecedented,
* the discovery of actual still active high explosive material ( i.e. un-reacted )
which has been proven to have the power of dynamite, although these remnant pieces are small, having been carried by the winds as part of the WTC dusts.
( 2. ) You sidestep the most crucial aspect, and have completely ignored the recent demonstration of actual nano dimensioned high explosive materials, constructed on the NANO scale of
* 1/millionth of 1 mm [ 10 ^ (-9) m ]
Here's the scientifically verified and validated peer reviewed paper :
* http://tinyurl.com/active-nano-thermite
and two articles about this important breakthrough:
* http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
* http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13189
( 3. ) The reference you provided was about an initial attempt at understanding 9/11 events, using the well documented macro sized exothermic "heat" releasing thermite powders, and combustion byproducts of thermite being found in the dusts.
* The slow burning high temperature action of macro thermite, can be guided ( with clay ) to cut through vertical columns, but works best on horizontal steel beams -- does take some time for completion of the cut.
* Both military and civilian explosives experts use these materials regularly, but not usually in implosion demolitions
( 4. ) The explosive nature of ( 2. nano ) compared to ( 3. macro ) is a direct result of extreme chemical reactivity ( and energy release ) having been increased by several orders of magnitude -- as the particle size surface area is now on the size of thousands of atoms across.
( 5. ) You are wrong that every floor would have had to been wired, and WiFi detonation systems now eliminate the need to run wires ( or det cord ).
( 6. ) You are wrong that "not one of the tens of thousands of people … before Sept 11 ever come forward," in fact several hundred have been interviewed about odd noises and many unexplained workers.
( 7. ) There was also the several month long renovation and re-application of fire-proofing sprayed-on material, which could easily be the technique to deposit nano-thermite paste, where it would do the most destructive damage.
( 8. ) The scientific forensics examination of the WTC dusts, careful compared the exact ratios of all of the various atomic materials, and although "aluminum and and metal oxide mixes" are individually common in the buildings construction, the ratios could not have systematically matched that of thermite. This is part of careful scientific analysis, not hand waving debunksterism.
( 9. ) Read the scientist's paper about how the nano thermite equivalent of dynamite, completely disprove your assert that "… it would be very difficult to cut a column with thermite." It can easily blow it into tiny pieces, and pulverize concrete.
( 10. ) You ironically complain about the "whole wacky theory is obtained by a incredibly sophomoric process of taking a bunch of little facts and photographs, pulling them completely out of their context, and reassembling them in exactly the way to match their a-priori notions," when in fact that is exactly what the official 9/11 commission report did. They actually started with their conclusions, and worked to fill in the details.
( 11. ) The majority of the official 9/11 commission report is now known to based upon falsified confessions extracted under grievous torture, where the sources later admitted that they said whatever was asked of them to stop the torture. See :
* http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13653
"3 facts show that the government "fixed the facts" regarding 9/11 around a policy decision to exonerate the government from any blame whatsoever.
1. 9/11 Commission's Chief Counsel - John Farmer - says Official Story "Almost Entirely Untrue . . . There Was an Agreement Not to Tell the Truth about What Happened"
2. The Government Used Communist-Style "Minders" to Intimidate Witnesses. Minders “answer[ed] questions directed at witnesses;”
Minders acted as “monitors, reporting to their respective agencies on Commission staffs lines of inquiry and witnesses’ verbatim responses.” The staff thought this “conveys to witnesses that their superiors will review their statements and may engage in retribution;” and
Minders “positioned themselves physically and have conducted themselves in a manner that we believe intimidates witnesses from giving full and candid responses to our questions.”
3. The Main Sources of Information Were Not Even Remotely Credible"
I have to admit to a subliminal prejudice toward people with names like Abdalla al-Ajmi and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Just goes to show that we liberals are not immune to ubiquitous MSM propaganda. Thank you Professor Chomsky for lighting our paths.
"I have to admit to a subliminal prejudice toward people with names like Abdalla al-Ajmi and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi."
LOL..yes indeed...Yet Mr. Smith and Mr.Jones etc. are usually the biggest gangsters in town...
A very important point by Chomsky is that My Lai and Abu Ghraib are presented as shocking exceptions of US behavior to the American public so people can go on deluding themselves about why this country is so rich. Of course, things are breaking down now that the richest of the rich have run off with all the loot.
Too bad Chomsky isn't required reading for US history classes. But of course, telling the truth is not the point of education. The point is to produce obedient workers for the rich.
He certainly laid bare Obama's complicity in supporting this ruthless empire. Much of that was news to me. My hopes that Obama was compromising were rapidly fading, but now I see he really is intent on perpetuating this system of oppression. I did think better of him. But after all, if you're going to be an empire, you have to be ruthless.
But within it are tiny glowing pockets of cooperation and community. Perhaps they can grow and form an increasing web over the land and eventually even change the leadership.
With this one brief foray into the establishment I've learned my lesson. I'm back to my third party candidates. I would like to thank all those who were patient with me while I burned my fingers, and to those who attacked and vilified me, how about learning to practice tolerance? In my opinion, you people do more harm than good for our cause. Or as my Grandma used to say "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar". And can we stop eating each other alive on this discussion board and try working together to make the world a better place?
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Yeah ....I am beginning to understand why a substantial percentage of US population is receptive to VC Cheney's argument (than they are willing to admit) that "yes we committed torture but is works because it was done to protect you". Obama is probably seeing the same numbers and is willing to adopt some of the same strategies that were employed by the previous regimes. No matter how Cheney is loathed, you have to concede that he stands by his conviction that torture works and he is daring anyone, including the current administration, prosecute him. He knows that they would not dare to touch him!
There are nationalist and patriotic myths and then there is historical fact. The former is constructed to produce a predictable outcome, the later has been kept away from Americans in order to protect the trust funds of the elite from the descendents of those from whom this wealth was extracted.
To manage a world is no simple task. In the 60s Americans got too big a scent of the truth and nearly took down the combine. But after a few rough years and many domestic murders, the Great Repression began to kick in here at home to remake the political landscape.
The only way forward is to teach the facts - and try to do better. Massive operations to create a complacent society just don't work. Education works. Compassion works.But there will always be greed, anger, and delusion - our own and a planet's worth to deal with.
When people nowadays speak of American exceptionalism, they do not mean the United States behaves in a way different from other nations (like France) as Dr. Chomsky says. Instead, they say that the United States is above all other nations. Chomsky says Americans have always done what others have done so we are not practicing exceptionalism. Most others who talk about exceptionalism insist that we are practicing exceptionalism because all of our actions proceed from our belief that we are something special. Just thought I would try to clarify how two uses of the word "exceptionalism" are confusing to readers.
The self-justifying rhetoric starts at home.
I HAVE to drive a car to make a living (and burn fossil fuels and help drive oil wars).
I HAVE to pay taxes that fuel the MIC and slaughter people wherever they possess something the US wants. Like oil for our cars & homes. We MUST live and we need your raw materials so now we rep Freedom and You are a Terrorist. You did 9-11. We will kill you for God. And for strategic, military and economic reasons too. But mostly for God & Goodness.
Islam is at War with our Values.
Allah wants our Oil.
Time to demonstrate our Transcendent Purpose.
"Bombsight Diplomacy" Sleep tight, we'll be dropping in.
"The self-justifying rhetoric starts at home."
Joe,
It is that box we all live in.
Joe, you are better than the cog-in-machine role assigned to you by the elites. Admit it. If you want to work hard, and have something to show for yourself, ignore the elite prescription, and build a local business employing sustainable practices, limit your expenses, sell the political benefits of your product, and leave a legacy for future leftists to build on. You might for example start a jojoba selection program for biodiesel there in AZ. You want to select for drought resistance so top work the plants that grow deep rots with branches from the plants that produce more nuts, while also developing a genetic line that can do both. Trade locally, preferably barter, keeping your income below the taxable threshold.
That's total BS, Joe; you don't HAVE to do any of that.
I would quibble with the phrase "historical amnesia." It looks more like we never knew. Maybe it's historical denial or repression.
Whatever it is, let us savor the irony that the Bush Adminstration has brought it to an end.
Bush-Cheney were the first Administration dumb enough to get caught--and even then they couldn't shut up about it. Cheney has even taken his torture act on the road. So the most secretive of all administrations has shattered the secrecy of torture, maintained for decades by President after President.
Way to go, Repubs. Thanks to you, our days of denial are over.
Bush-Cheney brought USA terror to an end?
The only thing that has changed is direct torture by the USA has gone back to previous levels, or such is the most optimistic guess.
Obama has reservered the right to torture on his decision and rendition to foreign countries for torture is still decreed permissible( under the pretext that maybe they won't be tortured).
And Libi (sp?), a valuable witness to torture, was just most likely murdered in a Libyan jail after he was rendered there by the CIA.
And no one being held accountable for any war crimes is a viable ending?
"And no one being held accountable for any war crimes is a viable ending?"
It increasingly appears that Obama is yet another corporate bought shill. Visions of hope and change are fading fast.
And when he signs that bill on credit card reform tomorrow, will you still call him that or give him a little credit? If you don't give credit for trying, you'll never win. Maybe that's why conservatives always win.
Nothing has been brought to an end! It's all being carried forward by Obama and co.
Dr.Chomsky's historical references were meant to be suggestive and certainly not exhaustive. What we take for granted as our way of life came at the expense of others.(domestic and international) Whether we like or not we own our history. The mythologies are starting to wear thin...
"What's wearing thin is my being banned every time I mention the same thing that Chomsky and Zinn have been saying in their articles."
You have been banned? From CD for presenting reasonable arguments?
"Just plain old gringo spin,"
I guess I am a "gringo" (French-Canadian transplant)but I never bought into anybodies spin. (none that I am aware of...lol)
Take care Sancho....
"I am regularly banned from this site for pointing out that the US of A was founded on the twin pillars of slavery and genocide."
Sancho that shouldn't get you banned. Many posters here express the same view.
"I am also banned for being Native American and for choosing to live in another country where non-whites are the majority--and for referring to gringos as...gringos."
Still not a good enough reason to get you banned (That would imply racism on this site) although some might find being referred to as a gringo somewhat offensive.
Sancho,
Keep sharing your ideas in a manner that others will not find offensive and you should not have any future problems. Try not to go out of your way to provoke people.
First of all, using the term "gringo" against others on this site is itself RACIST, UNAMERICAN, and VERY UNPATRIOTIC. CD did its honorable duty and for that I proudly salute them for keeping their honor !!
You are right. More people need to be reminded that our country is NOT governed for the people but for the elite. This elite is mostly white but they are diversifying now. The requirement is to be greedy and devoid of conscience.
In Oklahoma the native Americans were settled in what was considered crappy land to get them away from Indiana and other states to make room for the whites. But lo and behold, several years later oil was found under the Osage nation's sacred land. Well, guess what? The Rockefeller Standard Oil thugs wanted that oil. The statistically highest minority group subjected to homicides was the Osage tribe members who owned or were scheduled to inherit the land the oil was on. Rockefeller got the oil. All this was PROVEN in courts and Rockefeller and his thugs never spent a day in jail. It's ongoing policy. Business kills, steals, destroys whole peoples and then tells us "This is America, Get over it!". Well, fuck no, we aren't going to get over it. When anyone tells fairy tales about the basterd businesses that run the U.S., we'll call them out on it.
Too bad that all you can do is whine around here. Good thing I don't come here so often.
There is such fond talk of patriotism on this site. Bakunin wrote very eloquently on the topic of patriotism (among other topics) in "The Immorality of the State"; it is from the 1800's, but just as relevant today.
An excerpt:
"Patriotism Runs Counter to Ordinary Human Morality. This flagrant negation of humanity, which constitutes the very essence of the State, is from the point of view of the latter the supreme duty and the greatest virtue: it is called patriotism and it constitutes the transcendent morality of the State. We call it the transcendent morality because ordinarily it transcends the level of human morality and justice, whether private or common, and thereby it often sets itself in sharp contradiction to them. Thus, for instance, to offend, oppress, rob, plunder, assassinate, or enslave one's fellow man is, to the ordinary morality of man, to commit a serious crime.
In public life, on the contrary, from the point of view of patriotism, when it is done for the greater glory of the State in order to conserve or to enlarge its power, all that becomes a duty and a virtue. And this duty, this virtue, is obligatory upon every patriotic citizen. Everyone is expected to discharge those duties not only in respect to strangers but in respect to his fellow citizens, members and subjects of the same State, whenever the welfare of the State demands it from him."
It is true that bannings and post deletions happen here for sometimes hard-to-figure reasons - which are never explained by the webmaster. Just google the topic. Mostly it ususally related to presenting arguments that hurt the election chances of certain democratic candidates. Independent candidates like Cindy Sheehan have been banned from this forum. But the quickest way to get banned and your posts deleted is by mentioning that CD deletes post and bans people. So keep an eye on this post, and goodbye.
thank you CD for re-posting dr chomsky's essay.
chomsky is correct, americans see america as an embodiment of a
decent civilized ideal - it's mind boggling that the fellow earthlings won't willingly subject themselves to our noble ideals.
"Yemenis and Tunisians captured in Thailand and the United Arab
Emirates) "can be imprisoned indefinitely with no rights of any
kind -- as long as they are kept in Bagram rather than Guantanamo."
-- sounds like obama is just tidying up a bit, vacuum the
furniture, take out the dog, move the prisoners from cuba to
afghanastan to avoid any legal obstacles to torture, weed the
garden, have lunch.
-- thank you dr chomsky - for ending w/ the tragic murder of fred hampton -
please watch the documentary, cointelpro: fbi's war on black america (or any footage of fred hampton and the panthers speaking in public).
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cointelpro/
this guy was charismatic, young, bright and an exceptional organizer, exactly the type of person the FBI felt they needed to assassinate.
the elites have always gone to great lengths to ensure that the masses do not see nontraditional alternatives as a possibility. it's beyond censoring nader and kucinich from political discourse.
The US govt murders political dissidents.
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COINTELPRO, AIM & Peltier/ FBI Suppression of Indigenous Activists
in the 1970s: A Primer
http://www.iacenter.org/polprisoners/lp_primer.htm
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The Bombing of MOVE: Urban Warfare in Philadelphia
Allen Hougland
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/hougland_move_massacre.htm
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JUDY BARI SUIT AGAINST FBI REVEALS:COINTELPRO AGAINST EARTH FIRST!
By Bill Weinberg
http://mediafilter.org/MFF/S37/S37cointelpro.html
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there is nothing exceptional about the US government - it stifles and snuffs out alternative perspectives like most governments around the globe.
p.s. - please consider supporting the RNC 8. the right to assemble and organize in the streets is critical. please donate a few dollars for legal support and/or sign a petition to have all the charges against the activists dismissed. let's not forget our comrades who continue the struggle in court.
http://rnc8.org/
"The RNC 8/RNC Eight are organizers against the 2008 Twin Cities Republican National Convention who have been falsely charged in response to their political organizing: Luce Guillen-Givins, Max Specktor, Nathanael Secor, Eryn Trimmer, Monica Bicking, Erik Oseland, Robert Czernik and Garrett Fitzgerald."
...peace...
Well ? What can I say ? We all live in this military hell whether we like it or not. And we all work for it no matter who wants to deny that hard cold truth. If we all had a totally peaceful world, would any of us be posting here or on the blogosphere in general? So I guess all this military hell brings some of us together. No wonder truth and love hurt like hell ! Perhaps, it's not that some can't see the trees or forest but that some won't. And why is this author only talking about Americans? Europeans are doing it too and even Asians are copying our ways. I hate to spill out this truth and it's not just because I love my country to death but as our ideas of imperialism spread like cancer, this nation will no longer be able to find it easy to maintain its imperialistic nature. And one more thing, imperialism didn't start with one country and it won't end in one place either.
LOVE HURTS ! TRUTH HURTS !
"People who consciously and directly work for the MIC will try to put a kind of positive spin on their actions, and project an attitude of mutual helplessness in a war-soaked world."
Then that means blaming everyone including YOU. You work for the MIC too unless you wanna explain your current job in IT and be honest here.
"Moreover, they'll use the diffusion of responsibility argument - look, all those other people are doing it too to some degree, therefore I don't need to feel so bad about my own actions. Hey, we're all just trying to get by in the world, right?"
At least I'm honest about it while you're not. I see you're just fine with "free" trading our jobs away and outsourcing to illegal labor. You never answered my question as to what industry you work for that gives great IT jobs that are non-DoD related which means you too work for DoD but are lying.
"People who consciously and directly work for the MIC will try to put a kind of positive spin on their actions, and project an attitude of mutual helplessness in a war-soaked world.
Moreover, they'll use the diffusion of responsibility argument - look, all those other people are doing it too to some degree, therefore I don't need to feel so bad about my own actions. Hey, we're all just trying to get by in the world, right?
"No, Max, the fact that most Americans pay taxes into the war machine upon threat of financial ruin or life forced underground, is a far different situation than that of the person who willingly makes the choice to work directly for the war machine in order to maintain their comfortable lifestyle in the short run."
There you go again. So if rich people pay more in taxes to the MIC, they're ok to you but those of us who are working from within and actually have no impact but for the end users who use or abuse the finished product are to blame, eh? No wonder the progressives and liberals can't win the working class back or be trusted by our honorable soldiers. Just blame the little guy for everything won't you?
"That person has choices of who to work for and the kind of work they will do, just like most of us do. But that person usually has their own armamentarium of rationalizations to draw upon."
Choices my @$$ ! Choices are limited and you know it. There ain't no wide variety of choices you keep lying about. Everything you do and work for goes towards the MIC whether you like it or not. Why don't you give up your job first and be a luddite before telling others to give up theirs? I'll take your job for you if it is indeed non-DoD related and I like that job. I actually did my homework before I made the tough decisions while you probably got your "free" money from your parents like a welfare queen as you sound. Take your rightwing "personal responsibility" bullshit and shove it up your own rear !
You're from VA Beach as you admitted and there are more jobs in non-DoD cropping up. I used to work in DoD-related jobs myself but after my husband and I realized that we were being worked to death with pay cuts and clippings of benefits, we moved out and settled for temporary but higher paying jobs and most of them were not related to DoD. I live in Northern VA but even Arlington, VA has seen growth in jobs not related to DoD in the recent years. I have relatives who live in Hampton Roads and they confirmed to me that most of the job growth boom in that area were jobs not related to DoD. Wake up max ! VA is no longer as pro-military as it used to be or Mccain would have kept that state. Not happy with Obama but had to start somewhere. There are far more choices and the evidence is out there. Open your eyes and please look out there and support your local communities. As a matter of fact, even in IT there are a rising number of jobs outside of DoD being posted. America's sick and tired of being a military nation and we're all working on all fronts. Now get out of your military bunker and quit being a baby brain ! Even I knew where to quit this nonsense ! I may have to travel a little longer to my current job but at least it has nothing to do with DoD, pays well, treats its employees well, and even makes room for open office spaces instead of cubicles. Plus, we can wear what we want !
I'm still a bit confused as to whether you are doing this work consciously or unconsciously.
"And why is this author only talking about Americans?"
He's paid by the MIC to stir up blind anger amongst the purists as we see here. NC isn't going to care to take that money and build better progressive foundations out of it. Much as he can talk about all Americans being blind, he could take a cue from the Naderite cultists on this site but that will probably happen only when he gives back all the money he took from MIC.
"And why is this author only talking about Americans? Europeans are doing it too and even Asians are copying our ways."
How much money does the US spend on the military, hmm? Compared to the rest of the world?
And if you had actually read the article before making a knee jerk reaction, the author is NOT talking only about Americans. His point, the entire basis of his article, is that Americans are NO DIFFERENT from everyone else, despite the oft repeated myth about the shining city on the hill. That the US, just like other imperialist countries, engages in imperialism. That the US, just like everyone, has long engaged in torture.
Yes, but owing to it's size and it's particular position in the world in the post-WW2 era, it engages in a lot more imperialism than anyone else - so it is still the nation-state we need to focus our dissent towards.
the u.s. is an empire and has been one since its inception. the treatment of indigeneous peoples, the monroe doctrine, the mexican war, slavery, the gilded age, the hawaiian coup, the spanish-cuban-american war, the growth of business setting foreign policy, ww 1 (a massive and monstrous example since we had no skin in that game), nsc-68 and permanent war, korea, mossadegh and iran, arbenz and guatemala, cuban blockade, vietnam, granada, panama, lebanon (the great prevaricator strikes again), gulf war 1, afganistan and iraq the list is long and shameful. the founders, imo, did not view the u.s. as a beacon of democracy or a shining city on a hill but rather a nation based upon the first secular government that would simply try tomake its way in the world. unfortunately the colonial version of 19th century "white man's burden" infected the nation. so the indigeneous had to suffer along with slaves.
kevin phillips' "american theocracy" covers much of this as well as chalmers johnson's "blowback" trilogy and others as well.
exceptionalism must be killed now. because we will find out very shortly as the u.s. is marginalized on the world stage exactly what the price tag will be for centuries of exceptionalism played out on the bones of others.
wait until those who either combine religion and patriotism into a divinely inspired exceptionalism or who are secular exceptionalists have to deal with the base foundation of the psyche destroyed.
it won't be pretty.
'the U.S. has a "transcendent purpose": establishing peace and freedom at home and indeed everywhere'
Be a cynic and look for the hidden truth behind the lofty rhetoric and you will discover that the REAL motivation for Oceania sticking its foot in everyone else's garden is to keep itself relevant where otherwise, Eurasia and East Asia would rise to dominance!! No rest for the wicked! The implication is that Oceania needs an enema! And it's YOUR job! Get the K-12 civics curriculum going. Get the kids to write essays on Oceania's pathetic disposition! Get to work!
I've solicited comment from the National School Boards Association, info@nsba.org, with the following message:
Dear NSBA,
I want to have your comment over at Common Dreams in the forum under the Chomsky article "Unexceptional Americans" regarding the need to get a real K-12 civics curriculum implemented ASAP, including stuff like having kids write essays on the pathetic foreign policy of the USA. Your comment will help drive the public dialog in the direction it needs to go. You can find this open letter copied in the forum. Just reply to that post. Thank you.
I don't believe in hopes but I expected so much more from Obama.
He is better than George but who wouldn't be?
What puts the lie to America's claims of exceptionalism isn't just that we've provenly committed the same kinds of atrocities that other nations have.
Our deepest dishonesty and most insufferable hypocrisy lies is our implicit claim that no matter our all-too-human failings on some levels, '...as a people --we Americans more than any other people in the world -- morally disapprove of such conduct!'
And that: 'More than any other people in the world, WE have a legal system to root out such conduct, make it accountable, and punish it with an eye toward preventing it in the future....'
What total BS.
Obviously, if any of these secondary claims we make about ourselves were true, we wouldn't be pretending to debate whether waterboarding, etc., constitutes torture; or whether Bush Administration officials should now be legally made to answer for their self-admitted actions.
We Americans are exceptional in at least this respect:
We are masters of hypocritical sanctimony -- and of the mass-denial dynamics that such hypocrisy needs in order to keep it safely hidden from our awareness.
Too many Americans are navel gazers.
Based of these realizations/pronouncements by CD readers it makes rational sense for other countries seeking political independence from the U.S. to develop nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction. It seems to be the only way to counter American military threats.
This is the true tragedy of our time. U.S. policy must change. We are in a post-post-WWII environment. New U.S. foreign policy is required that can truly protect Americans and the world.
"We are masters of hypocritical sanctimony -- and of the mass-denial dynamics that such hypocrisy needs in order to keep it safely hidden from our awareness."
How true. But don't you see? This is contrived psyops cognitive dissonance by the elite through the media to control public opinion. It's all about destroying people and making a profit at the same time. See the article by Roberto Rodriguez in today's counterpunch.
"The British colonists were thus pictured as benevolent humanists, responding to the pleas of the miserable natives to be rescued from their bitter pagan fate."
Slough the elite monkeys off your backs, people! Embrace your "bitter pagan fate" of biosphere solidarity, NOW!
Good Damn the Queen!
"Torture is hideous enough; the invasion of Iraq was a far worse crime. Quite commonly, selective atrocities have this function."
I just brainwashed your children with my fantastic K-12 curriculum to make them into my war slaves but I want you to file a police report that I stole your sunglasses. Understood?
Chomsky is so right! We kill ,we torture, we conquer--until we don't.
Prof. Chomsky, You say something in this essay that bears more emphasis than you give it: "Bush, of course, went beyond his predecessors in authorizing prima facie violations of international law."
There is a huge difference between committing atrocities and asking the rest of us to agree it is a good thing. The majority of white Americans, even in the North, were willing to tolerate slavery until the slavemasters insisted through the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 that all US citizens had to help them catch their runaway slaves or face legal penalties. That, more than any other factor, galvanized the forces of abolition, helped elect Lincoln, and led to the Civil War and the legal abolition of slavery.
Bush-Cheney asked all of us to sign on to torture, which previous administrations did not do. They did whatever they did secretly, which allowed us to be as comfortable as Northern whites before 1850. Bush-Cheney changed everything and, based on past US history, that will ultimately make us a better society.
"Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 that all US citizens had to help them catch their runaway slaves or face legal penalties."
Is that like the Healthcare Profits Act of 2009 when all US citizens will have to help big insurance make a profit or face legal penalties?
Bring America Back !!!!........Chomsky says here that 9/11 was unique partly because of the scale of the terror perpetrated by a "non-state actor " !!!
****No wonder Chomsky cannot see either forrest or trees. !
Let us invite him to examine exactly who the occupants were on 9/11 of Bldg #7. World Trade Center--Saloman Bros Bldg.
**I think He will find, if he takes off his blinders, all the usual suspects==state players all; with much means, motive and opportunity !
***Chomsky leads us to think he still believes a cave-dwelling boogieman, and 19 airline pilot school flunkies, pulled off the absolute technical genius which was 9/11.
I think he knows better in his heart, if he has one, and it is not worth reading his several thousand words trying to relegate 9/11 as compared to the invasion of Senegal.
Chomsky is a shill of Mainstream Media who would not know the truth if a branch of it fell on his Astin Martin !
Wise up, Noel.
Bring America Back!!!
I wish it would be possible.
But we will never be whole again.
America has been HIJACKED. Obama can’t alter this crime. He is a wheel, a gofer in the machine like so many.
Take a view with open mind behind the curtain:
>>> www.scribd.com/people/documents/2169400-ep-heidner <<<
Read “Collateral Damage” part I and II.
It will change the way you look at history, politics, finance, war and terrorism.
The details are well researched and referenced. The consequences are BEYOND BELIEF.
Thank you so very much, Noam Chomsky, for these necessary reminders!
All this after he took billions in bribes from MIC? Some "progressive" huh?
I find it rather odd that when people such as Noam Chomsky and Ralph Nader take billions of dollars in bribes or stock money from the Military Industrial Complex, they are praised by the purists on this site. On the other hand, when ordinary Joes and Janes are caught working with companies associated with MIC or are even soldiers themselves, they are often demonized by the cultists on this and other "progressive" and/or "liberal" sites and blogs. I thought that progressives and liberals supposedly stood for the little guy and not the elites but as the mistreatment of maxpayne and Thomas More, both of whom are liberal and/or progressive minded, shows the opposite is happening.
And another thing I noticed is that especially on this site, I notice a lot of disturbing posts that are racist, too much on swearing, and just plain out of touch. It appears that no matter how loud and how irritating some people on this site sound, as long as they purists, it's ok. However, when someone tries to correct such loudmouth whining from purist minds, they're called "trolls". There appears to be a serious identity crisis here and as a pragmatic progressive and liberal, I think we all need to be realistic and rational instead of acting so purist and expecting too much.
If the author would please return all the money he took from MIC, then maybe I could take him seriously.
If he returns his, will you return yours? And yes, you've profitted greatly by it.
I work on a farm of my own sir. I don't take billions from MIC so I have nothing to return. That's a rather lame attempt defending NC.