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Doctors, Single Payer Activists Arrested
Doctors and other single payer activists were handcuffed and went to jail today speaking up for single payer to be at the table in the Senate finance Committee's roundtable discussion on healthcare access and coverage. In stark contrast, Karen Ignagni, head of the industry lobby group American Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) was escorted into the room like royalty by staff members of the Senate committee. Clearly, the position of the United States Senate is not with the majority of Americans who support a national, public insurance system.
It made me physically ill to see Maryland pediatrician Margaret Flowers cuffed like a criminal and pushed out the door as the Senators waited to begin their staged roundtable discussion. It made me want to scream. It made me proud of them for being bold but ashamed that not one Senator spoke up for their own citizen-protestors and asked that they at least be allowed to speak. But the insistence that the citizens rising in protest be arrested continued from the chair with each incident.
Simply asking to have single payer be included and fully vetted is a crime. Profiting as the for-profit health insurance companies do at the expense of 22,000 American lives every year, however, gets you a run of the table in this healthcare reform discussion. Just ask the Senators who are drafting what this nation's health system will look like - and watch their behavior today - if you want evidence of how your voice will be heard in the process.
The protestors were stoic and respectful but direct. One by one they stood. One by one they asked why single payer reform was not "at the table" of 15 witnesses Senator Max Baucus and his finance Committee gathered to map out what sort of coverage Americans might expect in the Senate reform bill now being crafted.
Sen. Baucus eventually spoke and indicated that he was respectful of those who believe in single payer - as he acknowledged many of his constituents in Montana do - but he made no attempt to explain why no single payer voice has been included in any Senate discussion to date. He urged any others in the audience who might have any designs on speaking up like the protestors did to not do so, and then he moved on to his roundtable discussion.
The press seated comfortably at the press table first looked amused and then puzzled by the procession of protest in the chamber. The C-SPAN cameras fixed on both the Committee's table at the front of the room and the witness table directly across from them could have easily picked up the protests but the network chose to keep their cameras fixed only on Chairman Baucus - though the protestors' words could be heard in the audience. Only two reporters of the 20 or so assembled were curious enough or industrious enough to rise and exit the room to see the arrests being carried out in the hallway.
While neither the Finance Committee or the press allowed their proceedings to be disrupted for very long, the air in the room and the atmosphere had changed -- the giddy and gleeful assembly of industry lobbyists who had been chattering in rapt anticipation of the coming of their carefully chosen witnesses could not deny that some brave and patriotic fellow citizens had just been hauled out for arrest for nothing more than demanding that a point of view held by a majority of patients, nurses, physicians and other healthcare providers be included in the national discussion.
While this Congress may pass something very different than single payer reform, it will not do so without hearing the cries of the people left so openly exposed to personal health and financial ruin by the corrupt system that celebrates only profit. The citizens who stood for the thousands and thousands of dead today will not let this democracy give itself completely over to the big money interests in healthcare. Not without a fight. Not on their lives or yours or mine.
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Show AllSo much for my email to my Senator, who serves on this committee, asking them to please include Single Payer supporters.
Solution: Make a wall map of countries that have universal health care (this now includes Rwanda). Get a set of darts. Throw a dart at the wall map and plan to ask for asylum in whatever country the dart lands on.
You've never been to Rwanda .... I'd toss another dart
Sioux Rose
NMLIB: Reminds me of David Lynch's scene in the original "Twin Peaks" where agent Cooper has a female police officer throw a rock at standing cans as he reads off the names of suspects. Alas, synchronicity, what it sometimes reveals to those with a bit of Zen operating.
This will send your blood pressure to boiling.
Senator Charles Schumer-D, NY has set about to DESTROY the "Public" option from the pending Healthcare legislation.
From the NY Times:
Mr. Schumer said his goal was “a level playing field for competition” between public and private insurers...
The chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana, asked Mr. Schumer to seek a solution. In his response, Mr. Schumer set forth these principles:
* The public plan must be self-sustaining. It should pay claims with money raised from premiums and co-payments. It should not receive tax revenue or appropriations from the government.
* The public plan should pay doctors and hospitals more than what Medicare pays. Medicare rates, set by law and regulation, are often lower than what private insurers pay.
* The government should not compel doctors and hospitals to participate in a public plan just because they participate in Medicare.
*To prevent the government from serving as both “player and umpire,” the officials who manage a public plan should be different from those who regulate the insurance market.
The full and unedited story at:
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5142#more-39730
*** By the time the Senate gets finished the "Public" option of the bill will be absolute garbage worth less than a credit default swap.
Single payer advocates cannot sit back and let the insurance industry continue to push its agenda. I'm ready to get arrested for healthcare - where can I sign up?
You make a great point.
Most people may not have been willing "to get arrested for healthcare" up until now.
Maybe the actions of these brave people today--as well as the response--will change all that.
I think more people would be willing to get involved if there ware a web site or meetup or something to connect them to other like minded people--hopefully in their area.
get_arrested_for_healthcare.org or something like that.
I called Senator Baucus's office and expressed my disgust with his actions today and also voiced my displeasure that he is a whore for the big players against the public single payer plan. i must admit i am angry now and wish i lived in scandinavia. We must continue the fight for single-payer.
1-800-828-0498
1-800-459-1887
1-800-614-2803
1-866-340-2981
These are all FREE calls to the Capitol Switchboard.
Ask the operator to connect you to any member of congress.
Many congress members have voicemail so you can leave a message 24hrs a day.
Call as many times you as like.
Post these numbers on every messageboard you visit and include in all your outgoing e-mail.
Lets begin a discussion about when enough is enough. We have never had the ability to communicate as easily as today. For the time being, stay on the side of peaceful activities.
It is time to water the tree of liberty.
Jefferson
I suggest a day in October. Not too hot, not too cold.
Many years ago, Chicago activists were fighting for improved housing in Chicago. They were taking on Mayor Richard Daley, who refused to listen to any members of the community (sound familiar - single payers).
Saul Alinsky, noted activist and mentor of Obama, organized a piss-in at O'hare Airport - Daley's pride and joy. Men were to position themselves at urinals and take 30 minutes each. All stalls, male and female, were occupied by activists with reading material and lunch - sorry Larry Craig.
When you fly, you often rush from the plane to the toilet...and if they are all occupied....occupeed ?
Just the threat brought Daley to the table
A similar action almost took place in Rochester against Kodak. Activists bought front row tickets for the Rochester Symphony and found "volunteers" who were noted for their ability to pass wind. A new wind section...
Just the threat ....worked
We need similar action - a sick-in with projectile vomiters at the capital,
from the balcony - a true technicolor laugh...
Gastric disturbances at any number of public events ..."If only I had health care, I could take care of this little problem" teeshirts
We must show our disgust in creative ways ...
Power to the people !!!
We need a modern day Martin Luther King, Jr or Gandhi to help lead the health care fight.
As I wrote above, MLK or Gandhi would be dismissed by politicians as just some nutty cranks nowadays. They would be ignored by the media - aside from some ridicule. Consider the example of of how Cindy Shehan was treated by the media. MLK or Gandhi would have recieve the same treatment.
King and Gandhi were simply at the right place in the right time - a time when change was already in the air. Things are very different - and not in a positive way, today.
Come now, had the California Nurses Association had paid baucus 1 million dollars they would have been allowed to speak to singlpe payer.
Remember.
You can have all the Free speech you want if you PAY for it.
"Money talks, bullS#@t walks."
Earlier this evening, I saw Russ Feingold on "Democracy Now" almost squirming at Amy Goodman's pointed questions about single-payer.
Feingold tersely said that it had no chance to get passed in this Congress.
Why not, if We the People clearly support the idea? Amy persisted.
Feingold offered an uncharacteristically lame response, to the effect that many politicians didn't want to risk supporting a major program that might backfire and anger their constituents.
He didn't address the merits, or offer any justification for his emphatic assertion that THIS CONGRESS WILL NEVER ENACT SINGLE-PAYER, PERIOD!
Feingold flatly claimed that he supported single-payer, which is commendable, as far as it goes. But when a supporter of single-payer earnestly declares it DOA, how far DOES it go, exactly?
I think he threw in a standard bogus silver-lining, to the effect that Congress would doubtless cough up health-care legislation-- like a cat coughing up a hairball-- containing features that would PAVE THE WAY for the beginning of the end of the beginning of coming to terms and conquering singlepayerphobia.
I'm paraphrasing broadly, of course. But he did slip in the curious hope that our elected officials failing to grasp the health-care nettle is not only the best We the People can expect, but will ultimately have a win-win outcome.
Thus, he all but admitted that the only, or real, reason single-payer wasn't happening is because Congress is so self-serving and pusillanimous that they'd rather stamp their feet and just say "no", regardless of popular sentiment AND especially the obvious MERITS of that approach.
In short: WE can't have it because THEY don't want it!
And, as Baucus demonstrated, the politicians do not scruple to stick their fingers in their ears and yell, "La, la, la, la! I can't HEAR you!" when confronted with righteous citizen protesters-- until the bouncers come to roust the hecklers.
Some representative republican democracy we got here, huh?
· Yr Obd't Servant
Obedient Servant:
I heard that same program this morning. Squirming around on the Cheney thing too.
Very measured...but then he's a lawyer...
I would call my congress Michele Bachmann, however this would be as effective as farting into the wind. She is always on the side of Big Corporations and extreme groups like Concerned women for America, Eagle Forum and Dr. Dobson's Focus on the Family. She proudly wears her ignorance as she is a warrior for jesus dont ya know.
It's a sad day for America when advocates for universal healthcare are treated like criminals, and torturers and murderers are praised as dedicated public servants acting in good faith, promised protection from prosecution, kept in their positions of trust without accountability, continued on their government salaries and promised generous retirement benefits.
We need a march of the uninsured and the underinsured and the ripped off and insured! We need a million people on the Mall in DC and soon. If we don't get in Obama's face and Congress on this then we'll lose. The Dems. are just as corrupt as the rethugs but the difference is they need us to hold onto their seats. We need a BIG BIG crowd in DC soon or we LOSE this forever.
Come on down to Upper Senate Park in DC next Wednesday afternoon, May 13th, and join about 500 nurses and other healthcare activists to make some noise. We'll march to the park from the Washington Court Hotel at noon. If you are in the area or close enough to get there, we'd love to see you and hear you!
It's National Nurses Week, and we're up for some national nurses' action.
Donna Smith, American SiCKO
A thought just occurred to me that maybe we need to DECENTRALIZE our protesting. What I mean by that is not just in DC but more people need to start protesting in their local districts or even at the state capitals where their protesting will most likely hit some nerves with the House reps and senators. Max Baucus would not have acted the way he did had these protesters had been from his own home state. The more people protest in more places for single payer, the more Washington will be fearful of their constituents and not the monied elites. The reason I say this is that no matter what protesting gets done in DC, it all falls on deaf ears. The NRA got to be successful by taking on the pols not only in Washington but also on local and state levels. Maybe we need a more DECENTRALIZED but united effort if we are going to guarantee ourselves success in fighting for single payer healthcare. This effort worked on efforts against gun control so this kind of effort could work for making single payer the norm.
All we need is one person with the swine flu (real or imagined) to start hacking away in the house or senate chambers.
Then announce that they just got back from Meico
That should clear the chambers.
And are the nurses/technicians in the congressional health facilities union. They should walk out on the privilleged.
I also think we need a millions person march for single payer now. I am disappointed in "the left", with the exception of people outspoken and involved in the single payer issue. I even suspect some are sell-outs or just don't care because their own health policies are among the few cushier ones. Being "left" for them, is only fashion. They don't walk the talk. They figure their stories from the nineteen sixties give them a free pass.
There was a march in washington recently that went through dismally, in part, I think, because they are unable to focus on issues of importance affecting Americans' everyday lives in a very immediate way. Like a National Health Insurance Act. If Congress were forced to listen to Americans on healthcare alone, that would have enormous impact on what they'd have to do in other areas -- like military -- in order to deliver. To get them to move on this issue, we need put aside differences that normally divide us in other areas. Like the military. Just focus on single payer health, people. 65% of Americans want this. With roughly similar percentages across parties, and close to 60% of the medical profession, with much higher percentages within specialties.
If enough of us showed up in Washington, and left the signs concerning Iraq and every other cause behind at home, and could shut their mouths about the Middle East and every other hot button issue that turns many of their fellow Americans off, believe me, Washington would listen to us. And I for one, would pay for a couple of bus tickets to the other side of the country in order to be there. Come out of retirement from the demonstrations that no longer represent me, my children, and my interests.
The protests on Iraq and the Middle East haven't been successful either. I'm beginning to think that protesting in Washington alone isn't enough. For example, Max Baucus knows that none of the protesters are from his home state. However, what if more Montanans had protested all over his state and forced the state Democratic Party to pressure Max Baucus? Chances would then be that Max Baucus would support single payer health care under the fear of his constituents. I often think that we need to DECENTRALIZE our protests precinct by precinct rather than centralize them to DC alone.
My opinion of Max Baucus is down to zero. Why did this individual get up and knowingly distort the statistics on American support for single payer? He's not stupid, he knows it's what most Americans want. That mouthpiece for the insurance industry shouldn't be back in office. He's there to do a job for "somebody" and it's not his constituents.
I don't know if decentralization would bring people in more. Perhaps in major cities around the country, with a focus on Washington.
But definitely leave Iraq and the Middle East out of it. Just single payer health care.
Thank you to every individual there who was arrested for their fellow Americans' healthcare.
SEAGLASS
a march on the capital is probably the only thing that's going to counteract corporate influence, though it didn't stop the invasion of Iraq.
it is so clear at this moment that the American people are disenfranchised. Health insurance is such an important part of the insurance industry revenue stream...
I do greatly admire the stalwarts of the CNA and other activists, but at the same time I am so disgusted by the corruption of the system that I am overcome by a paralyzing sense of futility.
the "representative democracy" is simply not working. It isn't representative of the majority will of the people, and it isn't democratic no matter how it is spun.
So far Obama ain't no FDR. He's a corporate shill. Maybe if things get much worse, his testicles will descend...if he actually has any.
This baccus turd has shown nothing but contempt for the people, even those that elected this scum bag. He certainly used his position for a personal political gain to out and out tell the people that for us, there is no debate, just jail. He better never ever come to my house as I will take it a deadly threat to my life and I will act accordingly. And being a democrat does't give him any points because in my eyes all of congress and the president have proven there is but one party and that is the ELECTORATES. And they are 95% of them treasonous bastards deserving of full penalties of the law.
There needs to be and organization that will come up with the people's 'place holders' so when a committee convenes for discussion, the people's place holders will bump the lobbyist's placeholders out of line and when the committee starts its proceedings the people's place holders will be there instead of the lobbyists.
Lobbyists are all criminals that need to the arrested and tried for bribing an elected official.
Here's a thought: Stop paying your medical bills. I have. It's a form of direct action. Don't wait for politicians to grant you a right to health care. Take it.
How about a round of applause!!!! Take what you can from the system and screw the rest....credit cards, loans, outstanding medical/dental bills.
It's about time we stood up and said, "Enough is enough!"
I'm in a bind right now because I was advised to have a biopsy but am concerned that if I am diagnosed with cancer I won't qualify for health insurance (I'm looking for a job that offers health benefits) or that I'll have to wait 6 mos. for treatment because of a pre-existing condition. Shouldn't I be more concerned about my health? I guarantee you not one person in Congress ever has this dilemma over a family member.
I'm also getting tired of the nonchalant attitude of acquaintances who have health insurance. They constantly tell me, "You need to find a job with health insurance!" Or "You need to get health insurance!" as if it's affordable and jobs offering fully paid benefits are so common.
You shouldn't be worrying about such things. Get the biposy, if the news is cancer or other condition, get the treatments that you can, and pay what you can and if you cannot pay, pay nothing.
Your big problem is that if you do require expnsive treatments, you will be denied the treatments if you don't have insurance - in other words, sentenced to die. Assuming you value your live, the next obvious step would be to get a gun and a supply of ammo, enter your nearest oncology center, and demand treatment or some nurses and doctors will start dying. Consider it a legitimate act of self-defense against people who are effectively killing you. If incidents like this started popping up around the US, maybe Congress would do something.
But we are getting way ahead of things here. Get the Biopsy.
The oligarchy has studied the system minutely. It knows that the people won't revolt if it keeps them in debt to its healthcare insurors and its other corporations, banks and IRS. If people are kept well entertained with its media, sedated with its booze, anxious about their jobs, insecure about their safety, in fear of each other, resigned to their religion, spied upon, raided, jailed, disappeared, and led by its puppet politicians.
It's all going well according to plan.
It's only a matter of time until Big Pharma has Xi shooting citizens in the streets.
Is America's Posse Comitatus or just Comatose?
Write a message on an old shoe and send it to your own Senator's local office.
I think what's next is people will start getting so desperate they'll offer to sell a kidney in exchange for a surgery or medication they can't afford.
Stay the course, it's a worthy cause.
Health-care for all citizens needs to be a social right. And the single-payer option needs to be heard.
http://activism101.ning.org
I'm Tweeting this news.
This corrupt system does not even give their combat veterans health care--they use every excuse on their books to deny veterans decent care. If you think this same system is going to pony-up to include the average tax-payer--think again.
They only have enough money to maime, kill, and destroy--there's none for constructive purposes like peace, discovery, health care, schools and industry that serves the common good.
Sioux Rose
ONE CAPTAIN JIM: You see it the way I do and I have a "definition" for these off-KILLter values: Mars rules leaving Venus in a deficit. When the great (cosmic) lovers lose their chi, all things fall asunder. We are seeing in bold evidence the priorities that suit an angry warrior who lacks so much as an iota of concern, care, or compassion for his fellow human beings. This sickness is driving the nation... it takes countless shapes and forms, but I believe can be traced back to the off-balanced ideologies fostered by patriarchal belief systems now on steroids, which are also portrayed by literal aging warriors on viagra given the power and unearned respect to set policy. And you well-articulated WHAT those policies are.
There is no doubt, that our Senators and most of Congress are bought and paid for. The people whom should be in handcuffs, led off to jail, are being given billions of dollars to cover their gambling debts. The blood sucking health care profiteers are treated as honored guests.
The corporations are dismissing people for the stock price and forgettting that once you sell an item you never get another return from it. Until we vote the crooks out and get publicly funded campaigns; this is the kind of demecrocy we deserve. Next, they'll be ordering your own love ones in the military, to shoot you for civil disobedience. But they fail to take into consideration who makes up the military; mostly our sons and daughters. The poor, who's families are suffering, ain't going to shoot their ma and pa.
Sioux Rose
LEAKMAN: I hope you are correct in your assertion, however, there are 2 major forces working against your conclusion. One is a famous (for its results) test done by psychology researchers which showed that 80% of persons will "pull the lever" and knowingly torture someone else if an authority figure tells them it is important that they do so. And second, there is a growing emphasis on authoritarian beliefs and behaviors as furthered by fundamentalist churches which have numbers in the 50 million range. Between TV shows and movies pushing the ideas of enemies versus good guys, and too many religious "houses of worship" pushing the idea of holy war/End Times, a lot of people are LOSING what capacity they had to think (with ethics!) for themselves. Scary, scary these purposeful manipulations of the human psyche. Subtle propaganda is a form of soft torture, and it's busily working its way on millions today.
Seriously, phone calls will do squat. It's time for a revolution...I don't know about you, but most of the messages won't ever reach the intended recipient. Anyway, phone calls don't really push their buttons....anymore than emails. We need to just take what we want through sheer numbers and force of appeal and by our votes. How many times have we gone the phone call/email route? Remember before they passed that mindboggling bailout? Those Senators and Congressmen must have gotten 10x what they're getting now and they still didn't budge. They ripped off the taxpayers like never before in the history of humankind.
ducksawce - now that is a truly brilliant set of suggestions.
Not another March!!! But a march to each of the washington monuments, including the white House and peeing on all of them, plus leaving doggy doodoo bags behind, minus the baggie...
Plus doing same at the local offices of all members of the committee, plus one's own senators, and maybe at the offices of the Insurance Companies and Pharmaceuticals...
Now that would really get everybody's attention...
It's a shame that people like Max Baucus are put in the positions they are put in..This is not the change we can believe in as Obama promised.. Baucus is purposely leaving single payer off the table because if it was on the table,it would prove to be the best solution to America's healthcare nightmare..It would also put Baucus's friends in the for profit health insurance business ,out of business.. Dealing with the for profit health insurance companies to solve our healthcare crisis is like dealing with AL Queda to solve our terrorism problem.
The only difference is the health insurance companies are responsible for more deaths and financial ruin to innocent Americans than was ever done by a terrorist organization.. Yet they are allowed to exist and continue to pillage the citizens of this country with the blessings of a government who apparently doesn't give a damn.. Maybe it is time for a revolution..Maybe more people have to show up at these government healthcare reform charades and let their voices be heard above the voices of the special interests..It's unbelievable that people like Max Baucus are still given credibility as servants of the people... NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
The really scary part of this story is the obstinate refusal of those in charge to even listen to or consider single-payer. For now, they have had their way, but as JFK once observed:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
This problem of the rationing of healthcare is already a big and serious problem that will only grow as the boomer population reaches retirement age. Human beings are not peaceful by nature and when pushed (or ignored) long enough they will resort to violence. An angry army in the tens of millions with nothing to lose will not go quietly in the night.
Everybody knows who the politicians, punditry, and business leaders who are blocking an honest discussion of this issue and it is only a matter of time before hostages are taken, facilities are destroyed, or other forms of chaos will occur not allowing "business as usual" to continue.
Poet
One more demonstration of how corrupt the Senate, which calls itself, "the greatest deliberative body of legislators in the world" (Arelen Specter)is. There is not a body of legislators more sold out and indebted to special interests in the world. The beginnings of a true reform would be a new constitution that eliminates the Senate. Its a bad bunch of individuals but more than that its a bad idea for a democracy which really wants to represent people's not corporate interest.
Yes, but the real demon is the money corrupting our politics.
"Every dictator plans to rear, raise, feed, and train his fellow men as the breeder does his cattle. His aim is not to make the people happy but to bring them into a condition which renders him, the dictator, happy. He wants to domesticate them, to give them cattle status. The cattle breeder also is a benevolent despot." - Ludwig von Mises
"The first truth is that the liberty of democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism-ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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