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Um, No - We're Not Governed "In A Way That Is Entirely Consistent With Free-Market Principles"
"It was hard for me to believe you were entirely serious about that socialist question." Obama later said: "I think that it's important just to note when you start hearing folks throw these words around that we've actually been operating in a way that is entirely consistent with free-market principles."
Obviously, that last part is patently absurd.
David Sirota :: Um, No - We're Not Governed "In A Way That Is Entirely Consistent With Free-Market Principles" Throwing trillions of taxpayer dollars at private banks is a lot of things - it's somewhat socialist in that public money is intervening in the market, though really it's far more authoritarian capitalist. But one thing it is not is "entirely consistent with free-market principles."And really, so much of what our government has always done is entirely inconsistent with free-market principles. Our trade policy, for instance, includes all sorts of protectionist measures (patent and copyright protection, for example) and market subsidies, but prohibits Americans from purchasing lower-priced medicines from abroad. Our national security apparatus is plagued with no-bid (ie. anti-free-market) contracts. Anti-trust enforcement - critical to a free-market - has been gutted in the last generation. The list goes on.
Now, let me say the obvious: While in the aforementioned examples, the brushing aside of free-market principles has hurt the country, it's good news that some of Obama's proposals aren't "entirely consistent with free-market principles" - because in many cases, "free-market principles," left to their own devices, can have catastrophic consequences (see meltdown, 2009 economic). It's a good thing, for example, that Obama promised during the presidential campaign to create a publicly-funded option for universal health care. Likewise, it's a good thing that parts of the Obama administration seem more interested in considering bank nationalization.
What's not a good thing is Obama effectively validating the right wing's frame. In going out of his way to insist he's for the "free market," the president is signaling that he believes that the "free market" must always be worshiped and publicly glorified, even though this is an historic opportunity to reframe the entire debate on far more pragmatic, less ideological, terms.
I'm not saying he has to go out there and say he's a socialist (which, empirically, he most decidedly isn't) - but I am saying that there's a big political risk in his continuing to act as if the right's artificial economic frame must always be respected. That behavior legitimizes the "free market" metric - it says he believes he should be judged on that metric (ie. how "free market" a given proposal is), instead of being judged on other metrics (ie. how well a proposal works) that are far more important.
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Show AllThe name of the game is to "Increase Production"....What does that mean? It means companies are to reduce costs and increase profits.
So, companies moved their factories to places like Indonesia, China, Mexico etc. Places where they did not have to pay health insurance and where they could bribe politicians to control the labor force. If "Communists"(Labor Unions) started a workers' union, the governments would kill the union leaders. "The Haymarket Square Riots" was the first American Experience at breaking up the Workers' Union......
It is the "Political/Corporate Elite" alliance that is willing to let the United States and the rest of the World "Spiral Down" into a "Depression"....These men have been willing to kill millions of people so that they could collect more wealth. The sense of "Entitlement" that these men have demonstrated through their actions since the election of 2000 is beyond belief. Imagine a Supreme Court Justice willing to sell the Presidency of the United States in exchange for a job for his son with a prestigious law firm. Imagine a group of men setting the value of human life at 3 million dollars in exchange for silence in regards to the murders of their family members.
Imagine a small group of men wishing for a "Pearl Harbor Type Attack" so that their "Network of Friends" could make and steal TRILLIONS of dollars from the U.S. Treasury and Departments of State and Defense.
Imagine The same group of men hoping that the President of the United States fails.
"They" have the combined power to: shut factories, close down stores and supermarkets, control the mass media, control most of the natural resources of the world including water, control all sources of power and energy, control over 12,000 Nuclear Weapons, and most of the "Wealth of the World".
Yes, "The Political/Corporate Elite" have won it all.
Sioux Rose
HERBERT: I agree with your assessment and examples as per "the dark side," however the "game" is not over yet! In trying to get all the fiscal weight at the top of their private pyramid, note how it's all coming undone from beneath.
S I O U X,
Yes. The pyramid of power and money ( HATE ) is upside down with respect to the pyramid of Earth's population ( human representation & LOVE is essentially tittering under the weight of greed ).
The more concentrated the wealth, then the more unstable the foundation of people -- that supports everything.
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Namaste
Sioux Rose
You have a fine, many-nuanced profound mind and a definitive artistic streak. I still need help with the website thing. Are you game?
S I O U X ,
Yes I am game.
I have a 'YouTube how to' document, that when I sent it to your AOL account bounced, as it was too big. For this I am working on a web site that you can access, to download it directly. With this I can also demo my ideas for possible chanfges ot your own site.
I'll email you about the web site, as I've decided to launch myself along that way as a hedge.
Namaste
Sioux Rose
Hi. You are the genius in the cyber realm, and as you know, mine is cosmic. I look forward to creative collaborations... now that Moon Dance is done, it's a HUGE load off my mind, and I need to get more serious about relating this work to those who may have an interest. It is a unique hybrid, a VERY long and carefully executed labor of love!
Sioux Rose
TEDDY: Thank you for reproducing Herbert's analysis. It's excellent!
Free Market - Flea Market...just give me my retirment savings back, you bastards!!
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
O'Bama didn't mention WHICH free market principles - Adam Smith's or Milton Friedman's.
Adam Smith's free market relied on the people making market demands in their better interests. Everyone understood this necessity. Lacking it, everyone agreed the elites would destroy the society.
Friedman's free market didn't allow the people participation in formulating their own market demands. They were given choices of colors and flavors but not allowed to choose in the markets the truly important matters of preserving the health of the society.
Friedman's free market thus meant freedom for elites to "set the controls for the heart of the sun", manipulate demand, ignore the rules, collude, speculate, monopolize, plunder and enslave.
Friedmanite capitalism is now "in its last throes if you will". The people can participate in the task of dismantling Friedmanite capitalism by shifting their market demand to serve their own better interests. We can ignore all the elites' marketing messages and shift our exchange away from them and toward our local economies, to take the economic/political power back for ourselves.
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't it "free market" advocate, President (deregulation) Reagan, who created the President's Plunge Protection Team? And wasn't it created to intervene in markets for the purpose of market stabalization?
Seems to me that this "thing" called the free market worked much better for everyone when anti-trust laws were enforced and before Glass-Steagal was destroyed.
There is no such thing as a free market; it has always been manipulated by the power brokers on Wall Street.
Let's look at the membership of the PPT, created via Executive Order 12631 in 1988 by Reagan (Republican) as the Working Group on Financial Markets:
* Secretary of the Treasury - since 1789 under Washington (Founder)
* Federal Reserve - created in 1913 under Wilson (Democrat)
* Securities and Exchange Commission - created in 1934 under FDR (Democrat)
* Commodity Futures Trading Commission - created in 1974 under Nixon/Ford (Republicans)
Barring Treasury, the other members are heads of major government created entities that continuously intervened into the market long before the PPT. I agree their coalescence into the PPT is of major concern, but their impact was hardly negligible at any time of their existence.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12631.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/butler-b/butler-b12.html
Thanks a lot Statists!
Now that you bailed out Citi and BoA, they're leveraging the government to attack small, profitable banks who didn't get involved in the mortgage mess. I guess it just goes to show - when you reward greed, negligence, and evil, you get more of the same.