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Prosecuting the Bush Team?
In the months following September 11, 2001, lawyers in the White House and the Justice Department interpreted U.S. and international law to provide legal support for the administration in its "war on terror." With regard to interrogation of terror suspects, John Yoo, David Addington, Jay Bybee, and others justified the use of such harsh and dangerous tactics as waterboarding and stress positions. In a 2002 memo, they advised that only actions causing severe pain equivalent to "organ failure" would violate the U.S. torture law. Moreover, the memo stated that only if they acted with the specific intention to cause such pain - rather than acting with the primary goal of obtaining information - would the interrogators violate the law. Finally, the memo argued that these interrogations were rooted in an inherent executive power to protect the nation. As such, other branches of government could not review or limit such policies.
The architects of the Bush administration's torture policy clearly wanted to facilitate the use of torture tactics and to insulate themselves from future civil and criminal liability. In the words of legal scholar Jeremy Waldron, they were using the U.S. legal definition of torture as "something to game, a determinate envelope to push."
A new administration is already taking steps to reverse Bush policies on torture and detention. Will it go the next step and pursue criminal prosecutions of Bush legal advisors?
The Nuremberg Precedent
Scott Horton has suggested that the Reich Justice Ministry cases, which were tried at Nuremberg after World War II, furnish precedent for trying Addington, Yoo, and others. The Reich Ministry cases involved prosecution of judicial officials who crafted policies and justifications for detention and killing of Jews, Roma, and other groups targeted by the Nazi regime. Also included in these prosecutions were judges who subverted the legal process by allowing high-ranking executive branch officials to direct the judges to reach certain results. Horton notes that the rulings in these cases established "a particularly perilous standard of liability for government attorneys who adopt a dismissive attitude towards international humanitarian law."
To be sure, Bush's legal advisors were, to say the least, "dismissive" toward international humanitarian law. To take one example, White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales called the Geneva Conventions "quaint" and "obsolete." This attitude wasn't limited to international law. The Bybee memo cited a federal health care statute to define the term "severe pain" as that term is used in the torture law. Of course, it makes no sense to use a statute concerning payment for medical treatment to authorize inflicting pain on a person. This definitional stretch, which would be laughable in a less serious context, is an indication of the unrestrained determination to find and use anything, no matter how inapposite or farfetched, to take the administration where it wanted to go with its torture policies. Federal court rules allow judges to sanction attorneys for making frivolous arguments. Such a "severe pain" argument should be subject to similar sanction.
The Bush advisors were wrong on the law when they suggested that executive torture policies were unreviewable, and they were wrong in their interpretation of the U.S. criminal law prohibiting torture (they admitted as much when they repudiated the 2002 torture memo two years later). In Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006), the U.S. Supreme Court specifically rejected the claim that prisoner treatment need not comply with the Geneva Conventions. On this issue, the Bush team clearly misinterpreted the law and then broke it. But how do we address the damage done to our democratic and constitutional values, to our standing in the world? Should criminal prosecutions be part of that effort, brought either in U.S. federal court or in an international tribunal?
Criminal Prosecutions
U.S. law specifically prohibits torture. It's a federal crime to commit torture, and the Bush advisors sought to interpret that law in a way that would permit such practices as waterboarding. The advisors' actions could be considered a conspiracy to violate the torture law. They themselves didn't engage in prohibited acts of torture, but they made it easier for others to do so.
The problem here is that the actions involved were themselves interpretations of law: State officials were making arguments about what the law meant and suggesting that it should be read narrowly. Horton suggests that lawyers aren't permitted, in such a case, to "get it wrong" and then be excused for doing so. In the Reich Justice Ministry cases, the judicial officials made decisions and created policies that were later found to be illegal, and many of those officials were convicted of war crimes at Nuremburg. The important difference, however, is that the Reich Justice Ministry officials were complicit in a criminal regime. The structural rules of the government were illegitimate, created by a chief executive (Hitler) to preserve and increase his own power.
In the U.S. case, the structuring rules of government were not illegal. The legislature and the courts continued to function according to the constitution, even though the president tried to shield his actions and those of his administration from review. In several instances - authorizing military action against Iraq, detainee treatment, denial of court review to detainees, immunity for warrantless wiretapping - Congress approved presidential actions, thus making it harder to argue that the government wasn't operating according to valid law. In fact, Congress even voted to confirm Jay Bybee to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit after he left the Bush administration. In short, the government's actions were illegitimate but the government itself was, unlike that of Nazi Germany, legitimate.
The case for a violation of international law might seem clearer, in a sense. Instead of defining a particular law narrowly as they did with U.S. torture statute, the Bush advisors said that a particular body of international law (the Geneva Conventions) did not apply at all. In other words, with regard to international law, the advisors denied the applicability and constraining force of a law altogether. Moreover, the Supreme Court expressly denied this administration claim in Hamdan. Again, however, the problem here concerns the provision of legal duties or advice as a crime, and specifically with the "fit" of the Nuremburg precedent. The court there held state officials liable for formulating policies and rendering decisions that assisted in a genocidal project and gave obeisance to a plan of government under which, according to the court opinion in the Justice Ministry cases, "Hitler did, in fact, exercise the right assumed by him to act as Supreme Judge, and in that capacity in many instances he controlled the decision of the individual criminal cases." The court reasoned that this construction of German law left Nazi officials susceptible to prosecution under international law. In the U.S. case, however, the wrongdoing that occurred was done against the background of a political and legal order whose legitimacy wasn't in doubt. The tripartite federal governmental system specified by the constitution operated throughout the period in question, and this fact distinguishes the two situations. This isn't to excuse or to diminish what occurred between 2001 and 2008 in the United States. But the Nuremberg case doesn't furnish an apt precedent for prosecution of the authors of the Bush torture policies.
Political Obstacles
In addition to the legal obstacles to prosecuting the architects of Bush's torture policies, there are significant political obstacles as well. The United States refused to recognize the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court during the Bush years; Bush revoked the signatory status. Obama has indicated an interest in resigning the ICC agreement, but would he then deliver members of the previous administration to that court for prosecution? The likely partisan political tension and fallout from any prosecution, domestic or international, would create a disincentive for prosecution, especially for a pragmatic, centrist president. To be sure, nothing in Obama's executive orders thus far suggests that he intends to review past actions of the previous administration for possible criminal sanctions. The executive order relating to torture is written with a prospective focus, declaring that from Inauguration Day forward the torture policies of the Bush administration will no longer be followed, and that the standards the rest of the world adheres to, including the Geneva Conventions, will govern interrogation of terror suspects. While this statement is a welcome return to the rule of law, it leaves the past actions of Bush's advisors unaddressed.
On February 10, the Obama administration surprised some observers by indicating in court that it would adopt the past administration's posture in a torture-related case. Jeppesen Dataplan v. Mohamed is a suit against the flight planning company that allegedly facilitated the rendition of a terror suspect to a secret torture location. The Bush administration intervened and convinced the trial court to dismiss the suit, claiming that the case involved state secrets and would threaten national security if it were allowed to proceed. At oral argument in the Ninth Circuit, Attorney General Holder argued that the dismissal should be affirmed, rather than reversing the course set previously by the Bush Justice Department. The state secrets privilege is a court-created doctrine that allows the executive branch to terminate litigation simply by claiming that a particular dispute involves national security matters. Critics of excessive executive power hoped that the new administration would at least modify the scope of the privilege, but that hasn't happened yet.
Future of Prosecution
Hannah Arendt explored the problem of state crimes in her famous report on the 1961 trial of Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem. Acting according to German law, Eichmann oversaw the transport of Jews and others to concentration camps as part of his administrative position in the German government. Thus, his official responsibility in the time period of the "final solution" was to facilitate genocide. Arendt points out that Eichmann's trial presented certain novel legal problems: He was a bureaucrat in a criminal regime, following orders to commit monstrous evil. In view of the Nazis' genocidal project, Eichmann's conviction and execution was a foregone conclusion, but the problem of prosecuting state-administered torture and killing remains half a century later. Today, with the issue of criminal conduct by members of the Bush administration, Arendt's question presents itself somewhat differently. Yoo, Addington, Bybee, and others sought to maneuver around legal and political obstacles within a regime outwardly functioning under rule of law. It was they who provided the chief executive with advice and arguments for the policies he wished to implement.
In view of the problems indicated here, it is unlikely that a criminal prosecution of the Bush advisors for their role in propagating torture will occur. This isn't to say, by any means, that their behavior was lawful. Rather, it's a recognition of the realities of the situation, both political and legal. Also, the officials themselves worked to shield themselves from liability, helping to create some of the obstacles facing the nation now as we attempt to reckon with the lawlessness of the past administration.
Certainly, the lessons of the past eight years provide a good reason to resign the ICC agreement. Also, the ethics investigations currently pending against individual officials are important, appropriate, and laudable. While they will yield less in the way of punishment, they also face none of the roadblocks indicated above. These roadblocks only underscore the final, painful lesson: Failure to stand up to an overreaching executive branch compounds the damage that branch can inflict on our system of government by making it more difficult ultimately to hold executive officials accountable.
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Show AllArrest, prosecute, convict, execute, cremate, and scatter the ashes of Bush/Cheney and their henchmen.
NUREMBERG II 2009
Yes!
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Give it a rest. It won't happen.
phuck yoo!
I agree that there seems to be a lack of political will to go after these criminals.
But I must take issue with your distinction that the Bush regime is anything other than illegitimate. Like the Nazi party, the neocons used legitimate channels to implement their dictatorship. The German people did not feel, at least not to the point of resisting, that the Nazis had conducted a coup.
I cannot see why you would try to draw that distinction, when by making the attempt, you provide stark evidence of the horrifying similarities between these two criminal gangs. By ignoring (or completely missing) this, your article appears to be well-placed and insidiously subtle neocon propoganda.
Next, did you consult an attorney regarding the U.S. War Crimes Act?
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002441----000-.html
It's pretty crystalline: if you violate the Geneva convention (and any act w/r/t the torturing, including the memos and videotapes, would be a slam-dunk violation) and people die as as a result (folks were tortured to death) then you may be Put To Death.
NOTHING in the statute says ANYTHING about an illegitimate regime. The statute also provides that if you are in a position to prosecute people you know committed theses crimes and don't do so...you yourself are guilty of those crimes.
Obama, Holder, et al aren't stupid. If they don't prosecute, then they are complicit, and they have to know it. The question becomes ( and the answer for me is, obviously, a resounding, booming NO!) do we let them walk away, heinously wealthy?
I agree with what you say. Too many people have only talked about torture and illegal wiretapping. One estimate is that 100 men were killed during interrogations, mostly in Afghanistan. They died from beatings, hypothermia or other deliberate acts in Bagram and Kandahar. Some readings on that are, The Torture Presidency (book), (articles)"The Torture Memo", "The Memo", "Mild Penalties in Military Cases", "The Court Martial of Willy Brand", "Taxi to the Dark Side","Tortured Reasoning" In this last article Robert Mueller, head of the FBI, admits that he knows of no terror attack that was prevented by enhanced interrogation (torture).
The major reason for war crimes should be the deliberate falsification of information to create a war of agression against Iraq. Many books are out there that spell it out and there is no need for some truth commission: State Of War, Fiasco, Hubris, The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder, Against all Enemies, The Price of Loyalty, Worse than Watergate,The Dark Side,On The Brink. Articles: "The Downing Street Memo", "The Second Pentagon Papers", "Bush's Pentagon Papers: The Urge to Confess", United States vs. George W. Bush et ali". Most of the articles can be accessed on line. All you readers, we need to go beyond venting on websites and also send letters to the editor of our local papers, our members of Congress and the Senate. If there is enough rage out there, perhaps our new President may be pressured to appoint an independent prosecutor or Congress could do it. The last thing we need is a Truth Commission. We need prosecutions!
I have the same problem with this article as other posters:
Paraphrase: The structural rules were illegitimate designed to create and preserve his(bush's/hitler's) own power.
Hitler took a democratic form and tweaked it into a totalitarian state.
Two electronically stolen elections are enough to make an illegitimate government. At Rove's direction and his IT wizard, the recently assassinated , al la Paul Wellstone (remember him? the fervent ANTI-WAR SENATOR), Mike Connell.
Then all the signing statements effectively nullifying Congress?
The threats against Congress of MARTIAL LAW especially during the BANKSTER HEIST?
And generally speaking the "shredding of the CONSTITUTION"?
GF
I wish all your bases would hold water in a court of law, but I don't think some of them would. Nobody's brought charges claiming that Florida and Ohio were fraudulently won by GW. Your case is stronger for the signing statements. But the biggo problem is Congress, who approved everything illegal that Bush asked for and apparently did nothing to undo all those signing statements.
Thepuffin has suggested what I think is the strongest case, the blatant violations of the Geneva Conventions as well as some other US laws pertaining to various constitutional guarantees and human rights. I also think those in the administration directly involved in authorizing illegal activities need to be prosecuted on the basis of conspiracy to violate the Constitution and related American laws.
Glenn is exactly correct. The rich republican criminals currently walking free were planning the Iraq war even before they stole the election of 2000. For the past eight years our government has been TOTALLY ILLEGITIMATE!!!! The republican party is no longer a political party - it is an ORGANIZED CRIME FAMILY and the Capo de Capos is Papa Bush, a TRAITOR in his own right. Until these crimes are addressed there will be NO TRUTH, NO JUSTICE, and the evil bastards will have succeeded in destroying the United States. Our greatest ENEMIES are not from without - THEY ARE FROM WITHIN!!!!!
It seems that the Obama administration is publicizing Bush/Cheney memos concerning human rights and turning some over to the Justice Department. He may be setting the stage for further investigations.
The Jaded Prole
First prosecute the OLC lawyers under the War Crimes Act and let them implicate the administration in their defence.
H O P E
Can be very tenacious and fits into extremely small openings.
I hope so as well, that Hilary's recent pro-Palestinian voice ( ¿ a trial ballon ? ) and the mounting evidence of so many illegal actions -- find their true mark and target.
¿ If not us, than who is { the change } ?
Namaste
« We must be the change we wish to see in the world » — Gandhi
« There is a sufficiency in the world for man’s need but not for man’s greed » — Gandhi
« We adopt the means of nonviolence because our end is a community at peace with itself » — ML King
Justice demands the hanging of about 500 people, republican and democrat, who caused Afghanistan and Iraq, AT NUREMBERG. Only in this way can we prove we meant what we said at that German city.
one old atheist
how can anybody even queston what needs doing?
Castles built on sand ..................
http://www.IndictBushNow.org
What is gnawing at the American conciousness is: how can we possibly go forward without putting this right? If we do not balance criminality with jusice - including the bankers who fleeced us and the jail happy law - then why should we as Americans believe in the system, at all. We need a general srike and should simply stop paying taxes altogether to get their attention. Anything short of that will be met with more words, mere talk and they will wait us out hoping we forget or simply get passed our disappointment. Peaceful means are a strike and a refusal to pay for the waste we are now witnessing. It would be very effective and bring about change without violence.
More to the point will the USA survive as a country long enough to get that evil crowd all decked out in new hemp neckties?
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
The reality here is that the USA under the control of the "far right", conservative, christian* dominated, body politic, has finally shown the world what the Native Peoples have known all along; the USA is a dangerous rogue nation in need of ultra close supervision; or quite simply, dis assembly.
*To those of us who do not "believe" the scariest thing about life on this planet is that it is most often dominated by those who "do". Whether they be Christian, or Muslim, or "god forbid" Jew . The Jews scare the rational of mind with the concept that one people are chosen over others and they treat others badly. The Christians scare the rational of mind because they believe that they will be forgiven anything short of suicide, and they follow the Jews example. The Muslims scare the rational of mind for all of the same reasons the others do, and the Muslims expand that with an immovable Patriarchy ordered by the Caliphate. None of them respect others unless those "others" have power to resist. Whenever they have dominated history will show that, science, art, literature and humanity in general suffers. They destroy their environment wherever they go. They cause and create exterminations of life forms they deem 'worthless' to their purposes. They believe that they have a "superior being" they call "what's his name" and with that they think they have power.
Prosecuting the Bush team is necessary, absolutely, but prosecuting the Germans and Japanese for the same crimes did not prevent the recent violations, even by those who prosecuted the others just 60 years before. Without the concept that a 'people' have "dominion' over others who are 'different' none of these crimes would have ever been committed.
The true challenge is for those who are rational of mind to outlive the "believers", and pass on the wisdom of the denial of superiority "thru a higher authority or power".
If rational thinking had been in control, Mr. Bush and Cheney and the others would never be allowed drivers licenses without an adult in the vehicle with them. Instead the same thing that happened in Germany and Japan, and all throughout history, happened again. In this latest case, the "believers" once more had dominion, and they -------"pee'd in the soup".
Instead of a rational evaluation of the USA's behavior many still believe that the "Lord" is just "testing their faith".
The USA, could change the world by setting the example and prosecute every single violator, from top to bottom, and no death penalty, keep them alive in a small cell for as long as possible. But then, I am not the dreamer I was when I stopped being a "believer", and the USA that I 'know' does not have the integrity to set the positive example, it just does not seem to be in their character, no matter how much they profess the opposite.
Good luck World.
Hi N A T I V E _ S O N,
I left you a reply on today's Boycott Israel thread, about what it really means to be "chosen" -- and where our hope for transformation really begins.
Namaste
Why was impeachment of The Nuremberg President 'off' the table? Is it Dems turn to plunder now?
Nothing is more clear than that we must prosecute members of the Bush administration for their crimes. Anything less would be a crime.
Bring America Back !!!!...Mr Pallitto gives a good analysis of what is needed to bring Bush & Cabal to court(s) of Justice! But, as learned as Pallitto is, he makes the mainstream media error of missing the Forest because all those Trees are in the way !!!!
***King George and team neocons will plead guilty anyday to Torture, indeed they mostly already have admitted it, but what they want us to forget is the lead-up to Sept 11, 2001, and the illegal Pre-Emptive Attack on the largely defenseless Sovereign nation of Iraq !!!
***Pre-emptive Wars are totally illegal in the global international halls of Justice. Bush fully intended a war on Saddam Hussein, considered the undone job of his Dad G>H>W> Bush==despite absolutely no evidence of any connect to the events of 9/11==the Mother of all Attacks on the USA since Pearl Harbor !
***That is the guilt which begs for investigation and prosecution--NOT TORTURE !
***Most Americans feel that the truth of the events of 9/11 have not seen the lights of day, nor have mainstream media reported the Truth. We do know there has been a massive cover-up, the 9/11 Commission was a Sham exercise by political hacks--who have admitted they know they were lied to in their hearings.
***The guilty Neocons just love these detailed analyses of the Torture question, e g, who was waterboarded, who was sexually abused etc, etc, because they know there will never be jail sentences for it !! They also know it is the smoke screen that takes citizen attention away from the main War Crimes !!
Let us not be sidetracked and distracted by Pallitto, and other authors who have lost sight of the real heart of the War Crimes of the past 8 years !
I agree that prosecution of individuals under the laws of the land is essential in order to maintain legitimacy of government. Irrespective of country or regime the first obligation of all government is the application of law. The laws must be fairly applied, and seen to be so by the general population, and it is obvious that no person can be above the law. These concepts are fundamental to any government.
The evidence of manipulation, intrigue, and conspiracy to perpetrate and hide responsibility of crimes show that to the core regimes around the world are failing. Never before in the history of mankind have the interests of the elite been so protected or has the tyranny of wealth and power been so well represented in its ability to subvert justice and the rule of law. The individual has never had to face such a wealthy and powerful evil.
Where to begin? That money is at the root of power and politics is a known and an obvious understatement. A system has been evolved that causes the winner (he who, defines the wind = makes the laws) to be rewarded for sailing ever closer to the wind. It is easy to imagine that those least enfranchised and most aggressed by the unfairness of the system will be those who see no possibility or point in orderly, “peaceful” redress through application to the “authority” of justice. They can only take their own crude and sometimes violent methods to redress obvious and perceived injustice. Yet we call Hamas and Iraqi insurgents terrorists, and justify yet further aggression against them when in fact we know it is our system that is failing. We know they are suffering illegal wars and occupation.
Where is the independent investigation of election fraud and manipulation in US 2000 and 2004 elections, or a legitimate, uncompromised and comprehensive independent review of the crucial events of 9-11? The lies and deceit in UK and US on which wars were fraught and millions of lives were sacrificed are now known and documented, yet we are told that the “national” or is it “political” sacrifice would be too great to pursue the perpetrators. Who has been sacrificed already? Who are we asking to make a sacrifice? How can the west arrest Israeli war criminals?
Looking only at torture and infringements of international laws of torture and human rights is dealing merely with the symptom. What is needed is a proper diagnosis and the removal of the underlying cancer that is not only killing America but has mastisized through globalization with domination of money and power interests above the rational and the human. From Tokyo to Berlin, from Moscow to Khartoum we find the same disease. Therein lays the seeds of a vast coming anarchy. People will always eventually rise to defeat tyranny. All the suffering that this will entail could be averted by now forcing the application of the laws we already have. Only evil triumphs from perpetuating injustice.
joehope is right, it won't happen, primarily because Obama and company are already hellbent on continuing the neocon policies of Bush/Chaney
The double-talk legalese must be discredited as part of the investigation--"only if they were intent on pain vs. information are the tactics illegal." This commentator's view is depressing because it suggests legalistic mumbo jumbo can triumph over common sense and honoring the Geneva conventions. Similarly it's pathetic and disappointing how Obama now honors the Iraq conflict with extention of 50000 into 2011. More action and less timidity from Obama would be good, especially with the GOP falling down all over itself.