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America's Municipal Meltdowns
In a speech at Elkhart's town hall, Obama caught the town's plight dramatically: "[This] area has lost jobs faster than anywhere else in the United States of America, with an unemployment rate of over 15 percent when it was 4.7 percent just last year… We're talking about people who have lost their livelihood and don't know what will take its place… That's what those numbers and statistics mean. That is the true measure of this economic crisis."
Elkhart, as it happens, is but one of countless towns and small cities across the U.S. that have proven particularly vulnerable to tough times simply because their economies relied on just a few major employers, or a single industry, or even a single company that has gone under or cut back drastically. Places like Elkhart are feeling the pain in ways most of the country isn't -- yet; and even worse, from the out-of-work to local officials, no one knows how to stop the bleeding.
Take Dalton, Georgia, and its 33,000 residents. As the self-proclaimed "Carpet Capital of the World," it wasn't exactly well positioned when the foreclosure crisis hit and the construction industry ran off the rails. In fact, with its carpets piling up underfoot rather than heading out the factory doors, the housing crisis has all but wrecked Dalton which, from the 1980s to last year, had never been at a loss for jobs. Now, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports, U.S. Bureau of Labor statistics show the Dalton metro area ranking "second among 369 American cities in its rate of job loss, jumping from 6.2 percent to 11.2 percent last year."
Across the country, individuals, foreclosed or suddenly jobless, have been melting down like the economy and so bubbling up into the news in the form of extreme acts ranging from suicide and murder to arson and robbery. The same might now be said for news about whole troubled communities.
A few months ago, stories of economically-troubled towns were strictly local fare. Now, more and more of them are rising to regional or national attention. Take Lehigh Acres, Florida, a community that's home to large numbers of carpenters and pest exterminators who rode the housing boom until it went bust in a county that, between June 2007 and June 2008, lost a higher percentage of jobs (8.8%) than any other in the nation. A New York Times article on the "once-middle-class exurb" detailed the devastation:
"[H]omes are selling at 80 percent off their peak prices. Only two years after there were more jobs than people to work them, fast-food restaurants are laying people off or closing. Crime is up, school enrollment is down, and one in four residents received food stamps in December, nearly a fourfold increase since 2006."
Similarly, the Wall Street Journal profiled the plight of Rockford, Illinois, an industrial city about 90 miles northwest of Chicago with 12.5% unemployment, the highest in the state, a shortfall of $7.6 million in the city's budget, streets filled with "gaping potholes" and a "city center… rife with vacant storefronts."
Most of America's desperate towns and small cities, however, still remain relatively anonymous. Even with their pain quotient on the rise, they lack New York Times profiles or presidential photo ops to draw attention to their woes. But it's important to note that Elkhart, Dalton, and Lehigh Acres aren't American oddities. Other towns and cities in surprising numbers are following fast down the path they have already cleared. Such places are now hurt or possibly, in some cases, even dying -- with little in the way of hope or help in sight. Under the circumstances, they should no longer be treated as individual stories, locally or nationally. They represent a pattern, and putting even a small number of their stories together casts a light on a disturbing countrywide trend that may determine the tomorrows of a remarkable number of Americans.
Tough Times in the East
After Governor Deval Patrick slashed aid to municipalities across the state, the "cash-strapped" town of Winthrop, Massachusetts, was left with a $512,000 budget gap. As a first step, the town axed its $117,000-a-year police chief and is now considering shuttering its public library. "The library has gotten a lot of attention, but if it's not the library it's going to be something else," said Winthrop Town Council President Thomas Reilly, a 40-year veteran of local government. "This is the worst I've seen," he told the Boston Herald.
Tough times have even reached tony Greenwich, Connecticut, which, the Greenwich Time reports, is looking to cut $5 million from its proposed 2009-2010 budget, in part through layoffs as well as a wage freeze for public employees. This famed haven for the rich is also experiencing joblessness "near a record high that has not been seen since the withering downturn of the early '90s."
West Warwick, Rhode Island, a textile mill town that, according to its website, gave the world the "Fruit of the Loom" trademark, is another municipality in dire fiscal straights. In early February, West Warwick announced that it could not meet its obligations on a multi-million dollar lawsuit settlement stemming from a nightclub fire and that its school system was $3.5 million over budget. "There is no way that we can tax our way out of this problem," Town Manager James Thomas told local television station WPRI.
Tough Times in the South
The small Appalachian town of West Jefferson, North Carolina, like its northern brethren, has also been hit hard. A recent Associated Press report noted that in a little more than a year, "the town and the neighboring county seat of Jefferson have lost more than 500 factory jobs -- a number equal to 20 percent of the town's population." All of this resulted from crucial town businesses like its light-switch plant, which had long benefited from the housing boom, shutting down, sending ripples through its heavily manufacturing-dependent economy. As a result, other local businesses, from Thistlewood, a women's clothing boutique, to a Dodge car dealership, are shutting down as well. It's a symptom of the times that the local food bank is now feeding nearly 50% more families than a year ago.
When the Peanut Corporation of America plant linked to the 2008 salmonella outbreak decided to lay off almost all of its 50 workers in January -- the company has since filed for bankruptcy -- it was a hard pill for Mayor Ric Hall of Blakely, Georgia, to swallow. After all, it was one of the two main businesses the town of 5,700 -- and the self-proclaimed "Peanut Capital of the World" -- relied on for its economic wellbeing. In a sign of the times (and perhaps of the collapsing newspaper industry), the other, a newspaper production plant, had already announced plans to lay off at least 100 workers. "We're already struggling with high poverty and a struggling agricultural economy, and this will impact not just our community, but this entire region of the state," Hall told the Los Angeles Times. "That's a total of about 150 to 170 people who have lost their jobs," he said. "Being the small agricultural community that we are, the prospect of finding new employment is virtually impossible. People here don't have much, and the layoffs make it even more devastating."
Times are tough in Dillon, South Carolina, too, the town where Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke grew up. Just recently, his childhood home was purchased at a foreclosure sale -- an all-too-common occurrence in a town already long battered by the decline of the local tobacco and textile industries. Now, writes the Wall Street Journal, it's "facing a fresh assault of plant closings and layoffs that have pushed its unemployment rate to 14.2% -- almost double the national average." As in so many other places, the catastrophic housing and automotive markets have hit Dillon with hurricane force. Mohawk Industries, which made yarn for carpeting and employed 137 people in town, shut down, while Wix Manufacturing, which produces automotive filters, has slashed employee hours and some jobs. In fact, just outside of town, at South of the Border, a faux Mexican-themed "village" of souvenir stops, restaurants, and low-rent attractions where Bernanke once worked, business -- which depends on vacationers trekking down the East Coast to Florida -- is off 10%, the worst downturn since the 1973 oil crisis, according to Richard Schafer, the patriarch of the family that runs the tourist trap. "People are losing their home and jobs," he says, "and they're not traveling as much."
Tough Times in the Midwest
Wilmington, Ohio, is another company town whose fortunes have plummeted. After overnight shipper DHL shut down its domestic courier service, the town went into a tailspin. Already, 3,000 jobs have been lost at the local airport. Within months the number is expected to rise to 8,000, according to an Associated Press report. As a result, in the town of 12,000, new claims for unemployment benefits are the highest they've been in 26 years and many businesses are facing the prospect of closing down, as is its hospital. "I think one in five small businesses will fail or could fail," says Wilmington's mayor David Raizk. As a result, more and more families are visiting local food banks, while community leaders are promoting backyard gardens as an inexpensive way to help feed families. In fact, Wilmington College is even opening up gardening plots on its property for needy townspeople.
In Lordstown, Ohio, a town of 3,600, General Motors and its 5-million-square-foot plant was the lifeblood of the community. In January, however, GM told 2,800 of its more than 4,000 Lordstown workers to stay home for the month. At the end of the month, 800 of them were told not to return. Now the town, which derives 75-80% of its tax revenues from the auto plant, according to the Youngstown Vindicator, is facing ruin. "We're a one-horse town in that regard," said Mayor Michael Chaffee, who estimates, according to a CBS Evening News report, that for every GM job lost, at least two others are needed to replace it, due to pay differentials. Meanwhile, the Lordstown village council approved a wage freeze for its full-time workers and 60 part-time employees and is looking for other ways to cut costs, like suspending capital improvements like road repair. Elsewhere in Ohio, other GM towns are feeling Lordstown's pain. At GM's engine and transmission parts plant in Defiance, for instance, 100 GM employees were being laid off in mid-February.
GM isn't the only source of mid-Western woes, though. In recent months, massive layoffs by businesses in downtown Des Moines, Iowa, have caused great economic hardship. And the situation won't be getting better soon as software giant Microsoft recently shelved plans to build "a $500 million data center in West Des Moines" that would have brought with it 75 new jobs. On top of that, just this month the American Enterprise Group, a local insurance company announced 51 layoffs; the Des Moines City Council announced 88 jobs cuts; while the Des Moines County jail is contemplating unpaid furloughs or layoffs and a scheme by which inmates would pay for their own toilet paper. Robert Crandall, the executive director of the Bidwell-Riverside Center, a food pantry in Des Moines, noted that the number of families his group was serving had risen as much as 33% in recent months. "The really sharp [jump in numbers] started late summer, early fall," he told the Des Moines Register.
Tough Times in the West
In the West, California dominates the news with a seemingly endless string of stories about the deepening crisis faced by towns (sometimes in that state officially labeled "cities," even with populations of less than 1,000). El Centro, California, for example, boasts an eye-popping 22.6% jobless rate -- and while this is the highest rate in any metropolitan area, it isn't even the worst case in the state.
"We have a major problem to deal with," Mayor Robert Silva of Mendota, California, told local TV station KFSN in January. A month earlier, the "Cantaloupe Capital of the World" (population: 10,000) experienced the greatest spike ever in its unemployment rate. At an astounding 35%, it was clearly in a local Great Depression, whatever the rest of the country was in. In a rich agricultural area, it was also in a great drought as water supplies dwindled, fields were left fallow, and farming jobs dried up. Not surprisingly, with so many out of work, local businesses are suffering. Among the hardest hit are fertilizer and irrigation equipment suppliers as well as trucking companies with nothing to transport. "And, of course, it all trickles down to hairdressing shops, restaurants and other small businesses in town," Sarah Woolf of the Westlands Water District, which provides water to more than 600 family-owned farms in the region, told the San Jose Mercury News. Silva, who also works as a manager at a local store, agrees: "We're down 20% like all business in Mendota. Everybody's down." The fallout from the agricultural crisis has also hit the housing market where, the Wall Street Journal reports, Mendota's home sales "fell to fewer than 10 in the fourth quarter of last year from nearly 100 in the second quarter of 2007; [and] median prices dropped 37% to about $175,000 from a 2006 high of about $275,000…"
Things are only slightly better eight miles north in Firebaugh (population: 5,700), which saw its jobless rate climb to nearly 23%. In that town, too, the crisis is intimately linked to drought conditions across California. "I would call it the perfect storm or compound crisis," said Firebaugh City Manager Jose Ramirez.
In Rio Vista, a town of about 7,000, "plummeting property and sales taxes and building fees due to the housing bust, and a drop in funds from the state" have led to a $900,000 deficit in the local budget, according to a report in the San Francisco Chronicle. As a result, Rio Vista was forced to lay off four employees and leave 20 already vacant full-time jobs empty, freeze salaries, cut recreation programs, and adopt a four-day work week at city hall. The austerity plan has so far staved off bankruptcy, but the wolves at the town's door didn't have far to travel to find easy prey.
Maria La Ganga of the Los Angeles Times recently reported that Rio Vista's neighbor, tiny Isleton -- a half-square mile town with just 817 residents -- is almost $1 million in the red and fighting to stave off bankruptcy, if not dissolution, due to its seemingly insurmountable debt. "Some people have said, 'Just hand it over to the county and go home,'" said City Manager Bruce Pope. But while Isleton's case is among the worst in the state, it's hardly alone in its fiscal anguish. La Ganga notes:
"Vallejo, 36 miles northwest, filed for bankruptcy protection in May. Watsonville closed all city services except police and fire for two weeks over the holidays. Calexico declared a fiscal emergency… The state's 10 biggest cities are more than a quarter-billion dollars in the red this fiscal year. Next year, San Francisco and Los Angeles predict a combined $1-billion deficit."
Big Cities Going Bust in Tough Times
San Francisco and Los Angeles are far from alone. The one- or two-factory towns lacking economic diversity and suffering mightily for it may be harbingers for the fate of the bigger cities, many of which are already facing financial hardships. After all, as CNN reported, Labor Department statistics show unemployment rates rising "in 98% of metropolitan areas across the country in December."
In Chicago, recently named "the third most miserable city" in the United States by Forbes magazine, "unemployment is expected to rise to 9.2 percent… and major layoffs have hit local powerhouse employers including Midway Games, Motorola and the University of Chicago Medical Center."
In January, during his fourth State of the City message, Mayor Jerry Sanders of San Diego painted a typically grim picture, citing "a $54 million deficit, scaled-back city services, higher fees, layoffs and mandatory water rationing." And it could get much worse, he told San Diegans. "This year, an even larger deficit looms. Sacramento [the state government] is more likely to hurt us than help us, and we'll again need to make painful decisions. That scenario could repeat itself, next year and the year after." Subsequently, Rani Gupta of VoiceOfSanDiego.org -- San Diego's non-profit on-line site that has been hailed as a new model for news gathering -- reported that estimates of the city's budget gap by a former mayoral candidate's think-tank actually top out at more than double the mayor's figure -- an astounding $128 million.
In New York City, 65,000 jobs were lost in the last three months of 2008 alone, while the jobless rate jumped from 6.3% to 7.4% between November and December. Mayor Michael Bloomberg has estimated that an additional 300,000 job losses, including 46,000 fewer jobs on Wall Street, are expected to clobber the Big Apple by year's end. At the same time, a report by investment bank UBS suggests that such losses may translate into a 10.5% unemployment rate, "a level not seen since the mid-1970s."
Meanwhile, New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) is considering a 23% increase in fares and tolls, the elimination of multiple subway lines and more than 24 bus routes, among other measures to help close its own $1.2 billion budget gap. The MTA is just one of many big city transportation authorities looking to make giant cuts in tough times. Recently, the New York Times reported that "[t]ransit systems across the country are raising fares and cutting service even after attracting record numbers of riders last year." A particularly dire case is St. Louis, where "despite rising ridership, the transit system plans to lay off a quarter of its work force and make drastic service cuts to balance its books." Boston, Atlanta, and San Francisco are facing similar tough choices when it comes to cutting subway or bus services, raising fares, and potentially leaving significant numbers of city and suburban dwellers high and dry.
Troubled Towns and Troubled Times
Stories about the economic woes facing individual cities and towns are already a staple of national newspapers, even as the bad news, experts believe, is only beginning to flow in. Spikes in unemployment already reaching double-digit levels in some cases, municipal governments deep in the red, essential cutbacks in local services, increasing lines at food pantries, towns facing bankruptcy or even contemplating municipal suicide are increasingly common nationwide.
Towns like Elkhart, Lehigh Acres, and Mendota may now be media poster-towns for tough times nationwide, but most distressed small towns are still suffering in silence and, as a group, they may only be the proverbial canaries in the coal mine. It isn't surprising that towns which relied heavily on the collapsing auto industry and the building trades are going belly-up first, but what about the rest of America's towns and even big cities? The same economic forces are battering them, and while they may have been able to withstand immediate collapse, there's no guarantee that town after town won't be deep in the red, drowning in joblessness, and facing catastrophe as the American depression drags on.
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Show AllHere in my small NW town I see more empty stores every week it seems. WalMart still has a full parking lot though. With a bare-bones police force (no money in the budget for more, and it's going to be even worse soon), the swelling gangs are getting ever bolder, and now break into homes in broad daylight. They don't worry about a call to 911 because they know the real emergencies come first. I can see the time coming when marauding gangs will be the major problem across the country, when martial law will become the law of the land.
I think you have something there. With all the weapons floating around in the US, and with all the coming despair and the rampant cynicism, I strongly agree that marauding gangs will be a significant problem in the years to come. And with utilitarianism dead, as the plutocrats and politicians provide nothing but platitudes about the greater good, I foresee no real help coming from Washington to deal with the problem.
Yes, we small towners already know that. In fact, we've been written off by both conservatives and progressives for decades so what's new? Besides, in my state, it can feel depressing at first but once you get used to it, well, you get used to it. It's tougher hell trying to talk sense into my conservative friends and coworkers the more depopulated my state gets but I'm not giving up.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
The small town crisis is of course real. There is no particular help in the "stimulas" bill for them. Now if they just had a mouse that needed habitat, I could get them millions.
The situation in Elkhart, Indiana is somewhat unusual - I am saying this without having the numbers to back my comment:
I am not sure that building RVs is a viable industry in the long run, or even desirable. Using certain models as emergency and temporary shelter (such as after Katrina), or as low cost housing is one thing. In that case, they shouldn't be called RVs. However, building RVs so people can drive around the country, viewed from an environmental sustainability point of view, seems like an indulgence. Occasional indulgences such as this can still be possible by renting an RV - but if only rental agencies buy RVs, then their total sales will be down. Driving around the country in RVs is NOT common in most countries. So to have an unsustainable industry as the major employer in a town is really unfortunate. I don't know what Obama was thinking when he (and his team) chose this town - I guess it must be for its unemployment percentage. Does it mean, that raising production of RVs for the sake of employment is desirable?
Elkhart, Indiana is perhaps just one example of towns and communities dependent on unsustainable industries. It is not the fault of the residents and the workers - and that is why it is all the more unfortunate. There are also other places where a major employer could be a weapons manufacturer or a meat industry - and once again, the people who work there are just cogs in a giant, heartless machine. Once set up, such industries take on a life of their own - any change towards a more sustainable economy is a huge challenge. May be it's time to bring back more 'traditional' industries and start building buses and trams once again. I am just thinking out loud...
well... you took my line about RV's and sustainability...
the other thing... people STILL laugh at H. Ross Perot.
He called it. 100% dead on in 1992. Debt and Deficits.
Run up by Ronnie RayGun. Chronicled in Naomi Klein's 'The Shock Doctrine'. dubbah just put the whole thing on steroids.
then Perot fought and paid to lobby against NAFTA a.k.a. "...a giant sucking sound...".
too late. mccain in a moment of candor said it... "...those jobs aren't coming back..."
Perot said it over and over... millions and millions of workers paying taxes is what makes a strong economy... well those millions and millions of workers are everywhere but here... and not paying taxes...
and "free trade" is 40% of multinationals doing business with themselves. shipping in cheap crap tariff free after benefiting from $3/day workers. and not paying taxes...
add in a few wars. tax cuts for the rich. dergulation of finance. health legislation written by lobbyists.
and that giant sucking sound you hear now is the bottom 90%'s wealth going up.
trickle down indeed. everything's opposite. reminds one of alice in the looking glass.
methinks it just broke.
squidd, I see many comments looking back at the last 20-30, or may be even 35+ years...At least the folks who read sites such as CD and post comments know about all the BS that was served out all these years. But it has taken a crisis like this for many people to wake up - and even now, not completely. The only hope going forward is for more and more people to wake up, and not depend on the mainstream media to tell us what's going on around us. People talk about RayGun and other presidents. What about Congress? Why can't more decent, knowledgeable and honest people get into Congress?
Increasing fares and cutting back on public transit in times like these is not only really stupid public policy but is indicative of an American mindset that says "you're on your own." Such a policy drastically reduces the ability of low-income people to get to and from a potential job, for example. It leads to a self-fulfilling downward spiral. Stupid. Insane, actually.
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OleManRiver, you know what? Your comment makes me think - how come no one thought of working THAT into the stimulus package? Lowering transit fares (where transit exists), so people can go out job hunting or do whatever it is they have to do? Or, increase transit services - that would also add to the jobs?
Transit should be free or nominal cost to the rider (much as the water supply). Not only will it allow people to get to work and seek jobs but simply getting out of the house and going somewhere like a park, museum or art gallery etc. is good for mental health in these troubled times.
Well said.
Don't forget that a lot of companies are cutting down on reimbursing their employees for mass transit. Plus, if you're on a temporary contract job, forget even thinking about getting reimbursed. You better figure out how much you'll end up paying per month. It's a mess out here in the Washington DC metro region and every now and then another business scandal from top management.
Remember that this whole scenario of depression is the legacy of George Wanker Bush. This is how he left the office he stole twice--a country in ruins. And yet, remarkably, there are still Republicans in Washington working feverishly to continue and extend the very policies that got us into this economic quicksand. Must have something to do with Family Values, or Homeland Security. Impoverish the country to the point that we're forced to rely absolutely on no one but our closest kin, and we're so dirt poor and starving no country would want to attack us. We've done ourselves in, with plenty of help from Bush, Cheney and their patriotic friends on the boards of all the biggest banks and corporations. So this is what democracy really looks like!
Actually, this started back with Nixon lowering the gold standards, Ronnie Raygun promoting his Raygunomics ideology, and Bill Clinton continuing it and adding "free trade" scams. Dubya only added to it.
Very true. It's not all W's handiwork but the "adding to" was the coup de grace for the whole shebang. Nixon, Reagan and Clinton arranged the stage setting but Bush brought the dynamite to reduce it all to flinders. But you're right: it's been a team effort all along, very bi-partisan indeed.
35 miles south of Elkhart is Warsaw Indiana, the orthopedics capital of the world. Due to America’s obesity problems hip and knee joints are wearing out in record numbers. Drugs like Vioxx that were once prescribed freely to treat joint pain are now prescribed less frequently due to their correlation to heart attacks and strokes. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also were good for the orthopedics industry.
Jobs in the orthopedics industry pay very well as they are very high tech. Kosciusko County where Warsaw is located boasts 100 natural lakes so the area also has a tourism industry that has seen a fall off in economic activity and the many marinas in the area are seeing their business dry up, as it were. But all in all, the economy of Warsaw is doing pretty well. Having said that, Warsaw is the exception that proves the rule that towns and cities in the Midwest are having extreme economic hardships. The automotive industry that was once centered in Michigan and adjoining states has diversified across the nation as foreign manufactures open plants far away from the Midwest. Agriculture has not been very profitable 19 out of the last 20 years and the prices of corn and soybeans are down over 50% from their peak last summer. The much touted ethanol industry in the Midwest is teetering on collapse, VeraSun, the second largest producer of ethanol in the U.S. is in chapter 11 bankruptcy and all of the VeraSun ethanol plants are sitting idle. Ethanol experts doubt that VeraSun can be made profitable even after reorganization.
Outsourcing ravaged the industrial base of the Midwest, as factories were shipped south of the border many empty factory buildings were bulldozed to remove them from the property tax rolls. In many towns in Indiana over 1/3 of the commercial real estate is sitting vacant. Since outsourcing started in the mid-90’s Indiana managed to avoid the real estate bubble. Since there weren’t any jobs and there were lots of vacant residential real estate housing prices didn’t raise nearly as mush as other markets in the U.S. Currently with there being a lot of foreclosures you can buy a decent little house for $20.000.00 to $25,000.00 in some towns and even less in the inner cities of towns like Fort Wayne.
One of the reasons Elkhart’s economy had been good was that many of the FEMA trailers were manufactured there; it was a pork barrel project that attempted to prop up Chris Chocola and Mark Souder in the House of Representatives. (Souder is still there, a very conservative democrat, Joe Donnelly, replaced Chocola in 06) The FEMA trailers that reek of formaldehyde were built in Elkhart County. Their manufacture claims that the formaldehyde fumes came from defective plywood manufactured in China.
"In many towns in Indiana over 1/3 of the commercial real estate is sitting vacant."
And that is the next thing to hit. The commercial real estate bubble inflated right along with the housing bubble. It won't be long before those mortgages blow out and sink us further into a giant black hole. Will the taxpayers be forced to bail out those bad loans also?
d.k.shaw
While there is a little bit of new commercial real estate that is vacant like 80% of the strip mall that was just built next to the new Wal Mart super center in Wabash Indiana, most of the vacant commercial real estate in Indiana is older, either the abandoned central business district or suburban malls that have lost a lot of their tenants. There’s another strip mall that you have to drive past to get to the Wal Mart that had a lot of vacancies so they tore part of it down to make room for the Wal Mart.
The main reason Indiana has “out of state fireworks” (skyrockets and firecrackers that are, wink, wink, illegal to set off in Indiana so they are sold to be set off outside of the state of Indiana) is to provide a part time business that can generate enough income so the building owner can pay his property taxes on an otherwise vacant commercial building.
It’s been a few years since I’ve been up to The Region (Indiana’s Chicago suburbs) so I don’t know what their commercial real estate market looks like. 10 years ago that area was growing fairly rapidly. The rest of Indiana’s towns are in a world of hurt excluding the wealthy northern suburbs of Indianapolis and one or two towns that haven’t lost their industries.
I saw Donald Trump saying it's a buyers market a couple of days ago, but that may be B.S. since he owns a buttload of real estate.
Brother, can you spare a dime?
gnken
Well so far "knock on wood" Im still employed. At age 53, I have seen 5 recessions and each one looks worse then before. One of serveral interest of mine is Railroading. I have friends, that are in nursing homes now or have passed away that had to revert to riding freight trains following leads of public works projects during the depression of the 30's. Now days I guess if a person were to hop a freight to get say to a location for finding work would be arrested and jailed and then unable to get employed due to a criminal record and violations of Post 911 transportation laws. Such small infractions as camping on public land, shooting a deer because someone needs food for there family are all acts of crimes now and you dont have many resources to living on your own as the economny continues to fall. This time there wont be a quick recovery.
But a survivor from the Great Depression has assured me the sun will aways rise and set and so will the nation. We will survive.
Where will healthcare get the money to maintain itself? A lot of the pharmacutical industries are laying off due to the reason people cannot afford and do not want to be their guinea pigs any longer.
They can train and hire massive amounts of health care technicians but a lot of my boomer buddies are losing their $50,000 dollar and above jobs. No one can afford to pay the $500 or so a month which is only the beginning.
Buy a home? No thanks the taxes are just too high and the asset is worth less every year.
The only hope is to become a top executive or ceo. Anyone can loose money as good as the rest so all are qualified for the positions.
Don't sleep too well at night politicans, teachers and others supported by taxes. People not working will not be able to pick up the tab for your pensions. Even as the politicans raise taxes for the pensions the tax raises are going to anything but.
Uh, not all teachers are subsidized.
Kudos to the boosters of mass transit!!
Trains and rails are broken down in New York, Boston, and yes, Ontario. And, there is such a shortage of train cars (and buses) that they skip by scheduled stops.
Same here in the Washington DC area. Poor service and yet obscenely higher fees is just plain disgusting. Every now and then a business scandal from the management at Metro will come up. No wonder traffic is more hell than ever. And unless your company reimburses for your mass transits to and from work and not all companies do so, you're SOL.
I live in a dying Casino town..not Vegas but that's dying slowly as well. People don't have money to piss away in these places anymore. The party is over in Amerika.
To Madhoosier et al who've fleshed out the problems with their town's status,thank you.
Here in Madison,Wisconsin we have a different situation,so far.Foreclosures are up about 40%,but the property values have only fallen about 2%.However,historically Wis.has suffered from depressions,and steep recessions,later than most of the country.However,I feel that within the next 6 months or less,we'll be whacked too.To give an idea of how inflated property prices are here,I live in a 700 square foot house-60 years old-assessed at $140k.This tax hell accounts for $2,200/yr.Those tidbits illustrate unfairness in the system,here as elsewhere,in that the city council,always dominated by realtors,for more than 40 years have fought off the progressive minority in attempts to establish a fairer system.
My house is paid off,but my 41 year old daughter and hubby may really be jolted as they are making reduced incomes from last year,and are in a fairly expensive house.I hope they sell immediately and downsize because when the vortex catches up to us here,I think it will be large and sudden.
I await Obama's speech tomorrow,if he doesn't emphasize more the plight of the already poor,my negative opinion of his intentions will be expanded.Among these huge bailouts to the Overlords,I may have missed him saying anything along the lines of building up emergency foodstocks,accelerating help for the Katrina victims,etc.
Anothr poster asked why we can't get better people in congress.We have 2 from Wi.that are as honorable as they come-Tammy Baldwin,and Russ Feingold in the Senate.But pols.like them are in such a minority-I don't know how they keep their sanity working in the current atmosphere in D.C.
Appalachia has been bombed, blasted and bulldozed right into 3rd world America, we can't stand anymore of the Bush/Cheney and THE COAL INDUSTRIES progress and prosperity ! http://www.wisecountyissues.com End Mountaintop Removal !!!