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Gaza: Death's Laboratory
Erik Fosse, a Norwegian cardiologist, worked in Gaza hospitals during the recent war."It was as if they had stepped on a mine," he says of certain Palestinian patients he treated. "But there was no shrapnel in the wound. Some had lost their legs. It looked as though they had been sliced off. I have been to war zones for 30 years, but I have never seen such injuries before."
Dr. Fosse was describing the effects of a U.S. "focused lethality" weapon that minimizes explosive damage to structures while inflicting catastrophic wounds on its victims. But where did the Israelis get this weapon? And was their widespread use in the attack on Gaza a field test for a new generation of explosives?
DIMEd to Death
The specific weapon is called a Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME). In 2000, the U.S. Air Force teamed up with the University of California's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. The weapon wraps high explosives with a tungsten alloy and other metals like cobalt, nickel, or iron in a carbon fiber/epoxy container. When the bomb explodes the container evaporates, and the tungsten turns into micro-shrapnel that is extremely lethal within a 13-foot radius. Tungsten is inert, so it doesn't react chemically with the explosive. While a non-inert metal like aluminum would increase the blast, tungsten actually contains the explosion to a limited area.
Within the weapon's range, however, it's inordinately lethal. According to Norwegian doctor Mad Gilbert, the blast results in multiple amputations and "very severe fractures. The muscles are sort of split from the bones, hanging loose, and you also have quite severe burns." Most of those who survive the initial blast quickly succumb to septicemia and organ collapse. "Initially, everything seems in order...but it turns out on operation that dozens of miniature particles can be found in all their organs," says Dr. Jam Brommundt, a German doctor working in Kham Younis, a city in southern Gaza. "It seems to be some sort of explosive or shell that disperses tiny particles...that penetrate all organs, these miniature injuries, you are not able to attack them surgically." According to Brommundt, the particles cause multiple organ failures.
If by some miracle victims resist those conditions, they are almost certain to develop rhabdomyosarcoma (RMS), a particularly deadly cancer that deeply embeds itself into tissue and is almost impossible to treat. A 2005 U.S. Department of health study found that tungsten stimulated RMS cancers even in very low doses. All of the 92 rats tested developed the cancer.
While DIMEs were originally designed to avoid "collateral" damage generated by standard high-explosive bombs, the weapon's lethality and profound long-term toxicity hardly seem like an improvement.
It appears DIME weapons may have been used in the 2006 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, but not enough to alarm medical workers. But in Gaza, the ordinance was widely used. Al-Shifta alone has seen 100 to 150 victims of these attacks.
Gaza as Test
Dr. Gilbert told the Oslo Gardermoen, "there is a strong suspicion...that Gaza is now being used as a test laboratory for new weapons."
DIME is a U.S. invention. Did the Israelis get the weapons from the United States, or did they design similar ones themselves? Given the close relations between the two militaries, it isn't unlikely that the U.S. Air Force supplied the weapons or, at least, the specifications on how to construct them. And since the United States has yet to use the device in a war, it would certainly benefit from seeing how these new "focused lethality" weapons worked under battlefield conditions.
Marc Garlasco, Human Rights Watch's senior military advisor, says "it remains to be seen how Israel has acquired the technology, whether they purchased weapons from the United States under some agreement, or if they in fact licensed or developed their own type of munitions."
DIME weapons aren't banned under the Geneva Conventions because they have never been officially tested. However, any weapon capable of inflicting such horrendous damage is normally barred from use, particularly in one of the most densely populated regions in the world.
For one thing, no one knows how long the tungsten remains in the environment or how it could affect people who return to homes attacked by a DIME. University of Arizona cancer researcher Dr. Mark Witten, who investigates links between tungsten and leukemia, says that in his opinion "there needs to be much more research on the health effects of tungsten before the military increases its usage."
Beyond DIMEs
DIMEs weren't the only controversial weapons used in Gaza. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) also made generous use of white phosphorus, a chemical that burns with intense heat and inflicts terrible burns on victims. In its vapor form it also damages breathing passages. International law prohibits the weapon's use near population areas and requires that "all reasonable precautions" be taken to avoid civilians.
Israel initially denied using the chemical. "The IDF acts only in accordance with what is permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus," said Israel's Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi on January 13.
But eyewitness accounts in Gaza and Israel soon forced the IDF to admit that they were, indeed, using the substance. On January 20, the IDF confessed to using phosphorus artillery shells as smokescreens, as well as 200 U.S.-made M825A1 phosphorus mortar shells on "Hamas fighters and rocket launching crews in northern Gaza."
Three of those shells hit the UN Works and Relief Agency compound on January 15, igniting a fire that destroyed hundreds of tons of humanitarian supplies. A phosphorus shell also hit Al-Quds hospital in Gaza City. The Israelis say there were Hamas fighters near the two targets, a charge that witnesses adamantly deny.
Donatella Rovera of Amnesty International said: "Such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely-populated residential neighborhoods...and its toll on civilians is a war crime."
Israel is also accused of using depleted uranium ammunition (DUA), which a UN sub-commission in 2002 found in violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions, the International Convention Against Torture, the Conventional Weapons Convention, and the Hague Conventions against the use of poison weapons.
DUA isn't highly radioactive, but after exploding, some of it turns into a gas that can easily be inhaled. The dense shrapnel that survives also tends to bury itself deeply, leaching low-level radioactivity into water-tables.
War Crimes?
Other human-rights groups, including B'Tselem, Gisha, and Physicians for Human Rights, charge that the IDF intentionally targeted medical personal, killing over a dozen, including paramedics and ambulance drivers.
The International Federation for Human Rights called on the UN Security Council to refer Israel to the International Criminal Court for possible war crimes.
Although the Israelis dismiss the war-crimes charges, the fact that the Israeli cabinet held a special meeting on January 25 to discuss the issue suggests they're concerned about being charged with "disproportionate" use of force. The Geneva Conventions require belligerents to at "all times" distinguish between combatants and civilians and to avoid "disproportionate force" in seeking military gains.
Hamas' use of unguided missiles fired at Israel would also be a war crime under the Conventions.
"The one-sidedness of casualty figures is one measure of disproportion," says Richard Falk, the UN's human rights envoy for the occupied territories. A total of 14 Israelis have been killed in the fighting, three of them civilians killed by rockets, 11 of them soldiers, four of the latter by "friendly fire." Some 50 IDF soldiers were also wounded.
In contrast, 1,330 Palestinians have died and 5,450 were injured, the overwhelming bulk of them civilians.
"This kind of fighting constitutes a blatant violation of the laws of warfare, which we ask to be investigated by the Commission of War Crimes," a coalition of Israeli human rights groups and Amnesty International said in a joint statement. "The responsibility of the state of Israel is beyond doubt."
Enter the Hague?
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann would coordinate the defense of any soldier or commander charged with a war crime. In any case, the United States would veto any effort by the UN Security Council to refer Israelis to the International Court at The Hague.
But, as the Financial Times points out, "all countries have an obligation to search out those accused of 'grave' breaches of the rules of war and to put them on trial or extradite them to a country that will."
That was the basis under which the British police arrested Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998.
"We're in a seismic shift in international law," Amnesty International legal advisor Christopher Hall told the Financial Times, who says Israel's foreign ministry is already examining the risk to Israelis who travel abroad.
"It's like walking across the street against a red light," he says. "The risk may be low, but you're going to think twice before committing a crime or traveling if you have committed one."
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Show AllThe French philosopher, Gilles Deleuze wrote the following prophetic words three decades ago in the midst of a "disproportionate" Israeli rampage:
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a model that will determine how problems of terrorism will be dealt with elsewhere, even in Europe. The worldwide cooperation of states, and the worldwide organization of police and criminal proceedings, will necessarily lead to a classification extending to more and more people who will be considered virtual "terrorists." This situation is analogous to the Spanish Civil War, when Spain served as an experimental laboratory for a far more terrible future.
Today Israel is conducting an experiment. It has invented a model of repression that, once adapted, will profit other countries...This conflict is a curious kind of blackmail, from which the whole world will never escape unless we lobby for the Palestinians to be recognized for what they are: "genuine partners" in peace talks. They are indeed at war, in a war they did not choose.
The "experimental laboratory" of Gaza is not as far off as some might imagine. As two-term President and Civil War General, Ulysses Grant wrote in his memoirs:
The Southern rebellion was largely the outgrowth of the Mexican war. Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions. We got our punishment in the most sanguinary and expensive war of modern times.
Was it ameriKa that inveterate criminal colonial enterprise that poisoned the Jewish entity in occupied Palestine or is it the global Zionist machine that has poisoned ameriKa? Either way the iron curtains being built and the Jewish ghettos/walled communities/Mexican border "fence" being created by the powerful cabal that owns ameriKa and its tax cattle speak of a future fast approaching where we will either be inside or outside the Warsaw Ghetto and tagged as lovingly by our chosen race masters and their mammonite servants as if branded by the hand of Mr Hitler himself.
You can seemingly take a jew from the ghetto but can humanity finally take the ghetto from the jew before it is too late?
Hampshire College, Amherst, MA has announced that it will divest from Israel. They also were first in the South Africa divestment movement.
http://bdsmovement.net/?q=node/301
---USAn---
University of Arizona cancer researcher Dr. Mark Witten, who investigates links between tungsten and leukemia, says that in his opinion "there needs to be much more research on the health effects of tungsten before the military increases its usage."
**I love this quote. Its completely warped. He makes his money from research, probably victimizing non humans. And he wants to do studies on the health effects of a weapon designed to cause maximum harm.
Science policing science. Perfect circle of idiocy. Put wisdom and common sense into the mix to break it.
"To be humane is to be cruel, vicious and unrestrained, like humans.
To be inhumane is to be compassionate, restrained, moderate, like non humans."
Divest, Boycott and Render
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php
Who honestly knows what the Zionists are doing to Palestinian prisoners. You mention Spain being a test lab for the Nazi's, but there's a far more horrific thing that was done to the Chinese in that same time period. Look up the name Shiro Ishii and Unit 731. What this monster did, over a decade, to Chinese nationals, and during WW2 even to Australian and US servicemen, was a nightmare. Living dissections, without anesthesia. Inhuman experiments on human subjects...the details too nightmarish to share here...simply look up this animal and dig a little. You can't imagine what he and his team did.
And the US protected this insect after the war, so they could tap into his biological weapons research data. If the Soviets had caught him, he would have been executed on the spot, but the US, in an insane drive to profit off of more and worse weapons of agony and torture, provided cover for him, so they could pick his brain. It would have been better to pick his brains off the wall after the firing squad was done with him. But the US "intelligence" agencies, in the mad anti-Soviet mode, were hungry for whatever weapons systems they felt they could profit from. Fort Deterick is the place that is Ishii's legacy...a place that George W. Bush bankrolled to the tune of 40 billion dollars, for "defensive" work on biological weaponry. When a man like Richard Nixon signs a bill to banish all biological weapons development and testing, perhaps it's better to let it go. But no, George Bush and his Republican criminals reawakened that sleeping dragon...and only time will tell if it can be contained.
I mention all this, because I know the Zionists are capable of this level of cruelty. They hate Palestinians with all the soulless fury they can muster...so why wouldn't they experiment on them, as they experiment with their new weapons of insidious death, with cruelty in mind always. I hope I'm wrong, and there certainly is no evidence of this, but they also claim to not have nuclear weapons, when the world knows they have them. And they refused to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty...gee, I wonder why?
Perhaps one day the truth of what happened in the wars of the 20th century will be told. What is certain in my mind is, we don't know the whole story of WW1 or WW2...why these blood oceans were created, why so many millions had to die. And I will say in closing, Tom Brokaw was dead wrong in his description of "The Greatest Generation". I feel I can say this, because my father was among them, and he felt he had acted honorably...which I believe he did, but the larger picture is one of death on a monumental scale. The real Greatest Generation will be the one that prevents wars of this sort, not the ones who joined it and turned this world into a war planet for centuries to come.
You write nothing but your own conjecture.
How bout less theory and more fact....
The Red Cross interviews every prisoner Israel holds.
"Hampshire College, Amherst, MA has announced that it will divest from Israel. They also were first in the South Africa divestment movement. http://bdsmovement.net/?q=node/301"
May God bless Hampshire College! Now what about the rest of us? Our tax dollars finance Israel's bloody crimes against humanity to the tune of at least $15 million a DAY! If someone has more up-to-date figures (my source follows), please share your figures and sources.
"Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that “Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid.” That's true. But it's still a lie. The problem is that in fiscal 1997 alone, Israel received from a variety of other U.S. federal budgets at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000."
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html
$5,525,800,000/365 days= $15,139,178/day, i.e. $15 million/day in 1997. It's unlikely that our total aid to Israel is less today.
Our economy is in the tank and yet we continue to finance Israel, a country which is richer than Spain and Ireland, has single-payer health care, which we can only dream of, and wastes our money on their illegal occupation of Palestine, ongoing theft of Palestinian land and water, and horrific war crimes.
It's as if we're financing the production of an endless horror film in which the Nazis have come back to life again in Israel. Only it's not a movie, and the Palestinian victims are all too real.
Ben Linder, Rachel Corrie: presente!
"Hampshire College, Amherst, MA has announced that it will divest from Israel.
They are done The Jewish lobby will close them down within 3 years!!!!!!
Any takers?
Any species that devotes its energies to contriving hell devices like these should become extinct. The sooner such a sick aberration vanishes from natural order the better.
voxclamantis wrote: Any species that devotes its energies to contriving hell devices like these should become extinct. The sooner such a sick aberration vanishes from natural order the better.
In that case, I seriously think that I (and people like me) must belong to a different species - at least, a different sub-species of human beings. I'm not joking, or being arrogant - there were times when I seriously wondered - how is it even possible that some of these 'people' and I belong to the same species? It's impossible. Just as the field of 'genetics' was relatively a late-comer in the field of biology, may be there is some other area of research that would emerge, which could perhaps throw some light on why some 'people' are capable of doing such things, while others would rather die before committing such acts. There is a quote by Gandhi that goes like, "There are a few causes for which I am prepared to die, but no cause for which I am prepared to kill". When I say 'I', I obviously include those who have the minimum of common sense and humanity in them - those who at least have a faint idea of the 'Golden Rule'.
Highintel: Can we do better?
How strange that you should say that; I've often wondered if there aree indeed two species of men. This would explain why the sense of smell is so vital in our choice of love partners. Is this God's way of keeping the 2 species separate?
In Jewish and Muslim, as well as Christian lore, Lilith is believed to have been the first wife of Adam and the mother of demons, and some men ( the other Human species?), through Satan.
See http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/lilith.html
'tis curious this. Perhaps the Neanderthal never actually died off. I would say that the war mongers are an offshoot of that species...although it is presumptuous to assume that Neanderthal were violent and mindless like Republicans...and quite a few Democrats. Homo Republicus? No...they wouldn't like the term homo, might reveal their inner Republican, the one that has a wide stance in airport bathroom stalls. Homo Habitualis? They do seem to be habitual about murdering and torturing...they just can't seem to give it up. Homo Homicidilis? Or homo war...simple, direct, savage and self-serving.
Really though, the human race is a predatory race, and we predate ourselves like no others, with the possible exeption being the trees. How many billions of trees have fallen before the axes of men? It is said that Europe was once a forest from Germany to the Steppes of Russia...until men cleared the forests over centuries...leaving only a tiny remnant of that great forest in the Black Forest of Bavaria. We have all the physical traits of predators, stereo vision especially, looking forward, not to the side, the better to predate with.
We are no more or less evil than sharks...although we are far better at killing, at least with tools involved. Hard to be a great predator without natural weapons like sharks teeth...but we make due with the product of our imaginations.
It all makes me very tired, and it makes me not fear death...because in death, all of this goes away, no brutality, no love, no mindless violence, no gentleness, no loneliness, no overcrowding. Why fear death? It's literally nothing...unless of course you believe in the Easter Bunny, and think a white guy with a white beard will save you to spend eternity sitting around feeling wonderful (and fucking bored I would think). But I ramble...
>>guntotinganglion wrote: We are no more or less evil than sharks...
mmm, but sharks don't kill out of ideology or a stupid belief that they are the chosen sharks.
>>We have all the physical traits of predators, stereo vision especially, looking forward, not to the side, the better to predate with.
Sorry, again, I disagree - strictly from a physiological and anatomical point of view (not including the mental aspect), humans have far more in common with herbivorous (plant-eating) animals than with carnivorous (flesh-eating) or even omnivorous (those that can eat both) animals. You can find lots of info. on this - here's a sample: :) The Comparative Anatomy of Eating
>>It all makes me very tired, and it makes me not fear death...because in death, all of this goes away, no brutality, no love, no mindless violence, no gentleness, no loneliness, no overcrowding.
But, despite what nature perhaps intended us to be, I agree, humans have become the worst predators that don't seem to know when to stop. But again, I happen to believe that it's not necessary for the whole world to change - it is enough if a sufficiently large minority undergoes some kind of deep transformation to effect major changes in the rest of humanity. I try to stay hopeful, though being cynical takes less effort :)
Alcyon - Thanks for your insights.
I do think that idealogy and stupid beliefs are part of our instinctual sub-text. These are things that appear to have helped us to survive. Saying we're no more evil than sharks is to say we are animals governed by instincts as much as sharks are, and that the concept of good and evil is only a construct of our survival lexicon...which is to say, we are as governed by instinct as any animals in the DNA kingdom. Basically, none of this is good or evil, it's simply instinctual self-preservation by the top predators among us. We are our own worst enemies, and the stratification of our social structure is a natural reflection of us being our own natural enemies. Like a cat and dog, we are the natural enemies of ourselves and the extreme nature of warfare would seem to bear this out.
Our instincts seem to be unique, but instincts they are. It's all about survival, and we, as predatory omnivores have found our nitch in this world...for now. Our use of tools has elevated us to the position of most efficient predator on the planet, and that will likely be our fatal flaw in the end, especially when you consider our tinkering with our own building template (DNA) to achieve otherwise unknown variants in the biosphere.
Thanks for your post!
Gaza And The Warsaw Ghetto
same place
different time
while the world stood by
genocide
live
Israel, or more appropriately, the Zionist psychopaths, have matched, and exceeded the Nazi collective punishment ratio set during WW2. 100 to 1 is the classic ratio, from what I have read. With 9 (13 is the total, but 4 are by "friendly" fire) casualties from unguided rocket attacks by Hamas, and 1330 Palestinian deaths, the ratio is precisely 147.77 to 1. Adolf Hitler would have been proud of these stats.
What is even more repugnant is the evidence that Gaza is a death laboratory. Who knows what nightmare weapons are in development that will need further death laboratories? Clearly, the United States weapons mongers are in full psychopathic mode, looking for more and efficient ways to reduce, and/or eliminate, the value of human life. The tack appears to be toward totally robotic warfare in future, when the dehumanization of the species known as homo sapien will be complete. Machines will decide who lives and who dies, and if anything "goes wrong" and massacres occur, there will be legal cover in it all being mechanical failures, or software problems.
This is an odd aside, but please, bear with me, because I think I have a good point. This insanity reminds me of a particular Star Trek episode "A Taste of Armageddon", which regards two races that have been at war for over 400 years. Turns out, they have sanitized warfare into a "peaceful" affair fought by computers. When one computer "attacks" the other, notices are sent out for the "victims" to report to disintegration chambers. By removing "destruction" from the war equation, they also removed the value of human life, and the reasons to STOP making war. The reasons being, people die, and usually in modern war, far more innocent than guilty pay the ultimate price.
It is an interesting analog to the future war with robots that is certain to come if this insanity is not stopped soon. It reduces the value of individual human life to icons on a computer monitor, and makes war into, at the very least, a computer game played by joystick jockeys half a world away. Actually, even that tiny bit of humanity in the equation, disappears with autonomous killing machines (like a Terminator). This road that this country has put the world on, with their testing of increasingly lethal weapons of minor destruction, is a very dangerous one for future generations that will find their lives worth nothing. Much as the Gazan's have in the brutal, vengeful "war" of collective punishment, that hides the real savagery of a nation experimenting on an entire population, Guernica style.
not to minimize the israeli crimes here in any way but let's keep in mind that for every "zionist psychopath" on the loose in israel there are 1000 in the united states
talk about proportionality, the us response to (false flag) 9/11 is a good case in point
if you read the zionist literature - they want to take over jordan, they have sent orthodox groups to mosul and baghdad to look into populating iraq and we all know what they think about iran
they are blood crazed maniacs and they have proved beyond any question every anti-semitic claim ever made
this is what american foreign policy has created
let's not forget that panama was used as a trial test tube for new and exotic weapons by the us
laser weapons of some kind were employed resulting in "melting" of bodies - a couple of thousand cases in that instance
the israelis are war criminals as are the americans
so we need to do 2 things:
1. close every holocaust memorial in the world - perpetrators are not victims
2. set free milosevic, charles taylor and karadzic
and lastly let's all agree that we are all pieces of shit for doing what amounts to nothing in the face of all this evidence
its a shame on us all
cheers, b
Sioux Rose
GUNTO: I had a different trans-war concept. Nations that need to explore ordnance have to do so artistically, say in ornate firework displays. Neutral nation judges stand by and watch the bombastic displays, four and five star generals can wear the uniforms on the sidelines (the way coaches stand by as their groomed athletes compete) and the judges give the scores: 8.5, 7.9, etc. The highest scores for the pyrotechnic mastery wins "the war." Sure beats the Aztecs who beheaded the losing team members! And would save the natives of lots of peaceful lands blood, sweat, and logistical tears! Not to mention infrastructure!
Sioux Rose - If we have wishes, I'd wish for the following...Any two nations that wish to wage war, will do it by proxy. The two leaders will meet in a pre-ordained location, and there will be stripped. They will then be put in a pit, and allowed to fight, hand to hand, without weapons, only their bodies. Two men in, one man out, one country wins, the other country loses. I guarantee, this will eliminate warfare.
A more realistic tack would be to have someone like George W. Bush, i.e. a coward, be required to lead the troops in battle, by Constitutional amendment. If a President chooses war over peace, as Bush did, his war will not be allowed to happen unless he is the one to lead the troops into battle. He goes first...and if he survives, so be it, and if he dies, good. I say again, this will guarantee peace, because creatures like Bush are only brave when they're surrounded by thousands of troops. Remove them from that "social network" and you've got a gollum who would do anything to stay alive.
Really and truly though, peace only comes from being peaceful. And war only creates more war. These are maxims that are simple but true. Fighting for peace, as we used to say, is like fornicating (used another word, but I'll leave it out) for chastity....it makes no sense.
here is a helpful boycott/divest list. Make sure you guys follow this list. Don't do it half-###. Make sure you give up all these things.
http://www.e-bski.org/Israel/israel-accomplishments.htm
You don't have to spam that on every related article. You're a Zionist apologist, I think we get the point already.
Not to mention superhighways (autobahns) and volkswagens.
And pharmaceutical research on human endurance. A bit like Gaza now...
Sioux Rose
DAVE B: The Nazis were also working with genetics, the bodies of their Jewish prisoners made for a ready "laboratory." There is a very interesting and ominous astrological parallel I noted. Jupiter (carries a theme of faith and resonates philosophically with the premises of the New Testament) takes 12 years to orbit the sun. Its antithesis, Saturn, resonates quite well with the Old Testament, and the message of "as ye reap, ye sow." Saturn's orbit is 28-29 years. The pair meets once every 20 years, and did so in the sign of Taurus in l940 when the Nazis began genetic research. Jupiter and Saturn met again at 20 year intervals, but not in Taurus, the Venus-ruled sign of Earth and Her bounty, until 2000 which happens to be when the DNA molecule was mapped, and the geniuses behind this thought that it worked like a 2-D map. They thought they could TARGET the portions of the DNA molecule that created specific diseases. They didn't recognize the degree to which DNA acts as a living entity. Nonetheless once they had the map, they applied for "intellectual copyright" law/protection which our earth-bound, disgustingly materialistic, conservative spiritually-devoid Supreme Court Justices indeed granted. I find it amazing that what the Nazis began under the first Taurus "great conjunction" was fulfilled under the second.
At a time when everywhere life is held so cheap (a million persons senselessly slaughtered passed off as a mere military maneuver, and/or banal logistical error a/k/a collateral damage) that the uninitiated in the remotest respect for DNA, now can legally hold it, the very biological banks of time, hostage. In my view, this heist is worse than the one being perpetrated upon our monetary supply.
Steal a country and virtually loot it's owners of all their possessions, including water, and you have a head start on most law abiding people. Further scrap all inhibitions of morality and you're already 2 steps ahead. Worship and reward greed and ruthless business methods and you're well ahead. Yeah Nazi Israel is a true model for any Rogue State.
While the USE of these weapons is a war crime, the very fact a country will dedicate its resources and ingenuity to manufacture the same is an absolute poison in every respect.
Only peoples without a soul can manufacture and use such weapons.
Sioux Rose
GW NORTH: I pointed this out in a post yesterday. There are 3 guilty parties: 1. the weapons designers 2. the weapons salesmen (think Carlyle) and 3. the ones who actually use them.
And I agree with a poster above, the kind of mind that can conceive of such levels of grotesque destruction of OTHER peoples' flesh is beyond what I can begin to understand. That US tax dollars PAY for these outrageous weapons, particularly NOW when there's all these righteous arguments over there not being enough $ to keep people in their own homes, or provide decent health care. Talk about a nation whose priorities are already in Hell, which is to say the Pluto/Hades underworld that focuses mostly on death. (Incidentally, as per the astro-logos, Pluto-Hades operates as the upper octave of Mars and since his discovery--as a planet--has gifted the world's darker types with all these insidious radiation-based weapons.) Mars is fueled by anger, but Pluto feeds off revenge. This is why EVERY spiritual master understands that the best way to dilute "the force" is for persons to forgive, to learn to move into peaceful circles of truth and reconciliation. The price of not taking this route = an acceleration of yet worse weapons, for there are too many all too willing to design, sell and use them.
Paul Siemering
not in any way minimizing Israel's monstrous crimes, we must realize that the u.s. is their knowing accomplice, fellow criminal and enabler.the u.s. has it in its power to stop them anytime it decides to do so. denouncing Israel is ok, but there is not a big difference between them and us. maybe we have even bear the greater responsibility- we gave them those DIMEs and probably the white phosphorous. Maybe encouraged them to do this "experiment"? it's so pentagon to do that. and we have always known that every bomb bullet or bulldozer that kills Palestinians is a gift from our own selves. too bad we don't live in a democracy.
Having read and all too horribly understood the article: Sheeet!!!
How are people able to think up and make such disgusting weapons? - That question remains, even after all and every understanding of brainwashing, mental stunting, derangements and delusions all-sorts.
With the way they behave (and we live on in complicity), Israel (and its allies US) is about to become an ongoing war-crime by its sheer existence.
I'm disgusted beyond my own belief.
Gaza's too much.
Israel, please just stop, stop, stop, and get a grip. Stay within your limits and allow others to do the same. Stop lying to yourself and the world - we see you do it. Nothing, no gain is worth the suffering you inflict, the pain you make, the destruction you wreak - upon the dignity of human existence on earth.
The worst atrocities of human history are taking place right now! - Kali-yuga for sure.
And still, the most beautiful, ingenious, wide-hearted human creations are taking place right now.
I don't get it. My mind's too small to encompass these polarities.
All this warring and killing over who's god has the best message of peace and love.
Except that yahweh-guy, a wrathful demon for sure, who seems to mostly demand that Israel gets what they think their demon-god wants at any cost. A circular thinking that never stops, before the circle comes to an end by contracting to the center - of the people doing the thinking.
(Yes, I read the old testament - that book surely should've been indexed a long, long time ago, for being taken as a call for action rather than a quaint document of sun-stroked rantings and stories of conduct not to be copied).
Some times I wish my mind would explode and leave me in peace.
Our intellectual centers, the fields of science, psychology, technology have been hijacked and grotesquely distorted by the obsessive passion for militarism, for refining the torture of individuals and groups. I implore those who work for Universities to resist taking funding for research aimed at injuring, manipulating or spying on your fellow citizens here and in other parts of the world.
Where does careerism or impartial research cross over into abetting crimes against humanity? If you are not sure, it IS over the line.
Joe
Sioux Rose
JCLIENTELLE: I think the mindset is so pervasive, insidious and often unconscious that I firmly believe it influences the approach to HOW medicine is practiced. VERY often, analogous to our militaristic "force first" approach, instead of approving gentle methods that ASSIST the body in healing, getting the patient to detox and change his/her lifestyle, ruthless methods--cutting organs, poisoning portions that have degenerated through specific toxic exposures are selected almost reflexively.
Years ago I was invited to go horseback riding with a nurse from Shands Hospital, adjunct to the University of Florida. As we rode off on a cold morning, I asked her if the town's worship of its football team had any impact on medicine. She told me the ONLY thing the surgeons talked about as they performed delicate work on people's inner organs was the weekend scores, or what football team they were flying off to see. I asked again if she felt foot ball influenced the practice of medicine and she answered, "I don't see how it could not."
Football is not unlike war for its use of force, strategic moves, and focus on attack. A lawyer friend of mine said chess was the gentleman's game of war. I'd say football is the redneck's. To me, these foci are indicative of the importance of Mars to American culture with its championing of men in blue, macho sports, militarism and war. These facets are ALL related.
Yes, as you say. Medicine is distorted by reliance on the use of factory produced pharmaceuticals and on surgery "instead of approving gentle methods that ASSIST the body in healing, getting the patient to detox and change his/her lifestyle".
Sometimes an aggressive approach to disease is required, but we use it all too often as as a first and only line of attack, rather than trying to understand and work kindly with the body and the person inhabiting it.
It is very analagous to our approach to the world.
Joe
Sioux Rose
JOE: I agree. Thanks for the response.
Sioux, i wrote you a response the other day. Darn, it was in response to your response to me. It was about fear based world as opposed to survival based. I said they are basically one in the same. Fear of not surviving, or not having our needs met. Darn, i dont remember which article it was. But my comment didn't show up as a response to yours.
Sioux Rose
Hi, READY, I've had a few gone missing at times myself! I can't go back right now as I am about to take off and am finalizing that massive book. When CD posts 17 articles (like today) I feel pressure to keep up with it all!
Speaking of medicine....
Hamas has been caught sneaking bombs in with medicine supplies.
The stuff explosives into medicine bottles to make them into grenades. It is believed that the explosives were brought in under the disguise of medical relief....
Next time Israel will allow no medical supplies to be brought in and Hamas has only itself to blame.
This sounds like the good old Zionazi propaganda diversions of yore. Where is the proof and where the independent witnesses?
Try the Democracy Underground and no that is definitly not a 'zionazi' movement.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&ddress=124x260264
You're still denying any fact that doesn't match you're preset opinions.
I am happy about that boycott of and divestiture in Israel has begun. It was a good tactic towards South Africa.
The US had armed the apartheid regime there, often channeling military aid covertly, using Israel as an agent and conduit.
In the US we have a special situation in relation to Israel. In addition to the need to divest, boycott and sanction, which is required of the rest of the world and of institutions within the US, we have to keep talking about ending military aid from our treasury. Supporting an apartheid country that uses phosphorus bombs and DIME is an immoral use of our funds, which are badly needed for loving purposes.
Joe
Dear Israeli High Command and Lowly Grunt Soldier,
You here by are summoned to travel on vacation to any international destination of your choosing where we, the international community, have issued a collective warrant for your arrest and detainment, effective immediately. Please visit Priceline.com or your local travel agent to book a flight and we will handle the rest of your holiday arraignments for you. You worked hard and got your hands dirty during the Slaughter of Gaza 2009, you deserve some time to cool off and contemplate things in a solitary setting. Please do not postpone your well earned vacation or else we will grow increasingly impatient and hunt you down in your own bunkers like the dirty dogs that you are.
Signed,
Everyone Else
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.", Albert Einstein.
Ed note: white phosphorous, dense metal super weapons, nuclear stick-up, missile defense, bailouts and propaganda!!
What is done by the Israelis to the Palestinians is prelude to what will be done to USA citizens ----------we are all Palestinians in the eyes of the rulers.
Cities in USA are now regularly sending their police to Israel to learn Israeli methods of control.
Prisons in Iraq had Israeli advisors and interrogators--one of the torture methods at Abu ghraib was instantly recognized as an Israeli position infamously known as "Palestinian Hanging".
there are now detention facilities developed by KBR in every state of the union. The largest are in Chicago (can hold a mio) and in Alaska.
I live in Pennsylvania and I know of two sites (rehabilitated, out-of-date prisons) that are ready for occupants.
The gov. says these internment camps are for illegal immigrants, disaster victims or political prisoners. They are under the dept. of Homeland security.
Please do all you can to end the abuse of Palestinians, the skin you save may be your own.
ruby, i havent heard about the detention centers in the u.s. for quite a while. I forgot about them. Does anyone have new information on what is happening with those?
Also, the military unit that is now based in the u.s. in case we have uprisings. I haven't heard more on that news lately.
"First they came for the communists, and i said i wasn't a communist. Then they came for the labor unionists, and i said i wasn't a labor unionist...."
R., "And then they came for me."
Google 'now public fema detention centers' for some current data.
Hope you be well. azjoe/stephanie
You said it, rubyinthedust.
The shadier segments of our government have been testing methods of war, manipulation and repression in the "third world" for decades. Some of the "research" has been conducted by our client states. We have already imported some practices previously associated with dictatorships, such as open kleptocracy, secrecy and media control. Now the banking and real estate scams are creating mass impoverishment, a widening gap between rich and poor, which keeps the population frightened and exhausted, treading water. By time we get to vote, the electoral process on the national level is sewn shut. There is little to keep the shadier segments from applying the whole range of methodologies here including torture and mass imprisonment.
Unless we vigorously oppose violations against people in other countries, our complicity in war crimes will surely come back to roost. Those who trust in Obama to hold the line, should note that even if he is willing and able to do so, he can be out in 4 years, will be out in 8. Then we are stuck with whatever structure and practices we have allowed. Democracy has to transcend individuals.
Pure self interest is one reason we should oppose ignoring war crimes in the name of moving forward. Did Nuremberg mean nothing?
Joe
We are not decent. We are no one's "best hope". We would not develop such weapons and we would have no such ally as the Fourth Reich.
One of the rumors constantly floated during Hitler's career was that he was of Jewish descent. Was it a family quarrel, then?
Jeremiah Wright was absolutely right in saying " 'God BLESS America'? God DAMN America!!"
Pan
Thank you all for your insights ,indeed I am not alone.
Liberty and Justice for ALL
Hamas rockets
"Hamas' use of unguided missiles fired at Israel would also be a war crime under the Conventions."
That's right, Mr. Hallinan, that's what the Conventions say.
But you named the wrong law.
The Geneva Conventions do not apply to Hamas rockets.
Instead, a different law applies, which says, Hamas rockets are lawful, targeting innocent civilians in Israel, the law of belligerent reprisals.
We're talking about the Hamas rockets we hear endlessly about, launched from Gaza, targeting Sderot, a town in Israel about a mile away and, from 2008, towns further away, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Beer-Sheva, and others. Mostly homemade Qassam rockets (Israeli spelling: Kassam), some few Grad rockets, Israelis say, also launched as singles.
And we're talking about Israel, illegally killing, wounding, Palestinians, violating the laws of war, the blockade, siege, of Gaza, for example, much unlawful targeting, sadistic, criminal, destruction, Caterpillar® bulldozing orange groves, destroying agricultural wells, irrigation networks, farm buildings, livestock.
Undisputed law, belligerent reprisals, the 1949 Geneva Conventions outlawed them, but only against "protected persons" (e.g., civilians in occupied territory). They do not outlaw targeting civilians not in occupied territory, belligerent reprisals targeting them. Hamas does not occupy Israel (destination of its rockets), nor Israeli settlements in the 1967 oPt (Israeli occupied Palestinian territory).
The 1977 Protocol-I does purport to outlaw them (from December 7 1979, its entry into force), but that protocol does not apply. The U.S. and Israel are not parties to it, not entitled to its protections. Even countries who did ratify it, they reject it, some of them, that particular provision, the U.K., for example, France, Germany, Italy, Egypt. They won't have it, further restricting civilian belligerent reprisals, beyond the 1949 Geneva Conventions. These countries -- and the U.S. too -- they all say, belligerent reprisals, targeting civilians, not in occupied territory, that's an essential law enforcement tool, they say. These countries, they formally reserve the right to do it themselves, under the long standing, undisputed, existing, customary law of war (non treaty law) which, they say, the protocol (treaty law) does not abolish.
So we have a journalism question, Mr. Hallinan, and you're an ideal person to answer it, because you ran the journalism program at UCSC for 23 years (University of California, Santa Cruz).
How should a journalist report this conflict, between consensus and the law.
What you said, yes, it's consensus, in the U.S., and other Anglo countries (U.K., Canada, Australia), everybody says it, in those countries, the media, political elites, Hamas rockets are war crimes, few of them cite any authority, and so your report is superior, on that account.
But it's not consensus, in much of the rest of the world, and for good reason, it's nonsense.
You don't have to be an international lawyer to know that belligerent reprisals are legal, it's natural.
It's not news, that the rockets are legal, because no public figure is saying it.
But then again it's wrong to write a news report, which says Hamas rockets are war crimes, terrorism, or to report it, that somebody else said it.
I imagine you would agree about that, as a journalism lecturer, that's very wrong.
News or not, it must be reported, as you instruct your students, because the consequences are extreme, if they don't report it, they conceal, prevent, a very different public analysis of events, in the middle east, lives depend on this, and huge sums of money.
In a news report, I guess you would say, they must include a sentence, to caveat it, each time a public figure throws that charge at Hamas.
But that caveat needs authority, because it's contrary to consensus, the notion that Hamas rockets are legal, indeed, in the U.S. and allied media, that consensus puts that notion in the "sphere of deviance," a graveyard of journalists, they suppose. Jay Rosen (Columbia), endorsing Daniel C. Hallin (UCSD), The Uncensored War (1986) ("easily the most useful diagram I've found for understanding the practice of journalism in the United States, and the hidden politics of that practice").
So a lengthy analysis piece, maybe that's what you would suggest to them, a foundation for future reference, reporting international law professors, their opinions about it. The journalist phones them up, puts the questions, reports what they say, about the law of belligerent reprisals, and Hamas rockets.
Law professors, I guess most of them will say, they're not experts about it, and can't express an opinion, but they assume Hamas rockets are war crimes, and terrorism, because government officials, they have said that for years, and those officials would commit very serious crimes, if they lied about it, if they concealed a contrary law, which says the very opposite.
Law professors, some of them might say, that it's no longer valid law, belligerent reprisals, that protecting innocent people from targeting, that's the trend in the law, that Hamas are criminals and terrorists, that the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Egypt, and others, these countries are simply wrong, for agreeing with Hamas.
Law professors, saying they disagree with these governments -- big hitters in military matters, their official, formal, written, declared, positions -- I guess we need an opinion about that too, about that difference of opinion, from criminal law professors. Can Hamas have criminal intent, if what they do, all those governments say it's legal.
Hundreds of millions of people, voters, have been ignoranted, by a determined conspiracy of liars, government officials, political elites, because journalists don't do their job, or their editors, their publishers, won't let them.
That's the way I see it, Mr. Hallinan, but you're a journalism expert, and I'm not, so I'd be glad to hear your opinion about it, and what to do about it.