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Stimulus, Yes; Bank Bailout II, No
You can say one thing for Sen. Susan Collins of Maine. She is performing the service of giving bipartisanship a bad name.
Maine's current $6.1 billion budget has a revenue shortfall of $830 million, and Maine is facing the same kinds of layoffs and program cuts as other states. But Collins thinks it's clever to cut from the recovery package by some $40 billion in desperately needed to aid the states, in order to....what? In order to show that "moderates" can force the Obama administration to bend? I hope the lady's phone is ringing off the hook from bewildered constituents.
One also hopes that the House, where there is no filibuster rule, will push back, big time. Progressive strategists are talking about forcing Republicans to engage in an old-fashioned filibuster, with cots on the Senate floor, in order to shame so-called moderate Republicans like Collins into allowing the final conference bill to come to a vote. That would be salutary. But whatever the ultimate size of the stimulus bill that reaches President Obama's desk, it is likely to be only the first installment. I will bet that Congress will have to enact additional spending legislation as the economy seeks deeper into recession.
While the compromise bill has too many concessions to tax cutters in both parties, at least the administration has the basic concept about right. The bill is clearly not just meant as a one-shot, but a down payment on more adequate social outlay and 21st century infrastructure. As the recession deepens, if Obama does his job he will mobilize public opinion and isolate Republicans who would rather sink the economy than give a Democratic president legislative success. The current recovery bill is a good first step.
The same, however, cannot be said about the even more important administration initiative, the revised bank rescue plan. If we get the scale of stimulus spending right, it will put people back to work and prevent the economy from collapsing for lack of purchasing power. But if the banking system stays in a state of cardiac arrest, it will continue dragging down the rest of the economy.
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has postponed unveiling details of the plan yet again, until Tuesday, citing the need to work on the stimulus legislation. But Geithner and other administration officials have already leaked enough details to make clear that they lack the nerve to do what needs to be done.
Geithner has gone out of his way to throw cold water on the idea of bank nationalization. Rather, the new plan will be some variation on the original strategy that former Treasury Hank Paulson sought and then rejected--getting toxic assets off bank books without asking a great deal in return. The plan reportedly will allocate $50-100 billion for mortgage relief, but here again this is to be done indirectly rather than through direct federal refinancing of distressed mortgages.
Here's the problem with this whole approach. The government has not been shy about telling banks what to do, but has done so in an ad hoc manner, without adequate information, without a strategic plan, and without the authority that goes with ownership. The Wall Street Journal recently published a devastating investigative account of how the Treasury Department ordered Bank of America to acquire Merrill Lynch, a deal that turned out to be a disaster for the acquiring bank. Executives were warned that if they did not go alone with the plan, the Journal reported, there would be hell to pay.
Basically, the government has been acting as if it owned the banks, but in a half-backed, scattershot manner. It would be far better to nationalize the large banks outright, sort out their balance sheets, and then decide what level of financial relief is required to get the banks functioning. This prevents the dilemma of government either overpaying for assets that are currently under water, or failing to provide enough aid. If government is the owner, then government actually runs the bank and there is no risk of windfall benefits to banks at taxpayer expense. When the banks are back on their feet, they can be sold to new private owners.
The current approach, apparently to be revised only slightly by Geithner, produces the worst of both worlds. Government is left holding the bag for the losses, but government lacks the direct tools to run the banks properly. On the mortgage front, it would be far more effective for government to simply refinance at-risk mortgages directly, as the government did in the 1930s under Roosevelt's Home Owners Loan Corporation.
Obama's problem is that his key economic appointees are averse to radical solutions to a radical crisis. Geithner and National Economic Council chief Larry Summers have both been quoted saying that governments "make poor bank managers." Geithner's own track record as point man for the rescue efforts of the Bush administration certainly proves his point, at least as far as his own work is concerned. But in fact, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which does take over failed banks from time to time, has an excellent record of sorting out their balance sheets, nursing them back to health, and then returning them to the private sector. The Treasury lacks this competence. This is all the more reason for government to build up the necessary expertise and then take over failed banks, rather than just pumping in money and intervening in fits and starts.
There is time to add more money to the stimulus package if the first attempt falls short. But time is fast running out on the more urgent need to get the banking system functioning.
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Show AllOur national debt has now exceeded $10.7 trillion. The is the largest national debt this country has ever had. As we go even deeper in debt with this bail out, the more indebted we are to countries like China, Russia and Saudi Arabia. What is frustrating is we are putting the country at great risk of a gargantuan national debt, and there is no clear agreement among top economists about what to do.
After being over charged $78 billion for taking on toxic loans by the banks we were kind enough to bail out, I have no patience left with the banks. They are the money grubbing sociopaths that caused this economic collapse. I am coming around to agreement with Paul Krugman to nationalize banks for a shorterm transition just to get the bankers out of the way.
Where did you get the $10.7 trillion number from and where can I find an actual breakdown on the debt?
There are some websites that run, what's called a "national debt clock". Starting with the U.S. Treasury, here are some sites that talk about the national debt:
The Debt to the Penny and Who Holds It
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
National Debt Clocks and Savings Clocks
Grandfather Economic Report series
The Concord Coalition - also check out their DVD called "I.O.U.S.A."
You may also do your own search :)
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Highintel: Can we do better?
The big banks like Bank of America are also the designated Dealers who buy and sell the Treasury securities to the world.
I wonder Is that why they are broke too? They are too big to succeed now that they over extended so if the government bought them out the government would be buying and selling treasury securities from itself? The Federal Reserve could care less because they still would control the money supply but with no interest the whole system looks like it is toast even if they can find buyers of treasuries that offer practically no interest.
This is the liquidation of America. On top of that nobody knows if new money is being printed, how much or where it went if it was printed.
Still the Fed is the unspeakable when they talk about nationalizing the Banks.
The Banks are the worst investment out there now and the reason for this mountain of debt is because of the FED more than the banks who just do what the Fed has set up to make the most money which because of debt limits no longer works.
The private system of International central banking has failed from Debt and after 100 years has gone past the tipping point.
The system has all the levers and institutions in place. What is needed is for representatives of the people to take control of those institutions and kick the fat cats out, that is the challenge.
Will the people's money become a public utility for the common good or continue for the few at the top and the impoverishment of the masses?
These financial psychopaths should be in jail. But I forgot, the US rewards financial psychopaths.
The $10.7 trillion national debt can be found here, but you better hurry, it goes up about $10,000 every second.
http://zfacts.com/p/461.html
Nationalize the banks, fired the board of directors, and let the shareholders and bond holders take the loss.
Any money to the investment bank houses is simply perpetuating the problem. 8.5 trillion between the fed and treasury has done nothing. The toxic assets are abstractions far from any connection to real assets. (Judge, I bought mortgage default insurance on a house from a guy who didn't own the house and now he can't pay me because he's broke because he did the same thing as me but he gave me some b.s. story about getting someone who had nothing to do with the transaction to financially cover us both.)
Short term remedies; money to local banks to lend, money to infrastructure, money to state and local governments, money to those that need to spend on basics.
Long term remedies; nationalize the Federal Reserve, nationalize central banking, relegate Wallstreet to gambling status ala Vegas, etc.,
Of course since we have entered a reality warp we will continue to pour trillions into the ruling elites pocket in the guise of "making good" on the toxic assets as if this is necessary before we do the short term remedies to keep the mainstreet economy going. Freeze all those toxic transactions for now, we've got to get this country going.
Resign yourselves, you yammering slobs: we are going to keep sucking the life out of you for as long as it pleases us. Then we are going to deposit you on the trash heaps already occupied by much of your third-world brethren. Yes, the system is in deep crisis, and it's now a "you or us" situation; guess who we're picking, you poor, pathetic remnants of the "great american experiment."
Smedley Ambler III of Covington Square
"...it would be far more effective for government to simply refinance at-risk mortgages directly..."
Strange how that doesn't seem to seep through to decision-makers.
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It's as if one part of the decision-makers and their social circles are grabbing all the goods they can to run off with the loot before their lives and societies unravel, somehow forgetting that in the globalized economy they've created there's nowhere left to run, except behind a gun - which will run out of ammo soon enough.
While the other part(s) keeps thinking and saying about the first part: "That can't happen here. And if we only keep saying that to each other, it won't. Surely that's for the best. All will be well soon. After all, who can we trust if we no longer trust those we always trusted? - If the answer's noone, the responsibility's on me, and I don't know anything about how money and values originate, because I'm in this for the perks and the money, and have always resorted to parroting those I was told to trust..."
That cliff Obama's talking about is coming up real fast. Hybrid car, SUV or even standing still.
There are four or five sucker punches to the jaw of the economy following in rapid succession now:
1. The sub-prime lending debacle
2. The retail-sales failure
3. The production-level bankruptcies
4. The exhausted resources/climate-crises
5. The utter lack of trust in any "reserve currency" or exchange-unit
- dollar first, gold next, potatoes last
Beware, enjoy, and keep building small networks of reciprocity bigger until the Love of equality, fairness and one-standard justice takes over.
All the while, remember:
Laugh,
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OBAMA’S Spending Package: Deficit to Nowhere!
With the biggest spending package in History no-one know where we are going!
There is no Plan? The Party is over!It was Bush's "War on Terror" that got us here Obama must end it now to begin a new chapter.
Why nobody understand that tax break , distributing money to people, student loans, encouraging people to spend, spending money like a drunken sailor, rescuing Big Banks is not going to save a bankrupt Empire. Tax breaks, unregulated expenditure, buying more Rvs. And spending on consumer products by borrowing money from China, wasting a trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan, letting our factories go to China, Mexico and sub-contracting our jobs to India caused these problem in the first place.
Republicans, Bush Administration and the Democrats in Congress who at every stage voted with Bush are responsible for doubling our national debts and before the end of next year under Obama our National Debts would be redoubled to more than 13 trillion dollars. We are mortgaging our future and sacrificing the next generation future for increase in consumer spending that got us here.
The Party is over for Mr. Obama and all his true believer. The man has no clue about economy and he is getting on the job training from the people who got us here.
We are providing high paying jobs in Iraq and Afghanistan chasing a ghost created by Bush and Cheney. Until we stop these costly ,unpopular, stupid war against Muslims, that is creating more enemy for us, for which we have to spend more on the War without end, as Bush coined the phrase, we have not changed course! Obama is still staying the coarse that has diverted our attention from our welfare and economy and wasted our assets in warfare rather than welfare!
People who are fighting their own oppressive regimes are not Taliban, insurgents or terrorist they Freedom Fighters and fighting a war of National Liberation. They have nothing against Americans if America does not interfere in their effort to change their regime or get rid of the oppressors.
Obama does not have a plan other wise he would have known that creating 2 million jobs in the this year while losing 2 million jobs is a net of Zero. We do not need more expenditure we need a Paradigm shift. The party is over for the old Paradigm of tax break for the rich, easy credit, happy go lucky living in a bubble and wasting our resources on the fabricated and fraudulent “War on Terror”! Obama has to end Bush’s “War on Terror” and wasting 10 billion dollars a day on military misadventure! Empire go to war to bring trophies and treasures not thirty thousands seriously wounded that we have to pay for.
In a Capitalist country if bank and businesses fail so be it, this is Capitalism. The fact that Obama is spending 2 trillion dollars of Bail-out money to save the failing businesses, banks and financial institutions is socialism for the rich not Capitalism.
If Government wants to help the people then government should set up a Bank that buys these foreclosed houses and let the whosoever wants to live in them and pay for them at 4 percent interest and pay taxes live on them. Government of the people should not steal from the people and give it to a few banks who in turn would exploit the people. What is the use of giving money to the Bank when the Banks would not lend it with easy qualifying requirement?
Obama has no right to borrow 2 trillion dollars Money from China and spread it to the wealthy, rich and powerful or waste it in Afghanistan. Every penny borrowed must be to create manufacturing centers that can make us less dependent on others and reduce our deficit in Balance of Trade and eventually our National Debts. The only justifiable deficit is when it is spent to build factories to produce products we can sell here and abroad!
Failure to do so is a fraud upon this nation.
Sioux Rose
NEXUS: I agree with many of your points and feel just as outraged by the lack of vision and corrupted priorities, although Obama is just the latest front man, not the cause of most of this.