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We All Have a Voice in Right vs. Wrong
Five years after suicidal zealots crashed planes into our comfortable lives, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld scolded us: "Any kind of moral and intellectual confusion about who and what is right or wrong can severely weaken the ability of free societies to persevere."
Leave aside Rumsfeld's arrogant and patronizing attitude, showing evident contempt for anyone who didn't agree with his notions of right and wrong. Were we, are we, morally and intellectually confused?
In the last eight years we have learned the hard way that any society which lets the wealthy and powerful determine what is right and wrong is not a free society. We were bamboozled into accepting Bush as president by partisan tinkering with the election process. We were cheated by a Congress in the pay of the military industrial complex, and robbed of freedoms and our good name through secrecy and fraud.
We didn't want to attack Iraq - we let ourselves be seduced by fear and the simplistic myth of Good Guys/Bad Guys, and we allowed our natural skepticism be overwhelmed by the covert management of news overlaid with the glitter of clever script-writing.
But we did finally recognize that the Bush administration was neither moral nor intelligent, and elected an eminently sensible man to be our President. Somehow we had the good sense to choose someone who expects us to participate in the moral and intellectual processes that determine what is right or wrong for all of us, for all of humanity and for the planet we live on. Not who is right or wrong - we are all fallible, and capable of committing wrongs -- but what is right or wrong. And not so our society can ‘persevere' (meaning ‘win at any cost'?) but so all of humanity can survive and share in the goodness of life on our small planet.
Morality is necessarily confused: the demands of self, family, friends, community, faith, and nation pull us in different directions. As long as we construe morality in terms of sexual behavior and the unworthiness of some to share in our goods, rights, and freedoms, we're going to continue down the road to perdition - ecologically, evolutionarily, economically, and morally.
What is the moral value of freedom, if it's based the unfreedom of others: prisons, torture, wars, walls, famine, sickness and ignorance? Are we morally convinced that the use by Israel of tanks, attack helicopters, F-16s, white phosphorus bombs and depleted uranium weapons is not only justified but necessary to control a few impovrished rocket launchers? Is it moral to believe that the only way to teach Palestinians to behave is to kill 100 of them for every Israeli killed?
And who is morally confused? The parents of sick children with no health insurance? The laid-off worker with a mortgage he can't pay? John Thain with his million-dollar redecoration? Rod Blagojevic?.
Are we confused intellectually? Richard Gregory, the British neuroscientist, crafted this definition of intelligence to generalize to all systems: the ability to generate and understand successful novelty. Intelligence is creating new things that work, and understanding the value of what they do.
Its opposite would be the inability to generate and assess new ideas, and the tendency to insist on orthodoxy, conventionality, and the same old ideas that don't work, like ‘war brings peace,' ‘tax cuts make everyone rich,' ‘gun ownership makes everyone safe,' ‘criminalizing abortion prevents sin.'
Since we came down out of the trees we have been releasing into our air, water, soil, food and surroundings thousands, maybe millions, of pathogens and substances that are toxic, carcinogenic, teratogenic or that we are otherwise unadapted to handle. Sometimes these substances made enough ‘noise' that we noticed them and took steps to mitigate their effects: plague, TB, HIV, lead, coal smoke, mercury, poison gas, nuclear radiation, tobacco smoke, salmonella, mad-cow disease, melamine. Some we actually used to subdue or destroy enemies; most were merely used to improve profitability or market share.
In the last hundred years science and technology have given us unimaginably novel tools and opportunities we are ill-prepared to deal with either morally or intellectually, including artificial insemination, cheap oil-based polymers, genetically-modified organisms, organ transplants, computers, access to space, nuclear weapons.
We can't decide whether it is more moral to do things for fun or do them for profit. We too often don't ask who pays, and is the price right? The octuplets recently born are a triumph of medical technology, yet we are far from agreed that multiple births are a blessing that ought to be available to all.
Have we the intelligence to generate some successful novelty that will stop the slaughter of Palestinians?Are we moral enough to demand funding for contraception, or an end to drone attacks on impoverished villages?
We've come this far because millions of us got engaged with the moral and intellectual issues of the 21st century. Staying engaged, generating, using and understanding new ideas and ways of doing things is our best hope. We will need really sturdy processes of consensus; we will need excellent schools and honest information systems. We will need shared concepts of the common good, and equal treatment under law.
And we will need to exercise our moral and intellectual muscles by trying out the novel web-based applications like YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and the new "Organization for America" e-mail list of 13 million people, and see if they work.
Most of all we need to talk with President Obama, our Congress, and our neighbors about the moral and intellectual challenges we face.




24 Comments so far
Show All"...definition of intelligence to generalize to all systems: the ability to generate and understand successful novelty. Intelligence is creating new things that work, and understanding the value of what they do."
I would add
"A moral point of view serves as a substitute for understanding in
technological matters." Marshall McCluan
also
"We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We march backwards into the future." MM
As they showed the Native tribes right & wrong don't matter to them. Old rule in this world is those that have the gold & guns make the rules.
Regardless there aren't any taxes in Heaven because Caesar's rule is limited to this world.
Life is good. What an experience!
"As they showed the Native tribes right & wrong don't matter to them."
Who do you mean by "them"?
Surely, Joe, you can engage your brain for the small amoubnt of time it would take to answer this question for yourself?
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
An important article, Caroline, one that should be read and thought about by everyone.
The American people must realize that the country they have is the country they deserve. If they're not happy with it then they are the ones who must do something about it.
After all, they live in a democracy, don't they?
P.S. Check out my DUMB AND DUMBER post, get up to speed!
www.dangerouscreation.com
Yes, we live in the best democracy money can buy. But I have to agree with you that America has the Government they deserve, since so many,many Americans qualify politically, for Dumb and Dumber. If you read the Drudge Report, you will see what I mean!
Sioux Rose
PAUL R: I do NOT agree. If your statement were true, America would deserve more than ONE government since we are hardly a homogeneous pool! Persons of conscience have NEVER gotten behind the Bush regime, many of us realized Clinton was a sell-out, and I for one have protested against the military industrial complex since I was 16! Written articles, books, etc... done what I could to educate. We are up against the most well-funded propaganda machine in history, added to a set of uniformed guards prepared to follow orders regardless of whether those orders are in concert with the LAW or the Constitution or Bill of rights. Hostile takeover doesn't just apply to a corporation. It HAS happened to corporate USA, brand America, where business = government, and too many churches along with media play along. The little Davids of us out here, and in that pack I include luminaries who have been whistleblowers, voices of conscience, many of them read weekly on this thread... it's quite an impressive opponent, although I think George Lucas was CHANNELING a spiritual truth that may have transcended his own thought process in providing a RECIPE for how to take down the death star. It's about unexpected ad hoc groups, those who may not share the same specific agenda, coming together and out of that shared synergy finding the flaw in the death star. Seldom has such a requirement been dearer.
we do not need a bigger paddle for our life boat, we need a smaller boat.
And we have to grapple with these issues in the context of a corrupted electoral system, a government infested with neocon nincompoops, and little independent journalism outside of the internet.
"Have we the intelligence to generate some successful novelty that will stop the slaughter of Palestinians?"
Hamas can do no wrong. Israelis don't matter, let them suffer.
This kind of moral relativism, so often expressed here on CD, is getting really old.
I have been reading the articles and comments here on CD for quite some time. Although it's true that most of the folks who comment here are opposed to what Israel is doing these days, I have yet to hear anyone say anything to suggest that Hamas is all good and the Israelis don't matter. I'm sure that anyone who openly advocated any kind of terrorism be it Israeli or Hamas, they would be banned from this site by its moderators. As far as I'm concerned, both sides have more than their share of ideological verman but it just so happens that Israel has the means to do a hell of a lot more damage than the Palistinians ever had - courtesy of the United States of America.
"anyone who openly advocated any kind of terrorism be it Israeli or Hamas, they would be banned from this site by its moderators."
You would be amazed! Not only have many of the comments called for the destruction of Israel, but recently someone actually suggested that I be executed by firing squad. To my knowledge, they have not been banned.
I am already amazed Joe. But not by the posts you so readily slander and distort, but by your insistence upon doing so.
The posts to which you refer do exist unfortunately, but they are in the small minority and do not, as you suggest, represent any sort of majority opinion here on CD.
Yes, of course, there are radical and radically wrong opinions posted here, your own being a prime example thereof.
I commend the words of Mr. Squirrel and applaud his perceptive comment.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
Thanks, rick.
I seldom post here because I find the majority of the posters to be much wiser and more articulate than I and the rest to act like a bunch of jackasses. Didn't you say you were new here? Welcome to the club.
The Barking Squirrel
What a hypocrite! When you support Kahanist anti-Arab racists like Judy Levy; you are the one that should be banned. But that's CD's call, not mine unfortunately.
First of all, nobody is advocating destruction of Israel but instead REFORMING Israel for the better. I cannot see how Israeli residents can live in peace and security especially when the reality that they are residing on fresh blood has got to haunt them.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Reads like a "Why I want to be Miss America" speech. The gratuitous mentions of Israel, Palestine, and Amerindians seem...well, gratuitous.
What a crock of shit. You can't ignore reality no matter how hard you try. I guess you're doing hunky dory, ain't you?
Leave it to the Israeli shills, joehope & Judy Levy, to try to derail a topic that may truthfully criticize the inhuman and illegal 2 year blockade of Gaza.
These two know no morality that is not dictated by the Zionist Israelis.
Americans need to decide for themselves - not be dictated to by the arms merchants who are in control and pander to the likes of Israel so they can sell their armaments.
But I could be wrong !
Methinks you are correct. In fact I have been arriving at that same conclusion bit by bit. The purpose of such as you mention, and let me note there several others as well,would seem to be to derail conversation about certain topics.
It is a sad commentary that I and others allow that to happen....
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
Caroline
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We all have a voice in right vs. wrong
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While this should be self-evident in a democracy, unfortunately, even millions of voices don't carry the same weight as the power of the few in the federal government.
I'd rather not frame the differences as "right" or "wrong" but constitutional or unconstitutional. The Constitution is the pivot on which all political choices must turn, not "right" or "wrong". "Right" or "wrong" are choices for our personal values, not our political principles.
"Five years after suicidal zealots crashed planes into our comfortable lives.."
For those who still believe this and are spreading this happy myth, please read this free book: www.9112012.com. It was specifically written for those Americans who believe what is in Time magazine or on CNN or PBS. Fox is propaganda, of course, but PBS? CNN? NY Times? Common Dreams? It must be true because everyone says it, right? Actually, we might have to dig a bit for truth and even then, are we ever going to know what really happened? No, but to take the official story on pure faith. Well, I find that depressing, but all too common. Please read this book, the author did quite a bit of research for several years, research that most people clearly are not taking the time to do because they are too busy working and living. That is understandable, but unacceptable at this moment in time. A corrupt government took the United States to war, despite large protests, in two countries on false pretexts. That is criminal and amoral. Our new president is continuing the lie. Why? Because America is the land of amoral opportunists. No, I don't think that most Americans have those values, but those who rise to the top certainly have proven themselves to be amoral opportunists. My short answer: live as locally as you can. If you need a new appliance, make sure that your money isn't going to a company who also makes weapons. And please educate yourself, your friends and loved ones: www.9112010.com
This article needs to have follow up.
There is , in our democracy, a lack of participation that seems to have increased over time, especially since the turbulent sixties and seventies. We certainly have abrogated our responsibilities to our nation by failing to participate as proven by the numbers of those who never vote, the lack of demonstrations against blatant constitutional violations, against inhumane treatment of those whose guilt we do not prove, against a for profit war and a for profit government that supports the interests of the few over the needs of the many.
The article suggests that the future is in the internet, I disagree, though perhaps, as it is really still in its infancy, I may be proven wrong. Supposed activism, as illustrated by this forum and many others, serves dubious purpose I fear. For one, it seems to isolate and make anonymous our protest, we really preach to the choir here and fail utterly to broaden our audience to those who need to hear the message.
Another such potential purpose which alarms me is that our arguments are fuel for the oppositions arming themselves with ways to combat a message before it leaks into public consciousness. When tens of thousands took to the streets it was much more difficult to diminish the reasons for such action. While the media remains servile to the ruling class in this nation the fact of so many in the streets and the speeches made therein served to publicize that which would otherwise have no ear. The same is certainly untrue of this media.
I wonder if my opinion finds commonality with anyone here?
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so. Bertrand Russell
Unless you can dangle some money bags up your pols' eyes, your voice is "irrelevant" as far as they are concerned.