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Criticisms, Political Pressure and Barack Obama
Barack Obama's announced intentions on ABC News this Sunday regarding Guantanamo sparked substantial objections from civil liberties and human rights advocates. The result of those objections? From today's New York Times:
President-elect Barack Obama plans to issue an executive order on his first full day in office directing the closing of the Guantánamo Bay detention camp in Cuba, people briefed by Obama transition officials said Monday.
Not only did Obama advisers quickly leak that Obama planned to do that -- something he made no mention of on ABC or at any time before that -- but they also made known that they have all but rejected the principal plan urged by the pro-war, anti-civil-liberties Brookings Institution and like-minded comrades (such as former Bush official Jack Goldsmith) for a Congressionally-authorized scheme of preventive detention to empower the President to indefinitely detain Terrorists inside the U.S. without having to charge them with any crimes:
In addition, people who have conferred with transition officials said the incoming administration appeared to have rejected a proposal to seek a new law authorizing indefinite detention inside the United States. . . .
In formulating their policy in recent weeks, Obama transition officials have consulted with a variety of authorities on legal and human rights and with military experts. Several of those experts said the officials had expressed great interest in alternatives to the military commission system, like trying detainees in federal courts, and appeared to have grown hostile to proposals like an indefinite detention law.
Why did Obama advisers rush forth on Monday to ensure publication of articles like this one with new announcements for Obama's plans for closing Guantanamo? The reason seems rather obvious, but in case it isn't, the NYT spells it out:
The president-elect drew criticism from some human rights groups Monday who said his remarks suggested that closing Guantánamo was not among the new administration's highest priorities. . . . .
Several said the officials appeared concerned that a proposal for a new law authorizing indefinite detention would bring the new administration much of the criticism that has been directed at the Bush administration over Guantánamo. A former military official who was part of a series of briefings at the transition headquarters in Washington said the officials had spoken about the indefinite detention proposal as a way of creating a "new Guantanámo someplace else."
There are still many vital details left unaddressed, beginning with what Obama meant in the interview when he spoke of the need for authority -- what he called a new "process" -- to detain accused Terrorists even when the evidence against them is "tainted." Critically, the NYT article does not indicate what Obama's views are regarding the largest concern prompted by his Sunday comments: namely, whether he favors the commonly advocated policy (also urged by Brookings/Goldsmith) to create, upon the closing of Guantanamo, a new so-called "national security court" or other type of judicial process that allows "tainted" evidence (including torture-induced confessions) to be introduced, whereby the "new court" would -- as Brookings/Goldsmith euphemistically put it -- "reduce the burdens on and dangers to ordinary civilian courts and employ nimbler evidentiary and classification rules."
As the ACLU's Anthony Romero is quoted as pointing out in this morning's NYT article:
The devil is in the details. Just like we need specifics on an economic recovery package, we need specifics on a justice recovery package.
For those reasons, these new Guantanamo announcements are very far from a guarantee that Obama will do the right thing here. Still, these leaked responses to Sunday's criticisms are an important step forward, and they underscore the reasons why it is so vital to express criticism of Obama when he deserves it.
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Politicians, by definition, respond to political pressure. Those who decide that it's best to keep quiet and simply trust in the goodness and just nature of their leader are certain to have their political goals ignored. It's always better -- far better -- for a politician to know that he's being scrutinized closely and will be praised and supported only when his actions warrant that, and will be criticized and opposed when they don't.
Right this moment, there are enormous pressures being exerted on Obama not to make significant changes in the areas of civil liberties, intelligence policy and foreign affairs. That pressure is being exerted by the intelligence community, by the permanent Pentagon structures, by status-quo-loving leaders of both political parties, by authority-worshipping Beltway "journalists" and pundits (such as the ones who wrote the wretched though illustrative "What Would Dick Do?" cover story for this week's Newsweek).
If those who want fundamental reform in these areas adopt the view that they will not criticize Barack Obama because to do so is to "help Republicans," or because he deserves more time, or because criticisms are unnecessary because we can trust in him to do the right thing, or because criticizing him is to "tear him down" or "create a circular firing squad" or "be a Naderite purist" or any of those other empty platitudes, then they are ceding the field to the very powerful factions who are going to fight vehemently against any changes. Do you think that those who want the CIA to retain "robust" interrogation and who want the federal surveillance state maintained, or want a hard-line towards Iran and a continuation of our Middle East policies, or who want to maintain corporate-lobbyist-domination of Washington, are sitting back saying: "it's not right to pressure Obama too much right now; give him some time"?
It's critical that Obama -- and the rest of the political establishment -- hear loud objections, not reverential silence, when he flirts with ideas like the ones he suggested on Sunday. This dynamic prevails with all political issues. Where political pressure comes only from one side, that is the side that wins -- period.
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We just witnessed the results of that dynamic with the ugly spectacle last week of a virtually unanimous Congress approving a completely one-sided Israel/Gaza Resolution. That Middle East war is an issue which, whatever else one might want to say about it, generates intense controversy, division and passion around the world. But not in the U.S. Congress. There, virtually the entire Congress (510 of the 535 members) -- from the furthest left precincts of the Democratic Party to the furthest right-wing of the Republican Party, from all four corners of the U.S. and everywhere in between -- looked at this war and just-so-happened to reach the same exact conclusion: not only is Israel 100% in the right, but the U.S. should involve itself publicly and squarely on Israel's side.
Does anyone actually believe that, in the absence of extremely effective political pressure, 510 ideologically diverse members of Congress -- at exactly the moment when worldwide opposition to the Israeli assault is growing in response to documented civilian horrors -- would all have jointly decided that Israel was right to bomb and invade Gaza and that it is in America's interests to insinuate itself on Israel's side? Even Governors, such as Democrat Martin O'Malley of Maryland, ludicrously popped up to follow the pro-Israel script.
That happens for one clear reason: because one side of the debate (the AIPAC faction) is strong and aggressive in its criticisms and pressure tactics and the other side (the faction wanting an even-handed U.S. approach) is not. Over the weekend, Juan Cole described this dynamic perfectly:
Europe has ceded dealing with the Israelis to the United States.
The people of the United States have ceded dealing with the Israelis to the US Congress.
The US Congress generally abdicates its responsibilities when faced with large powerful single-issue lobbies such as the National Rifle Association, the Cuban-American pro-boycott organizations, and the Israel lobbies.
So Congress has ceded Israel, and indeed, most Middle East, policy to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and its myriad organizational supporters, from the Southern Baptist churches to the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. The Israel lobbies take their cue on what is good policy from the Israeli government and the Likud Party.
So, US Israel policy is driven by . . . the Israeli rightwing. That is why Congress voted 309 to five to support Israel's war on the people of Gaza, with 22 abstaining.
If those who get angry whenever Obama is criticized have their way -- and as anyone who writes about political issues knows, there is a small though quite substantial and vocal minority who get angry when they read criticisms of Obama -- the Israel dynamic that Cole describes will drive every issue.
Just as Congressional Democrats have known for the last eight years, Obama will know that there is only a price to pay when he acts contrary to the Republican and Beltway "centrist" agenda, but no price to pay when he acts contrary to the agenda of his most ardent supporters (because they won't criticize him, because to do is to "tear him down," "help Republicans," act like a Naderite purist, etc. etc. etc.). That meek and deferential attitude -- aside from being a wildly inappropriate and even dangerous way to treat a political leader -- also ensures that one is irrelevant and taken for granted and one's views easily ignored.
When Obama does things that warrant praise -- when he appoints someone like Dawn Johnsen as OLC Chief, or defies Beltway demands by going outside of the intelligence community to find his CIA Director -- he should be praised. When he does things that warrant criticism -- such as going on national television to talk about the need for a special process to allow the use of "tainted" evidence against Guantanamo detainees, or when he openly contemplates naming someone as CIA Director who supports rendition and torture, or when he votes in favor of warrantless eavesdropping and telecom amnesty -- he should be vigorously criticized. When he makes statements without any apparent basis -- such as Sunday's assertion that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons -- he ought to be made to account for that claim and show evidence for it. That's just basic accountability for a political official.
Like all politicians, Obama is not intrinsically good. Good things don't happen by virtue of the mere existence of his presidency. His presidency will be good only and exactly to the extent that he does good things. Pressure and criticisms make his doing those good things more likely (there is a quote from FDR, which I cannot find but am certain commenters will quickly cite, where FDR privately instructed his supporters to publicly criticize him for not doing X so that he would be able to do X more easily).
Obama is about to become one of the world's most powerful political leaders, if not the single most powerful. He begins with sky-high approval ratings, his political party in control of Congress by a large margin, and enjoys reverence so intense from certain quarters that such a loyal following hasn't been seen since the imperial glow around George Bush circa 2002. He's not going to crumble or melt away like the Wicked Witch if he's pressured or criticized. The far more substantial danger is that he won't be pressured or criticized enough by those who are eager to see meaningful changes in Washington, and then -- either by desire or necessity -- those are the voices he will ignore most easily.
UPDATE: The benefits of having a very smart, informed and active comment section can't be overstated. The very first commenter here points to this:
FDR was, of course, a consummate political leader. In one situation, a group came to him urging specific actions in support of a cause in which they deeply believed. He replied: "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it."
Those who adopt the "stop-criticizing-Obama" mentality renounce that vital instrument for influencing the outcome of political events.
UPDATE II: At The Washington Monthly, Hilzoy amply documents why the one issue left unresolved by the Obama/Guantanamo leaks to the NYT -- namely: whether to create a special, new process to allow use of "tainted evidence" against Guantanamo detainees -- may be the most important issue of all. She argues eloquently why doing so would be a catastrophic decision. Obama, as reflected by his Sunday comments, is clearly contemplating something like that, and it's because of issues like this one that it's so vital that pressure on Obama be maintained, criticisms of him be voiced when merited, and praise be expressed only when earned.
There are no shortage of blogs and websites devoted to giddy cheerleading and constructing hagiographies for Obama, and those who dislike being exposed to criticisms of Obama will, in just eight short days, have still another ideal website to frequent. By contrast, this won't be a very good place to visit for those seeking that.
UPDATE III: John Cole points to a really extreme -- and quite amazing -- example of what happens when only one side of a political debate is organized, engaged and aggressive.
Conversely, in comments, El Cid points to an important historical example illustrating the real benefits that come from a President's supporters applying intense and adversarial pressure to ensure that their political priorities are heeded.
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Show AllThis is the best article I've ever read by Glenn Greenwald. The counterbalance between the two different yet related: torture/Guantanamo/legal-limbo with the analysis of how Congress got to be the place looked to for "what do do" about Israel is good.
At the same time, it cannot be dismissed that the Executive Branch has had enormous power, whether or not or how Presidents Clinton, Bush2 used or didn't use it to "urge" Israel to stop its occupation, blockade, settlements on West Bank and horrors in Gaza. On the one hand, it's an article about the President's powers, what Obama has said, can and "might" do (via leaks. I always wait on "leaks" in re action.)about Guantanamo, then switches to Congress on Israel policies without mentioning Obama in re Israel/Palestine:Gaza attack by Israeli government. Short term and long term:cease fire and solving or dissolving the occupation, including blockade.
Note: On DemocracyNow yesterday, Neve Gordon, whose articles have been on CD recently also, said that 700 Israelis have been arrested for protesting against the government in recent days, as a deterrent to protests against the government's attacks in Gaza. www.democracynow.org
(Where is the headlines story in the left column on this site from the Irish Times, on dead children in Gaza now? Anyone know?)
Some of us (gasp) actually think that Obama truly groks the systemic nature of the current meltdown. He is functioning on more levels than we are used to. And yes he has to play the game. But he understands the concept of wheels within wheels. And he has the rare talent of simultaneously being both a very convincing actor and being vAt ery comfortable in his own skin as his own person. At any rate, the more I read about the governor of my own state, the happier I am that Obama is taking the oath and not Palin / McCain. That is a truly scary thing to contemplate.
Maybe he knows that it is not possible to change horses in the middle of a raging river. First you have to get to the far side.
How do most of us function in the middle of a divorce, death or other personal family crisis ? We keep going until we get past it.
What is he supposed to do, stop the ginormous supertanker we call the United States on a dime and turn it 180 degrees ? Not gonna happen. It's so easy to criticize, but what would YOU do that would be effective ? Before you were even sworn in ?
What am I doing ? I am holding a vision of my preferred new currency. Hempscript. Backed by a real good in the real world. Maybe not this world, but one that is real to me nonetheless. Just not manifesting right yet. I am also making a donation to the Presidential Library. I have noticed that Obama is very expressive with his hands when he talks. So I am donating a copy of Signing in Fourteen Languages. It is so liberating to learn ONE sign language expression and see the equivalent written in fourteen of the world's major languages listed below it. I am accompanying the book with a note suggesting that as an antidote to 'being in the bubble', he might consider studying sign language. Because it takes your brain out of verbal thinking mode. And allows people with no common verbal language to communicate. Would be very handy for travelers and diplomats if we had an International Sign Language.
copperiverkid:I have deaf friends (with whom I can't sign),and am myself losing hearing (as does all my family). You are on to something. I think an International Sign language would be great, to learn as a foreign language in school. There are some schools teaching ASL American Sign Language, as a second language. It's better than the esperanto idea of decades ago. Cape Cod had so many people who were deaf in the late 1800s, most of the people knew sign language. And sign language of various ways and means are used in baseball. Good idea. Thanks.
"Maybe he knows that it is not possible to change horses in the middle of a raging river."
I don't know copperiverkid, does this really describe our situation?????
As far as turning the supertanker on a dime, we all know that is not possible yet in our world. But we don't have to be a supertanker country either. Also, if we are structured like a supertanker, we have to do everything we can to turn as quick as we can from our course. So we are talking about Obama's acclaimed limits to this turn and if he is talking about the truth, or the truth of those who are telling him what their truth is. Then we are saying if our truth does not match the truth of those telling him what the truth is, then we have to get our truth to him for consideration.
This done through first deciding if we disagree, and also deciding what we mean to tell him.
Right now the people and their power seems to be a million scattered tug boats that all have a line on the supertanker and are ineffectual in and power for direction at all. But if like in finding Nemo we have a common cause and we all just keep tugging, just keep tugging, just keep tugging, etc, in a common direction, we will direct Obama and the super tanker. Collectively, a supertanker that cannot turn on a dime alone, might just be turned on a dime with a million plus tug boats, pulling on it meaningfully.
"groks"????????
Does this mean he grasps the nature?
Heinlein, actually, if you'll pardon a geek's correction:
To grok (pronounced /ˈgrɒk/) is to share the same reality or line of thinking with another physical or conceptual entity. Author Robert A. Heinlein coined the term in his best-selling 1961 book Stranger in a Strange Land. In Heinlein's view of quantum theory, grokking is the intermingling of intelligence that necessarily affects both the observer and the observed.
From the novel:
“Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed—to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science—and it means as little to us (because of our Earthly assumptions) as color means to a blind man.”
· Yr Obd't Servant
Ohhhh, excellent. Thanks Obedient Servant, you can do geek corrections in my world all you want.
Yes, I agree. The key word to understanding this enormous problem of gaining representation in our so-called republic is "systemic," as mentioned by DaveBronstein. Obama will respond to the demands of the system, rather than the will of well-meaning voters.
Voters who ride on Obama's personality don't understand, maybe, that it's a facade. Obama's campaign was funded by elite high-finance institutions, for the most part, not by voters. Obama has promised fealty to continuing the wars. Even his so-called antiwar speech as a senator was seriously hedged. He emphasized, "I do not oppose all wars" three times. It was a message to the defense industries that profits will still flow under an Obama regime.
A departing President Eisenhower, who was no peacenik, warned the country against the military industrial complex. That's the beast that Obama has to satisfy. The military industrial complex protects access to oil around the world. Oil fuels future wars and general industry. High finance funds industry, which is constantly looking abroad for resources and cheap labor to exploit - all to satisfy the profit demands of stockholders.
So, in the sphere of things, how much weight will your protest letter to Obama have?
It's worth a try to write, but Greenwald's a little too optimistic about getting loyal Democratic supporters to do it. We saw the Clinton administration push right-wing policies and wars with nary a peep from the contented Democratic sheep. It was the thought that Clinton was a liberal that made them content - even if untrue.
If a president can set the right emotional tone, quite a lot of people will go along with the program, even if that program entails holding people in some gulag somewhere. I don't know how you break loyal Dems from this trance and self-deception.
Institutionally, the wars have been good for capitalists, both U.S.-based and otherwise. It's been a disaster for this country, for working people, for democracy. It's meant death for U.S. youth. It's meant the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents abroad. Any Obama actions that sustain the wars and illegal detentions must be seen from this light - and vigorously opposed.
-TIA
As I stated in a quote above, I don't feel I know Obama real well as an individual and so what I imagine is directing him seems a little out of my grasp. But if we are all going to talk about him as if we know what is driving him (money, power, oil etc.) I will take a moment to put my observations about Obama in. I believe that he is a human being like me, and in that sense, very much like me. I think that his primary driver, just like me, is for love. Love, happiness, acceptance, hope. So in his case, getting that love probably can get complicated. He does not want to fail, neither his family with his lovely wife and sweet girls, nor his larger intimate circle of friends and family. He does not want to fail his black family who he is the first ever to represent as "president of the United States of America", he does not want to fail his larger American family who also are so glad of his color barrier breaking. He does not want to fail his world family who also is in love with him and his color as president of the most powerful country in the world. Wow, his plate is huge, but perhaps no bigger than mine, after all, I don't want to fail the world or my loved ones either, I care just as much, and I am equal to him in all the important ways. Also I make up one of the everyone that makes the we that makes Obama do what we mean him to do. So I feel that pressure, we feel that pressure, and that is why we are here, writing our posts, sharing what we do, trying to find common ground and common truth to do it by.
Well enough said, and probably said poorly as we all here know I often do. Maybe one of my friends will bail me out and say it better. ;O).
One last thing TIA, here is a quote of yours "Oil fuels future wars and general industry" I think that if we dig a little further, it is our use of oil that fuels the wars. MY use, Your use.
I think what you are saying is that it is still possible Obama may do what's right from a human point of view, because he's ... human.
Sure, it's possible. No one knows, although his decisions leading up to this past election suggest he will decide in favor of the wealthy interests that funded his campaign, not the public interest.
Take the FISA bill that Obama signed as a senator. He promised early on not to let the telecom companies escape penalties for violating the Fourth Amendment, otherwise known as tapping U.S. citizens' e-mails and phone conversations without warrants. When a bill was produced that promised to let the telecom companies off the hook (and the Bush administration, too, by default), Obama cheerfully signed the bill, without so much as a pause. Why? Obama is a Constitutional lawyer, we're told. Wouldn't that suggest he'd do the right thing and protect our inalienable rights, like freedom from unwarranted search and seizure, described in the Constitution? So, how do you explain his vote? What prompted him to vote against the interests of the people?
Political science is a misnomer. It's more like political philosophy. However, there is one effective analysis trend in poly sci and that's to explain things from an institutional perspective, not from a personal perspective. Candidates need money to get elected, and they get that funding from corporations for the most part. The U.S. telecom companies are a cluster of wealthy monopolistic companies that can supply the green - to either of the two parties, or both. In the case of AT&T, it was a major funder of the Democratic National Convention. And that sort of convention funding is unlimited. It doesn't have to be disclosed in a public record.
So did Obama sell out the Fourth Amendment to get AT&T's dough? Probably, but we don't really know for sure. It sure makes for a convincing explanation. You can see this kind of pattern quite clearly, with every politician, once you start checking the numbers.
I mention the defense, oil and high finance industries as other players that have more influence with Obama than masses of protesting and letter-writing citizens. It's a major problem with our republic. I personally think we live in an plutocracy verging on fascism, but that's another matter.
Are we the problem because we are consumers and use oil? I think that's your question. Well, some have commented that the United States would not have occupied Iraq if that country's chief export were cabbages rather than oil. From an institutional perspective (military, agriculture, industry), oil is considered "vital to the national interests."
If you look back, you can see that presidents as disparate as FDR, Carter, and Bush all agree on that point. Meanwhile, countries more advanced, such as Sweden, are coordinating technologies that will enable that country to be completely independent from all foreign oil imports in a few years. Just because there are institutional interests pressing in a certain direction, it doesn't mean that's the best course of action.
Do we citizens agree to murder people abroad for oil? No, I don't agree to that contention at all. I disagree that we citizens are the problem. Many have begged for alternative energy programs to be pushed in Washington. Recall that it's companies like Exxon Mobile that pay to publish essays in newspapers claiming global warming is exaggerated.
See the movie, "Who Killed the Electric Car," to see how General Motors eliminated an innovative, successful, alternative-fuel vehicle that people wanted to buy. GM had its own EV-1 electric cars mechanically crushed to eliminate a successful experiment that would have indeed reduced national oil dependency to a degree. That movie showed quite well how institutional pressures led to bad policy.
I could go on. Hope I'm being clear. I'm not saying don't take personal action, by the way. I eat vegetarian and ride my bike to work - both of which reduce oil consumption. My point is just that Obama will act like most presidents before him, serving our corporate masters. Push him to do the right thing, sure, but know what forces oppose the public interest. Which is more influential?
-TIA
Thanks for your reply TIA, very thoughtful.
Leea
Well said.
DaveBronstein I think you might have an excellent point.
Here is a quote of yours "It isn't going to be anywhere near that easy. US society is rotten to the core; it's been rotting for many decades."
Since society is made up of individual people, it must follow that we are all rotten to the core? Or is their a group that you see that is without blemish?? Yourself??
Me??? Other posters here???
I personally do not think of myself as part of the mainstream american society, I tend to believe I am in a different barrel of apples, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Leea
Ok great, thanks for your reply. I figured that you would reply like this.
So then is the fact we have a society that is separate from the individuals that live in it, and that can have characteristics that is relatively free from those same individuals that live with it's shadow, is this what is rotten?
But since it is not in nature a representation of the individuals that live in it, it's a superstructure that like the rock, cannot necessarily be treated the same at all as the living people. So the society and the fact it is rotten to the core, may not matter at all when it comes to talking about our power, compared to it.
If you are personally without blemish, do you believe in the idea of equality??? and if we are all equal is being without blemish a characteristic that matters to equality? If it doesn't matter then being rotten would probably not matter either when it comes to equality, especially since the rot lies in the social structure and not necessarily the people themselves.
I think it is the things that really matter that make a difference for now and for ever.
I don't think that what we have been talking about here really matters at all.
But I could be wrong.
DaveBronstein...you make me laugh...in a good way! Plus Im glad I got you to say that it is how society is "organized" that is rotten. I think you hit the nail on the head there. Organized society is the problem, because their organization is leading to rotten consequences. Also how Obama organizes his administration, for the people's will or against the people's will is very important to this discussion.
It's the difference between freedom and slavery.
Sioux Rose
DAVE B: As usual, fine analysis; but you must admit for a public trained on entertainment, seeing the idiot leave the stage to be replaced by the thinker definitely has cosmetic, or should I say hypnotic, appeal.
"what do do" about Isreal is good?
Hehehehhahahahahahahhe.
Fruedian slip?
Love you NYCartist
Leea:Hi. I haven't figured out the Freudian slip. Point it out. (You know me, the slow older woman...) Nice to see you back.
It's ok, private joke of mine. But you made me happy and that is all that really counts.
Thanks, nice to see you too.
Leea:you are optimistic today. It feels good to read it.
Wouldn't it be great if Obama could be more like Bush and not listen to anybody?
i hate to be nitpicky, but Bush listened to God.
Greenwald's "praise him or criticize" him depending on which we think he merits should give us the space within we can engage in a dialogue about what IS or IS NOT meritorious in Obama's actions and intentions---without being sidetracked by critics who think that his defenders are just being blinded by their emotional devotion to him (which I have often said or thought); or by defenders of his actions who think that critics are just out for reasons of personal prejudice to do damage to Obama (the sin of which I have often been accused, probably with justification.) The pro- anti-Obama bias jumps out immediately with virtually every CD commenter. If we truly want to participate, as we are so often urged to do, in the deliberations by which decisions are made in our communities, states, nation and world, we MUST take this deliberative attitude, speaking (and LISTENING) to one another and sticking always to the subject: whether it be appropriate treatment of Guantanamo detainees, U.S. relation to the conflict in Gaza, or whatever. The election contest is over, folks, and there will be time enough at later elections to return to the pointing with pride and viewing with alarm that is the very character of campaigns. I'm certainly willing to give Barack Obama, as I would John McCain or any other elected President, the respect to which the office of President entitles him, but to speak freely and frankly, whether I am inclined to criticize or praise. In so doing, I won't observe any false mandate of "fair and balanced" in my judgment, which is the province of proper journalism but not of the citizen.
Jerry D Rose,
First, thank you very much for this comment, it is most excellent.
Next I will point out that at least in regards to me, and I might be speaking for many others, I comment on my own feelings, not on my feelings on Obama. I don't know him, and the very little prism of reality that we see of him is not worthy of decision making. But I have great and deep knowledge of myself, and when Obama does something or says something, my thoughts about him are far from my mind, and any more not really in my mind. But me, I have every right, god given and country given to stand up and defend.
That is what I am doing. Is anyone here doing anything different??? If not, let us remember who it is we represent and what it is we represent, ourselves, not Obama.
Obama is a company man. He knows the language, the subtle and overt signals, and emits them like a beacon. Ruling circles have gotten the message, and that is why corporate media made him a contender, and corporate billfolds have financed him. The "skinny kid" made his bones at the Democratic National Convention, in August, 2004, while he was still an Illinois senatorial candidate - a shoo-in against the hopeless and deranged Black Republican Alan Keyes. Obama put all white fears to rest: "There is no white America. There is no black America. There is no Latino America. There is no Asian America. There is only the United States of America." Hallelujah!
The scam of this still-new century enthralls and envelopes the nation, a narrowly-packaged farce in which political twins Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pretended they are not joined at the hip on every public policy issue that has been allowed to enter the corporate media-vetted discourse: health care, Iraq, trade. Even these points of (non)contention disappear in the din of purely commercial marketing mantras with infinitely malleable meanings: "Change," "Hope," "Reform."
When no real change is offered - when national candidates are wedded to a lingering presence in Iraq and to reestablishing U.S. hegemony in the world; when insurance and drug companies are left virtually untouched by tepid forays into broadening health care coverage; and when neither offers a whisper of an idea on halting the corporate-engineered global Race to the Bottom, then it is certain that, although "change" may come, it will be at the direction of the rich who have brought the nation and planet to the very brink of catastrophe.
But then, Obama would never have risen so quickly and remarkably to his current position of dominant media favor and national prominence if he was anything like the egalitarian and democratic “progressive” that some liberals and leftists imagine. In the corporate-crafted and money-dominated swamp that passes for “representative democracy” in the U.S., concentrated economic and imperial power open and close doors in ways that preemptively suffocate populist potential. Big money is not in the business of promoting genuine social justice or democracy activists (so-called “gadflies” like Wellstone, to use Obama’s description).
Understanding public policy as a mechanism for the upward distribution of wealth, it promotes empire and inequality by underwriting the smothering K Street culture and the revolving door that feeds it—not just lobbyists themselves but the entire interconnected world of campaign consultants, public relations agencies, pollsters, and media strategists—without whose favor and assistance serious presidential bids are next to unthinkable.
Sioux Rose
Mcoyote: Extremely well-articulated points.
Yup. You nailed it.
Wow, the world that you see in control is pretty ominous, and powerful and you seem to have "nailed" it.
Now tell us about your world.
Superb analysis-- watch out that Joe Buck, or whatever his name is, doesn't stop by and call you a "Debbie Downer"! (I have personal experience in this area.)
· Yr Obd't Servant
Politicians are Pavlovian. Get hit they wince, to support they respond, public opinion and money too. Progressives need to organize to pull Obama in a Right Direction but How?
Did I miss anything? What are we, in grade school? With total respect to Glenn Greenwald, these points were obvious.
But I like this Mr. Greenwald, "Don't you dare be critical of Obama being criticized, you Obama supporters. Keep your mouths shut while those who know more than you do the talking."
YouBet Glenn. Yes Sir.
.In the main, that Pavlovian reaction mentioned is to those who write the checks and not those who cast the ballots. Sadly the ballot can be purchased through clever campaigning and expenditures of enough corporate monies. The monies, on the other hand, can only be collected by extravagant adherence to the demands of the check writer.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
The only thing worth anything is freely given. So our votes must remain the most violently fought after and costly thing that is bought to be freely given. Our votes, our will.
I have a suspicion that the real problem with this feeling that Obama is above criticism is being generated by the source.
Followers tend to express what comes from their leaders, if the followers are threatening those who would dissent to Obama's actions, the followers, this small but powerful group as acknowledged by Mr. Green, are being given the same message from the source it's self, Obama.
I sensed a great and dangerous superciliousness in Obama, and this is truly a problem that can indeed lead to a more terrible situation than the one we are moving out of.
But this can be avoided if we, the people, listen to our conscience and do what is right and demand that Obama do what is right as we demand.
We cannot thank Glenn enough for this post on common dreams, thank you, thank you, thank you. And we cannot thank our selves enough for prompting him to write it.
Thank us, thank us, thank us.
Greenwald gets it right as usual. I agree with the notion that if not for us "leftists" Obama would be able careen to the right without so much as a peep from the Obama-supporting Democratic Party apologists that inhabit CD and other "progressive" sites. We are the ones that make the noises that you read about in the papers. We are the unhappy “left base”.
For me, Obama's job is to give the leeches on Wall Street and Corporate America a transfusion to bring them back to health. The leeches have sucked the life out of Main Street and after the leeches get back on their feet the next job will be to try and make the host healthy enough for the leeches to be able to return to their parasitism.
Another Obama job is to continue US militarism by increasing the size and budget of the military and continue the flow of capital into the coffers of the MIC. He must continue to press for hegemony in the ME. And he needs his Obama-supporting Democratic Party apologists to continue to tell us that he is “anti-war” and reminding us that he made a speech against the war when he was a state Senator in Illinois six or seven years ago. It is important to keep repeating those lines. They'll need to say it over and over again. Again and again, keep saying, "Obama is anti-war...He made a speech..." Keep repeating it.
He must also swear allegiance to Israel no matter how many war crimes they commit.
His principle task can almost be summed up as: Bush III, minus some window dressing designed for sap consumption. Sure we’ll get a bone here or there. After all, the Obama-supporting Democratic Party apologists are going to need it to keep appearances up.
Lastly, his job to convince us that there is no longer any money left for social programs because the leeches and the MIC have used it all up. He will call it our “shared sacrifice”.
The job of the Obama-supporting Democratic Party apologists is to tell us all of the above isn't so. And they will, just watch.
.Chillingly accurate.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Here, here! Well done.
But one more thing, what is our job in all of this?????
Our job is to educate and pull blinders off. People are like sheep and allow the establishment to frame the debate in order to have them reach the pre-ordained conclusion.
The Republicans are horrible; therefore the Democrats must be good. Wrong! Obama is an African-American therefore he is going to help all minorities and the poor. Wrong! Obama made an anti-war speech therefore he will end all wars and work for peace. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
So we keep pointing out how the Democratic-Republican Party is really just the one party of greed, Wall Street Fat Cats, corporations, corruption, and war. We speak the truth and let the chips fall where they may. The truth cannot be denied.
Maybe after 4yrs of Democrats producing Republican-lite policies enough people will wake up the truth and we can have a Dennis Kucinich for president. At least that is the real hope. I understand for some people it will take many more years and for some they will never get it.
I heard on NPR some new neighbor of Bush near Dallas saying what a great president Bush has been. Clearly this guy will never get it.
I like this idea of educating and pulling blinders off that you express. How well are the educating and blind pulling groups doing? Are you happy with this group?? Could they improve and if so how?
Funny. How well are the groups doing? Not that great I reckon, but is it due to bad teaching or is it due to the lack of basic critical thinking skills of lackluster students? Are the students doing their homework? Do the students really care? Perhaps they like the blinders. Are vested interests involved? Maybe they would rather watch a Stupidball game on TV and drink beers.
How good was Galileo at educating the establishment about the movement of the planets? Not that great I reckon, bad teaching or bad students? Were vested interests involved? You tell me.
Dear Glenn, and so like Obama, and so like us all, we are none below mistake, and really who of us desires to blunder through life mistaking wrong for right when our brothers and sisters who love us may simply say to us, this action is wrong, so we are set aright again. Who of us can claim that we would have it any other way???
So Glenn may I take this moment to say you are wrong, and I will quickly discover with my common friends if I am right.
Lets begin by quoting you "Obama is about to become one of the world's most powerful political leaders, if not the single most powerful." This statement is wrong.
Simply because going with your own logic so wonderfully explained above, Obama is not the most powerful "leader", he is the most powerful "follower".
Will he follow right, or will he follow wrong? Only we can decide, and that makes us the most powerful "deciders" in the world.
Cheerio,
Leea
The anecdote from 1941 about FDR that Glenn Greenwald refers to in his latest fine opinion piece raises a couple of related issues in my mind.
In a nutshell, the story goes that two leading African American activists (A Phillip Randolph and Bayard Rustin) confront Roosevelt with the prospect of bringing 10,000 or 100,000 black people to Washington DC for a mass protest march, unless FDR will issue an executive order outlawing racial segregation in federal defense industry employment practices. Roosevelt freaks out, and tells Randolph and Rustin they should not hold their march because somebody might get killed. Both sides stand down for awhile, an acceptable executive order is crafted and signed by FDR, and the big threatened protest event is never held.
Ostensible moral of story: Organized political pressure from progressives can force, or enable, a President like Franklin Roosevelt or Barack Obama to enact progressive policies, even on big, highly contentious issues (just think what FDR's executive order meant in 1941, in terms of the flow of appropriated federal defense contract dollars to corporations operating in the Jim Crow south).
Therefore constituents should hold their elected representatives' feet to the fire from time to time. Hooray! The system can be made to work.
First related issue:
Why is it that when powerful left wing interests press Democratic or centrist political figures to enact progressive measures, those efforts are invariably characterized in the mainstream media as "demands" or "pressure", but when powerful right wing interests (say Dick Cheney's energy task force, the financial services de-regulation crowd, or evangelical social conservatives) do the same thing towards Republican politicians, the press simply shrugs and calls it politics as usual? Why do elected officials who move in a progressive direction "knuckle and fold under pressure", while elected officials who instead cater to the right wing's interests get depicted as merely providing their constituents with services?
Second related issue:
Just imagine how the 1941 FDR anecdote dynamic is about to change, right before our eyes.
What do you think would happen, and how do you think Fox News would report it, if Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson Jr. threatened President Barack Obama with another million man march in DC unless Obama agreed to support some specific policy they were advocating which involved civil rights or social justice?
Bill from Saginaw
I think Obama would listen, but if he didn't, then what would we think of him????
I am pasting this post at the top because I think I am on to something.
I'd like to ask everyone here, what do you think Obama should do in regards to Gitmo and torture. I think Gitmo can be closed immediately if that is what Obama decides he wants to do. I think that it should be closed the day he is sworn in.
Perhaps it will take awhile to move the prisoners out of there, but closing it can be done now.
Also I think Obama should support the Palestinians in their freedom from Israel and also condemn the targeting of innocent children and woman.
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The following is in response to copperiverkid's post below.
"Maybe he knows that it is not possible to change horses in the middle of a raging river."
I don't know copperiverkid, does this really describe our situation?????
As far as turning the supertanker on a dime, we all know that is not possible yet in our world. But we don't have to be a supertanker country either. Also, if we are structured like a supertanker, we have to do everything we can to turn as quick as we can from our course. So we are talking about Obama's acclaimed limits to this turn and if he is talking about the truth, or the truth of those who are telling him what their truth is. Then we are saying if our truth does not match the truth of those telling him what the truth is, then we have to get our truth to him for consideration.
This done through first deciding if we disagree, and also deciding what we mean to tell him.
Right now the people and their power seems to be a million scattered tug boats that all have a line on the supertanker and are ineffectual in and power for direction at all. But if like in finding Nemo we have a common cause and we all just keep tugging, just keep tugging, just keep tugging, etc, in a common direction, we will direct Obama and the super tanker. Collectively, a supertanker that cannot turn on a dime alone, might just be turned on a dime with a million plus tug boats, pulling on it meaningfully.
You can make the case that Barack Obama has hardly a progressive bone in his body. It might take a great deal of pressure to get what we need from our new President.
Remember that Obama supported the Cheney energy bill and the tort reform bill, watered down legislation requiring public disclosure of radiation leaks and voted for nuclear waste storage at Yucca Mountain twice. He voted for FISA and immunity for the telecoms. He may secretly support NAFTA.
Obama is to the right of the Supreme Court on abortion and the death penalty. He sides with Scalia and Thomas on gun control. He has issued alarmingly right-wing statements on Israel and other matters of foreign policy. He embraced and wants to expand Bush's faith-based initiatives. He wants more executions, more guns, fewer abortions. He has some of the worst neocons as advisors. He seems uninterested in prosecuting the Republican traitors who got us into this mess. He even kept on one of Bush II's cabinet members. (I'm just relieved he didn't ask the whole bunch of them to stay on.)
Facing that record, we will really need to pressure the guy. Fortunately, he looks to be a fast learner.
The big question now, as one author recently put it, is "whether President Obama will bring any meaningful change to the deceptive mindset of the Washington Establishment." So far, liberals and reformers (not necessarily the same) can't be too encouraged but let's give him a chance. Will he represent the "democratic wing of the democratic party" or will he be just another centrist Clintonite? (His appointments thus far would suggest so). To read a good piece on Obama's establishment picks and his apparent "positioning to the center" go to...
http://globalinvestmentwatch.com/2008/12/23/walking-the-tightrope/