To Live and Die in Gaza
On Sunday morning, I found out through a note my friend wrote on Facebook, that the Israeli Air Force was attacking my grandfather's neighborhood in Gaza. Safa, who lives near my grandfather in the densely-populated "Asqoola" in Gaza City, recounted the harrowing hours she spent terrorized by what she called "the constant, ominous, maddening, droning sound" of Apache helicopters flying above. "Outside my home, which is close to the two largest universities in Gaza, a missile fell on a large group of young men, university students," Safa wrote over the weekend. "They'd been warned not to stand in groups--it makes them an easy target--but they were waiting for buses to take them home. Seven were killed."
My family had been trying to speak with my grandfather since Saturday, after Israel began its onslaught on Gaza. But we haven't managed to reach him, perhaps not surprising since so many phone lines are down. "Hold one moment," is all we hear. A computerized directive from the phone company, one that sounds increasingly strident the more it's repeated. "Hold one moment." My mother hangs up in frustration, unable to ease her anxiety or clear her mind from worst-case scenario thoughts.
My grandfather moved to Gaza five years ago after living all over the Middle East for almost fifty years. As far as he was concerned, it was always a matter of time before he'd find his way back to his birthplace. He was born in Gaza City in 1933. Both of his parents died of cancer by his fifth birthday, so he was raised by four older sisters. The Gaza he knew during his childhood was transformed by the establishment of Israel in 1948. Following their forced expulsion from villages and cities across the country, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians streamed into the tiny coastal strip. Most of the refugees relied on assistance from the newly-created United Nations Relief and Works Agency to survive, and jobs were hard to come by. My grandfather was thus forced to move to other Arab countries so he could provide for his young family. By 1958, he had married my grandmother, a refugee from Jaffa whose father, a policeman, had been killed by Zionist paramilitaries ten years earlier. My grandfather took her and their one-year-old son to Saudi Arabia, where he taught Arabic to schoolchildren.
Leaving his beloved Gaza was painful for my grandfather, but he was left with no other choice. Because he was never allowed to become a citizen of any of the four Arab countries in which he worked and lived, my grandfather never felt at home. In his mind, they were transitory stops, temporary resting places on the way to Return. He would save as much as he could from his meager salary so he'd have enough money to take his family to Gaza for summer visits. After years of living modestly, he was able to buy a quarter of an acre of land on Gaza's coast near the Mediterranean Sea.
My grandfather was sitting in a cafe with a group of friends in the coastal city of Jeddah in Saudi Arabia when he heard that Israel captured Gaza in the June 1967 war. His face went pale and he fainted from the shock. The Israeli Army's occupation meant Gaza was lost. But in practical terms the news had another catastrophic effect: the Israeli military authorities decreed that any Palestinian who was not in Gaza before the war was not recognized as a resident of the strip.
My grandfather became a US citizen in 1999. By the time he passed his citizenship exam, his knowledge of American history and governance rivaled my own. Three of his children had moved here years earlier, and started their own families. Though my mother begged him to live here with her, my grandfather's dream of returning to Gaza never left him - and it was his American citizenship that helped him do just that.
When he finally moved back to Gaza, my grandfather changed. He stopped a lifelong habit of chain smoking and embraced the outdoors, faithfully tending the garden in his courtyard. He drank mint tea in his nephews' vineyard and ate from the fig trees he could only dream about years before. But he was also dismayed by the changes he observed. His hometown had become so overcrowded that trees were cut down to make room for more buildings. With more than 10,000 people per square mile, it has the highest population density in the world. (Considering Gaza's overcrowded environment, it is hard to fathom how anyone can argue that Israeli's aerial bombardment is focused exclusively on "Hamas targets.")
My grandfather, throughout his life, never belonged to any political factions, but like many Gazans he hoped that Hamas' election would bring back a semblance of law and order. Palestinian Authority officials had been dogged by allegations of corruption since they began administering Gaza and the West Bank under the 1993 Oslo accords. To many Gazans, the PA and its minions were no better than gangsters.
With Israel's draconian blockade of Gaza, imposed as punishment for the election of Hamas and backed by the US and Europe, my grandfather's life was transformed yet again. Medication to treat his diabetes was in short supply and because of a shortage of gas and electricity, his family was forced to use primitive kerosene burners for cooking. Bakeries now had to resort to baking bread with animal feed and sewage treatment plants were crippled as fuel ran out, forcing the water authority to dump millions of liters of waste into the Mediterranean Sea. Electricity was scarce, with homes receiving an average of only six hours a day. Unemployment shot up to 49 percent. Because of the border closures, my grandfather's nephews, who used to work in construction in Israel, now had no source of income. Israel's blockade caused a slow starvation of the entire population, as malnutrition rates spiked upwards of 75 percent among the strip's 1.5 million residents. As in most siege situations, children suffered the most from hunger and disease.
As missiles rain over Gaza, I can only imagine what my grandfather is thinking. Much of the territory's civilian infrastructure, including police stations, universities, mosques and homes, has been decimated. In the Jabalya refugee camp, five sisters, the eldest aged seventeen and the youngest only four, were killed on Monday as they slept in their beds when an Israeli air strike hit a mosque by their home. Their parents told reporters they assumed they were safe, since houses of worship typically are not military targets. The cemetery where the girls were buried was filled to capacity, so they were placed in three graves. A United Nations spokesperson said the killing is a "tragic illustration that this bombardment is exacting a terrible price on innocent civilians." The bereaved father expressed the sentiments of so many in Gaza in an interview with the Washington Post. "I don't have anything to do with any Palestinian faction. I have nothing to do with Hamas or anyone. I am just an ordinary person." A few days after the attack, I found out that the girls were relatives of our family friends in Florida.
I asked my mother why my grandfather did not leave Gaza while its gates were still open. Why he didn't leave before the siege, before life became unbearable, and before this latest bombardment. "Because that's where he feels he belongs," she said. "He was always homesick before. Gaza is where his parents were buried. It's where he wants to die."
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Show AllThe mid-east was divided up into countries after the war. Only 1% became Israel, the rest became Muslim countries. There was no Palestine before Israel was created, no Palestinians before Israelis. No country would help the Jews during the holocaust. The US refused to help or defend Jews and sent Jewish refugees back. Israel was created, by the US and Britain, possibly for the purpose of a country to defend the Jews, but in the middle of the Arab/Muslim world. Muslims and Jews, and Christians, lived throughout the mid-east. When Israel was created, all its neighbors, Muslim countries all, attacked Israel. Israel won that war. Attacked again, they won again. If they had not been attacked they would still be as small as when Israel began. Hamas and Hezbollah keep it up. BTW,Christian Arabs are being forced out of West Bank and Iraq. Have you read Doonesbury? Hamas and Hezbollah have called for the elimination of Israel and the Jews. Is not that a call for genocide? Please look at this video.
http://fun.mivzakon.co.il/flash/video/2664/26
I like the story of Little Red Riding Hood better than this Fairy Tale that was posted.
winningticket you are right about blutodog. He typifies what Israelis and Zionists are like. They have us to give them the best weapons on earth and they act tough. I have met very few that could even beat up a weakling. And blutodog is correct Israel does take it in the ass. I pray every night that Yahwey ( the Cannabal God) will visit seven plagues on all zionists.
If blutodog and Goose4 would actually take a trip to Gaza and live there for at least a week, they wouldn't be so fucking deluded like they are on this site.
As for the rest of us, we need to take on our pols from the local and state level and put the corporate, religious, and military elites on the defensive on all levels of government. Let's get to work on electing better pols in our local and state races and carry them all the way to the national level so that we can TEAR DOWN THE TYRANNICAL FORTRESS in Washington.
A roof could fall on Blutodog and Goosestep and they still would cling to their deluded fantasies.
DEATH TO HAMAS !! LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!
Are you a George Bush/Sarah Palin/John McCain/Joe Lieberman lover? Just curious.
Click this You-Tube for a good visual juxtaposition and song: "Is It For Freedom? Mourning the Innocent Lives Lost in Gaza":
http://www.mnprogressiveproject.com/diary/2404/is-it-for-freedom-mourning-the-innocent-lives-lost-in-g...
Those who can be made to believe absurdities can be made to commit atrocities. Voltaire
Silly people. All this talk about morality, politics, nation states, caring and honest leaders. Follow the money. Follow the money. Follow the money. Concentration of money never comes from honest hard work. Never. War is never about a cause, it is about money. Here we sit on CD acting like we know something. Silly people.
Ok, maybe you're right. We got the Internet and yet the high monied interests and warmongers are winning even more than they did before the Internet became mainstream. However, without the Internet, folks like myself wouldn't have anything to watch or listen to as an independent news source. We're all just going to figure out how to take on the monied interests alright. What's your plan?
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
I am now a Zionist hunter. Just like they hunted the nazis.
Zionist Hunter? HA, HA , HA now I have heard everything. How pethetic pal, get a life! Zionist is one of those subjective terms, ask ten different people and you will get ten different answers, no standard on the term.
Come around here asshole and you'll be a dead Zionist hunter. I'm not someone to fuck with!
It's easy to be big, tough, and bad on the internet. I'll take you up on your offer. Do your worst!
Go for it! :-)
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The barbarian zionists have no end to their greed:
10 Agorot, an israeli coin showing the map of Greater Israel, which includes Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia
http://tinyurl.com/99q6l9
BOYCOTT THE CRIMINAL ENTITY
http://www.palestinianmothers.com/forum/topics/boycott-the-criminal-enti...
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Look well at what Gazans are suffering, because we in the United States will soon suffer the same at the hands of our Zionist-occupied government. The Gaza concentration camp is the picture of the future. The engineered economic collapse is transforming the entire world into one enormous concentration camp, where those who dare to oppose the authorities in any way will be starved, bombed and murdered into submission exactly as is happening to the Gazans today. George Orwell (Eric Blair) warned the world in 1948 about what was coming. Now it is upon us, yet the world, for the most part, appears not to recognize it.
Let's face it, Israelis are religiously insane. It's useless to expect them to act rationally or fairly or with compassion.
In the main, their minds are filled with theo-babble, one from a book that's thousands of years old. They are rooted way back in time when superstition reigned. They think they are a special race, an elite group, one favoured by god.
They believe that slaughtering the Palestinians is what they're supposed to do in their quest to create a Greater Israel, one for Jews only. They don't even think that Palestinians are humans.
Israelis are dinosaurs. They don't belong in this world!
www.dangerouscreation.com
A very small majority is religiously insane. Some are just plain capitalist and need the land and especially the water to continue to create wealth, and most just want to be safe just like the Americans who voted Bush in for a second term and were ready to roll over and give up their constitutional rights and the heart and soul of this country by allowing torture.
If you'd like to write to Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who is, according to CNN, on his way to Israel, to support the "jewish state" in its onslaught of civilians, use his own Bloomberg LLP address, that he personally reads, and let him know what you think about appropriateness of his trip:
bloomberg@bloomberg.net
I notice while listening to the news, they always mention the firing of the missiles into Israel which prompted this attack but they never mention the seige. I know the Israelis are not stupid enough to think a military solution will work, they are fully aware it will only create more hatred and terroism which is exactly what they want. They are creating monsters to justify their continuing greedy land grab.
And, Israel actually broke the cease-fire first, killing 6 people BEFORE the missile attacks were resumed.
Rather than all these messages of resistance and secession. Maybe we ought to offer the advice of STOP FIRING MISSLES.
Simple. Peace first, justice later.
No Peace, No Justice!
You do know where all those people living in Gaza are from, right? Over 80% of the families of the people currently living in Gaza are historically from what is now called Israel. They were herded into Gaza to enable the creation of Israel. Gaza is now not only the most densely populated stretch of earth on Earth - it is also the densest concentration of refugees.
What do you dare say to the Gazans about justice, or peace, or which should come first?
No justice, no peace, and that is not some blustering threat, that is simply a historical truth.
Maybe we ought to offer the advice of STOP DISPOSSESSING PEOPLE OF THEIR LAND.
"Over 80% of the families of the people currently living in Gaza are historically from what is now called Israel."
Doesn't matter. This is not about the Nakbah, this is about firing rockets. No rockets, then no war. Simple.
Have a nice day Gaza! :-)
"This is not about the Nakbah, this is about firing rockets. No rockets, then no war. Simple."
There were no rockets being fired even after and yet they're still invading. In fact, the zionist NAZIs who you blindly support even admitted that they're not after Hamas but after Palestinians simply because they hate them. And I see you blindly support corrupt leaders not only in the US but in neighboring Arab dictatorships such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan. Even the Jews in Israel are not as shitheaded as you are. They're just as sick and tired of the zionist NAZIs running and ruining Israel as are the Palestinians sick and tired of Hamas and the corrupt dictators in the neighboring Arab nations I mentioned. When you're done being another AIPAC spokesman, you might start getting outraged when you find out that the zionists and Hamas are actually supporting each other against the Jews and Palestinians.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
At what point, US citizens, do we realize our government DOES NOT represent us, and WITHDRAW our support and begin resistance to what our government does in our name? (As proposed by Thoreau in his pamphlet "On Civil Disobedience" about his refusal to pay taxes for the US war against Mexico, briefly jailed for his withdrawal of support.)
Withdraw support: For example:
Stop paying taxes;
Stop purchasing ANYTHING that we do not actually NEED;
Stop voting for ANYONE who does not speak plainly about these matters.
Begin resistance: For example:
Talk to our neighbors, friends, co-workers, and families;
Work with people we know to organize:
Find local places where our REPRESENTATIVES carry out their work, and blockade their workplaces;
Find local places where our military ships weapons out of the country, and blockade these transshipment points;
Find local places where corporations manufacture or administer the manufacture of arms, and blockade these workplaces;
All the while, produce our own media to reach out to other citizens with our reasons and our goals, in our own terms.
OK, if you do NOT think our country and our world are at the point of demanding principled resistance by citizens who put their own lives on the line - what do you propose to do?
You should get your counties, cities, and states to do what Lakota did not too long ago. SECEDE SECEDE SECEDE !!
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/21/5946
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Question for Thomas More. What do you make of the EU and the corrupt Arab dictators in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt who are also enabling the zionists in Israel to crush the innocent Palestinians and ironically protect Hammas so that Israel can keep using Hammas as an excuse to crush more innocent Palestinians?
P.S.: On the issue of Hamas being headquartered in Saudi Arabia, here's what I'm referring to:
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2378
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Ah, I see what you are saying, but I believe that referred to "a" headquarter in Saudi Arabia. Hamas's leadership is headquartered in Damascus in Syria. I don't knowe enough about the EU contingent to make a comment. But Egypt and Jordan are not going to confront Israel again. And they certainly don't want to risk losing our aid.
If I were going top blame anyone right now it would be our own government for not stepping in. But Bush and Sleeza really have no credibility in the middle east. Aside from that...would you trust Bush and Cheney? I sure wouldn't.
There are so many dirty hands in this deal I don't know where to start. The only real innocents in this are the Palestinians. They have been used and abused on every side.
I don't believe for one moment that the Israeli people have any wish to slaughter the Palestinians. If anything most eveidence points to the opposite.
The one thing I'm sure of is, the Israeli need to turn around and go home.
I was stupid enough to vote for Bush in 2000 but voted Kerry in 2004 as soon as I got fed up being a conservative and seeing no happiness from it. I proudly voted for Obama in 2008 even though the state still went Mccain although by much smaller margins just like your state from 60-40 to 55-45.
I don't see how the Jews in Israel can live in peace or even in mental security as they watch the horror from the zionists bulldozing Gaza.
As for Egypt and Jordan receiving our aid, I don't see any evidence of that aid going to the actual citizens of those two nations who actually need it but instead to the dictators who in return churn it around and allow Hamas, Pakistani ISI, AL Quaida, etc ... to misuse it. Maybe I'm misunderstanding these so-called aid packages.
Regardless of where Hamas's leadership is at, that organization is spreading like a cancer and Israel purposely seems to be letting it get away with it to misuse as an excuse to crush more innocent Palestinians just like the way the US government misused the idea of Indian reservations and allowed false alarms to be misused as excuses to sacrifice more innocent Indians on the already wretched reservations. Sorry I'm sounding angry.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
The Glue That Holds Chaos Together
Your Grandfather is a brave man. If death should come to him, I hope that it is quick.
Ok, I don't support the way the zionists running Israel are mistreating the Palestinians whose land Gaza belongs to. However, let's get one thing straight. Complain all you want about Israel but until you people face the fact that it is not only the US but also Europe and the corrupt dictators in neighboring Arab nations such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan who are conspiring with the Israeli zionists to obliterate the Palestinians, you all will be entitled to more sobbing stories of Palestinian tragedies. So go right ahead. Just keep getting angry at Israel and US and forget about the rest of the 800 lb gorilla (EU and the dictatorships in the neighboring Arab nations) that is equally responsible. The Far Right and the Far Left both support the Sharia Laws of injustice against the poor innocent Arab civilians including the Palestinians. And then you all wonder why they hate the US, Europe, and in general the West as a whole. Even Thomas More was wise enough to bring up the issue of Egypt's blockading hypocrisy. Sorry to piss off some people but when bad Arab dictators backstab their own people and aid the enemy who wouldn't be powerful otherwise, you have one of two options. The first option is keep sobbing at more Palestinian tragedies and get angry at Israel alone and ignore its enablers. The second option is to take on not only Israel and the US but also the rest of its enablers such as the EU and the Arab nations I mentioned. When you people can boycott Israeli goods, you can do just the same on goods made in Europe, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
I don't vote in Saudi Arabia. I don't pay taxes in Jordan. I don't work or attend school in Egypt or Syria. I do all those things in the United States and it is here that I feel I have both the right and responsibility to demand that my government do the right thing - legally and morally.
It is ISRAEL that is conducting an illegal war and a siege. It is ISRAEL that is causing a humanitarian crisis beyond all reason. Those things are made possible with the acquiesence of MY government and the missiles being fired from helicopters and the F-16's roariing over head are all made in the U.S.A. and bought and paid for with American tax dollars either directly or indirectly.
Terrence Mitchell: Get over your lame, silly ass argument that we somehow have a responsibility to point fingers at OTHER countries for doing or not doing something. What about Mongolia? Shouldn't the be involved? Give me strength.
I demand from MY government that it stop supporting the illegal activities of the Israelis. I demand that MY government instruct its representative on the UN Security council to stop being complicit in the murder of hundreds of innocent civilians.
It's US Mr. Mitchell. It's Israel and her co-conspirator America the world will find guilty at the next Nuremburg trials - not the Jordanians, or the Saudis or the Syrians. And I am not responsible for the Arab government. I am responsible for my own.
Thanks for showing your lack of broad understanding and your tendency to keep beating around the bush despite the fact that Israel doesn't give a flying fuck because it has plenty of allies in addition to the US, something India and Turkey lack. And I thought I didn't know enough. Israel is conducting Israel wars only because the US, EU, Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia are collectively allowing Israel to do so. The US alone doesn't possess some mythical superpower. It takes cooperation for rogue regimes to thrive. As long as you keep ignoring the rest of the culprits conspiring with Israel in addition to the US, you will continue to bear responsibility. Of course the US and Israil are guilty as sin but so too are Europe, Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia for their silent complicity from bribe taking to their further harsh policies on Palestinians. The UN is corrupt as it is. They have the ability to work around the US but it's too lazy and then blames the US for somehow blocking their resolutions when other countries cooperate to do the same. If India had the same kind of endorsements as Israel, Pakistan would have been Gaza by now as if the people in Pakistan aren't suffering enough already. If the US and EU would do to Israel what they do to India, Israel would be doing more "peace talks" instead of bulldozing.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Most of the infrastructure in Palestine was built with EU money. Which is why Europeans were furious when during the second intifada Israel pointedly destroyed a lot of what they had built there and did tell the Israelis. It is Europeans who have been training Palestinian policemen, built Palestinian schools etc. It is Europeans who have tried to enable imports from Palestinian lands, includling the Gaza strip, although Israel has always tried to undermine it.
Israeli governments don't like the EU particularly, since they hear a lot of criticism from Europe all the time. They much rather talk to Americans.
Whenever Israeli politicians turn up in Europe, they have to listen to a hell of a lot - I wish they'd have to listen to just a fraction of that when in the US!!
So you are simply completely, utterly uniformed.
So if the EU actually built the infrastructure for the Palestinians, why haven't they bothered sending in troops to counter the ones in Israel? What you're telling me is that the EU built the infrastructure for the Palestinians but I don't excuse them for just sitting there and letting the zionists in Israel screw the Palestinians especially since it's their own aid and help of the past that is being rendered useless to waste. Either the EU should get up and kick butt or don't bother complaining about the US if they cannot step in and fight back. If it were not for the US stepping in correctly during WWII unlike today's US stepping in for zionists running Israel, Europe would be speaking German and wearing lederhosen.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Because Europeans are not Americans, they are NOT stepping in. We are not in the business of "kicking butt" or all the other idiocies Americans engage in. Of course you would mention WWII - just about every other action the US have engaged in since then has ended in a disaster.
We have LEARNED from our history in Europe. Americans still have to learn. So we don't engage in bravado, the military isn't revered any more, and we believe in diplomacy.
Americans keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
Your are BTW forgetting that without the USSR's efforts, Europe would indeed be speaking German. Not that I'd mind that aspect, it is my mother tongue and I love it. I would have minded the Nazis, though.
But the Americans were only complementing the efforts of the Russians. Learn history and don't just repeat your propaganda. I owe nothing to Americans. My town for example was liberated by the Russians.
"We have LEARNED from our history in Europe. Americans still have to learn."
Oh really ??? I guess you learned from WWII to just sit there and wait for the US to bail you out which it did or you'd be speaking German and wearing lederhosen. The USSR was helpful alright but they didn't even try until the US came first.
" So we don't engage in bravado, the military isn't revered any more, and we believe in diplomacy."
Fine, but short of war, how do you hold terrorists accountable? War is too much and diplomacy is a loser's idea. There's got to be an in between.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
That's true, but Terrance, we can't focus on what Europe does, and I'm sure they're in it up to their necks.
Most on this board are US citizens and the US is _our_ back yard. If we merely point the finger at others we will have absolutely no credibility - none! As low as the US has sunk these last 8 to 20 years, we still have some cachè, and we need to use it wisely. It is up to the citizens of this country to voice our opinions to OUR nation's lackeys...er, leaders and let Europe's citizens do likewise (and they seem to do it better).
Finally, I agree completely with your idea on boycotting offending nations. Of course, this makes it rather difficult to buy anything 'cause just about all nations are screwing someone. However, your point is well taken. Our ultimate power to put offending nations (and corporations) on notice is via the boycott. Money makes the world go 'round - the lack of it makes it stop.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
I'm not saying that the US isn't at fault. However, just blaming ourselves isn't going to solve anything either as the past 8 years have shown. As to the issue of finding it harder to buy anything, well the recession is already here and this country has lost its own manufacturing competence. I know it's tough but this will be great for the long run both for us and those citizens of those nations. When it comes to "free trade", the citizens of all trading partners are rendered losers while the elites get to cheat and rig the system. All I'm pushing for is no more war and no more "free trade" and even when my misreps in House and Senate keep ignoring and even writing rejection replies, I and others who are against these sins will keep the pressure on and will even try to spread the word on the local and even state level newspaper editorials.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Agreed - we're not alone in this. However, I'm simply stating my belief that one needs to address one's own mess before pointing at others'. Makes for more street cred.
Agreed also re withholding support from offending parties and your actions to spread the word. I do this as well.
Kudos to you!
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Brave Palestinians returning home despite the horror created in their stolen homeland Palestine, by terrorist of zion
http://www.palestinianmothers.com/video/palestinians-brave-israeli
I want to cry but the tears won't come. May Israel get the collective karma that's due them.
Israel Lobby Paper:
http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/rwp06-011
"contend that the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy is its intimate relationship with Israel. The authors argue that although often justified as reflecting shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives"
I never thought that was in question by anyone.
I really don't see that the Israeli lobby has to do that much. No matter who is President or what is happening, the US will not abandon Israel for obvious reasons. Period. Anyone who thinks we might is in La La land.
But I'll bet Washington is grinding their teeth right now because the Israeli are off the leash again.
Wake up: The US pays them to go off the leash.
Especially when they have a particularly mean-spirited murder of their own up their sleeves.
Like CONTINUING to bomb the shit out of Pakistan--another country with whom you are not at war.
Actually Serena Pakistan's ISI backs the Taliban and funds them and sends them across the border to kill American troops and Afghans so that statement is incorrect. We are at war with them its just undeclared. Pakistan meddles in Afghan politics the way the Syrians meddle in Lebanese politics.
I agree with Walt and Mersheimer. US Policy would be vastly different without AIPAC and the overall lobby's influence. Stop AIPAC stop the war.
Actually Serena Pakistan's ISI backs the Taliban and funds them and sends them across the border to kill American troops and Afghans so that statement is incorrect. We are at war with them its just undeclared. Pakistan meddles in Afghan politics the way the Syrians meddle in Lebanese politics.
I agree with Walt and Mersheimer. US Policy would be vastly different without AIPAC and the overall lobby's influence. Stop AIPAC stop the war.
Actually Serena Pakistan's ISI backs the Taliban and funds them and sends them across the border to kill American troops and Afghans so that statement is incorrect. We are at war with them its just undeclared. Pakistan meddles in Afghan politics the way the Syrians meddle in Lebanese politics.
I agree with Walt and Mersheimer. US Policy would be vastly different without AIPAC and the overall lobby's influence. Stop AIPAC stop the war.
You have clue zero about Pakistan funding anybody.
You couldn't even find it on a map!
Thanks!
The US certainly isn't happy about this at all. You can be sure we aren't involved in this. We'd rather they both go back to a cease fire.
Perhaps Hillary can work out a deal with Syria to stop this after they take office.
I seriously doubt Hillary will be nice to Syria. She didn't even back down from her vote on the Iraq war until she knew she was losing the primary. Get ready for chump change.
Another voice from the land of Denial.
You obviously have no clue about the Middle East--anymore than you do about Latin America.
I think it's tilme for you to go back to school.
The US is deliriously happy about this. It's their money (YOUR tax dollars) that's paying for it.
Syria?
"Syria?"
Syria where Hamas's leadership is headquartered. Syria which is supporting them, with help and funding from Iran and Saudi Arabia. Weren't you aware of that?
Uh, TM, I have many Syrian friends (mostly former students and their families) and have spent enough time in Syria to know something about the dynamic there.
You don't know squat.
I am also supporting Hamas.
Or weren't you aware of that?
I often wonder when you are going to join the rest of the world in reality. You go on such flights of fancy.
When exactly was the last time you were in Venezuela?
Exactly when I was there is none of your business, is it?
I spend 2 to 3 months there each year. Was last there in October. Of this year.
The rest of the world, in case you haven't noticed, TM, is living in a sewer. You just want me to suffer with you, but I am not a masochist.
War is between two equal sides.
Israel has an occupation.
Unless you are saying Israel is so weak that it cant handle people it has kept as prisoners who only have homemade rockets compared to what Israel has, maybe it is a fair match up after all.
Look at how Israel got its ass handed to it by a bunch of guys in a ditch in 06.
It said it was going to get its soldiers back, then stop the rockets, then destroy Hezbollah.
failed at all three--US taxpayers are not getting much for their $3 billion investment.
"homemade rockets" Lets be correct here. These are not "homemade rockets" they are Iranian/Chinese manufactured for the most part. Not that it really makes much difference. Dead is dead.
You admire Hezbollah? That doesn't fit your prior posts. You have never supported terroists. I'm surprised.
"These are not "homemade rockets" they are Iranian/Chinese manufactured for the most part."
Can you cite a source to support your statement?
-- ekaton aka d.k.shaw
I see that YOU are still supporting terrorists.
The TERROR of TERRORIST zionist entity can be seen here
http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-the-story
Nahida,
I oppose what Israel is doing now.
Having said that, I will repeat that I believe it is up to those closest to the situation to do what they can. I am an American Jew, so I do what I can to press the case for a cease to Israeli aggression and apartheid techniques.
Having said this, I wonder what you do to press those on your side to end the violence. As a mother, I imagine you must want peace. What can we do on our own sides to help this happen?
I don't believe that everything is only the fault of one side. I never will.
Salaam.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
No reply. I hope Nahida is okay.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Happy New Year Serena! Nope I don't support Hamas orHezbolla terroist's. How in the workld did you get that idea? I don't support Isreael in this either.
My only support is for the innocents in this, the Palestinians caught between all these conflicting forces.
You support US terrorism and Israeli terrorism.
That might be why I got the idea that you did.
Then I'd suggest you get some new glasses. You aren't reading things properly.
My friend Thomas,
It has been a little while since I had the opportunity to just sit down a read the articles and the many comments to the articles posted here at CD. Now that I have found the time to do just that what do I find? Serena throwing rocks at you once again. LOL
By the way Thomas good comments. (Feet always firmly on the ground. One step at a time)
Happy New Year Thomas
Happy New Year to you!
Some of us were destineed to be targets.
And you love it: It's the only attention you get.
I happen to be with you, Thomas More. They're both wrong.
Of course, it's easy to say from thousands of miles away while in the safety of my cocoon. Were I in Gaza now, I'd be igniting the rockets myself. Such is self-defense.
It is up to the neutral states to decry what is going on. Unfortunately, the US is far from neutral. We are Israeli serfs.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Happy New Year from Stolen Palestine
http://palestinian.ning.com/video/a-new-year-cry-out-for-gaza
blutodog, your something I step in and have to scrape off my shoe
to one and all; it is now reported that israel has begun their ground assault on GULAG GAZA. there can be no more denial. that our government the u.s.a. is bought and paid for by the zionists.
WAR is hell. Hamas is Murder Incarnate.
So is Israel.
Birds of a feather...
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Israel=Murder Incorporated
Thank you for your story. Please know that some of us wish we could do more but are uncertain what to do. Our government is against us. Our media is hateful and sick. We are heartbroken and I for one wish I could be there to help.