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Corruption Destroys Afghanistan
Just when you've finally gotten your mind around the enormous $700 billion financial bailout -- even if none of us are really sure where all that money's going -- there comes an even greater, breathtaking price tag.
The amount is $904 billion -- that's how much we've spent on American military operations, including Iraq and Afghanistan, since the 9/11 attacks; 50 percent more than what was spent in Vietnam, reports the nonpartisan Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment. Their study does not include the inestimable toll in human life.
Of that money, nearly 200 billion has gone to Afghanistan, where 31,000 American troops are nearly 60 percent of the NATO peacekeeping force. When he becomes President, as promised during his campaign, Barack Obama will oversee the deployment of at least another 20,000 troops there.
This has been the deadliest year for American forces in Afghanistan since the war began. Our military faces a resurgent Taliban and al-Qaeda, better trained, better armed, supported from sanctuaries in Pakistan. But in an op-ed piece in last Sunday's Washington Post, Sarah Chayes -- the former National Public Radio reporter who has lived in Kandahar province since shortly after 9/11 -- argued that America's and Afghanistan's biggest problem comes from within -- our continuing support of a corrupt and abusive Afghan government that's driving its people back into the arms of the fundamentalists.
Chayes, who organized a co-op of Afghan men and women making skin care products from herbs and botanicals as an alternative to the opium poppy trade, wrote, "I hear from Westerners that corruption is intrinsic to Afghan culture, that we should not hold Afghans up to our standards. I hear that Afghanistan is a tribal place, that it has never been, and can't be, governed. But that's not what I hear from Afghans."
Chayes followed up that article with an interview conducted by my colleague Bill Moyers on the latest edition of Bill Moyers Journal on PBS. She told him that the United States and its NATO allies have had to convince themselves and public opinion in each of their countries that "this is a democratically elected representative government [in] Afghanistan, in order to justify the sacrifices in money and troops. But the Afghans see it differently."
What they see instead, she said, is a restoration to power under President Hamid Karzai of the gunslinging, crooked warlords who were repudiated when the Taliban first started taking over vast parts of the country a few years after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989.
The "appalling behavior" of officials in the current government, including rampant bribery, extortion and violence, is a serious factor in the Taliban resurgence -- it's estimated that they now have a "permanent presence" in 72 percent of the country, according to one think tank, the International Council on Security and Development.
Chayes said, "There are people who don't like the Taliban but may kind of knuckle under to them because, on the one hand, the government isn't doing anything better for them. And the Taliban are going to kill them if they don't visibly divide themselves away from the government."
An Afghan woman in her cooperative compared it to "a man trying to stand on two watermelons. The Taliban shake us down at night, and the government shakes us down in the daytime."
The Taliban are aided and abetted by Pakistan, Chayes continued: "It has been obvious to me that the Pakistani military intelligence agency [ISI] has been basically creating, orchestrating this so-called Taliban resurgence since the end of 2001. So why are we paying Pakistan $1 billion a year?
"...We need to realign our policy... What you have in Pakistan is a fledgling civilian government that's kind of fighting for its life. And it's not in a position to be able to challenge this military intelligence agency very powerfully. We need to get with that government and figure out and scheme with it -- how do we rein in this state within the state that is the military intelligence agency, which has been manipulating and instrumentalizing religious extremism for the past 20, 30 years... in a very myopic way, to forward its regional agenda both in Kashmir and in Afghanistan?"
Additional American troops are important now, Chayes said, and suggested that NATO allies who face opposition at home to sending additional combat forces could instead send a corps of experienced officials -- from retired mayors to agriculture experts -- who could rigorously mentor Afghan public officials and potentially reform their ways. Reconstructing infrastructure is important, she said, "But you don't get infrastructure if you're passing it through corrupt channels."
So if nothing changes, Bill Moyers asked, should American men and women continue to give their lives in support of a government overrun by Afghanistan's criminal class? Chayes rephrased the question: "If we are not willing to even begin to challenge President Karzai... then why are we sending people to die?"
During his tour of Iraq and Afghanistan this past week, President Bush told Karzai that he could count on us no matter who's in the White House: "It's in our interest that Afghanistan's democracy flourish."
To which Sarah Chayes' friends in Kandahar would reply, "What democracy?"




21 Comments so far
Show AllThe United States these days is very much like Afghanistan. The USA government is totally, thoroughly corrupt and fundamentally has no authority since the real rulers of this country belong to the so-called "financial services industry". Our Taliban are the Bible Thumpers and their allies - ignnorance, superstition, fear and stupidity. Our heroin is television and consumption. Our terrorism is a loathing for honesty. We whistle through the graveyard and call it Victory.
A real bull's eye. The good old USA didn't quite measure up to Reagan's delusion of a shining city on a hill.
Leader of the free world? With 1% of our population in prison for getting stoned?
We could have been so much. So little we are. There is something wrong with anybody in this country who wants to be cold sober.
Wow agreed Mordechai.
The amount is $904 billion -- that's how much we've spent on American military operations, including Iraq and Afghanistan
And the Afghans and Iraqis haven't seen a penny but our military contractors sure have made a killing.
"Additional American troops are important now"
This phase is crucial. If we abandon Afghanistan now, what would our troops have sacrificed their lives for? Do we really want the Taliban setting up training camps from which they could go on hitting America? Are we to abandon the women and children of Afghanistan to suffer under the brutal governance of the Taliban? Do we want to see women being burned alive for not following Islamic law? No, unfortunately, if we care about the safety of America, if we care about human rights and the people of Afghanistan, we have no choice but to win this fight.
BTW, to put things in perspective, the amount spent on the war on terror over nearly the past decade is chump change compared to the amounts being spent on bailouts and multi-trillion loan guarantees in the past year.
"If we abandon Afghanistan now, what would our troops have sacrificed their lives for?"
Your fallacy: appeal to tradition.
"Do we really want the Taliban setting up training camps from which they could go on hitting America?"
Your fallacy:
False dichotomy.
"Are we to abandon the women and children of Afghanistan to suffer under the brutal governance of the Taliban?"
Your fallacy: Non sequitur.
"Do we want to see women being burned alive for not following Islamic law?"
Your fallacy: Non sequitur.
In other words, your arguments are bogus.
You really should have studied in school. Your in good company though; most American think about as well as you.
Double your pleasure-double your gain.........It's the pipeline people! It is the pipeline......Caspian Sea Oil flows through the Pipeline and our 750 military bases neeeeeeddddd that OIL........
The Saudi Government and the United States Government put well over 6 BILLION DOLLARS to fund that wonderful enemy, The Islamic Militant Force, 100,000 strong and the U.S. kept that force going through the 90's....We kept that going with the CIA and the ISI working together, Ask General Hamid Gul. The Pakistanis are now, along with the Taliban, becoming our next Patsy. Enough with the lies and enough with "My Friend is my enemy. My enemy is my friend."
Today, we are hearing that the forces in Afghanistan will be doubled and after that another "Surge" I am sure. The Taliban are bad people, but they are not a threat to the United States......The number of Al Qaeda was estimated at 25,000 prior to 2001...Over 1.2 million Iraqis are now dead and no one has a clue how many Afghans have been killed.....Here's a surprise, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 nor did Iraq for that matter......The United States Government as well as Bin Laden Group built those caves for Osama Bin Laden and the U.S. Government trained Islamics there and in Pakistan.....Get the story right, please.
That figure of 900 Billion Dollars is so far off, it makes me wonder,how stupid are we.
In 2002, Donald Rumsfeld said at a press conference, "The Department of Defense can not account for 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS worth of expenditures and then the following year GAO claimed that the Department of Defense could not account for another 1 TRILLION DOLLARS of expenditures.....Does anyone remember the soldiers finding 40 million dollars still in U.S.Treasury wrap on palettes by the side of an Iraqi Road? Bremer and The Department of Defense were giving out thousands to any individual that would turn in their neighbor as a terrorist.
Take the above 3.3 TRILLION DOLLARS and add Joseph Stiglitz's 3 TRILLION DOLLAR War and you have a more accurate picture of a 6 TRILLION DOLLAR SCAM. With leaders who could care less how many lives are lost, when will we get the truth?
There we go... a bit or reality.
All people have to do to understand our presence in Afghanistan is take 2 maps, the second one being made of see-through paper and with the proposed pipeline marked on it. Put that over a normal map of Afghanistan that indicates the location of US bases and O!M!G!...The location of the bases and the pipeline coincide! Isn't that a happy coincident?
The Taliban are nasty, but they represented a real improvement when they took control, because what followed the defeat of the Soviets was pure anarchy. When there is no central authority with laws, police, courts etc., criminals rule the roost.
Warlords were in charge and so rampant criminality was the order of the day and women were raped left, right, and center. As awful as are the Taliban, they introduced law and order--rough, sexist, cruel...but law and order.
The US wants to control the territory because no pipeline can be built without the territory secured, so we invaded. We beat the Taliban by using the warlords on the ground and our airforce. So once "we won", of course we established a supposedly democratic gov't made up of warlords, with a former mid-level executive for a US oil company as President--Karzai. Of course the gov't is perfectly corrupt!! Duh! It's run by crooks!!!
The US occupies Afghanistan and the more soldiers we have there, the worse it is. Locals always perfectly hate occupiers. Every person we kill results in several new, very dedicated ennemies. The more we kill, the more ennemies we create. The math does not add up, but the logic is sooooooo straight-forward.
Let's hope Obama was saber-rattling over Afghanistan for electoral purposes and will change his mind "once he's fully briefed on the situation". We simply need to get out. But...it's not as easy as just folding the tents and driving out. We've created real problems and we owe it to Aghans to help them straighten out the situation, but not with an occupying force.
Why don't we get the fuck out of Afghanistan? We've done enough harm already, for what? War profiteers, oilmen and a resurgent Taliban.
Someone tell me how a corrupt government in Washington can reform a corrupt government in Afghanistan? Can you answer this question Mr. Obama?
That is right.... Obama will have to change the failed quest of empire and focus on our own built in corruption at home if any real change is to happen and we will have to insist as long as we are still kickin.
It will be taking "steps towards democracy."
I watched the Sarah Chayes interview by Bill Moyers and, as courageous, charismatic and downright sexy as she is, her formula for the U.S. "forcing" President Karzai away from his corruption, with additional U.S. forces to do the job, was decidedly off-putting for me, as I felt it was for Moyers. Moyers didn't quite have the forthrightness or presence of mind to make the point of posters here that a corrupt U.S. government (and a brutal and insensitive U.S. military--which is what militaries are by nature) couldn't possibly do the job of un-corrupting Afghanistan (and Pakistan). She apparently had a swig of the Obama kool-aid in its vacuous promise of "hope" to people "starving for democracy" (the latter term from a recurring 700 club statement about the people of Iran). If Chayes (or the "Three Cups of Tea" approach to militancy-fighting) is to become the poster woman for the "soft power" of democracy-promotion in the Obama administration, I'm a little concerned. Is the "Obama doctrine" to become the "doctrine" of George Soros, Madeleine Albright, John McCain and the National Endowment for Democracy?
some good posts (except the 'we can't abandon them' nonsense), but one thing to think about among the many mind-blowing realities in afghanistan:
80-90% of world heroin (opium) is coming out of afghanistan. how do you think that opium is getting out of the country? mule trains to pakistan?
nope. it's being flown out or driven out by u.s. military transport. (don't think so? it happened in vietnam....)
why would the military/cia allow/encourage this to happen?
there's boocoo unaccountable, untraceable $$ in drugs, and the excuse for 'the drug war' (the original war on terror).
Most people don't know that according to French government documents the battle of Dienbienphu (Viet Nam vs. France) was for control of the Laotian opium crop. Don't believe it? Look at a map. Dienbienphu is in a very remote location. It was like the battle for control of the US being fought in Fargo, ND.
Any comment on the legality of the war against Afghanistan? We know it is barbaric.
"Accept a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs" is how I remember it starting.
I and most Canadians had no desire to participate in the action against Afghanistan, I and most Canadians believe the Canadian military presence there should be brought home now.
Canada has a quisling government. We are trying to do something about it.
I want Canada to prosecute the war criminals of the Bush administration should they ever arrive on the Canadian side of the border.
I would prefer that the USA dealt with it's war criminals itself and within the framework of the Nuremburg trials and with the legal jurisprudence expertise and enthusiasm for justice that the USA displayed at the time of those trials.
Will it be the rule of law or that of the crooks? Time to decide and get active folks.
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Yes I agree the Corruption of the USA destroyed Afghanistan, this is the second time actually. Or is it the third?
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
The "selection" of Hamid Karzai was the first of many missteps in a land where the wrong move is deadly. The empowerment of warlords who's only true allegiance is their own aggrandizement & a resurgent Taliban (who, make no mistake, are as regressive a force for the Muslim world as fundamentalist Christians in the West, among other horrors) has been the sorry result. It is well past time that the rest of the world accept what the inhabitants of Afghanistan have long known: the idea of united Afghanistan is simply ludicrous. Like Iraq, Yugoslavia, and almost any other fractious multi-ethnic country who's borders were drawn by outside powers, their continued existence is merely an invitation for misery. As I have written prior, the best that the West can do now is make sure that the non-Pashtun peoples of Afghanistan have the means to defend themselves from a repeat of the Taliban's conquest of Afghanistan, with all it's attendant war crimes.
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Thank you Nate you sum up the situation well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/asia/05afghan.html?_r=1&ref=asia
Corruption with a capitol K.
herbert r
that news conference where rumsfeld announced that he could not find where 2.3 trillion dollars had gone was held at the pentagon September 10, 2001. the day before 9/11.