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It is the nature of our fortnightly meetings here that I must sometimes anticipate what will be even as I work toward our mutual understanding of what is (this newspaper venue being obviously and inherently ephemeral), using the tools I have accumulated through experiences and intentions that were not adequate even when new. You may read this once before throwing it away; many purchasers of the paper will not grant me even that. I write Monday or Tuesday, anticipating where we may find ourselves on Thursday's publication date. Today I guess what may obtain as I take up this task next, two weeks hence.
Unless he is assassinated (possible), or the Republican election chicanery that characterized the last two presidential elections also subverts this one (certainly they shall try), or an "October Surprise" more unnerving than the recent banking scare and raid on the Treasury is arranged (a new war, a suddenly hotter old war, a real or manufactured attack on "The Homeland" or "Our Brave Troops" by "Terrorists", "Enemies Of America" or unspecified "Forces Of Evil"), Mr. Barack Obama will be elected President of the United States on Tuesday, the fourth of November.
This will represent a considerable improvement over the embarrassing little loser we (by which I mean you, since I have never voted for a winning candidate for that office) elected, then elected again because we were scared and we got stupid and we lost our reason and our sense and our sense of proportion. Obama will be a better choice than would John McCain. Voters in nearly every state will reach, have reached the same conclusion. Alaskans, gun nuts, Christians of the more fervent and fundamentalist stripe, oil drillers and men who are inordinately moved by the admittedly considerable charms of vapid beauty queens will vote gladly and proudly for Mr. McCain. Some Republicans will do so unhappily, grudgingly, somewhat shamefacedly. Many will vote instead for Obama, and he will be elected.
John McCain has proved to be a terrible candidate. I think he is not worse than Rudy Giuliani would have been (excitable, crazy, dangerous), or than Mitt Romney would have been (dull, shallow, empty, boring, trite, dangerous in a less interesting way than Rudy), but he is bad in such an open, amateurish, public, bumbling way that most Republicans I know just shake their heads and grimace. Some dutifully put up their tacky little lawn signs, but their hearts are not in the game.
McCain would be a bad president. He would, of course, be a better one than President G. W. Bush, but, really, who wouldn't? Somewhere between the gas tax holiday and "Drill, Baby, Drill" most voters discerned how little his candidacy offered. His selection of the pretty but pretty stupid Ms. Palin secured the wavering Jesus vote and sent the balance of the country back to the debates and the endorsements and the ads for another look at young Mr. Obama.
Now, I have detailed my disappointment with Barack Obama here before. Briefly, for new members of our meeting, I list some. He spoke against the Iraq war, as represented, and subsequently, as a Senator, where his vote mattered more than his speeches, he voted to fund it, its blood and fire and torture and illegal, immoral indecency, time and time again. He advocates escalating the war in Afghanistan and expanding it into Pakistan (if necessary over the objections of that country's leaders or its people.) He is a booster of ethanol fuel, the ridiculous program that spends about a gallon of petroleum fuel to produce a gallon of corn or soybean fuel, in the process eroding farmland, raising food prices, and enriching Illinois corporations contributory to his campaign. He speaks well of the scam that is "clean coal."
Likewise, he thinks we need more nuclear plants, even though those of us not courting voters and counting on contributions from that industry can see that technology is uneconomic (witness Maine Yankee Atomic Power plant, closed because it did not pay), the fuel enrichment process is polluting and wasteful of energy, the industry requires the public shoulder its enormous insurance risk, and there has been and will be no solution to the issue of centuries-long safe waste disposal.
His health care proposal does not eliminate the insurance companies that are, by their nature, and because of their inefficiency, obfuscation and profits, the greatest impediment to universal and affordable and rational distribution of the medical arts in America. He proposes instead (as does McCain) a few convolutions and some manipulations and much business as usual, but lambastes McCain for proposing that employer-paid insurance be taxed as income, an idea eminently fair and reasonable to anyone (millions of us) not covered by that obtuse and arbitrary system.
He said he would not vote for the FISA domestic spying bill. He said he'd filibuster it if it contained retroactive immunity for the telecom giants that gave up your phone calls to the CIA. It did. He voted for it. Then he said it contained adequate safeguards and he was satisfied. I'm not satisfied.
A friend of mine used to tell me frequently and vehemently that we would not begin to have good candidates and better presidents until we had public financing of elections. The influence of money, he said, must be drained from the system. Obama calculated he could make greater headway in the race with more money and a few less principled voters. And I guess he was right, because he's swimming in money, polluting the airwaves with advertisements, and my friend doesn't so much bother me these days with odious comparisons between those noble candidates willing to live on limited public funds (such as, surprise!-John McCain, Republican) and the sold-out types with open-ended lines of credit from God-knows-who-or-what.
But vote for him, if you like. Please. He will be a better president than Bush. Better than McCain. Likely no worse than Bill Clinton was. But I see plenty of evidence that he will be as willing to triangulate as any Clinton was, and more willing and even eager to compromise, water-down and avoid. We do not need a man or woman whose intention is to "cross the aisle." After eight years of Bush and Cheney, and Clinton's terms of happy-talk Republican-lite, and the forgettable Bush-Quayle era (yes, even Dan Quayle was brighter and better qualified than Sarah Palin, I'm saddened to say), and all the damage old Twenty-Mule-Team-Reagan did while we were mesmerized by his smooth reading of his well-rehearsed lines-after all that-we could use a leader, not a compromiser.
Vote for Mr. Obama. Understand, though, that he will have no money with which to implement the programs he promises, having been among the majority of Senators who though it imperative that we quickly, with little debate and apparently not much consideration of alternatives, mortgage the country so that Wall Street's pain could be lessened by the application of a poultice of seven hundred billions of our dollars (a sum raised by another hundred billion or so through the addition of several "sweeteners" designed to bring on board otherwise reluctant Senators and Congressmen.)
And he wants another three divisions of our young men and women because "The Right War" is in Afghanistan (the country, the terrain, the enemy that defeated the British and the Russians before us), not in Iraq.
Some of my essays, after their short lives here, are republished at the excellent website CommonDreams. A few weeks ago the good persons who manage, produce, edit, moderate that site (www.commondreams.org) presented a rare editorial. They said that, despite Obama's imperfections and timidity and apparent willingness to back away from fundamental progressive principles, he was the better choice and we should vote for him. I would not argue with that analysis. But then they advised that, after he is elected, we, the voters, have a duty to keep pressuring, cajoling, demanding, petitioning, praying for him to engender and fight for the honest, forthright, humane, liberal ideals so many Americans believe in but so very few politicians will fight for. To this, I object.
Our duty is to be decent, honest, informed citizens. We have the right to be presented with candidates worthy not only of the offices they seek but also of the faith and trust of those who would elect them. It is a tough enough job keeping the kids off the streets and out of jail, putting a fresh bowl of food in front of the dog each morning and paying the oilman and the electric company and the bank each month; we should not have to baby-sit our president or write letters to our miscreant, money-loving, influence-peddling, self-aggrandizing representatives on every issue. The Republicans and the Democrats do not give us worthy candidates.
The larger newspapers and the television networks and those professors and pundits who tell us how we should think aver that part of America's greatness is its two-party system. This amazes me. The two parties continue to exacerbate our problems. The two-party system contrives only choices between terrible and perhaps not-so. We spend more, we get less, and Larry Craig may or may not have wiggled his toes at a cop stationed in the next stall, eating donuts with his pants around his ankles for his whole shift, just on the off-chance that a Senator might happen by with lovin' on his mind. Give me another half-dozen parties. Give me more and better candidates. In the meantime, enough of you will vote for Obama to return the control of the White House to a mainstream version of the powers that be. Dick Cheney can ooze back to the private sector and G. W. will be relieved of the terrible burden of pronouncing English words in public.
I'm not much worried about terrorists. I have no money in obscure investment vehicles. Tax my non-existent, unaffordable insurance all you like. But I am scared. I'm always scared when the whole great mass of us lines up behind one idea or one project or one charismatic personality. These passions always disappoint and sometimes take us terribly wrong.
I heard on Public Radio this evening an interview with author Michael Pollan, who has written an open letter to the candidates asking them to reorder our agriculture policy toward local, sustainable, less fuel-intensive, pesticide-rich food production. Asked if either had contacted him. He said, no, not directly. One campaign did ask if he would reduce his eight thousand word proposal to "one or two pages" so the candidate could get the high points without the burden of actually reading all eight thousand words. To his great credit, I think, he refused. If he could have said what he wanted to say in one or two pages he'd have done so.
I have an idea which candidate didn't care enough to even address the important ideas Mr. Pollan essayed. That the other, better candidate, better man, almost certainly better president wanted the Reader's Digest Condensed version says much, I think, about how thin and sad our choices, our public life, our country have become, how far we have slipped and how much farther yet we may fall.
Good night. Good luck. Thank you for your attention to my eighteen hundred words.




110 Comments so far
Show AllWhat drivel. You get disenfranchised by a corporate warmonger party and still counsel voting for them!
ANOTHER article which lists ZERO ways in which Obama would be better than McCain, skipping ahead to stating this as fact with no supporting evidence.
This is like: "My cousin beats women... in fact he hates women. He rapes when possible. He told me he'd stop, but that was a lie. He makes a living selling kiddie porn and crack. I don't even know where some of the money comes from. He has substance abuse issues about which he lies. He filed a court injunction to keep me from making a living. Sometimes he hits me.
But trust me, he's better than Bob over there for some unspecified reason, so your daughter should date him. I mean, Bob would be the other choice, right?"
Dude, the author's voting for McKinney. The article slams Obama pretty good.
Dude, the article counsels people to vote for Obama. It includes the specific phrase "vote for Obama" twice at least. "Do as I say, not as I do." is the author's message.
After running umpteen articles PRAISING Obama and telling us to vote for him, CD ran one article slamming Obama - YET STILL TELLING US TO VOTE FOR HIM!
I imagine that someone has been reading the comments section and decided that a Good Cop article was needed in addition to all of the Bad Cop ones, as those weren't working.
WOW! You are against his pro-nuclear position, yet counsel others to vote for him! Fear of McCain trumps realistic fears of Obama. Neither has earned our votes. If I wasn't so sad, I'd laugh! Fear based decisions never work the way we think they will. My real hope is that when Obama does exactly what he has told us he will do millions will WAKE UP and reject both parties and join in as we build a progressive majority.
“But vote for him, if you like. Please”
that is basically all there is to it for Democrats, correct?
You seem to be forgeting, it is not going to get any easier for you guys. The religious nuts are only getting stronger. Obama keeping the seat warm for the next nut “president Palin 2012” maybe, doesn’t do you much good.
You have so many destructive myths and so much ignorance to roll back, and Obama has no mandate for any of that. I’d wager that he will do little to slow your money being poured into the next super bomber or death ray or whatever excuse the military companies create to take your money, money that could take care of you in your old age or educate your kids.
One wonders given the expansive list in this article (by no means complete) of what STILL doesn't turn "progressive" people from Obama and toward a left of center candidate... what would?
What could conceivably be the breaking point?
At this point, I think maybe - MAYBE - if Obama raped and then ate a toddler on live TV, upwards of 10% of Democrats would strongly consider Nader.
No, still 99.99% of the Dimocrats would still vote for Obama.
I've been so puzzled by the fact that there are no arguments that will budge otherwise rational human beings away from Obama. I asked my sister if she would support a candidate who is pro-war? No. Pro-nuclear power? No. Pro-Rubin type economic policies & the Wall Street bailout? No. The list is endless! The whopper? She's going to vote for Obama!!! BECAUSE we are trapped in a two-party system and it is unrealistic, blah, blah, blah! But I still hope for change: when disillusioned people will WAKE UP and work for a progressive majority outside the one-party system.
I know. Don't get me started on that (referring to your first sentence). These Obama suckers are like talking to a brick wall. You can shove Obama's pro-Bush voting record and neocon statements in their face and what do they come up with? Nothing but his simplistic hope and change slogan, FDR shit and their wishful-thinking and false hope.
These are the same people, mind you, that had all of these grandiose, delusional hopes and dreams for the Dems when they became the majority after 2006. The Dem kool-aid drinkers had this long list (including impeachment) that their beloved Dems were supposedly going to do AGAINST Bush. Did any of it happened? NO. I told them they were deluding themselves before the 2006 "election." They called me a "Republican troll." Did their Bush-accomplice Dems doing ANY of the things on their wishful-thinking list?
NO. NONE OF IT HAS HAPPENED.
And these damn fools are taking the same fuking approach with Obama. They are the thickest, dense people to deal with. They don't learn. They refuse to learn from the past. They are insane (they repeat the same thing over and over and then expect different results...like voting for Republicrats one voting cycle after the other and expecting positive change).
Ask your sister if Obama were the Republican nominee (which he could easily be) would she still be voting for him? I suspect many Obama voters would say "no" to that question. Because then you're dealing with that deeply programmed D party-line shit, which is why most people are sucked on to Obama to begin with...because he has a big D behind his name and that's all that matters to most D party-line programmed people. The sheep.
I think you all may benefit from reading the article again.
Mr. Cooper is "okay" with people voting for Obama.
But he is NOT okay with Obama or his policy positions.
This is the whole thrust of the piece, b ut you seem to have missed it.
I agree with matti on this. Cooper seems to be able to step outside the party line to cast his vote, but he is accepting, rather than excoriating, those of us without his aplomb, nerve, courage, recklessness, or whatever it might be, who can or will not. Sometimes when you view the world through red-rage glasses it's hard to tell who's on your side.
I must object somewhat to your statement that it's not our duty to baby-sit our President. Times demand that at least those of us who can muster a few minutes now and then, must kick the Donkey in the ass on occassion, even if just for a bit of self gratification. Some things have improved a bit since TS and Ezra showed us the Hollow Men in the Wasteland. I believe if we rearrange their faces we may get a glimpse beyond Desolation Row.
"I must object somewhat to your statement that it's not our duty to baby-sit our President."
That's not the citizens job it's congress's job to direct the president.
"must kick the Donkey in the ass on occassion"
The best way to do that is by voting the suckers(leaches) out of office. We had some good people running for the president on the democratic ticket but too many people were sold and bought into the line they weren't electable.
Rickster
... What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singin' songs, and carryin' signs
Mostly say "hooray for our side"
....
Buffalo Springfield: "For What It's Worth."
Still remember this as the topical song at the time of our 1967 Junior Prom.
Uuuuuh,... Yep.
"I was thinking of enlisting in Obama's expanded army to kill towelhead babies."
That would be an honest answer from an Obama supporter, but I don't think these people have that level of honesty in them. Best to let the economic draft send poor kids to kill and die.
Dear 14.5 (I think you overstate by a factor of ten),
Unless "genius" has been substantially revised with a great deal of the rest of your revisionistic history lesson, I believe you think a little too highly of your analytical skills. By your capitulation, aid and abetting, you do yourself and your country much disservice.
It's my observation that only your pretension level exceeds statistical norms.
Signed,
One who has not driven since the day after CheneyOilCo's coup... almost eight years ago.
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Chris Cooper writes:
A few weeks ago the good persons who manage, produce, edit, moderate that site (www.commondreams.org) presented a rare editorial.
....................
I didn't see that editorial. Wonder if anybody has a copy? Or where I might find it?
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Google search
"chris cooper" site:commondreams.org
Better than Chernus and Solomon, this is the "cherries jubilee" of CD-style status-quo mongering. I like this author, I sense he is not manipulative, but an honest man. For that, I salute him.
I'm also glad he is going to vote for worthy candidates. I think that "Anyone But McCain" is a viable stance, *if it includes any other party or candidate as a possibility*--not shorthand for "vote Obama." I can see the logic of that. The most important thing to do--given the ABM stance--is to vote for the candidate you truly favor. If you think Obama is the best of the lot, then that's where your vote should go. McKinney, vote for her...and so on.
Now, to the Democratic Underground and Smirking Chimp and other hacks who kick out people who criticize Mother Church at their sites, I say: you have nothing to offer us but your chronic dishonesty, your lack of spine, and your endless excuses for the *lousy* politicians and politics you peddle. You are a major part of why our country has sunk to its present, pathetic, state. You have enabled Bush and his proto-fascists to come close enough to electoral victory to repeatedly hijack the Presidency...and OF COURSE, your candidates immediately caved, instead of standing up for the Constitution and democracy.
So...to you I say, get lost. Oh...you already are.
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I would rather vote for what I want and not get it, than vote for what I don't want and get that. -- Eugene V. Debs
" I say: you have nothing to offer us but your chronic dishonesty, your lack of spine, and your endless excuses for the *lousy* politicians and politics you peddle. You are a major part of why our country has sunk to its present, pathetic, state. You have enabled Bush and his proto-fascists to come close enough to electoral victory to repeatedly hijack the Presidency...and OF COURSE, your candidates immediately caved, instead of standing up for the Constitution and democracy. "
Actually, that's a pretty fair description of the Democratic party. :)
I'm always struck by just how doctrinaire and stuck to just party-line thinking the Democrats are. They try to pretend they are better than the Republicans. But then they tend to be just as intolerant of other views and voices as the Republicans.
They pretend to care about voters or issues. But when push really comes down to shove, they only care about winning. And anyone who dares to get in their way is the enemy.
Yeah, they are already lost. But they scream loudly and attack anyone who tries to point this out to them.
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"To know, and not to do, is not to know"
Pretty much sums up exactly how I feel, too. Thank you, Mr. Cooper.
With that said, there isn't much left to say at this point.
See you after November 4th.
Priorities, people; first we must bring down the barbarians, then we can work against superstition, and then – just maybe – we may be able to bring about changes and drag our nation, kicking and screaming, out of the dark ages.
Obama is a warmonger barbarian.
Is that really helping to advance the discussion, Chris? Take it from a reformed flamer and temper it down a bit. You'll get a lot more respect and maybe learn something from outside your echo chamber.
I wish you Obama people would spend half of the time reflecting on your candidate's positions that you do on my tone. I'm willing to bet that if I typed "McCain is a barbarian warmonger," also true, that you'd let it slide.
Maybe, because it would be slightly truer, but that's not the point. The left will never get ahead with the radicals attacking the moderates. You've got to negotiate and listen once in a while. Cooper's approach to those of us voting for Obama might be a better approach for the radical left.
How are "we" going to bring down the barbarians (I know you are including the Bush-accomplice Dems in that group, aren't you?) on a corrupt, vote-flipping, easily-hackable, riggable, dishonest and fraudulent voting system owned and controlled by the Republicans?
Explain that please. Keeping in mind that the corrupt voting system is the FIRST THING that must be dealt with (and made honest, fair and legitimate) BEFORE any of the other things are likely to happen.
What exactly is wrong with "barbarians"?
Their lack of Empire?
mwb26810
And the only sound that's left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row.
Thank you, Mr. Cooper.
Signed,
Another Miserable Citizen
For about the 15th time in 3 days:
Will ANY Obama voter list the differences on policy issues and voting records (since Obama won that Illinois non-contest) between Obama and McCain? How 'bout Obama and Bush?
Gee Chris, I sure hope Cynthia wins. Maybe the voting public will have an epiphany and vote her in. Maybe the skinheads that want to kill Obama will vote for her. And maybe voting for her won't mean McBush will get in. I included a Lotto ticket on my wish list.
I take it McBush means McCain is like Bush, which is bad. So how is Obama not like McCain and Bush, policy by policy?
For about the 16th time in 3 days:
Will ANY Obama voter list the differences on policy positions and voting records (since Obama won that Illinois non-contest) between Obama and McCain? How 'bout Obama and Bush?
Sure. Here's a big difference. McCain wants to increase the tax benefits of US corporations to ship our jobs overseas. Obama wants to remove the tax benefit for US Corporations to ship jobs overseas, and instead impose a tax penalty.
Here's another. McCain's health plan is not going to solve our problems. Have you ever applied for a private health insurance policy with a pre-existing condition? Most likely, you're going to get rejected. Period. End of story. Obama's health plan covers everyone. This is a big deal if, for example, your son has kidney disease and will require either a transplant or dialysis, and he can't get coverage under your group policy because he's too old, but he can't get in another group plan because he's to sick to get a job. The only alternative is to buy an individual policy. And no insurance company is going to write a policy on someone with kidney disease.
If you want to know more difference between McCain and Obama, ask me or else Google it. There is no excuse to not know the differences between the 2 candidates at this point unless you have be intentionally avoiding doing any research.
On the health coverage:
"When compared to Hillary Clinton, the biggest difference is that Obama does not mandate that all adults have health insurance and Clinton does. In my mind, there is actually little or no difference between the two candidates on this point because the real issue in getting everyone covered is to make health insurance affordable—not whether it is required or not. I did a full post on this topic that you can access here."
http://www.thehealthcareblog.com/the_health_care_blog/2008/03/a-detailed-anal.html
Comparisons to McCain are also made. Both McCain and Obama preserve the world's only private pay-in, for-profit healthcare system. Me? I'm a single payer guy, which would force healthcare to be a right, would save the government a lot of money and take the profit incentive out of who lives and dies. It's the plan doctors and nurses prefer when polled, but what do they know? Best to partner with the health insurance industry and guarantee profit for them at public expense, seeing as they've been so good to us for all of these years.
Obama on jobs going overseas:
http://www.slate.com/id/2185753
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/18/magazines/fortune/easton_obama.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008061815
So these are your two big progressive issues?
How about you tell us ow Obama and McCain differ on the PATRIOT Act, Afghanistan, Iran, the Palestinians, prosecuting members of the Bush administration, nuke energy, corn ethanol, coal, CAFA/tort rights, complete withdrawal from Iraq..?
"Obama's health plan covers everyone."
You think so? He must have come out with a new plan that I don't know about. Based on the plan I've seen I can't figured out how I'm going to be covered.
Rickster
Last poll I saw for Maine showed:
Obama 54%
McCain 39%
Unsure 3%
Other 3%
So how exactly will Mr. Cooper's voting for McKinney cause McCain to win?
I get so annoyed at this B.S. that doesn't take the vote State-by-State.
It seems designed SOLEY to surpress the "thierd-party" vote.
Ayuh, to use the local parlance.
It might be helpful if more posters here consulted the Googles for the phrase "electoral college". Assuming, of course, their state has retained the ballot from the clutches of Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia, et al.
I agree, if Maine stays safe.
I've said it here before and I'll say it again. If the 3rd party crowd has a viable candidate, good for you. Go for it. Let's see him/her. But your problem is you can't even agree on one 3rd party candidate. The progressive vote is what - 5% of the electorate? And you're splitting that up between at least 2 or 3 candidates. If you want to make some progress, you're going to have to unite instead of squabble amongst yourselves. When you unite, you are probably going to have to make some compromises. Oh - and you'll need money too. Lots of it.
Joining forces is the way kingdoms have been forged, battles won, countries built, great tasks accomplished. That's the way it is because it works. You're not going to change fundamental human social behavior. Take a reality pill, man.
... and yet your guy Obama is afraid to debate the people who constitute that 5%, because overnight you'd be talking about considerably more than 5%...
Fear may be part of it, but it's pragmatic fear. The 5% candidate has absolutely nothing to lose in a debate, but the leading candiadate has the presidency to lose. The 5%-er has already lost the presidency. Check out Al Sharpton in 2004 - he was by far more entertaining, progressive and probing candidate in those Democratic debates precisely because he had nothing to lose. If Nader ever got close to winning the presidency he would do the same things, and say things that seem like selling out to you because he'd have to to get elected in the current system. If he doesn't really want to be elected why does he keep running? I think you need to examine all the candidates with a slightly bigger dose of reality.
The Dems and Reps work together to keep all other candidates out of debates. So the fear of small party candidates is clearly far greater than the fear of losing to each other. The major candidates are so awful that they can't risk being in a room with the small party people!
Obviously a 5% candidate can lose support with a bad showing. "Nothing to lose" is a ridiculous argument on the face of it.
I don't believe they are scared of the 5% debater directly, but are afraid of making a mistake or looking like poorly in comparison to the 5%-er with "nothing" to lose. Nothing-to-lose in this context means no-chance-of-winning-the-presidency-to-lose. It is a valid argument, as the debate goal of a 3rd party debater at 5% approval is far different from a party candidate at 42%. So it is obvious why the only two viable candidates, the Republican one and the Democratic one, would avoid giving the 5% candidate a debate. Conversely, the 5% candidate is probably not concerned with losing support. If he was he would be a compromiser, a triangulator, a sell-out just like you complain that the viable candidates are. You can't really have it both ways.
I'll assume the 5%-er is not as timid as you and is ready to call out all of his policies and arguments you espouse here. He loses nothing, but the mainstreamer could look bad. But when the mainstream candidate's support slips, only around 5% or so of that loss goes to the 3rd party debater; the other 95% shifts to his corporate opposite, and that's what he has to lose. He will never risk that, so both corporate parties will certainly work to avoid debating anyone else.
We happen to disagree with your view of "reality." The issue isn't whether there's a viable 3rd-party candidate in this election--we all agree that there isn't. The issue is what's the most viable LONG-TERM strategy: 1) guaranteeing our votes to the Democrats year after year, thereby forfeiting any chance to hold them accountable at the polls, or 2) supporting third-party candidates as part of a strategy of building a political force/movement independent of the Democrats that can put more and more pressure on them, and the Republicrat capitalist political machine as a whole, as time goes on. And I think that strategy 1, the one you prefer, is suicidal in terms of this country's long-term future. Contrary to what Barack Obama would have you believe, it is a hopeless course of action. Strategy 2 is our only hope.
I think anyone reading Cooper's analysis should admit, at least, that our objections to Obama's candidacy amount to more than:
"yada yada yada
get real, the beat goes on.
now tell me he's the lesser evil.
we hear this same shit every four years."
which Jeanmarie Simpson said (today on CD in her article "Like it or Not) sums up all of our objections.
Ironically, "get real... we hear this same shit every four years." is exactly the mantra of the Obama people against Nader and McKinney people on this site!
So Mr. Green Party Obama supporter...
... when Obama gets huge numbers here in Pennsylvania, and in 2010 the ballot signature requirements will be 2% of his vote total, how does this help the Green Party build? How is this strategic?
In 2008 the party in this state stopped collecting signatures in the summer for the '08 ballot because the numbers were insurmountable.
So you want to vote for a guy with McCain's policies, and then after two years of his right wing attacks you want the Green Party to have to struggle against his high vote totals in any attempt to achieve ballot access?
How is this anything other than suicidally stupid?
Part of the reason that the Dems in PA work so hard to get out the sheeple vote is that they know state law makes that a devastating blow to people left of them doing election organizing in the next cycle. Put that in your 'pragmatist' pipe and smoke it.
As much as I don't want to see mccain elected, I can't help but wonder how any democractic candidate and/or supporter could believe that "moving to the right" is a viable strategy.
After gore, kerry and maybe obama have all failed for this reason, you guys will realize how "moving to the right" means selling out the people who would have voted for you.
Ok, so I live in a state that's most likely to go for Mccain although maybe the Omaha region might be able to split a vote for Obama. Still, I'm voting for Obama so that the whiners will foam at the mouth saying "See, I told you to vote for Nader/Mckinney" if by 2012 things aren't any better under Obama's presidency. Obama's already being forced to recoup the money that Bush/Cheney have successfully drained from the treasury thanks to tax cuts for the rich, Wall Street giveways with the 700b bailout (and yes, I'm not happy that Obama fell for the 700b either), wars, trade deficits, etc ... Given the fickled mindedness of voting, I can't say Obama will win in a landslide but I'll wager he'll get 300-350 EVs.