The Value of One, the Value of None
An Anatomy of Collateral Damage in the Bush Era
In a little noted passage in her bestselling book, The Dark Side, Jane Mayer offers us a vision, just post-9/11, of the value of one. In October 2001, shaken by a nerve-gas false alarm at the White House, Vice President Dick Cheney, reports Mayer, went underground. He literally embunkered himself in "a secure, undisclosed location," which she describes as "one of several Cold War-era nuclear-hardened subterranean bunkers built during the Truman and Eisenhower administrations, the nearest of which were located hundreds of feet below bedrock..." That bunker would be dubbed, perhaps only half-sardonically, "the Commander in Chief's Suite."
Oh, and in that period, if Cheney had to be in transit, "he was chauffeured in an armored motorcade that varied its route to foil possible attackers." In the backseat of his car (just in case), adds Mayer, "rested a duffel bag stocked with a gas mask and a biochemical survival suit." And lest danger rear its head, "rarely did he travel without a medical doctor in tow."When it came to leadership in troubled times, this wasn't exactly a profile in courage. Perhaps it was closer to a profile in paranoia, or simply in fear, but whatever else it might have been, it was also a strange kind of statement of self-worth. Has any wartime president -- forget the vice-president -- including Abraham Lincoln when southern armies might have marched on Washington, or Franklin D. Roosevelt at the height of World War II, ever been so bizarrely overprotected in the nation's capital? Has any administration ever placed such value on the preservation of the life of a single official?
On the other hand, the well-armored Vice President and his aide David Addington played a leading role, as Mayer documents in grim detail, in loosing a Global War on Terror that was also a global war of terror on lands thousands of miles distant. In this new war, "the gloves came off," "the shackles were removed" -- images much loved within the administration and, in the case of those "shackles," by George Tenet's CIA. In the process, no price in human abasement or human life proved too high to pay -- as long as it was paid by someone else.
Recently, it was paid by up to 60 Afghan children.
The Value of None
If no level of protection was too much for this White House, then no protection was what it offered civilians who happened to be living in the ever expanding "war zones" of the planet. In the Middle East, in Somalia, in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, the war to be fought -- in part from the air, sometimes via pilotless unmanned aerial vehicles or drones -- would, in crucial ways, be aimed at civilians (though this could never be admitted). "Collateral damage," the sterile, self-exculpating phrase the Pentagon chose to use for the anything-but-secondary death and destruction visited on civilians, would be the name of the game in the President's chosen war almost from the moment the Vice President disappeared into his bunker.In a world where death came suddenly in that vast swath of the planet the neoconservatives once called "the arc of instability" (before they made it one), civilians had few doctors on hand, no less full chemical body suits or gas masks, when disaster struck. Often they were asleep, or going about their daily business, when death made its appearance unannounced. Throughout these years, the stories of these deaths, when they appeared at all, normally were to be found on the inside pages of our newspapers in summary war reports. Regularly, they had "women and children" buried somewhere in them.
We have no idea just how many civilians have been blown away by the U.S. military (and allies) in these years, only that the "collateral damage" has been widespread and far more central to the President's War on Terror than anyone here generally cares to acknowledge. Collateral damage has come in myriad ways -- from artillery fire in the initial invasion of Iraq; from repeated shootings of civilians in vehicles at checkpoints, and from troops (or even private mercenaries) blasting away from convoys; during raids on private homes; in village operations; and, significantly, from the air.
In Afghanistan, in particular, as the Taliban insurgency grew more quickly than U.S. and NATO troop strength, so did the use of air power. From 2004 to 2007, air strikes increased tenfold. Over the past year, civilian deaths from those air strikes have nearly tripled. According to Marc Garlasco, a former Pentagon official and military analyst at Human Rights Watch, 317,000 pounds of bombs were dropped this June and 270,000 this July, equaling "the total tonnage dropped in 2006."
As with all figures relating to casualties, the actual counts you get on Afghan civilian dead are approximations and probably undercounts, especially since the war against the Taliban has been taking place largely in the backlands of one (or, if you count Pakistan, two) of the poorest, most remote regions on the planet. And yet we do know something. For instance, although the media have seldom attended to the subject, we know that one subset of innocent civilians has been slaughtered repeatedly. While, for instance, Americans spent days in October 2006 riveted to TV screens following the murders of five Amish girls by a madman in a one-room schoolhouse in Pennsylvania, and weeks following the mass slaughter of 32 college students by a mad boy at Virginia Tech in April 2007, between 2001 and this year, three Afghan and one Iraqi wedding parties were largely wiped out from the air by American planes, the latest only months ago, to hardly any news coverage at all.The message of these slaughters -- an estimated 47 people, mostly from "the bride's party," including the bride herself, died in the latest such "incident" -- is that if you live in areas where the Taliban exists, which is now much of the country, you'd better not gather.
Each of these events was marked by something else -- the uniformity of the U.S. response: initial claims that U.S. forces had been fired on first and that those killed were the enemy; a dismissal of the slaughters as the unavoidable "collateral damage" of wartime; and, above all, an unwillingness to genuinely apologize for, or take real responsibility for, having wiped out groups of celebrating locals.
And keep in mind that such disasters are just subsets of a far larger, barely covered story. In July alone, for example, the U.S. military and NATO officials launched investigations into three air strikes in Afghanistan in which 78 Afghan civilians (including that wedding party) were killed.Since the Afghan War began in 2001, such "incidents" have occurred again and again. Not surprisingly, the Bush administration, in combination with the Pentagon, has devised a method for dealing with such happenings. After all, the Global War on Terror is premised on an unspoken belief that the lives of others -- civilians going about their business in distant lands -- are essentially of no importance when placed against American needs and desires. That, you might say, is the value of none.
Incident in Azizabad
Another gathering of Afghans recently ended with the slaughter of civilians on a startling scale. For once, it's gotten far more than minimal coverage and hasn't (yet) gone away. Remaining in the news, it has also opened a window into just how the U.S. military and the Bush administration have dealt with most incidents of "collateral damage" that made it into the news over these last years.Here are the basic facts as best we know them. On the night of August 21st, a memorial service was held in Azizabad, a village in the Shindand District of Afghanistan's Herat Province, for a tribal leader killed the previous year, who had been, villagers reported, anti-Taliban. Hundreds had attended, including "extended families from two tribes."
That night, a combined party of U.S. Special Forces and Afghan army troops attacked the village. They claimed they were "ambushed" and came under "intense fire." What we know is that they called in repeated air strikes. According to several investigations and the on-the-spot reporting of New York Times journalist Carlotta Gall, at least 90 civilians, including perhaps 15 women and up to 60 children, died that night. As many as 76 members of a single extended family were killed, along with its head, Reza Khan. His compound seems to have been specially targeted.Khan, it turns out, was no Taliban "militant," but a "wealthy businessman with construction and security contracts with the nearby American base at Shindand airport." He reportedly had a private security company that worked for the U.S. military at the airport and also owned a cell phone business in the town of Herat. He had a card "issued by an American Special Forces officer that designated [him] as a 'coordinator for the U.S.S.F.'" Eight of the other men killed that night, according to Gall, worked as guards for a private American security firm. At least two dead men had served in the Afghan police and fought against the Taliban.
The incident in Azizabad may represent the single deadliest media-verified attack on civilians by U.S. forces since the invasion of 2001. Numerous buildings were damaged. Many bodies, including those of children, had to be dug out of the rubble. There may have been as many as 60 children among the dead. The U.S. military evidently attacked after being given false information by another tribal leader/businessman in the area with a grudge against Khan and his brother. As one tribal elder, who helped bury the dead, put it: "It is quite obvious, the Americans bombed the area due to wrong information. I am 100 percent confident that someone gave the information due to a tribal dispute. The Americans are foreigners and they do not understand. These people they killed were enemies of the Taliban."
Repeated U.S. air attacks resulting in civilian deaths have proven a disaster for Afghan President Hamid Karzai. He promptly denounced the strikes against Azizabad, fired two Afghan commanders, including the top ranking officer in western Afghanistan, for "negligence and concealing facts," and ordered his own investigation of the incident. His team of investigators concluded that more than 90 Afghan civilians had indeed died. Along with the Afghan Council of Ministers, Karzai also demanded a "review" of "the presence of international forces and agreements with foreign allies, including NATO and the United States."Ahmad Nader Nadery, commissioner of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, similarly reported that one of the group's researchers had "found that 88 people had been killed, including 20 women." The U.N. mission in Afghanistan then dispatched its own investigative team from Herat to interview survivors. Its investigation "found convincing evidence, based on the testimony of eyewitnesses, and others, that some 90 civilians were killed, including 60 children, 15 women and 15 men." (The 60 children were reportedly "3 months old to 16 years old, all killed as they slept.")
The American ResponseGiven the weight of evidence at Azizabad, the on-site investigations, the many graves, the destroyed houses, the specificity of survivor accounts, and so on, this might have seemed like a cut-and-dried case of mistaken intelligence followed by an errant assault with disastrous consequences. But accepting such a conclusion simply isn't in the playbook of the U.S. military or the Bush administration.
Instead, in such cases what you regularly get is a predictable U.S. narrative about what happened made up of outlandish claims (or simply bald-faced lies), followed by a strategy of stonewalling, including a blame-the-victims approach in which civilian deaths are regularly dismissed as enemy-inspired "propaganda," followed -- if the pressure doesn't ease up -- by the announcement of an "investigation" (whose results will rarely be released), followed by an expression of "regrets" or "sorrow" for the loss of life -- both weasel words that can be uttered without taking actual responsibility for what happened -- never to be followed by a genuine apology.
Now, let's consider the American response to Azizabad.The Numbers
Initially, the U.S. military flatly denied that any civilians had been killed in the village. In the operation, they claimed, exactly 30 Taliban "militants" had died. ("Insurgents engaged the soldiers from multiple points within the compound using small-arms and RPG [rocket-propelled grenade] fire. The joint forces responded with small-arms fire and an air strike killing 30 militants.")
Targeted, they said, had been a single compound holding a local Taliban commander, later identified as Mullah Sadiq, who was killed. (Sadiq would subsequently call Radio Liberty to indicate that he was still very much alive and deny that he had been in the village that night.) Quickly enough, however, military spokespeople began backing off. Brig. Gen. Richard Blanchette, a NATO spokesman, said that "investigators sent to the site immediately after the bombing" had, in fact, verified the deaths of three women and two children, who were suspected of being relatives of the dead Taliban commander.
After President Karzai's angry denunciation, and the results of his team's investigation was released, the U.S. military altered its account slightly, admitting that only 25 Taliban fighters had actually died as well as five Afghans identified as "noncombatants," including a woman and two children. The U.S. command, however, remained "very confident" that only 30 Afghans had been killed.
Later, after a military investigation had been launched, the U.S. command in Afghanistan issued a vague statement indicating that "[c]oalition forces are aware of allegations that the engagement in the Shindand district of Herat Province, Friday, may have resulted in civilian casualties apart from those already reported."On August 28th, the U.S. military "investigation" released its results, confirming that only 30 Afghans had died.
On August 29th, however, Gen. David D. McKiernan, American commander of NATO forces, raised the number, suggesting that "up to 40" Afghans might have died, though still insisting that only five of them had been civilians, the rest being "men of military age."
These revised numbers were still being touted on September 2nd when, according to the Washington Post, "U.S. military officials flatly rejected" the Afghan and U.N. figures.On September 4th, the Los Angeles Times reported that the U.S. military was now "acknowledging" 35 militants and seven civilians -- 42 Afghans -- had died in the attack.
This is where the American numbers remain today. Think of all this as a strange (and callous) kind of informal negotiation process under pressure. Over a span of two weeks, the Americans slowly gave way on those previously definitive figures, moving modestly closer to the ones offered by the Karzai and U.N. teams, without ever giving way on their version of what had happened.
The Investigations
The first investigation, according to U.S. military spokespeople, occurred the morning after the attack when investigators from the attacking force supposedly went house to house "assessing damage and casualties" and "taking photos." Combat photographers were said to have "documented the scene." According to New York Times reporter Gall, the U.S. military claimed its forces had made a "thorough sweep of this small western hamlet, a building-by-building search a few hours after the air strikes, and a return visit on Aug. 26, which villagers insist never occurred."As claims of civilian deaths mounted and Karzai denounced the attacks, Maj. Gen. Jeffrey J. Schloesser, the commander of coalition forces in Afghanistan, ordered an "investigation" into the episode. ("All allegations of civilian casualties are taken very seriously. Coalition forces make every effort to prevent the injury or loss of innocent lives. An investigation has been directed.")
On August 29th, the conclusions of the investigation, completed in near record time, were released. The casualty count -- only 30 Afghans, 25 of them Taliban militants -- had been definitively confirmed. A future "joint investigation" with the Afghan government was, however, proposed. On the 29th, General McKiernan suggested that the U.N., too, should be part of the joint investigation.
On September 3rd, the Afghans accepted the U.S. proposal for what was now a "tripartite investigation."
On September 7th, "emerging evidence" -- a grainy video taken on a cell phone by a doctor in Azizabad, "showing dozens of civilian bodies, including those of numerous children, prepared for burial" -- led Gen. McKiernan to ask that the U.S. investigation be reopened. The U.S. Central Command is now preparing to "send a senior team, headed by a general and including a legal affairs officer, to reinvestigate."Normally, such investigations, whose results usually remain classified, are no more than sops, meant to quiet matters until attention dies away. In this case, the minimalist military investigation, which merely backed up the initial cover-up about the assault on Azizabad, was forced into the open and, as protest in Aghanistan widened, has now essentially been consigned to the trash heap of history.
The WordsInitially, according to the Washington Post, "a U.S. military spokeswoman dismissed as 'outrageous' the Afghan government's assertions that scores of civilians had been killed in the attack... A U.S. official in Washington, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the Taliban has become adept at spreading false intelligence to draw U.S. strikes on civilians." In not-for-attribution comments, U.S. military officials would later suggest "that the villagers fabricated such evidence as grave sites."
Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, a spokeswoman for the U.S. military, insisted: "We're confident that we struck the right compound."
On August 24th, as protests over the deaths at Azizabad mounted in Afghanistan, White House Spokesman Tony Fratto said at a press gaggle: "We regret the loss of life among the innocent Afghanis who we are committed to protect... Coalition forces take precautions to prevent the loss of civilians, unlike the Taliban and militants who target civilians and place civilians in harm's way."
On August 25th, Fratto added: "We believe from what we've heard from officials at the Department of Defense that they believe it was a good strike... I should tell you, though, first of all, we obviously mourn the loss of any innocent civilians that may lose their lives in these attacks in -- whether they're in Afghanistan or in Iraq, in any of these conflict areas." On that same day, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said: "We continue at this point to believe that this was a legitimate strike against the Taliban. Unfortunately there were some civilian casualties, although that figure is in dispute, I would say. But this is why it is being investigated."On August 27th at a Pentagon press conference, Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. James Conway said: "If the reports of the Afghan civilian casualties are accurate -- and sometimes that is a big 'if' because I think we all understand the Taliban capabilities with regard to information operations -- but if that proves out, that will be truly an unfortunate incident. And we need to avoid that, certainly, at every cost...
"You know, air power is the premiere asymmetric advantage that we hold over both the Taliban and, for that matter, the al Qaeda in Iraq... And when we find that you're up against hardened people in a hardened type of compound, before we throw our Marines or soldiers against that, we're going to take advantage of our asymmetric advantage... You don't always know what's in that compound, unfortunately. And sometimes we think there's been overt efforts on the part of the Taliban, in particular, to surround themselves with civilians so as to, at a minimum, reap an IO [information operations] advantage if civilians are killed."
On August 29th, Gen. McKiernan reiterated the American position, while expressing regrets for any loss of civilian life: "This was a legitimate insurgent target. We regret the loss of civilian life, but the numbers that we find on this target area are nowhere near the number reported in the media, and that we believe there was a very deliberate information operation orchestrated by the insurgency, by the Taliban." He also complained about the U.N. investigation, saying: "I am very disappointed in the United Nations because they have not talked to this headquarters before they made that release" and he suggested that President Karzai had been the victim of bad information.
On September 3rd, with pressure growing, U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Zalmay Khalilzad put the disparities in numbers down to the "fog of war," while urging a new joint investigation: "I believe that there is a bit of a fog of war involved in some of these initial reports. Sometimes initial reports can be wrong. And the best way to deal with it is to have the kind of investigation that we have proposed, which is U.S., coalition, plus the Afghan government, plus the United Nations."On the same day, Karzai's office issued a statement indicating that President Bush had phoned the Afghan president: "The President of America has expressed his regret and sympathy for the occurrence of Shindand incident." They quoted him as saying, "I am a partner in your loss and that of the Afghan people."
On September 3rd, General McKiernan said: "Every death of a civilian in wartime is a terrible tragedy. Even one death is too many... I wish to again express my sincere condolences and apologies to the families whose loved ones were inadvertently killed in the cross fire with the insurgents in Azizabad." Though the Afghans seem to have largely died due to U.S. air strikes, not in a crossfire, this was as close to an apology as anyone related to the U.S. government or military has come.On September 7th, as he was reopening the military investigation, Gen. McKiernan said: "The people of Afghanistan have our commitment to get to the truth."
Playing with Fire
Let me mention a small irony of history. The U.S. military claimed that its now discredited findings at Azizabad "were corroborated by an independent journalist embedded with the U.S. force." That man turned out to be none other than Oliver North, working for FOX News. North had not only gained notoriety as an official of, a defender of, and a shredder of papers for the Reagan administration in the Iran-Contra scandal, but had earlier fought in Vietnam. He actually appeared as a witness for the defense in the case of one of the Marines accused of carrying out a massacre of Vietnamese at Son Thang in February 1970.
As now, so in Vietnam, were "hearts and minds" being hunted both from the air and on the ground; so, too, civilians were repeatedly blown away there; and so, too, as in the case of the infamous My Lai massacre, cover stories were fabricated to explain how civilians -- Vietnamese peasants -- had died and those stories were publicized by the U.S. military, even though they bore little or no relation to what had actually happened.Today, "hearts and minds" are being similarly hunted across large stretches of the planet, and people in surprising numbers continue to die while simply trying to lead their lives. This summer was, in fact, dotted with "incidents" that often barely reached the news, in which civilians died in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the tribal areas of Pakistan: At a checkpoint in Iraq's Diyala Province, American soldiers killed Dr. Abdul-Salam al-Shimari, the chief internist at the Baaquba Public Hospital, while he was driving to work as other American soldiers in a convoy had gunned down the manager and two female employees of a bank branch at Baghdad International Airport on the Airport road. (The unarmed, dead Iraqis would then be declared armed "criminals" before protests forced the U.S. military to withdraw the charge.) Similarly, an Afghan woman and two children were killed recently at a German checkpoint in Kunduz Province, as were two Afghan civilians by an errant NATO bomb.
In the tribal areas of Pakistan, a U.S. assault by helicopter on a village killed 20 civilians, according to the outraged provincial governor; and Pakistanis, mainly the relatives of a man identified as a Taliban commander, including one of his several wives, "his sister-in-law, a sister, two nieces, eight grandchildren and a male relative," were killed by missiles from a U.S. Predator drone.
This sort of "collateral damage" is an ongoing modern nightmare, which, unlike dead Amish girls or school shootings, does not fascinate either our media or, evidently, Americans generally. It seems we largely don't want to know about what happened, and generally speaking, that's lucky because the media isn't particularly interested in telling us. This is one reason the often absurd accounts sometimes offered by the U.S. military go relatively unchallenged -- as, fortunately, they did not in the case of the incident at Azizabad. Nonetheless, the Bush administration has been more than willing to accept "collateral damage" as an everyday matter in pursuing its Global War on Terror.
Of course, it matters what you value and what you dismiss as valueless. When you overvalue yourself and undervalue others, you naturally overestimate your own power and are remarkably blind to the potential power of others -- you underestimate them, that is. This might be said to be a reasonable summary of the short, bitter history of the Bush era.
In this way, not just Vice President Cheney but the President and his top officials have remained self-protectively embunkered throughout their years in office. The 60 or so children slaughtered in Azizabad, each of whom belonged to some family, don't matter to them. But they do matter. And when you kill them, and so many others like them, you surely play with fire.
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Show AllWe Can Stop The Bloodshed
"How?"
"We elect someone president who's going to work with Congress and us to dismantle Empire-USA, shutdown the CIA plus turning things around here at home."
"Otherwise?"
"Doomsday."
"Based on?"
"Perpetual war and global warming."
Name Your Game
‘Operation evening light’
for a ‘bold mariner’ without the ‘beacon torch’
all names that sound benign
like eleven past nine
but the ‘beacon star and ‘beacon torch’
don’t do benign
The ‘anvil’ and the ‘eagle claw’
are not for a bird of prey or for a blacksmith
The ‘prime chance’ of the ‘prayerful mantis’
the ‘grand slam’ of the ‘nimble archer’
name the names of operations
the life lifting ones
from the ‘tomahawk’ to the ‘arc light’
to the ‘steel tiger’ and ‘barrel roll’
the naming game, the mating game
not to mention.... the coveted warrior
go on the same.
Name your game
What is the toll in life and love
of all these operations?
Were they for revenge plunder or power?
Did they favor the will of a higher power?
for ‘infinite justice’ ain’t just for the chosen
just as operation ‘Just Cause’ named
the cause of the powered few
who clip coupons cause they can
and cause
they think they own the world
Here’s hoping for a new ‘Frequent Wind’
the welcome sound of evacuating choppers
in the new Babylon Bagdad green zone
so that the tangled web of the elite
will have new coupons to clip
the gated who of who’s
who finally realize that
war really is a bust.
Remember how Bush was posed in the flight suit on the air craft carrier deck?
How about his cutting the faux turkey for troops one Thanksgiving? How about all the "embedded" reporters and "generals on stage" giving their pre-paid opinions (all pro war/Bush policy) on key TV networks. Hey, it's ALL photo op, down to "My Pet Goat." If there are suspicions of an inside job, could anyone look more propped for innocence than the prez who reads storybooks to children?
WAGELABORER: On Solari.com, Catherine Fitts also shares that a LOT of important financial records were destroyed on Wall St on 911, ditto at the Pentagon and a WHOLE lotta $ has gone missing. Not just in Iraq, but also around HUD and bogus loans that align with this whole banking debacle. It's a mess of MANY layers, and LOTS of complicity on the part of would-be regulators and government insiders.
EZE: Love the "Conservative" data, however, ask an astrologer... lots of earth signs, strong emphasis on Virgo for order and "my way or the high way," and Capricorn (ruled by Saturn, the planet of old traditions), with strong Mars for a very overt EGO that can admit no point of view other than its own. I wish astrologers of good record were called in to get the birth data of the people in the study. If they had accurately predicted WHO from the chart pool tended towards conservative behaviors & character, it would be a good validation of this ancient and prescient ART.
These brave American soldiers probably always call in the air assult before visiting the site of the crime the next morning. This is because they're scared shitless to advance on any compound, and I don't blame them for being scared.
To show how far they will go to justify their atrocities, does anyone remember when the prisoners at Guantanamo killed themselves? The military commander called it an act of asymmetric warfare and said that they didn't value human life they way we do.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5068606.stm
Excellent article.
With McCain and even Obama, there isn't much to vote for, only something to vote against. Obama has devolved into merely the lesser of two American hegemonic evils. Pre-flipflop, Barack Obama seemed to be the right man, but his recent sucking up to the military industrial complex/corporate elite now has me doubting his candidacy, not to mention his sincerity.
If the world has to deal with Bush the sequel, John McCain, together with his sidekick Sarah “my god can beat up your god” Palin, we can expect more of the same mindless light on brains, heavy on bombs foreign policy.
The problem with the American populace is they still believe they are the good guys. They still view themselves as the cavalry, but they are in fact viewed as the hostile invaders, the belligerent occupiers and that which must be resisted.
As I see it, the Democratic Party is a lot like a box of chocolates; you’re never sure where the nuts are - whereas the Republican Party is a lot like a chocolate fudge sundae, they tend to put the biggest nuts on top.
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"the mark of 'the beast' is just a bad haircut"
Yes, the most disappointing thing about this is we all knew who John McCain was, a self-serving liar who will say anything to get elected, but watching Obama fall into MIC line right before our eyes has been disgusting. I was never an Obama-maniac and never thought he was a "progressive", but now it looks as if those early fringe doubters were right - he is not even "black" enough.
Excellent article.
With McCain and even Obama, there isn't much to vote for, only something to vote against. Obama has devolved into merely the lesser of two American hegemonic evils. Pre-flipflop, Barack Obama seemed to be the right man, but his recent sucking up to the military industrial complex/corporate elite now has me doubting his candidacy, not to mention his sincerity.
If the world has to deal with Bush the sequel, John McCain, together with his sidekick Sarah “my god can beat up your god” Palin, we can expect more of the same mindless light on brains, heavy on bombs foreign policy.
The problem with the American populace is they still believe they are the good guys. They still view themselves as the cavalry, but they are in fact viewed as the hostile invaders, the belligerent occupiers and that which must be resisted.
As I see it, the Democratic Party is a lot like a box of chocolates; you’re never sure where the nuts are - whereas the Republican Party is a lot like a chocolate fudge sundae, they tend to put the biggest nuts on top.
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"the mark of 'the beast' is just a bad haircut"
It's damned sad.
To Hamid Karzai, I say this: Be careful. Foreign leaders who resist the corporatocracy have accidents all the time. You've done okay. But so did Saddam Hussein and Manuel Noriega before they became enemies. You can never pay your bodyguards what the CIA could.
Obama and McSame talk about escalation in Afghanistan. One thing is certain: more kids will die at American hands.
Oh, another thing is certain, all those millions of voters who adore Sarah Failin' and Barockstar, won't shed one tear over those deaths, in fact, most of them never reading articles such as this fine one.
Barack Obama was for single payer before he came out against it.
These generals who lie and lie cannot be wholly blamed for their lies, depraved as they are. They are trying to do their job, but it's the job that's wrong. They shouldn't be there in Afghanistan trying to kill the Taliban. The U.S. has no business setting its fat ass down halfway around the world with the idea that it's going to "win" the "war on Terror". It's an idiotic notion on its face.
If we weren't over there taking their stuff, we wouldn't have the military murdering them. We could leave them to their own ways. In short, there would be peace. But our "liberty" (to make free with fossil fuels for our accustomed pursuits) means their terror at U.S. hands.
Our culture demands that we drive. It affects nearly all of us; even we on the left are guilty of driving prodigally to festivals, rallies, speeches, movies, parties, as well as to work in jobs remote from our homes.
Real peace requires ceasing to fill our tanks. Finding a life within walking, or biking, distance from home. Trains and busses use fuels to run. A shift in our basic arrangements is necessary, and certainly at a sacrifice of the wide options to which we have become accustomed. Because the most dangerous foreign policies afoot, which we abhor, are pursuant to securing access to petroleum resources. And it will continue as long as we keep filling our tanks. This is elementary,
If I were responsible for all the death and destruction they've accomplished in the years since 9/11, I'd be very afraid to venture out anywhere in the world. They must have some mega secure haven to scurry into come January - or maybe they just plan slip down to that bunker under all that rock that Cheney has hidden in so many times. "Oh, Rand al'Thor, keep watch so you can put the seals back in place!"
You know, this excellent article refreshes a memory. Seven years ago I was watching my daughter at dance practice one day, we moms and dads had little metal chairs to perch on in front of a big glass window for our viewing pleasure, while our daughters and sons learned the one two's of jazz etc. There was this group of moms, self described soccer moms or hockey moms, something like that. Well they would sit and gossip, and I generally ignored them, really I just cannot get into that kind of discussion. But one day not long after Sept. 11th, while we were preparing for war with Iraq one of those hockey moms said something I will never forget. It went like this, 'God, I'm so tired of hearing about the people who oppose this war, I think we should get in there and get rid of all those people for once and for all. Kill every man woman and child.' I kid you not, I was literally shaking with outrage, and at that time, I did not say anything. Oh if I could time travel! As I said this was seven years ago, and I just was afraid of being called a traitor to my country and the backlash against my daughter...dance is a very social event. But I glared at every one of them, and they knew regardless that I thought they were all scum because everyone of those mother nodded and agreed with that womans summation. Anyways, this hockey moms wishes came true and are still coming true. How many people in America, recovering from the anguish and rage over Sept. 11th had those same thoughts, how many politicians? Are we done yet? But as time unfolds and this nightmare goes on, I cannot help but wonder what future societies will think of this nation, are we deluding ourselves that this war on terror is anything short of Hitlers war on Jews? I don't normally have such thoughts, but this article brought them on.
The same thing happened to me. I was talking to a coworker and she said that we should kill all the Muslims.
I pointed out that there were a billion Muslims, thinking that if she realized the magnitude of what she was saying, she would back down. No. She said that we should kill a billion people!
On 9-11, I didn't have any desire to kill anyone in revenge, because the ones responsible for it died in the attacks.
(I now know that the ones responsible are in control of our government. I'm talking about what I thought on 9-11)
I had a similar experience on a business trip in the last year. I was having a few late night beers with our sales staff, and suddenly one of them started talking about how they thought we should just go over there and kill them all. I guess the only concession to reality was that now he was saying that this would take two or three generations.
I had the same reaction. He was obviously calling for the massacre of millions of people. And it was obvious to me that an America that followed this course would be regarded as one of the worst rogue nations in history. Both Hitler and Stalin came to mind as comparisons.
Of course, if Obama wins, we are still on this course. He's basically promising to keep the troops in Iraq longer than Bush is promising Maliki that they'll stay. And the 'return to the bases' strategy that Obama and the Dems favor mean more of exactly this type of air-strikes on civilians. Its a strategy that cuts American losses at the cost of higher innocent civilian deaths. And of course, since this article references Afghanistan, its important to note that Obama is promising to rev up that war, commit more troops, and 'win' it (whatever that means). And of course, Obama promises to expand the war to Pakistan, and is equally as strong on committing the US to war with Iran as Bush\McCain.
Obama has made it quite plain he agrees with those soccer moms, and has equal distain for anyone who's anti-war. I watched him send the riot police out to block the antiwar marches in Denver from getting anywhere near his coronation.
We can stop this. But one thing we have to realize is that the Democrats support this sort of mass murder, and that to stop it we have to stop voting Democrat.
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"To know, and not to do, is not to know"
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"We have to stop voting Democrat."
I was just thinking that very thought except some part of me balks at abandoning the ship to the impostors, or to quote Barak, to the "phonies".
As I said in another post in regards to acclaimed "Christians" to which I will add acclaimed Democrats;
"Individuals claiming to be believers or representatives of any faith or political affiliation must be judged by their actions in relation to that faith or political affiliation, not by the actions that they unblinkingly use the label to defend."
"But one thing we have to realize is that the Democrats support this sort of mass murder" Democrats do not support mass murder, Warmongers and murderers and evil people support mass murders.
Lets call a spade a spade.
What we might have to do I think is discriminate between real and false democrats.
Then vote the real democrats in. This discernment seems to be elusive.
Leea, I wanted to nuke somebody on 9/11 and I'm a pacifist. Many of us felt helpless and wanted to lash out at somebody, anybody, for revenge. In most thinking and feeling human beings that primal urge passed quickly. In the neocon Republicans and their puppet Bush and leader Cheney it became a means to create a raging fire and the bellows from their hatred fanned the embers of unfocussed hate which lingered burning in many American breasts, and still, unfortunately, does.
Yeah,
sigh
Gee Tom you forgot to mention the lives lost in collateral damage on 9/11. All who died were civilians.Did we bring collateral damage to birth in Dresden and indelibly in the worlds mind with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.What goes around comes around.
peace
Interesting to watch the propaganda myth of 9-11 morph and change. For instance, this post claiming 'all who died were civilians'.
Actually, no. For one thing, the Pentagon was attacked at the same time. There were members of the US military who died there. And, in the world trade center I think was a CIA station. And also some other US federal police agencies.
That's the obvious ones of course. If you read a book like 'Confessions of an economic hit man', you might learn how the US has used debt to control other countries since the 1950's. A fair number of the civilians who died in the WTC were a part of that process. In an empire that has used other means than the military to assert control since WWII, it becomes an interesting discussion of exactly who is a civilian.
Don't take this as me supporting these attacks. I am a pacifist. Enough of one that even on 9-11 I wasn't thinking of nuking anyone. I think any attack that kills thousands is horrible. But, its interesting how the propaganda myth continues to grow and morph.
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"To know, and not to do, is not to know"
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Actually, Samson, the part of the Pentagon that was hit was undergoing construction. Mostly civilian workers were killed. The "hijacker" had to fly the plane in a 330 degree turn to hit that part, since the plane was coming in on the side of the Pentagon where the top brass, including Rumsfield, was. We couldn't have that, now could we? So the plane went around and came into the other side.
A lot of people killed in the World Trade Center were regular workers, although Goldman Sachs took a direct hit, killing hundreds of its employees. Interestingly, Goldman Sachs contributed more to Democrats than any other trading company.
The CIA station was in World Trade #7. No one died from the collapse of that building.
I'm not sure of your point regarding the exact location of where the planes hit, but it made me think of my once having had lunch at Windows on the World, inside the WTC, and I realized that had they done their dirty work a few hours later a whole lot more people would have been there, would have died. I have no idea of the import or meaning of this observation on the timing but still I find it.... interesting.
&YYY&
All the governments technology and men, cannot win a clean victory again.
No victories are ever touted , only civilians get killed and routed.
There is not enough justification for the occupation, just to save face for the VS nation.
Making every soldier a filthy tool, that Bush and Cheney use to appear cool.
When its a real fight , you can tell, because its the VS soldiers that die so well.
When the death rate goes on a bender, its because the VS soldiers do not allow surrender,
Of mothers and children and the old, who in scores are shot to bits by the bold.
The Vampire States feeds on all the blood, struts the world and calls itself good.
nice poem
It doesn't rhyme.
Conservatives are usually cowards, ruled by fear and reaction. They are Mammon, the beast that lives within us.
ez-i think you give conservatives a bit of a bad rap here. There are alot of true conservatives who don't like all this war crap one little bit. Check out antiwar.com
Conservatives Deconstructed
by Joel Bleifuss
In These Times magazine, October 2003
Are they nuts?
Have you ever wondered about those ubiquitous conservatives?
Why do they support tax breaks for the rich when so many of their fellow citizens are in dire straits? Why do they applaud John Ashcroft and his post-9/11 curtailment of civil liberties? Why do they oppose laws that address historic wrongs and enforce constitutionally guaranteed rights? Why do they respond to a societal drug problem with incarceration and expanded prison construction? Why do they gut regulations that are meant to protect the environment? Why do they invest more than half of our tax dollars in the military? Why are they so meanspirited? In other words, why do conservatives do what they do? Are they nuts?
No, not according to a fascinating new study in Psychological Bulletin, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition." Conservatives do, however, possess certain psychological traits and motives that no one in their right (or is that left?) mind would want to share.
The study's four authors, John T. Jost, Jack Glaser, Arie W. Kruglanski, and Frank J. Sulloway, write, "People embrace political conservatism (at least in part) because it serves to reduce fear, anxiety and uncertainty; to avoid change, disruption and ambiguity; and to explain, order and justify inequality among groups and individuals." To come to this conclusion the authors examined 88 different psychological studies conducted between 1958 and 2002 that involved 22,818 people from 12 different countries. They boiled that information down into a number of psychological attributes that are closely associated with people who are politically conservative.
Rigid and closed-minded
"Dogmatism has been found to correlate consistently with authoritarianism, political-economic conservatism, and the holding of right wing opinions," write the authors. Conversely, studies have found that conservatives in general have little tolerance for ambiguity. A fact that helps in decoding this statement that George W. Bush made in Genoa, Italy: "I know what I believe and I believe what I believe is right."
Such thinking could explain why the Bush administration officials ignored those intelligence reports that failed to support going to war with Iraq. "[Conservatives'] intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic clichés and stereotypes," write the authors.
Numerous studies have also shown that conservative policymakers entertain less cognitively complex thoughts than their liberal or moderate counterparts. A study of speeches made in the House of Commons in 1984 found that "the most integratively complex politicians were moderate socialists." Their complexity of thought was found to be significantly higher than that of extreme socialists, moderate conservatives or extreme conservatives. Similarly, in the United States, a study of speeches on the floor of the Senate in 1975 and 1976 found that senators with liberal or moderate voting records exhibited significantly more complex thinking than their conservative counterparts.
That explains a lot, doesn't it. Bush again comes to mind. As he told a British reporter, "Look, my job isn't to try to nuance. My job is to tell people what I think."
Further studies show that conservatives have been found to shun new, stimulating experiences and to avoid situations where the outcome is uncertain.
The authors write that the fact that conservatives are "less tolerant of ambiguity, less open to new experiences, and more avoidant of uncertainty. may help explain why "congressional Republicans and other prominent conservatives in the United States have sought unilaterally to eliminate public funding for the contemporary arts."
From an early age, conservatives demonstrate a personal need for order and structure. One study has shown that conservative teens are more likely to say they are "neat, orderly and organized" than are liberal adolescents. The authors note that this desire for set rules correlates with the examples of mental rigidity mentioned above, and can be seen in the political realm when conservatives attempt to order their own and other's lives by advocating drug testing, core educational curriculum, controls on people with AIDS, and strict parental control of children.
Impulsively aggressive
R.A. Altemeyer, a psychologist who has extensively studied people with right-wing beliefs, has observed:
[Right-wing authoritarians] see the world as a dangerous place, as society teeters on the brink of self-destruction from evil and violence. This fear appears to instigate aggression in them. Second, right-wing authoritarians tend to be highly self righteous. They think themselves much more moral and upstanding than others - a self perception considerably aided by self-deception.... This self-righteousness disinhibits their aggressive impulses and releases them to act out their fear-induced hostilities.
George Will seems steeped in that fear. To illustrate that point the authors quote this passage from an essay by Will: "Conservatives know the world is a dark and forbidding place where most new knowledge is false, most improvements are for the worse." Psychological studies back Will up. People with right-wing personalities hold more pessimistic views and left-wing personalities hold more optimistic ones. And that pessimism and optimism appears to inform how conservatives and liberals view their fellow humans. A 1984 survey of "emotional reactions to welfare recipients" found that conservatives "expressed greater disgust and less sympathy" than liberals.
While this propensity of conservatives to be threatened and fearful does not appear to induce neurotic behavior, one study of dream lives discovered that Republicans had three times as many nightmares as Democrats, indicating that fear, anger and aggression might be a factor in the subconscious motivations of conservatives.
The authors speculate that this susceptibility to fear "may help explain why military defense spending and support for national security receive much stronger backing from conservative than liberal political leaders."
Afraid of loss
It has long been known that conservatives resist change while progressives accept change. Indeed, according to studies, this is the most common way that people from both groups self-define themselves.
"To the extent that conservatives are especially sensitive to the possibilities of loss-one reason why they wish to preserve the status quo-it follows that they should be generally more motivated by negatively framed outcomes (potential losses) than by positively framed outcomes (potential gains)."
Consequently, conservatives respond better to threats.
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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Society/Conservatives_Deconstruct.html
Conservatives? They want order and fear the new. Yes, it does sound like them. But Neo-Cons? What about them, the ones who want new wars, new adventures in death, chaos and destruction? I'd really like to read about them because they aren't conservatives at all and they are the ones who are in charge these days.
When Cheney finally slithers off his mortal coil, his corpse should be fitted with an ABC suit and gas mask, placed in a grave 300 feet deep, under solid bedrock, with a marker stating 'Lies. At rest'
Dont forget the stake through his heart.......oh wait.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
or "At Last".
I just played (DVR) Jane Mayer on "The Dark Side" last night--terrifying!!!!!!Impeach Bush/Cheney
The opening story of this article brings this scenario to mind - I posted it late on one of yesterday's 9/11 discussions, but you may not have seen it. My apologies if it's a repeat for you.
An often overlooked question about 9/11 is the extremely strange situation surrounding the President of the USA that day. For purposes of this exercise, ignore the fact that Bush was the President and Cheney the VP of the USA on 9/11. Try to imagine someone you admire in those positions, if possible.
Now, it's 9/10/2001. Air Force One is at a Florida airport, having brought our President there for some photo ops on education. It is reported (the next day) that some suspicious "Arab reporters" without proper credentials are snooping around AF1 trying to get an interview with the president. AF1 remains on the tarmac and the president's agenda is not changed. No follow-up on the suspicious "reporters" is apparently undertaken.
9/11. Two aircraft crash into the WTC towers in NYC; other aircraft are rumored to be off course. There is a general panic. Our Vice-President is immediately hustled into a secret reinforced bunker beneath Washington DC. Our President is in a motorcade headed for a public school in Florida. The motorcade, amazingly, continues. Eventually our President is allowed to sit in a non-secure classroom while the country is apparently crumbling around him. No Secret Service Agents throw themselves on him and usher him out of the school and into protective custody despite his protestations; they all just watch him sit there. After the photo-op, the President and his party all pile into the motorcade and head back to the supposedly compromised AF1. After it takes off, we are told AF1 itself is a target of the terrorists who are now "known" to have attacked NYC. The VP has been safely in a bunker for over an hour while our President has been a sitting duck in an open school classroom.
Now go back to the envisioning Bush and Cheney in their appropriate roles. Cheney has been secured, sequestered and under guard while Bush has been left in the open and returned to AF1, which is considered a target. Did Cheney plan to have Bush go down with the towers that day, allowing him to take over the country and send us to war as we mourned our "martyred" Commander-in-Chief, or was it merely unbelievable incompetence by the Secret Service, an agency never known to err on the side of caution? You make the call.
Maybe they did it to scare Bush into submission, into going along with the plan.
I don't think Bush was in on the planning of 9-11. He's too stupid. So something had to be done to get him in on the coverup and war plans.
Not that I think that he would put up any fuss. "It would be a lot easier if this were a dictatorship. As long as I am dictator"
"I don't think Bush was in on the planning of 9-11. He's too stupid."
Probably couldn't be trusted to keep his yap shut either. Aside from pointing out how stupid Bush looked trying to read "My Pet Goat", I've never seen a discussion of this aspect of 9/11 appear in "conspiracy" sites. I mean, buildings are falling, airplanes are unaccounted for, the VP is already long underground, and the President is left out in the open? Something is rotten there.
Maybe they knew he was safe because they knew which targets "they" were attacking, and it was not the school house.
They of course is not the official "they".
Well another option in the conspiracy theory is that if the other attacks were not successful, then they would have done in the president. Which would explain this scenario quite well.
These kinds of repeating bombings and killings of innocent civilians will only continue to strengthen the Taliban and Al Quaida just like Iraq. Will China just hit the FORECLOSURE SWITCH already ?
But that is exactly the idea behind this entire war. Keep those like SnowWolf salivating for the blood of more and more victims, keep the public in fear of "terrorism" and the Imperial Presidency is easily created and nurtured.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Of course the killings and cover ups will increase violent opposition and deadly resitance to both UN and US military and civilian workers. ANY coutry such killings and cover up would occur in, including the country that the offenders are from would have surge in violent opposition!
I'm from the southeastern part of the US and I can tell you if a non-US (UN like) or US military operation were kill a bunch of rural militant Chrirstian rednecks and/or their family members at a wedding party that there would be, NO DOUBT in my mind, a group of armed pissed off people that would seek deadly revenge against the offending nation for several generations to come.
There won’t be a foreclosure. Chinese firms are buying up American businesses with all the trade surplus money they are making. It won’t directly affect you or me. America is already dominated by international corporations that know no allegiance to any king or country. So you may not even notice the difference, accept that the political bribes will come more from, perhaps Shanghai instead of Dubai.
Ah, thanks. I did find more info on that. I might add that the Saudi royals and Dubai are choking up the American stocks these days lock stock and barrel. Trade didn't have to go this bad. All told though, the country is disintegrating from within than from outside. Like Rome, the enemies will cash in except that this time there's no guns but "capital" that's doing the magic. Terrible, just terrible.
Our "enemies" are the multinational corporations that are destroying lives and ruining the planet. Whether they are owned by Americans or Chinese or Saudi is irrelevant.
Nationalism is over for the ruling classes. We need to get over it, also.
Workers of the world, unite!
I thought that slaughtering our way to victory for Jesus was The American Family Value. I can hardly wait for the End Times so we can all see George riding up to Heaven on his pet goat.