1. REFUSE to support ANY member of the Corporate political parties.
You do not need to be confrontational.
You need to show integrity.
Walk away from the deceivers.
You have better things to do.
Posted by Mark A. Goldman
Jan 27 2012 - 12:29pm
So this discussion talks about, but does not resolve, the question the title suggests it does. Chris is right when he says that US education teaches people what to think rather than how to think. This means that the revolution that is necessary needs to begin not with corporations but with individual citizens. A movement will not solve the problem unless those who participate in that movement have first transformed themselves into entities who have enlightened insight into how to be loving and responsible human beings. Civil disobedience is not going to work unless those who are disobedient also know what they want to accomplish. A Constitutional convention will only produce new constitutional articles that reflect the consciousness of those who offer amendments and vote for them. And if we did that today, who knows where that might lead. So we are still talking around the issue without really having identified what to do next that would lead to a desired and enlightened result. If The People do not know how to be fully functional, spiritually awake, morally enlightened, and courageously motivated citizens, we will not have a democracy Of, By, and For The People. (see http://www.gpln.com)
Posted by old goat
Jan 27 2012 - 1:50pm
Brilliant conversation - thank you YES!, Chris hedges, and Lawrence Lessig AND COMMON DREAMS!! yo - and shout-out to Occupy!
Awakening is an energizing and liberating emergence. Fearless observations shedding the calcified imposition of fear and division. The very powerful observation that we are now dealing with the failure of the state is actually a sacred light shining through the fissures. It is the light of diversity, in which we become collaborative, creative explorers, contributing engagement of our innate skills in activities that come straight from heart, mind and muscle. Instead of fear there is the door of gentle resolve, humility, clear and full of vitality - marathon, long haul quality engagement.
Being aware of prison labor, the sliding scale of labor analogous to slavery, here and abroad by oligarchic practices needs ongoing shining of documentation light. The power of being aware of the extent of abuse - literally genocidal, ecocidal, ethnocidal - SEEING the extent of this is something that is well under way.
Revival calls for an evolutionary rupture from the perpetually deferred promises (lies), the politics of the consummate fact, as well as was noted the development of parallel structures some already in place with the likes of the Transition Movement and so many others. What is healthy is universal, diverse, exponentially strengthening, eminently sharable and remedy to the extractive predatory development model.
Posted by esabi
Jan 27 2012 - 3:02pm
Thank you, Old Goat. Words of wisdom.
Posted by Simonsez
Jan 27 2012 - 6:45pm
Right on Target!!!!............as far as it goes.........insane plutocracys goal appears to be US world -wide corporate-wise supremacy politically and economically and militarily.towards majority "ownership" of the world economy .....global economy...etc.......has to be linked into......all the dots connected...to the ultimate enabling power source: the slavishly followed foreign policy MANIFSESTO ennunicated by the neocons in 1999.......the Project for the New American Century.....being pushed to the limit by utilizing the Shock Doctrine of the catastrophe of 9/11---false flag operation or not is actually beyond the point---the policy of institutionalising ongoing continuing wars.....ie, the War on Terrorism without end...heralded by the Pentagon, the CIA the Congress and the Media in concert.....has as its end goal a world wide hemonogenic US EMPIRE.........irrational hubris of Exceptionalism gone bonkers!........China, Russia, India, (the Shanghi Pact nations increasingly beg to differ with this scenario.
Posted by Parallax
Jan 27 2012 - 2:15pm
Send this link to everyone on your contact list cuz it aint going to be aired on the MSM.
Posted by Jim Glover
Jan 27 2012 - 5:41pm
I like it!
Posted by iwonder
Jan 27 2012 - 6:28pm
Chris Hedges gets it. The real proof that the takeover by the corporate state is almost complete, is that their actions are so blatant and in your face now. The looting of the economy, and the total disconnect of government action from the will of the people, is so obvious that even the payed for media is having a hard time continuing the farce of representative government. We now have government by and for the Corporate State.
Posted by port_lookout
Jan 27 2012 - 7:59pm
Sorry boys, I think it a mistake for you not to also propose the building of a viable progressive party (difficult though that might be). Not having progressive opposition at the polls pleases the 1% immensely.
They can easily break up demonstrations and occupations, but a mass movement to a truly populist party will give them pause.
Rejection of the voting alternative did not work to better life in the US in the 60s and 70s, but voting did help to defeat Scandinavia's ruling oligarchs long ago (http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/01/26-3) and those in most of South America recently.
Giving the population worthy people to vote for, who have a chance to win, is one of the most worthwhile things we can do. Or would you rather have them continue to vote for greater and lesser evils forever?
Posted by Catunderahat
Jan 27 2012 - 11:05pm
THE ART OF WAR just a suggestion.
I personally do not like the term “Civil Disobedience” The laws are no longer Obedient to the Constitution…So I suggest rather individual withdrawal from the system as practiced by Shunning.
No one need join a group or have a consensus except that the democratic process be redeveloped and evolved past this incident in time. Rather than say we are the victims use the laws that are now available…..Corporations are now people…Why bother telling them they are not? Embrace that! We can now treat them as such….We now have the ability to remove them to concentration camps and keep them there until we can sort out how responsible they are for there actions…We now have plenty of time to do that by LAW unencumbered by due process. They have built these prisoner of war camps with our taxes, have they not?
Every soldier, every state and federal worker, every state and local police force are part of WE THE PEOPLE. Every person working for corporations are supporting the destruction of the whole world. They must know this and have tools to maintain there lives as they take back their power as individuals… Shunning can take as many forms as one has imagination. Each individual need not march in the street or sit in the cold or be dragged off to jail…If this is where you feel your best interest is however do so because all acts have value and purpose as the reorganization is progressing..
Occupy if you must but do not become an opinion only be a presence…Opinions are too easily set against each other and canceled out. Silence is an amazing power. Very grounding….Your brothers “The peace keepers”, can wear masks over their faces and protective armor. Why not? If we are to have a nation of spooks and goblins on the one side then why not on the other?
You cannot be divided if you are not bound. Maintain yourselves as a free expression and respect all life” They can send in their whores and seed your protests with “Genetically Molested Humans” Those Judas goats that for a few pieces of silver sell out there own and think themselves grand. With nothing to push against, in silent stillness, it will be easy to find those fools
Give yourself a way to act with reason. Reduce your savings. Don’t use your credit cards. Barter with neighbors. Use less, become more! Learn a skill, practice an art. Withdraw the “O Holy Buck from the mouth of the Beast. See your dollar as your only vote. Understand that cash, credit, interest and debt are shackles they yank you with. Encourage your children to think and when that thought is not as you would prefer back off respect it. Learn more. If you work for the government …relax…slow down…do less …what’s the hurry? It’s just a rat wheel and you are the rat. Look into your core understanding of what you fear and why…. If you’re a soldier rethink your honor…Is not a soldier only a flesh bullet for old men to use? Question the authority that says they have the right to make a man of you. Aren't you sure, check your birth records, it will have your gender clearly described. Is pecking order the way a man truly lives, or is it the rule for the brute and the bully? Study what it means to be a warrior. Knowing how to kill, and how to live, understanding, who is your enemy and who is not, deciding for yourself when someone must die and when to withhold the sword, and most important KNOW WHY YOU HAVE ACTED OR NOT,. Taking full responsibility for both.
Police take back your authority to serve and protect the people, and you will find them at your shoulder. Copy, read and study the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Carry them in you heart with every encounter. Know that some of us understand you are daily surrounded by the least of humanity and it is difficult to separate us after a while. Recognize that all the pomp and costuming will not gain you respect. You stand for not the law of thieves and corruptions but for the boundary between those things and civilization itself.
Religions teach peace with diversity. Support your flock to be self sufficient and interdependent and respect all others as also loved by the creation or creator.
Teachers……learn to think…then teach.
I suggest that each citizen of this republic feel powerful in inventing ways to shun the beast. No leaders, No followers, No target. Do what you can. As the support beneath the “self-crowned creepers” withdraws they will come round to more sensible behavior, as they hit the ground on their feet or their backs as they choose.
So we have been told to fear…..Fear the practitioner who will inoculate you with slow death. Fear the pilot who sprays your community with slow death, Fear the driver who trucks poison to your water and slow death. Fear the police who take your liberty for the master’s game…Fear the neighbors beside you because they are different …fear the hacker who spoils your computer. FEAR THE DARK WE MAY BECOME… Do you see? You fear yourselves…they are. Small cowardly creatures missing human qualities and they have made you in their image. Now you destroy each other as they watch the circus. We have been made dogs in a pit for there entertainment…stop thinking of the silly Matrix Movie that leaves you impotent to your own salvation, longing to crawl back into the womb. Think more in the way of Fight Club with the final scene as metaphor.
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Show All1. REFUSE to support ANY member of the Corporate political parties.
You do not need to be confrontational.
You need to show integrity.
Walk away from the deceivers.
You have better things to do.
So this discussion talks about, but does not resolve, the question the title suggests it does. Chris is right when he says that US education teaches people what to think rather than how to think. This means that the revolution that is necessary needs to begin not with corporations but with individual citizens. A movement will not solve the problem unless those who participate in that movement have first transformed themselves into entities who have enlightened insight into how to be loving and responsible human beings. Civil disobedience is not going to work unless those who are disobedient also know what they want to accomplish. A Constitutional convention will only produce new constitutional articles that reflect the consciousness of those who offer amendments and vote for them. And if we did that today, who knows where that might lead. So we are still talking around the issue without really having identified what to do next that would lead to a desired and enlightened result. If The People do not know how to be fully functional, spiritually awake, morally enlightened, and courageously motivated citizens, we will not have a democracy Of, By, and For The People. (see http://www.gpln.com)
Brilliant conversation - thank you YES!, Chris hedges, and Lawrence Lessig AND COMMON DREAMS!! yo - and shout-out to Occupy!
Awakening is an energizing and liberating emergence. Fearless observations shedding the calcified imposition of fear and division. The very powerful observation that we are now dealing with the failure of the state is actually a sacred light shining through the fissures. It is the light of diversity, in which we become collaborative, creative explorers, contributing engagement of our innate skills in activities that come straight from heart, mind and muscle. Instead of fear there is the door of gentle resolve, humility, clear and full of vitality - marathon, long haul quality engagement.
Being aware of prison labor, the sliding scale of labor analogous to slavery, here and abroad by oligarchic practices needs ongoing shining of documentation light. The power of being aware of the extent of abuse - literally genocidal, ecocidal, ethnocidal - SEEING the extent of this is something that is well under way.
Revival calls for an evolutionary rupture from the perpetually deferred promises (lies), the politics of the consummate fact, as well as was noted the development of parallel structures some already in place with the likes of the Transition Movement and so many others. What is healthy is universal, diverse, exponentially strengthening, eminently sharable and remedy to the extractive predatory development model.
Thank you, Old Goat. Words of wisdom.
Right on Target!!!!............as far as it goes.........insane plutocracys goal appears to be US world -wide corporate-wise supremacy politically and economically and militarily.towards majority "ownership" of the world economy .....global economy...etc.......has to be linked into......all the dots connected...to the ultimate enabling power source: the slavishly followed foreign policy MANIFSESTO ennunicated by the neocons in 1999.......the Project for the New American Century.....being pushed to the limit by utilizing the Shock Doctrine of the catastrophe of 9/11---false flag operation or not is actually beyond the point---the policy of institutionalising ongoing continuing wars.....ie, the War on Terrorism without end...heralded by the Pentagon, the CIA the Congress and the Media in concert.....has as its end goal a world wide hemonogenic US EMPIRE.........irrational hubris of Exceptionalism gone bonkers!........China, Russia, India, (the Shanghi Pact nations increasingly beg to differ with this scenario.
Send this link to everyone on your contact list cuz it aint going to be aired on the MSM.
I like it!
Chris Hedges gets it. The real proof that the takeover by the corporate state is almost complete, is that their actions are so blatant and in your face now. The looting of the economy, and the total disconnect of government action from the will of the people, is so obvious that even the payed for media is having a hard time continuing the farce of representative government. We now have government by and for the Corporate State.
Sorry boys, I think it a mistake for you not to also propose the building of a viable progressive party (difficult though that might be). Not having progressive opposition at the polls pleases the 1% immensely.
They can easily break up demonstrations and occupations, but a mass movement to a truly populist party will give them pause.
Rejection of the voting alternative did not work to better life in the US in the 60s and 70s, but voting did help to defeat Scandinavia's ruling oligarchs long ago (http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/01/26-3) and those in most of South America recently.
Giving the population worthy people to vote for, who have a chance to win, is one of the most worthwhile things we can do. Or would you rather have them continue to vote for greater and lesser evils forever?
THE ART OF WAR just a suggestion.
I personally do not like the term “Civil Disobedience” The laws are no longer Obedient to the Constitution…So I suggest rather individual withdrawal from the system as practiced by Shunning.
No one need join a group or have a consensus except that the democratic process be redeveloped and evolved past this incident in time. Rather than say we are the victims use the laws that are now available…..Corporations are now people…Why bother telling them they are not? Embrace that! We can now treat them as such….We now have the ability to remove them to concentration camps and keep them there until we can sort out how responsible they are for there actions…We now have plenty of time to do that by LAW unencumbered by due process. They have built these prisoner of war camps with our taxes, have they not?
Every soldier, every state and federal worker, every state and local police force are part of WE THE PEOPLE. Every person working for corporations are supporting the destruction of the whole world. They must know this and have tools to maintain there lives as they take back their power as individuals… Shunning can take as many forms as one has imagination. Each individual need not march in the street or sit in the cold or be dragged off to jail…If this is where you feel your best interest is however do so because all acts have value and purpose as the reorganization is progressing..
Occupy if you must but do not become an opinion only be a presence…Opinions are too easily set against each other and canceled out. Silence is an amazing power. Very grounding….Your brothers “The peace keepers”, can wear masks over their faces and protective armor. Why not? If we are to have a nation of spooks and goblins on the one side then why not on the other?
You cannot be divided if you are not bound. Maintain yourselves as a free expression and respect all life” They can send in their whores and seed your protests with “Genetically Molested Humans” Those Judas goats that for a few pieces of silver sell out there own and think themselves grand. With nothing to push against, in silent stillness, it will be easy to find those fools
Give yourself a way to act with reason. Reduce your savings. Don’t use your credit cards. Barter with neighbors. Use less, become more! Learn a skill, practice an art. Withdraw the “O Holy Buck from the mouth of the Beast. See your dollar as your only vote. Understand that cash, credit, interest and debt are shackles they yank you with. Encourage your children to think and when that thought is not as you would prefer back off respect it. Learn more. If you work for the government …relax…slow down…do less …what’s the hurry? It’s just a rat wheel and you are the rat. Look into your core understanding of what you fear and why…. If you’re a soldier rethink your honor…Is not a soldier only a flesh bullet for old men to use? Question the authority that says they have the right to make a man of you. Aren't you sure, check your birth records, it will have your gender clearly described. Is pecking order the way a man truly lives, or is it the rule for the brute and the bully? Study what it means to be a warrior. Knowing how to kill, and how to live, understanding, who is your enemy and who is not, deciding for yourself when someone must die and when to withhold the sword, and most important KNOW WHY YOU HAVE ACTED OR NOT,. Taking full responsibility for both.
Police take back your authority to serve and protect the people, and you will find them at your shoulder. Copy, read and study the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Carry them in you heart with every encounter. Know that some of us understand you are daily surrounded by the least of humanity and it is difficult to separate us after a while. Recognize that all the pomp and costuming will not gain you respect. You stand for not the law of thieves and corruptions but for the boundary between those things and civilization itself.
Religions teach peace with diversity. Support your flock to be self sufficient and interdependent and respect all others as also loved by the creation or creator.
Teachers……learn to think…then teach.
I suggest that each citizen of this republic feel powerful in inventing ways to shun the beast. No leaders, No followers, No target. Do what you can. As the support beneath the “self-crowned creepers” withdraws they will come round to more sensible behavior, as they hit the ground on their feet or their backs as they choose.
So we have been told to fear…..Fear the practitioner who will inoculate you with slow death. Fear the pilot who sprays your community with slow death, Fear the driver who trucks poison to your water and slow death. Fear the police who take your liberty for the master’s game…Fear the neighbors beside you because they are different …fear the hacker who spoils your computer. FEAR THE DARK WE MAY BECOME… Do you see? You fear yourselves…they are. Small cowardly creatures missing human qualities and they have made you in their image. Now you destroy each other as they watch the circus. We have been made dogs in a pit for there entertainment…stop thinking of the silly Matrix Movie that leaves you impotent to your own salvation, longing to crawl back into the womb. Think more in the way of Fight Club with the final scene as metaphor.
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