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Date: August 14, 1998 1:41 pm
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Handgun Control Inc. Report on 'Have Gun, Will Travel' Amendment
WASHINGTON - August 14 - The following was released
today by Handgun Control Inc.:
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CONCEALED DANGER: Evaluating the Potential Impact of the "Have
Gun, Will Travel" Amendment
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Nearly 3,000,000 people will be able to carry concealed handguns
across state lines and into most states if Congress passes the "Have
Gun, Will Travel" Amendment to H.R. 218, according to data released
today by Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI). The amendment, introduced by
Rep. Bill McCollum (R-FL), was approved by the House Judiciary
Committee on August 5, 1998; the full House of Representatives is
expected to vote on the entire bill when Congress reconvenes in
September.
The passage of this Amendment is particularly ironic, coming as it
does only a few weeks after an Illinois resident -- who had been
involuntarily committed to a mental institution in Montana --
allegedly brought his gun halfway across the country, ultimately to
murder two Capitol Hill police officers. Despite Congress' demands
for more expensive security installations to protect their own lives
and safety, the members of the Judiciary Committee found it expedient
to make interstate gun carrying even easier for thousands of
potential security risks.
In an effort to evaluate the potential impact of the "Have Gun,
Will Travel" Amendment, Handgun Control, Inc. collected data about
the number of licenses to carry concealed weapons that have been
issued in 40 states. (These are the states that allow the carrying
of concealed weapons and for which statistical data was reasonably
accessible. Because statewide data was not available for Georgia,
New Hampshire and Vermont, which all allow the carrying of concealed
weapons, it can be assumed that the actual number of license holders
nationwide is larger than this report estimates.) HCI researchers
found that an estimated total of 2,903,502 licenses to carry
concealed handguns have been issued in the 40 states for which data
was available.
With few exceptions, it is currently illegal for licensees
to carry concealed handguns out of the state that issued the
license. If this amendment becomes law, however, it would allow
all licensees to carry concealed handguns in at least 29 other
states across the country. The legislation would mandate
unrestricted reciprocity between 28 states that allow anyone who
does not fall into a prohibited category (such as a convicted felon)
to get a license to carry a concealed handgun (1). Reciprocity
would also apply to Vermont, where it is not necessary to obtain
a license to carry a concealed gun.
The "Have Gun, Will Travel" Amendment could also supersede state
laws in 14 states that have strict standards and police discretion in
issuing concealed-carry licenses to residents (2). These states give
local law enforcement discretion in issuing licenses and usually
require applicants to demonstrate a specific need to carry a
concealed handgun. This amendment would allow the Governors of each
of these 14 states to sign a waiver to allow out-of-state licensees
to carry a concealed gun in the state, even if the standards for
granting licenses are weaker in the licensees' home state than in the
states with much stricter standards.
The "Have Gun, Will Travel" Amendment could potentially impact all
states except the seven that prohibit the carrying of concealed
handguns (3).
Millions of people roaming the country with concealed handguns
would pose a danger to all affected states, but certain states would
be particularly vulnerable. For example, in 1997 alone, 46.9 million
tourists entered the State of Florida, according to Visit Florida, a
state tourism agency. Florida is just one of many states with a
large tourism industry which would be required to grant full
reciprocity to concealed weapons licensees from other states.
Ironically, Florida Governor Chiles' recently vetoed similar state
legislation. Utah, which will host the 2002 Olympics, would also be
affected.
Furthermore, state concealed-carry laws vary greatly. Texas, for
instance, would also be required to grant full reciprocity, but it
has far stricter standards for eligibility to carry a concealed
handgun than most of the other states that fall into that category.
Texas has strict residency, safety training and background check
requirements. The "Have Gun, Will Travel" Amendment would undermine
these standards, allowing millions of licensees with no safety
training, no knowledge of Texas law, and who have undergone less
thorough background checks to carry concealed handguns in Texas.
Additionally, Texas residents who are not qualified for a
concealed-carry license in their own state could get a license in
another state that does not have a residency requirement. Texas
would then be forced to recognize that license.
Armed out-of-state visitors would increase risks in many other
states as well. Sixteen of the 29 states that would fall into the
full-reciprocity category have no training requirements whatsoever.
Some states, like Florida, do not require the license applicant to
have ever handled or fired a gun. Two states, Montana and West
Virginia, do not require a specific background check. While all
states prohibit convicted felons from obtaining licenses to carry,
some states allow people convicted of violent misdemeanors or
stalking to get a license; other states do not. Regardless of these
discrepancies among state laws, the "Have Gun, Will Travel" Amendment
would make all of these licenses interchangeable.
The "Have Gun, Will Carry" Amendment would weaken carrying
concealed weapons laws in states across the country. Despite the gun
lobby's oft-cited support of states' rights when arguing against
federal gun control measures, this amendment would usurp each state's
right and responsibility to protect the public safety of its
citizens. Common sense and good public policy require Congress to
reject an amendment that will allow some citizens, no matter how
unqualified, to bring concealed weapons from coast to coast, and
potentially endangering every citizen they meet along the way.
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Notes:
(1) These states include: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida,
Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Mississippi,
Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota,
Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota,
Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia,
and Wyoming.
(2) These states include: Alabama, California, Colorado,
Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts,
Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, and Rhode Island.
(3) These states include: Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska,
New Mexico, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
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The following documents are attached:
-- The number of concealed weapons licensees broken down by
state.
-- List of incidents involving misuse of firearms by people with
licenses to carry concealed handguns.
-- "Top Ten U.S. Travel Destinations..." and the concealed
weapons laws in those states.
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Concealed Weapons Licensees By State
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STATE, Number of Licensees
SOURCE
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Alabama 105,869 (estimate) (a)
Baldwin/Calhoun/Jefferson/Madison/Morgan/Shelby/Tuscaloosa
County Sheriff's Departments, 8/12/98
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Alaska 7,288
AK State Police, 12/10/97
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Arizona 55,601
AZ Department of Public Safety, 12/15/97
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Arkansas 15,190
AR State Police, 12/9/97
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California 40,000 (estimate)
CA Department of Justice Firearms Program, 12/15/97
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Colorado 6,300 (estimate)
Rocky Mountain News, 4/20/97
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Connecticut 140,000 (estimate)
CT State Police, 12/11/97
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Delaware 1,100 (estimate)
DE State Police, 12/16/97
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Florida 221,446
Office of the FL Secretary of State, 6/30/98
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Hawaii 1
Honolulu Police Department, 8/12/98
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Idaho 35,505
ID State Police, 8/11/98
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Indiana 67,597
IN State Police, 12/15/97
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Iowa 25,756
IA Department of Public Safety, 8/11/98
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Kentucky 32,569
KY State Police, 12/10/97
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Louisiana 7,207 (b)
LA Department of Public Safety, 12/9/97
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Maine 24,000 (estimate)
ME State Police, 12/11/97
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Maryland 14,000 (estimate)
MD State Police, 12/11/97
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Massachusetts 175,000 (estimate)
MA State Police, 8/12/98
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Michigan 10,000
MI Association of Chiefs of Police, 8/13/98
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Minnesota 3,660 (a)
MN Association of Chiefs of Police, 8/13/98
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Mississippi 12,750
MS Department of Public Safety, 12/9/97
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Montana 5,100
MT Department of Justice 12/16/97
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Nevada 9,108 (a)
Washoe/Clark County Sheriff's Departments, 8/11/98
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New Jersey 4,300 (c)
NJ State Police, 8/12/98
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New York 530,000 (estimate)
NY State Police, 8/11/97
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North Carolina 28,198
Charlotte Observer, 11/23/97
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North Dakota 4,872
ND Bureau of Criminal Investigation, 7/31/98
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Oregon 89,328
OR State Police, 8/1/98
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Oklahoma 22,092
OK Bureau of Investigation, 12/12/97
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Pennsylvania 575,000
Philadelphia Inquirer, 4/20/98
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Rhode Island 4,300 (estimate) (b)
Office of the RI Attorney General, 8/12/98
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South Carolina 16,486
SC State Law Enforcement Division, 8/10/98
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South Dakota 47,853
Office of the SD Secretary of State, 8/7/98
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Tennessee 33,000 (estimate)
Richmond Times-Dispatch, 9/12/97
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Texas 161,433
TX Department of Public Safety, 12/12/97
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Utah, 18,806
UT Department of Public Safety, 12/9/97
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Virginia 72,730
VA State Police, 12/12/97
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Washington 249,649
WA State Police, 12/11/97
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West Virginia 25,807
WV State Police, 8/10/98
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Wyoming 4,601
WY Division of Criminal Investigation, 8/11/98
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U.S. TOTAL: 2,903,502
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Note: States that are not included either prohibit the carrying of
concealed weapons, or they grant licenses through counties or
localities and an accurate estimate of licensees for the state is not
available.
a) As state-wide records are not kept, number represents only
concealed weapons licensees from specific jurisdictions.
b) Number represents state regulated permits. Local law
enforcement can also issue permits.
c) Approximately 48 percent are armored car guards and 47 percent
are retired law enforcement officers.
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Carrying Concealed Weapons (CCW)-The Incident File
For several years, the gun lobby has battled to lift restrictions
on concealed carry laws by claiming that licensees are all
law-abiding citizens who will only use their firearms to defend
themselves.
Well...not really. A growing number of permit holders have used
their firearms to commit crimes, or have had their licenses revoked
for crimes unrelated to their handguns. In Texas alone, over 1,600
concealed weapons licensees have had their permits revoked for all
types of crimes, including murder. "Law-abiding" citizens carrying
firearms can make mistakes everywhere they go. Moreover, with a
national "concealed weapons reciprocity" law, these law-abiding
citizens will be going everywhere.
It is important to note that these stories represent only a
fraction of the incidents that occur every week in America.
In many cases, neither law enforcement nor the media inquire about
the license status of criminals during arrest or even after
conviction.
July 19, 1998: Thomas P. Kelly, 28, of Groveland, FL, was charged
with attempted murder after shooting Amerida Dale Woods during a July
19, 1998 argument. Kelly and Woods had been arguing, when Kelly went
to his vehicle, grabbed a handgun and shot Woods. Kelly, a Florida
CCW permit holder, was also charged with use of the firearm in
commission of a felony, use of a firearm under the influence of
alcohol and aggravated assault. (Reported in the Orlando Sun-Sentinel
7/20/98)
July 10, 1998: According to Phoenix police, Toby Mack and Kenneth
April began "to bounce chests and.start to fight" during an argument
at a local mini mart. Mack pulled a gun on April, who responded by
pulling his own concealed handgun. April's friend, Mike Willey came
out of the market and pulled his gun, whereupon several shots were
exchanged by the three. When the shooting stopped, Mack lay on the
ground dead and April had a wound to the lower abdomen. Both April
and Willey possessed valid Arizona Concealed Weapons Permits.
(Reported in the Arizona Republic 7/11/98)
June 4, 1998: Steven Dobric, a CCW permit holder with no prior
criminal record, gunned down his estranged wife outside a restaurant
in Palm Beach, FL, before turning the gun on himself. The victim had
filed a restraining order one month earlier, accusing her husband of
abuse and death threats. Ironically, two days before the June 3, 1998
incident, Gov. Lawton Chiles had signed a domestic violence bill that
barred those served with such orders from possessing firearms.
(Reported in the Sun-Sentinel of South Florida 6/2/98)
March 23, 1998: A man being questioned by Middleburg, FL, police
concerning two murders fled to a men's bathroom in the police station
and committed suicide. The man, a concealed weapons licensee, had not
been been checked for weapons because he had voluntarily talked to
police. (Reported in the Jacksonville Times-Union 3/25/98)
February 1, 1998: A Concord, NH, concealed weapons licensee
accidentally shot his brother's 16-year-old girlfriend while playing
with his gun in a drunken stupor. A known drug-abuser, he had stated
that he needed a concealed weapons permit for "self-protection from
people he thought were after him in connection with drug dealings."
(Reported in the Concord, NH, Monitor 2/3/98)
January 28, 1998: A janitor at Garden Spot Middle School in
Lancaster, PA, discovered a loaded handgun in a fanny pack left
behind after a basketball game. The gun belonged to an assistant
coach of the girls basketball team who forgot he had left it on a
bleacher. The coach's concealed weapons permit was suspended.
(Reported in the Lancaster Intelligencer-Journal 1/28/98)
January 19, 1998: According to Warren, RI police, a man found what
he thought was a novelty cigarette lighter in form of a gun. It was
not. The man "pulled the trigger thinking a flame would come out,
but a bullet came out instead," stated police Detective Michael
Clancy. The gun had fallen out of the boot of a concealed weapons
licensee. Fortunately, no one was injured. (Reported by the
Associated Press 1/20/98)
January 15, 1998: A road-rage incident on a Seattle, WA freeway
turned violent when one driver pulled his concealed pistol and shot
his antagonist in the back. According to police, Ronald Beagles, a
concealed weapons licensee, pulled his 9mm semi-automatic weapon
during a rush-hour confrontation and shot fellow motorist Vernon
Mitchell. Tempers flared when Michell broke Beagles' rear window with
a baseball bat. Beagles responded by pulling his gun and shooting
Mitchell. (Reported in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer 1/15/98)
January 11, 1998: According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Dana
Mason, a West Philadelphia janitor with a clean record and a
concealed weapons permit, used his license like a "magic pass,"
allowing him to purchase guns without a background check or waiting
period. Mason, according to court records, used this loophole in the
Pennsylvania concealed weapons law to serve as a "straw buyer" for
another man, a convicted felon and gun trafficker. Mason was only
caught after authorities became suspicious of a particularly prolific
gun buying spree. (Reported in the Philadelphia Inquirer 1/15/98)
December 22, 1997: John L. Pausch, of Tigard, OR, was charged with
reckless endangerment after accidentally firing his .38 caliber
revolver in a local bar. Police stated that Pausch was "goofing off"
when he removed his gun and began to simulate firing it. The gun went
off, striking the bar and causing $350 worth of damage. Pausch had a
valid Oregon concealed weapons permit. (Reported in the Oregonian
12/24/97)
December 7, 1997: According to police, Seminole County (FL) judge
Newman Brock, a concealed weapons licensee, pointed his .32 caliber
revolver at a fellow motorist. Police stated that Brock pointed his
gun at Neil Stokes after an argument over a parking space. (Reported
by the Associated Press 12/25/97)
November 11, 1997: According to police, 22-year-old Angela
Schlicher is lucky to be alive after she was accidentally shot
by her boss. The Greenwood, Indiana, woman was working in a
tanning salon when her boss accidentally fired his .44 caliber
revolver. According to police, the man, a concealed weapons
permit holder, was drunk at the time. Ms. Schlicher was shot
when he withdrew his gun from its holster to inspect it. The
gun discharged, with the bullet penetrating Ms. Schlicher's
arm and lodging in her spleen. (Reported in the Indianapolis
Star 11/13/97)
November 10, 1997: Two women enjoying a meal at the Planet
Hollywood in Indianapolis, IN, were struck by a single bullet
accidentally discharged by a fellow patron's concealed .32 caliber
Derringer.
The permit holder had bent over to retrieve a broken necklace, only
to have his gun drop out of his pocket, firing one shot. Authorities
pointed out that the permit holder should have kept his gun in a
holster. (Reported in the Indianapolis Star 11/11/97)
October 7, 1997: Hani Farah, owner of a Mt. Morris, MI, liquor
store, was accused of felonious assault on two liquor control board
investigators. According to reports, after the investigators had
seized an illegal gambling machine from Farah's store, Farah ran
after them, firing two shots. Farah, a concealed weapons permit
holder, had his permit revoked after this incident. (Reported in the
Flint, MI, Journal 12/4/97)
September 16, 1997: Former Broward County, FL judge candidate and
CCW license holder Daniel Blackman pulled his gun on an emergency
room doctor at St. Mary's Medical Center after the doctor refused to
write him a prescription. The doctor fled from the examining room
and summoned a police officer who confronted Blackman. Blackman then
pointed his gun at the officer, who managed to wrestle the gun from
him. In 1996 Blackman was accused of threatening to put three
bullets in the head of an officer after receiving a parking ticket at
an airport. Charges were dropped on assurances Blackman would receive
psychological treatment. Under Florida law, he was able to retain
his CCW license. (Reported in the Sun-Sentinel 9/17/97)
September 6, 1997: Five men got into an argument outside of Big
Willy's Saloon in Baldwin, PA. According to reports, words were
exchanged, and guns were pulled. All five individuals had valid
Pennsylvania Concealed Weapons Permits. Shots were fired, and five
people were injured, two critically. Five weapons were recovered.
Although only five bullets had been fired from three of the guns,
each shot managed to injure someone. Baldwin Chief of Police,
Christopher Kelly commented on how easy it was to obtain a concealed
weapons permit. Previous laws had required a letter of reference from
a local police chief. Chief Kelly used the rule to encourage
applicants to obtain safety training. Changes in state law forced
Chief Kelly to stop requiring simple safety training. (Reported in
the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette 9/10/97)
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TOP TEN U.S. TRAVEL DESTINATIONS FOR DOMESTIC TRAVELERS IN 1997
(Source: Travel Industry Association of America)
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1. California (e)
2. Florida (d)
3. Texas (d)
4. Pennsylvania (d)
5. New York (e)
6. Ohio (f)
7. Georgia (d)
8. Illinois (f)
9. North Carolina (d)
10. Virginia (d)
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Notes:
d) States in which virtually anyone who is not a convicted felon
can obtain a license to carry a concealed weapon. The "Have Gun,
Will Travel," Amendment would require these states to grant full
reciprocity to concealed-carry licensees from other states.
e) States which give law enforcement discretion in issuing
concealed-carry licenses and usually require applicants to
demonstrate a specific need to carry a concealed handgun. If the
"Have Gun, Will Travel" Amendment becomes law, Governors in these
states could sign a waiver allowing out-of-state licensees to carry
concealed handguns in their states.
f) States which prohibit the carrying of concealed handguns and
would not be affected by the "Have Gun, Will Travel" Amendment.

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