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Experts: Radiation at Fukushima Plant Far Worse Than Thought
Water at surprisingly low levels; damage "worse than expected"
Radiation levels inside Fukushima's reactor 2 have reached fatally high levels, and levels of water are far lower than previously thought, experts say today.
A radiation monitor indicates 131.00 microsieverts per hour near the No.4 and No.3 buildings at the tsunami-crippled Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO)'s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Fukushima prefecture February 28, 2012. (REUTERS/Kimimasa Mayama/Pool) The current radiation levels are so high that even robots cannot enter. Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) says that new robots and equipment will need to be developed to deal with the lethal levels of radiation.
TEPCO spokesperson Junichi Matsumoto told the Associated Press, "We have to develop equipment that can tolerate high radiation" when locating and removing melted fuel during the decommissioning.
At ten times the lethal dose, the radiation levels are at their highest point yet.
At the current level of 73 sieverts, the data gathering robots can only stand two to three hours of exposure. But, Tsuyoshi Misawa, a reactor physics and engineering professor at Kyoto University's Research Reactor Institute, told The Japan Times, "Two or three hours would be too short. At least five or six hours would be necessary." He added that "the shallowness of the water level is a surprise, and the radiation level is awfully high."
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The Japan Times: Reactor 2 radiation too high for access
73 sieverts laid to low water; dose too high even for robots
Radiation inside the reactor 2 containment vessel at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant has reached a lethal 73 sieverts per hour and any attempt to send robots in will require them to have greater resistance than currently available, experts said Wednesday.
Exposure to 73 sieverts for a minute would cause nausea and seven minutes would cause death within a month , Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
The experts said the high radiation level is due to the shallow level of coolant water — 60 cm — in the containment vessel, which Tepco said in January was believed to be 4 meters deep. Tepco has only peeked inside the reactor 2 containment vessel. It has few clues as to the status of reactors 1 and 3, which also suffered meltdowns, because there is no access to their insides.
The utility said the radiation level in the reactor 2 containment vessel is too high for robots, endoscopes and other devices to function properly.
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BBC News: Probe finds high radiation in damaged Fukushima reactor
The operator of Japan's crippled Fukushima nuclear plant has said damage to one of the reactors is much worse than previously thought. [...]
On Tuesday workers managed to insert a probe into reactor number two for only the second time and found damage worse than expected.
Radiation was up to 10 times the fatal dose, the highest yet recorded at the plant. The level of water cooling the melted-down nuclear fuel was also far lower than expected.
The other two melted-down reactors, which are yet to be examined closely, could be in an even worse state, our correspondent adds.
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Show AllBased upon that math error, the end they predict for Dec 27, 2012 may be off until December the 28th, 2012.... We'll see. If the Mayan's were wrong, the Arctic methane releasing is right on schedule, so we may have until 2030.... Maybe 2020?
The astronomers of the cities of Copán and Tikal measured the duration of the lunar cycle over many years. Their results compare extremely well with today's values:
The observations made in Copán spanned 149 lunations or 4400 days and gave the length of a lunar month as 29.5302 days, while the observations of Tikal spanned 81 lunations or 2392 days and resulted in a lunar month of 29.53086 days.
The modern value, believed to be the best available, is 29.53059 days.
For Venus they give its orbital period as 584 days; today's value is 583.92 days.
Hope they were wrong about Dec 27, 2012 though.
This idea is based upon speculations from before the Mayan glyphs were properly translated, and has survived its complete debunking in academic circles through a combination of the ability for B.S. to float and the now ebbing Millienial Zietgiest.
To put it bluntly, New Age types would have accepted any "Apocalypse Substitute" in the 1970s as long as it came from an ancient pagan culture and was close enough to the christian millienium to seem "plausible".
By New Year's Eve this year, the last popularly "accepted" Apocalypse Date will be behind us, the Millienial Zietgiest will be on its last legs, people who think that all life on Earth will be swept away by some magical means (even if with Science Mumbo Jumbo backing them instead of Latin or Astrological) will mature at last into their roles as laughing-stock, and Humanity and Life will be the happier for it.
I just plain can't wait. ;)
"[Venus] reaches inferior conjunction every 584 days, on average…[ there's a nice animation of that inner outer planet race ]
Venus rotates clockwise (called "retrograde" rotation) once every 243 Earth days—by far the slowest rotation period of any major planet. The equator of the Venusian surface rotates at 6.5 km/h while on Earth rotation speed at the equator is about 1,670 km/h.[64]
A Venusian sidereal day thus lasts longer than a Venusian year (243 versus 224.7 Earth days). "
'A Venusian sidereal day thus lasts longer than a Venusian year (243 versus 224.7 Earth days). " '
Yes, but since Venus rotates oppositely from its revolution about the Sun, the solar day (noon to noon) is LESS (116.7 Earth days) than the Venusian year.
John
ALSO from wikipedia:
"The sidereal period
is the temporal cycle that it takes an object to make one full orbit, relative to the stars. This is considered to be an object's true orbital period.
The synodic period
is the temporal interval that it takes for an object to reappear at the same point in relation to two other objects (linear nodes), e.g., when the Moon relative to the Sun as observed from Earth returns to the same illumination phase. The synodic period is the time that elapses between two successive conjunctions with the Sun–Earth line in the same linear order. The synodic period differs from the sidereal period due to the Earth's orbiting around the Sun.
solar day
the time between successive meridian transits of the sun at a particular place.
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A Venusian sidereal day thus lasts longer than a Venusian year (243 versus 224.7 Earth days).
Because of the retrograde rotation the length of a solar day on Venus is significantly shorter than the sidereal day. As a result of Venus's relatively long solar day, one Venusian year is about 1.92 Venusian days long.[11]"
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HEY JOHN,
Perhaps it's better that you stay
with a subject matter that clearly
you don't know anything about,
like radiation ?
Perhaps you should avoid
complicated subjects,
like "LESS THAN" and
"GREATER THAN" ?
per http://www.conservapedia.com/Venus
"The sidereal period of Venus is 224.7 days, and the synodic period is 583.92 days.
…
Venus rotates retrograde, or east to west, with a sidereal day of 5832.5 hours, or 243.686 Earth sidereal days. Venus' solar day is considerably shorter, at 2802.0 hours (117 sidereal days).
This means that on Venus, it's day is longer than its year."
'Venus rotates retrograde, or east to west, with a sidereal day of 5832.5 hours, or 243.686 Earth sidereal days. Venus' solar day is considerably shorter, at 2802.0 hours (117 sidereal days).'
That should be 117 "Earth sidereal days". The above of course, confirms what I wrote in the comment to which you replied:
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Yes, but since Venus rotates oppositely from its revolution about the Sun, the solar day (noon to noon) is LESS (116.7 Earth days) than the Venusian year. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John
As John is so fallaciously assured of his being absolutely right, that a more public location is needed, for his comeuppance.
Where I apologized and retracted by errant conclusions, and why. Oh, the painful irony of my own "comeuppance"
One has to wonder what will they do about that exclusion zone off the coast of Scotland....
One has to wonder about this abrupt climate change we are experiencing...
NC-Tom; you are right, there is the distinct feeling that it's not going to end well.
A 'pattern' of repeated criminal acts could be called a 'conspiracy', don't you think?
Hmmmm....
"Hmmmm...." ?
No sweat. Brownie -- or someone like him somewhere -- is working out the evacuation details right now.
Honshu, however, has a population of over 100-million, and saving everyone is impossible. The most important thing right now is to assure the safe and comfortable passage of a special 1% to Hawaii.
But he acknowledged that the lower-than-expected water level suggests that a large portion of the injected water is leaking from the primary containment vessel, possibly via the damaged suppression pool that is linked to the reactor. To specify from where the water is leaking, the company needs a ''broader inspection,'' Matsumoto told a press conference. TEPCO plans to conduct another survey into the No. 2 reactor Tuesday to check the interior radiation level."
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20120327p2g00m0dm011000c.html
Gosh, I wonder where the water from that "continuous water injection" is going. I also wonder why we never see any current radiation measurements from the seawater next to the plant.
Think any of those TEPCO executives and their government cronies would care to go for a swim?
Meanwhile, in Southern California the San Onofre nuclear plant was closed down yesterday -- and is still closed, I understand -- due to a radiation leak.
Nothing to worry about, however.
If you ever wanted to own the Mission at San Juan Capistrano or a couple of blocks of Beverly Hills, or maybe Disneyland, and thought you couldn't afford them this may be something to keep an eye on.
Your blanket statement would include the "Curiosity" rover currently on the way to Mars and the tokamak fusion experiments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneutronic_fusion
No, you're not alone in thinking that way. I have been saying it for years, all the while hoping that I would be proven wrong. But it does look now like we are going to be in for a lot of pain.
Who is more likely to rule against nukes, the Big Nuke lobby's politicians, or the people impacted by Big Nuke?
Direct democracy
The NDP was trying to elect a new party leader, except the web-site holding the election kept shutting down because of a massive, hours long botnet attack, which has been determined to be a deliberate attack and attempt to subvert democracy at it's most basic level.
PS - The NDP is an avowedly anti-nuclear, green, and socialist/labor party.
Fiddle sales will probably spike.