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62% of Americans Want Immediate Troop Cuts in Afghanistan
A new CBS News poll on American public sentiment toward the Afghan War, which is approaching its 10th anniversary, shows overwhelming opposition on a number of fronts, with strong majorities demanding immediate troop cuts and overwhelming majorities opposed to continuing the conflict much longer.
The poll showed 62 percent of Americans want immediate troop cuts, with only 24 percent content to keep levels where they are and 7 percent open to an increase.
Other questions showed that the number who want major, immediate cuts has increased from July of 2010, with only 28 percent of Americans willing to have large numbers of troops remaining in Afghanistan for more than two additional years.
A “two additional year” window isn’t going to do the Obama Administration much good, particularly with officials trying to set up a deal to keep troops in Afghanistan through 2024. The overwhelming opposition seems to be coming to a head, and is something which will need to be addressed sooner, rather than later.
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Show AllMany more Americans thought expanding the war in Afghanistan was a terrible idea. They were right and the bankers the Pentagon were wrong. Being wrong and a minority doesn't seem to affect the funtioning of government.
If we had had a legitimate 9-11 investigation, it's very likely no one would have supported an invasion and occupation.
62 % is a majority, if I am not mistaken, but Congress and the Prez couldn't care less.
Bring ALL the troops home, not just those in Iraq and Afghanistan, but those on every single US military base in the world, and close down every single base. If that were done, we could finally talk about reducing the debt and the deficit in rational terms, instead of the nonsense put forth by the Repugnants and Democraps.
Absolutely!
"Bring ALL the troops home"
Yes, and stop the manufacture of death instruments.
Everyone is a loser in an arms race.
Let's make peace and grow food.
Does anyone truly believe that the wants and wishes of "62% of Americans" matter in the least to those who actually make and implement imperial policies? I suppose someone must think so as the publication of polling results such as this seem to be a regular "news" feature, and not only by the MSM.
The obvious question is: "Yeah. So what? What'cha gonna do about it?"
That's essentially what Mr. Evil, Dick Cheney, said to Martha Raddatz when she told him in 2006 that 2/3 of the American people thought that the Iraq War was a mistake. "So?" he said. She responded by asking him if he cared what the American people thought and he said, "No". Scum like Cheney are traitors because they not only don't have the slightest concern for representing the people who elected them they also sell out their country to special interests including the war profiteers. Dick Cheney is a war criminal, a profoundly corrupt politician and a disgrace to humanity.
"62% of Americans Want Immediate Troop Cuts in Afghanistan"
Our one demand:
DIRECT DEMOCRACY!
If public opinion did not matter to the elect and the elite, we would not see so much propaganda.
Sadly, they have no desire to follow the opinions or serve the interests of the public, only to gull the public into following and serving theirs. Still, this should not lead anyone to imagine that the public has no power. The trouble, rather, is that the public is disinformed and very little coordinated. Most particularly, it imagines itself helpless and continues to serve the power it despises by bowing to the old system to feed and house and clothe itself and to socialize.
Of course we should do these things in other ways as much as possible and organize to do so as quickly as possible. But there can be little reasonable doubt that we need these public actions.
Some people will always say that such actions are useless. But their utility should be measured in very large part not just by the new things that they cause to happen, but by what they prevent.
We need to build something of a new and alternate economy, but the standard reaction of larger, more extensively militarized economies to smaller ones is genocide.
There is no way around an upcoming confrontation, and I am relieved and encouraged to see that it has begun in some sense, that it grows, and that it has so far met with only moderate violence (considering the source).
If 62% want troop cuts, does that mean that in the next election they will NOT vote dem/repub? Too many say one thing when asked a poll question, and then vote the opposite way at the polls. Both Parties are war Parties.
Unfortunately when you deny people the right to express dissenting opinions you sing only one note.
To maritimus49, Oct 4 2011 - 3:35pm:
We're in agreement.
The only thing is, the entire political class is corrupt and needs to be cast into the dustbin of history.
The USA needs nothing short of regime change.
Exactly. And I question that 62% figure. I think it is more at the 90% level.
For example, in the military, the officer corp overwhelmingly support the wars and occupation. The officer corp is less than 10% of the total. The enlisted personnel overwhelming DON'T support the wars and want them to end yeaterday. That translates to about 80% against the wars. And that's the MILITARY!
Just think of the civilian population watching the government deficits go to the moon to pay for the comfort of war profiteering murderers like Cheney and the Wall Street gangs.
It's a LOT MORE THAN 62% that want this SHIT to stop.
I say 90% want no more wars and overseas bases NOW!
agelbert: Yes, but only because we're not winning. If we were "kicking Afghan butt" then support for the war would be about 90%.
All of which shows that in a vicious, corrupt society like ours, "direct democracy" is no better than the corporate thugocracy we have already.
----"The enlisted personnel overwhelming DON'T support the wars and want them to end yeaterday. That translates to about 80% against the wars. And that's the MILITARY!"----
would you be so kind as to post the data for that very interesting claim.
I've seen quite a few different polls of Americans concerning Afghanistan
http://www.pollingreport.com/afghan.htm
but I've never seen or even heard of one published that polled our armed forces.
I thank in advance for showing that this claim is not entirely bullshit as is your thing about 90% wanting all our overseas bases closed NOW.
I look forward to seeing your data and am real sure it's coming right up..........................................................
Know what? Not an Afghan or Iragi were on those planes. In fact I am no longer sure who was on the planes. I think 16 of the hijackers were Saudis, but we didn't invade or drop even one bomb on Suadia Arabia?
Why are we in Afghanastan? because they have natural resources multinational corporations want to get their hands on, but aren't willing to invest their own money in obtaining. Do I wish to invest in their profits with no return...NO!
Not to flog a thoroughly dead horse, but I can't help adding to the chorus here who are asking, in all seriousness, does anyone believe that the powers/elites/politicians/turncoats/scumbags/shitheads/evil fucks/corporate war benefactors give a fiddler's fuck what 62% of Americans want? Sure, 99% of the population is being gleefully ground under the bootheel of the 1%, and Mr. FakeTan and his gang in the House of Reps are working hard on their Final Solution. No, America will exit Afghanistan when it is driven out by a superior force with a massive loss of life. Because the people of the U.S. are scared shitless to rise up in the millions and paralyse their excuse for a country with general strikes and gasoline-soaked torches, although the growing Occupy Wall Street movement is an encouraging sign.
But please make no mistake - voting for anything or anyone in America's completely rigged electoral system next year will be absolutely useless. The best thing the entire country - all 360 million of them - can do next year is not turn up at the polling stations. Cancel the ridiculous thing, for Christ's sake, and don't whine about how you'd be betraying or abrogating your democracy. YOU HAVE NO DEMOCRACY. DEAL WITH IT.
Oh, and I'm right there with you, maritimus49, on that goddamn insect Cheney. The sooner that piece of shit is dead the happier I'll be. And he cannot be dead enough.
Makes me wonder what's up with the other 38%? Perhaps they have cozy little jobs making airplanes, helicopters, tanks, missles, or all the other things that cost us 35 million dollars a day, to support these evil wars.
$28.50 an hour assembling cruise missiles on the assembly line. Nice work if you can get it.
But the top 10 percent have all the money, run congress, and are all paying each other very handsomely while using fear mongering, war mongering, and the police state to shut us up.
Why only 62%? Misinformation. People simply do not understand the failure of the mission and the devastating waste of life and hardship on Afghan civilians.
For example: I attended a MoveOn meeting not long ago for the purpose of polling members on key issues they wanted addressed.
The woman who hosted the local gathering, who considered herself a staunch liberal, was steadfastly opposed to ending the war for two reasons. First, the enormous effort it allowed us to make to educate Afghan women. Second, we had no history of walking away from a war successfully.
The $billions spent and the loss of civillian life would be better served dropping textbooks from the air on villages not bombs, for what little is done in education throughout that country. And, as the woman was in her 50s, other participants jumped in reminding her she should remember Vietnam and the devasting consequences of what we were told should be our greatest fear, the "Domino Theory," which never happened after we left. Vietnam has really not been much of a threat to the world since. They just wanted to be a self-determined country.
Fuster, like our State Dept shills, loves to ask for data: it's a typical strategy of diversion. No need to bother with Fusta: his or her aim is to make everyone waste their time. Fusta, schmusta.