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Cesium in Incinerator Dust Across East Japan
High levels of cesium isotopes are cropping up in dust at 42 incineration plants in seven prefectures, including Chiba and Iwate, an Environment Ministry survey of the Kanto and Tohoku regions shows.
Cesium levels of dust with 9,740 becquerels per kilogram was found near the Edogawa incineration plant In Tokyo. According to the report, released late Saturday, the highest cesium levels in the dust ranged from 95,300 becquerels in Fukushima Prefecture and 70,800 becquerels in Chiba Prefecture to 30,000 becquerels in Iwate Prefecture.
But even the lower levels in the dust exceeded 8,000 becquerels per kilogram in Ibaraki, Tochigi, Gunma and Tokyo.
The 16-prefecture survey covered 469 incinerator operators in Tohoku and Kanto from late June, and was reported to a panel of experts at the ministry that is discussing how to safely bury incinerator ash and dust with cesium levels above 8,000 becquerels per kilogram.
Local governments have been instructed to temporarily store their ash and dust at disposal sites until the panel reaches a conclusion.
The ministry said it will ask the prefectures to continue monitoring radiation levels in the material.
Incinerator ash containing cesium was detected at seven facilities in Fukushima Prefecture, the report said.
The Environment Ministry asked prefectures to monitor cesium levels after dust with 9,740 becquerels per kilogram was found at an incineration plant in Tokyo's Edogawa Ward in June. Before that, the only prefectures that had collected and released such data were Gunma and Ibaraki.
The other prefectures that took part in the survey were Miyagi, Akita, Yamagata, Saitama, Kanagawa, Niigata, Yamanashi, Nagano and Shizuoka.
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Show AllI'd say that you just won the prize for saying the stupidest thing on the internet today, but I'm going to read another article and I'm sure they're going to have stupider people posting on that website than you are.
Non-lethal, eh? Prove it, go to Japan and eat some of cesium. Go on, I double dare you.
Aaronica, you are encouraged to cultivate just a bit of extra radar to pick up on the sarcasm factor. Everybody's reading this obscene story and not a few are flipping out.
The rest of the world would love to know how the radioactive cesium gets into the waste stream in the first place. Are the Japanese diligent about sweeping the sidewalks by hand and incinerating the waste? Is TEPCO or the Yakuza (Japanese mobsters) immorally incinerating radiation suits that should have been buried, just to save money? Does the government think that by further dispersing the cesium over every inch of Japanese soil, the national cancer rate will somehow drop?
One can't always catch the sarcastic ones. That's why I advocate the use of a /sarcasm tag when you write something that you want to be taken sarcastically. And the one above is a troll, who I shouldn't have fed in the first place.
I do agree with the rest of your post, and have asked some of the same things. :)
lol @ your hardheadedness. Obvious satire is obvious and you don't need to rubber stamp something just because it's not immediately apparent to you. Calling them a troll makes you sound like a moron.
I do believe if you look at some other threads today you will see that name posting other outrageous things. No, it is not always obvious that the writer intends satire, when you spend a bit more time online than the last 6 months you'll learn that too. :)
I agree ~~Aaronica~~ That first comment has been zapped now but the person is either a trolling nuker shill or is incredibly stupid... If it was supposed to be satire it was a poor job.
Bloviator is not just in bad humour, he has no humour. "He" is probably a computer generated agitator.
Thanks for asking the REAL questions that this luke-warm piece of crap journalism conveniently ignored..
Now when does cesium show up in the sewers?
Terrorist.
Three choices:
Door #1. paid TROLL
Door #2. complete fucking idiot
Door #3. Both 1 and 2
Sadly Im quite sure your well written bit of sarcasm will soon be repeated in the Alice in Wonderland halls of Congress not as sarcasm, but as a "legitimate" argument against regulating the Nuclear industry. And again, dismally, it will seem to make perfect sense to those who speak it, and to many who hear it. You can't see radiation, but can see an unemployed person. So what is more important, some fairy dust or a job? After all it will be "reasoned" that the scientists are wrong about climate change, so they must be wrong about radiation. They're probably getting funded to say radiation is bad for us. Actually I hear that happens all the time concerning some peoples beliefs.
You know better, but that doesn't stop you from intentionally disseminating the worst kind propagandistic poison, to support an industry that should have never been one in the first place.
You are shameless, and should give it up, especially here at CD. No one will buy your "deliverables".
I have some advice. Go ahead and shill if you must, but your argumental construct is just so embarrassingly bad, that it is hard to even enjoy your post on ANY level. Take a creative writing course.
Once you've become a better writer, you might submit something to the Onion.
Hue-Sir-Name: There's still time to change your reply! Quick!
Bloviator: You forgot to mention the millions who would lose their jobs in the health industry if cancer rates drop.
"You know, Dad and I were losing touch, what with him with the Alzheimer's and me so busy with my job at the hospital. But now, with his cancer treatments, we see each other almost every day. I like seeing my Dad and, some days, he likes seeing me. Thanks Mr. Atom for helping my family to stay in touch."
Announcer: "Our friend the atom: Keeping families together, bread-winners employed and power rates affordable. Thanks from all of us Mr. Atom!"
When will you be passing out Kool Aid to our children? Not having a job is a deliberate corporate tactic to drive American wages down below Chinese wages.
Bloviator, since it's not harmful maybe you should go help out with the cleanup in Japan.
Computers short out when they get near Fuku ground zero. Only humans are capable of getting in and lasting for enough minutes to do a small task. Therefore, the computer generated Blowhard would be discounted from helping society.
Hey, it's just a part of nature some say. Cesium in dust, buildings exploding AS dust, planes vaporizing INTO dust... the world's an imperfect place, Nothing to see here - move along little children. Keep watching tv so you can forget what reality is and who's really hurting you and who's destroying mankind's past, present and future. It's your neighbor.
Fallout from Fuku is global now and has been ongoing for half a year. Try to find out who is monitoring US fallout and where it can be accessed, and you will get the runaround. We are most certainly being exposed heavily in the US and the Gov't is hiding the information.
I found a link for the amount of radiation arriving here in the US from Fukushima... I opened the link and before I could read three words the screen went black and my computer locked up... Had to cut the power off to get back to start up.
We have noticed one troubling thing... Where we live in simi-isolation in the mountains of Ariizona, we used to have a bird watchers paradise on our 26 acres of oak forest and a four acre garden area... It has steadily declined in the number of bird specie during the past four years from 86 specie to only nine last year... Then this year it was like Racheal Carson's Silent Spring, hardly any birds at all and few inscects, zero ladybugs or praying mantis in our garden.. That isn't normal. Our canaries in the coal mine? __ I believe so. And we use zero insecticides, no one around here does.
We observed the same thing on a long cross country road trip last month. Very few birds anyplace. For just two examples,,, at the rest area of the Chesepeake Bay Bridge, in an hours time we saw only three seagulls and two pidgeons, crossing the Florida Everglades, (120) miles, we counted exactly five birds... Silent summer.
Omg, Wayne. That is the harshest thing I have read in a while.................................... I compost and keep lots of healthy bugs around for birds. I water and leave little puddles for them. I love the critters. I like to keep our nature as wild as possible. Too sad. I can only pray that it is true what some Native Americans believe; that all the species and ancestors still exist on another plane of existence. In the meantime, this what is happening here on Plane of existence, Earth, is damning for all of us.
When this event happened, added to BP's poisoning of the Gulf, and Shell's poisoning of the Niger Delta, and global warming exacerbating intense climate change, added to rising methane levels... taken together, (and that's without all the pollution factors, or the toxicity in our waterways) we ARE talking an exinction event in slow motion.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the next generations survive, there will be all sorts of unsightly mutations.--------------
I remember reading about the few who survived the Bubonic Plague, and stuck around to help with the ill. Not everyone succumbs.-----------------------------------------------
Minitrue (from our forum) has written about the nuclear tests over Bimini. He's stil here and in his 70's, and there were some who survived, having been deeply exposed to radiation, who resided in the outskirts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.------------------------
It's hard to imagine human biology finding a way to become immune to radiation, but most of us alive today, were we to do a "body burden test," would find that our skin, hair, and cells are harboring ALL SORTS of industrial chemicals. So adaptation to the toxic is life's attempt to keep on living. -------------------------------------------------
I am hardly an advocate of these gross developments. However, my point is that a few will likely survive, yet the fate of their children, will likely prove tainted. To think such calamity has largely come about as a result of these memes: ----------------------
1. Better living through chemistry---------------------------------------------------
2. So we thought we could be free-------------------------------------------------------------------
3. So the military could protect us--------------------------------------------------------------
4. That we'd be privileged to enjoy lives of convenience ----------------------------------------------------------------
And a few in the forum wonder why those of us who identify with ancient spiritual and indigenous values would question the all-encompassing presumed claim to wisdom as justified by science, modern government, the church, or academe? -----------------------------
The evidence of where a focus on cold logic alone (or business pragmatism, its cousin) would lead is now in plain, if toxic, sight.
I'm sorry to say that there are some horrible places in the world, such as Russia's "Atomic Lake" region, where human life expectancy is around 50 years and where a great number of people live with their birth defects. Other places would be Vietnam's Demilitarized Zone (Agent Orange) and Fallujah, Iraq (depleted uranium dust). These are examples of what we don't want our world to be.
The average life expectancy for folk living their lives in the former-USSR is around 55 - thanks to cirrhosis and cancers. The poisons that kill most Russians are deliberately self-inflicted. Those living in the vicinity of Lake Karachay (I presume this is the lake of which you speak) have life expectancies still within the bell curve. Let's keep this in context.
WTF- Boiling water with radioactive material is self inflicted- your statistics are always made up, do they constitute self inflicted in your "mind"? Try and add some context. Are you an insurance sales man?
Siouxrose,
In the weeks after the main event in Fukushima, when the radiation cloud was supposed to be traveling over the west coast, where we live,...I had days of nosebleeds and my hair all over the bathroom floor after combing. Since then I have read more about radiation and made the connection......................................
Sad story. My best friend from high school died of cancer at 40 with 4 little blond babies/ young children running around the open casket! She was the skinny girl who wore tons of make-up always. Wore so much mascara that it never came off.
Hi Siouxrose, (single break, see below)
Yep, 74 next month. I still remember the fatigue, stomach pain, the bleeding gums, the hair coming out in clumps when I combed it. I was nineteen and didn't expect to see twenty. (double break)
Fortunately, I recovered and survived. There are few of us left. Mostly dead of rather nasty cancers. That is why I keep beating the anti-nuke drum even though I'm sure people are tired of reading me.
By the way, here is a tip. < br/ > without the spaces gives you a line break< br/ >< br/ > gives you paragraph spacing.
What I do is type it in (without the spaces) at my first break and copy it. Then, when I need a break I just hit paste and the break is there. Painless. The single line break is great for poems.
Keep trying!
Love and hugs.
"Love and hugs".... Watch it boy, what's gong on here?
BTW,,, We aren't tired of your comments.
Keep up the good work. Your comments are generally among my favorites.
Wonder what the readings will be by December? __ Merry Christmas Tokyo,,, and San Francisco.
Or by December of 2013? __ December of 2014? __ No one has a clue of when those three melted down reactor cores' will stop emitting cessium-137 and other deadly radioactive poisons, some of which enter the Jet Stream and go where the wind takes it... There is a method which will prevent anyone from inhaling any of those deadly airborne isotopes,,, hold thy breath.
One thing that MAY pleae some, is it will help reduce the over population problem.. It probably will help a lot.
Thank you for the information and the link ~~Gerald~~..
They must be insane... It is not possible to destroy radioactive isotopes by burning them... They will enter the air in the smoke... Hot air rises... They will make a disasterous situation even more disasterous.
I know the water in Washington DC is heavily contaminated with lead, so there is an excuse for our 536 DC elected and Pentagon personnel to be crazy,,, Don't know about the water in Japan.
There is an element of humor to this you have to admit, in a Homer Simpson kind of way.
Let's build a nuclear power plant on an earthquake, where they have tsunamis, and put the generators up against the ocean.
Okay, that didn't work.
Now, let's put the waste in the incinerators where no one will see it anymore.
doh!
Doh!, and cram as many buildings and people all around it from every direction.
I got a great idea. Why don't we generate electricity with a poisonous substance, the waste of which will be poisonous for fucking ever, and store that poison in pools of water that need constant electricity circulating that water for fucking eternity? Wow, nothing could go wrong there huh?
The worst part of your concept (which is true) is that it is intentional. The first rule of science is to perpetuate science to the exclusion of other things. Most of the harm created on the planet comes from one source, science can fix it because science created it. This is only one example, another is the scientifically controlled environments for poultry, factory farms. Even natural human immunity is being subverted and will be dependent on science. This is what happens when you lose
touch with the natural world, when you have to have science explain it to you.
And STILL they want to build MORE of these monstrosities. It is insanity. What will it take? Would massive earthquakes destroying both the San Onofre and Diablo Canyon nuclear plants spreading radiation all over the U.S. do it? How about a meltdown at Indian Point poisoning the NYC water supply forever? Maybe a couple meltdowns in France? What's it going to take?
hey, dkshaw!
I was just explaining, again, yesterday...
each plant we have now is virtually guaranteed to go the way of Fukushima...it is only a matter of time, as no plant can be maintained forever...
in other words, 'they' know, full well, before they throw one of these things 'online', that they have lit a candle that will never go out, and that will, one day, go kaboom on a global scale, and continue to emit radioactivity for eons...along with the others...resulting in ever-increasing levels...
it is all about how much money can be made in the meantime...
those building would need to be stopped, and those built, dismantled...
And of course the original licenses are running out, as the plants have reached the end of their designed lifecycles. So now they are being relicensed to run another 20 years beyond their designed intent, and at power levels 20% above their original design. What could possibly go wrong? Ah, hell, nothing else matters but this month's bottom line, then the quarterly bottom line.
The problem with Sarcasm/Satire/Parody about pro-Nukers is that their positions and statements already seem like something out of The Onion. Does anyone remember the sincere supporter of nuclear energy who said the upside of Fukushima's ocean pollution is that prohibitions against fishing would help the fish populations decimated by over-fishing?
I think Bloviator's disappeared comment was satire, but I can understand how it could be seen as just another example of how crazy the nukers are. It's difficult to think of anything so out there that a nuker wouldn't say, and mean, it.