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Revealed: Gaddafi Envoy in Britain for Secret Talks
Exclusive: Contact with senior aide believed to be one of a number between Libyan officials and west amid signs regime may be looking for exit strategy
Colonel Gaddafi's regime has sent one of its most trusted envoys to London for confidential talks with British officials, the Guardian can reveal.
Supporters of the Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi stage a rally in Tripoli. (Photograph: Zohra Bensemra/Reuters) Mohammed Ismail, a senior aide to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam, visited London in recent days, British government sources familiar with the meeting have confirmed. The contacts with Ismail are believed to have been one of a number between Libyan officials and the west in the last fortnight, amid signs that the regime may be looking for an exit strategy.
Disclosure of Ismail's visit comes in the immediate aftermath of the defection to Britain of Moussa Koussa, Libya's foreign minister and its former external intelligence head, who has been Britain's main conduit to the Gaddafi regime since the early 1990s.
A team led by the British ambassador to Libya, Richard Northern, and MI6 officers embarked on a lengthy debriefing of Koussa at a safe house after he flew into Farnborough airport on Wednesday night from Tunisia. Government sources said the questioning would take time because Koussa's state of mind was "delicate" after he left his family in Libya.
The Foreign Office has declined "to provide a running commentary" on contacts with Ismail or other regime officials. But news of the meeting comes amid mounting speculation that Gaddafi's sons, foremost among them Saif al-Islam, Saadi and Mutassim, are anxious to talk. "There has been increasing evidence recently that the sons want a way out," said a western diplomatic source.
Although he has little public profile in Libya or internationally, Ismail is recognised by diplomats as being a key fixer and representative for Saif al-Islam. According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail represented Libya's government in arms purchase negotiations and as an interlocutor on military and political issues.
"The message that was delivered to him is that Gaddafi has to go, and that there will be accountability for crimes committed at the international criminal court," a Foreign Office spokesman told the Guardian , declining to elaborate on what else may have been discussed.
Some aides working for Gaddafi's sons, however, have made it clear that it may be necessary to sideline their father and explore exit strategies to prevent the country descending into anarchy.
One idea the sons have reportedly suggested – which the Guardian has been unable to corroborate – is that Gaddafi give up real power. Mutassim, presently the country's national security adviser, would become president of an interim national unity government which would include the opposition. It is an idea, however, unlikely to find support among the rebels or the international community who are demanding Gaddafi's removal.
The revelation that contacts between Britain and a key Gaddafi loyalist had taken place came as David Cameron hailed the defection of Koussa as a sign the regime was crumbling. "It tells a compelling story of the desperation and the fear right at the very top of the crumbling and rotten Gaddafi regime," he said.
Ministers regard Koussa's move to abandon his family as a sign of the magnitude of his decision. "Moussa Koussa is very worried about his family," one source said. "But he did this because he felt it was the best way of bringing down Gaddafi."
Britain learned that Koussa wanted to defect when he made contact from Tunisia. He had made his way out of Libya in a convoy of cars after announcing he was going on a diplomatic mission to visit the new government in Tunis.
It was also reported that Ali Abdussalam Treki, a senior Libyan diplomat, declined to take up his appointment by Gaddafi as UN ambassador, condemning the "spilling of blood". Officials were checking reports that Tarek Khalid Ibrahim, the deputy head of mission in London, is also defecting.
The prime minister insisted that no deal had been struck with Koussa and that he would not be offered immunity from prosecution. "Let me be clear, Moussa Koussa is not being granted immunity. There is no deal of that kind," Cameron said. Within hours of his arrival in Britain, Scottish prosecutors asked to interview Koussa about the 1988 Lockerbie bombing. The Crown Office in Edinburgh has said that it is formally asking for its prosecutors and police detectives to question him.
But government sources indicated that Britain does not believe Koussa was involved. He was at the heart of Britain's rapprochement with Libya, which started when Tripoli abandoned its support for the IRA in the early 1990s.
He was instrumental in persuading Gaddafi to abandon his weapons of mass destruction programme in 2003. One source said: "Nobody is saying this guy was a saint, because he was a key Gaddafi lieutenant who was kicked out of Britain in 1980 for making threats to kill Libyan dissidents. But this is the guy who persuaded Gaddafi to abandon his WMD programme. He no doubt has useful and interesting things to say about Lockerbie, but it doesn't seem he said 'go and do it'."
However there is unease among Tories about Britain's involvement in Libya. Underlining those concerns, Boris Johnson, the London mayor, told BBC Question Time that a continued stalemate in Libya could "have terrible consequences". Johnson said; "I do worry that if we get into a stalemate; and if, frankly, the rebels don't seem to be making the progress that we would like, we have to be brave, to say to ourselves that our policy is not working, and encourage the Arabs themselves to take leadership in all of this."
William Hague, the foreign secretary, said he had a sense that Koussa was deeply unhappy with Gaddafi when they spoke last Friday. "One of the things I gathered between the lines in my telephone calls with him, although he of course had to read out the scripts of the regime, was that he was very distressed and dissatisfied by the situation there," Hague said.
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Show AllFor the most part an informative article
"Some aides working for Gaddafi's sons, however, have made it clear that it may be necessary to sideline their father and explore exit strategies to prevent the country descending into anarchy."
There is a fundamental difference between classical 'anarchy' and 'chaos', they are not terms of equivalency. This subtle 'demonization' of the basic idea of anarchy as description of chaos establishes a false dichotomy that serves to enforce an overarching rationalization for the use of force/violence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_violence
I missed this slight and this old anarchist thanks you for trying to put the matter straight.
http://praxeology.net/anarchy-is-order.htm
"According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail represented Libya's government in arms purchase negotiations.."
definitely a trustworthy peacemaker.
But we still have missiles to spend and oil to control
Professional wrestling!
Then again, he could just be bringing proof Al Sheikh Al Libi is actually alive and well and did not "commit suicide" in a Libyan jail, and is wanting to publicly talk about his torture by the CIA and how his largely debunked confession used by George Bush to argue the WMD claims against Iraq. After all, how exactly did al Libi end up in Libyan custody after the CIA was done with him?
Great fictional work, but apart from the fact the guy is believed to be dead since 2009, everything else I mentioned is accurate. Imagine if alive, and after Obama has shown an unwillingness to prosecute the previous administration for ramping up an illegal war, only to have Gadaffi drop a material witness to the lies fabricated by Bush.. Talk about storyline drama.
translated this means:
Ghaddafi Recalls what happened, (is STILL happening), to Germany, France and Russia when they wouldn't "play ball" with the parasitic T a l m u d i c J e w bankers. Of course the U.S. of I s r a e l and "Great" Britain never went through it, (yet), because there was never any resistance against them by the cowards that "lead", they simply said, "here's my account number, when it's deposited you'll have NO trouble from us, boss." And there you have it.....the story on how the West became I s r a e l 's "b i t c h" nations.
it was kind of a sudden to hear that gaddaf son saif alislam was in israel arranging for an israeli company headed by israeli army generals to supervise a recruiting efforts of mercinaries from africa to join gaddafi army.at the same time, obama has retreated from supporting the rebels and pulled back the US forces that were a vanguard in the assault on gaddafi forces.and now the british government negotiating with gaddaf sons to form a coalition government with the rebels, negotiations that did not include rebels reps.did israel finally succeed in calling the shots in libya against the west policy? is the tail wagging the body, as some of us knew all along?