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Sanders: GOPs 'Do Not Want Americans to Succeed'; Obama Should Steer Left
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday that Republicans "do not want Americans to succeed" in laying out his case for energizing the liberal base to go to the polls in November.
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., on "Face the Nation," Sunday, Oct. 3, 2010. (Chris Usher/CBS) Sanders, a self-proclaimed
Democratic socialist who caucuses with Democrats, discussed President
Obama's disconnect with the liberal wing along with New Mexico Gov. Bill
Richardson (D) and Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) on CBS' "Face the
Nation" Sunday.
While Obama's accomplishment including healthcare reform have been "nothing to sneeze at," Sanders said, the middle class is shrinking while poverty increases and income gaps become wider.
"We have a very serious situation and I think there's a concern that the president hasn't seen that urgency," Sanders said, and "stood up for the American people the way we would like him to."
He said Obama needed to rally on a "progressive agenda to expand the middle class."
When pressed by host Bob Schieffer on his comments about Republicans, Sanders defended his words, saying that given the choice between political power and "initiatives to help the American people" that the GOP would choose power.
"The Republicans have said no, no, no," Sanders said. "They have been the party of no and obstructionism."
Richardson said it was more than just invigorating the liberal base, but about conservative and moderate Democrats as well, and he advised the various ideological wings to "stop complaining" and work together to win in November.
"All Democrats, we should stop firing at each other," Richardson said. "We've got enough people -- the Republicans -- firing at us."
Richardson said that while Obama "has tackled the major issues" and has "restored our standing internationally," he needed to "connect with voters emotionally."
"I think the president has done a much better job than people perceive, including the base," Rendell said.
"Ours is a complex message," Rendell added. "The Tea Party message is pretty simple and direct." Democrats should spend the next four weeks energizing the base and spreading the message that a Republican takeover would be "starkly bad for America."
"I think you're going to see more progressives coming out than you otherwise would have," Sanders said.
Rendell predicted that Democrats "definitely" will keep the Senate and have a chance at keeping the House.Comments
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Show AllIMHO "We" have not reached empire. Empire needs an emperor/dictator. Our treasury has been squandered and our enemies have grown stronger. All "We" did was lose our republic. "We" are living Plato's Republic now and for the foreseeable future. Just like in "1984" all Big Brother had to lord over in the end was his own people.
Your analogy seems a wee bit strained (or stretched beyond all fucking reason).
"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday that Republicans "do not want Americans to succeed" in laying out his case for energizing the liberal base to go to the polls in November."
The Democrats don't want this country to succeed either. The Race To The Bottom is every bit as much a Democrat enterprise as a Republican one. Add Sanders to the list that includes Michael Moore and Robert Scheer. Their behavior is a mystery.
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From Professor David Michael Green's excellent partial list of reasons why authentic progressives should abandon the failed Dimocrap Party and build an independent populist progressive national movement:
[Source: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/10/02-1]
"I realized that things could be one helluva lot worse next year if we progressives don't stop whining and if we don't start bucking up, and fast!
Think about it.
We could end up with a government that instantly responds to the five-alarm fire of economic meltdown by bailing out the very Wall Street banks that created the mess, one hundred cents on the dollar, while doing next to nothing for the other ninety-eight percent of us in the middle and working classes.
We could have a government that is populated by proteges of Robert Rubin, the Goldman Sachs wonder boy whose enthusiasm for deregulation while he was Bill Clinton's Treasury Secretary has now crashed the global economy.
We could have a government that refuses to seriously reform the deregulatory policies that got us into this crisis. Maybe it would pass a "reform" bill, but you can bet the law wouldn't actually deal with key threats like derivatives. Nor would it separate ordinary banking from market speculation. And it would probably leave us with banks that are more gargantuan than ever, and more ‘too big to fail' than they were in 2008.
We could have a government that doesn't spend any political capital whatsoever on creating temporary jobs to keep people afloat during a crisis, and doesn't even care much about extending their unemployment benefits during the deepest recession since the Great Depression.
We could have a government that runs a mortgage relief program supposedly designed to keep people from losing their houses, but instead leaves sinking homeowners worse off than if they hadn't applied at all.
We could have a government that continues the Bush era legislation that actually gives tax incentives to corporations picking up their manufacturing plants and all the jobs associated with them and exporting everything overseas.
If we don't buck up, we could wind up having the kind of person George W. Bush might pick for running the Pentagon as our Secretary of Defense.
We could find ourselves mired endlessly in some Asian war whose purpose can't even be identified. Heck, if you thought Bush was bad, the next government might go so far as to triple the number of troops in Afghanistan.
Or it might dramatically increase the number of Predator drone attacks being launched against our "ally", Pakistan.
We might get a government that still won't close down Guantánamo.
We could wind up with a government that does nothing (other than to continue to send billions in support) when Israel builds illegal settlements in the West Bank that further damage the prospects for peace in the Middle East.
We might have a government that continues Bush's policy of claiming the "state secrets" privilege in cases involving torture, rendition, or other violations of Constitutionally guaranteed civil liberties even worse than those (see below), asking courts to dismiss them without even hearing any evidence.
We could have a government in which the president actually claims the right to assassinate American citizens.
We could have a government that won't do anything about ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", continuing to dismiss from the military patriots willing to die for their country whose only crime is having a minority sexual preference.
If we're not careful, the next government might actually go to federal court, asking that suits against Clinton's anti-gay "Defense of Marriage" act be blocked from even being heard.
We could have a government that sics the FBI on non-violent anti-war peace organizations, searching their premises and seizing their property on the basis of ridiculous trumped-up charges of abetting terrorism.
We might get ourselves a government that continues to increase "defense" spending, even though the US spends more on its paranoia budget right now than all the other countries of the world combined - all 200 of them - and even though we are currently in a massive fiscal crisis due to egregious over-spending.
We could have a government that would appoint a fiscal commission stacked with appointees focused on denying benefits to American seniors in the name of balancing the budget. This new government might even appoint a lunatic like Alan Simpson as the commission's co-chair, even though he has publicly described Social Security as "a milk cow with 310 million tits".
We could have a government that immediately fires any civil servants who are attacked by Glenn Beck or similar monsters, even when they completely fabricate allegations against those people.
If we're not serious this November, we could get a government that won't do anything about global warming, even while ice caps melt, Russia burns, coral reefs die, and we sweat through the hottest summer ever on record.
We might get a government that would open up huge tracts of environmentally sensitive off-shore zones for oil drilling.
We could have a government that would help to cover up for companies like BP when they wreck the environment.
We could have a government that would let companies like BP be in charge of dealing with a massive oil spill, instead of having government agencies created to serve the public interest handle it.
We could have a government that knows that such federal agencies have been completely captured by the special interests they're supposed to regulate, and yet does nothing about reforming them.
We could get a government that responds to the health care crisis by writing a bill based on a deal it cuts with insurance companies and pharmaceutical corporations. Even though these insurance companies add nothing whatsoever to the delivery of health care, and even though they eat up in profit and overhead one out of every three dollars spent for health care, this government could pass legislation forcing forty million Americans to buy their product.
If we don't buck up here, people, we could wind up with a government that refuses to stand up for the public interest and continues to be a shill for Wall Street, corporations and other plutocrats, even foreign ones."
The bail out worked out pretty damn good. Most money repaid. People learned a lot about derivatives and such shenanigans. It will likely wait a full generation until unsuspecting dupes are tricked again. We did get nearly half the stimulus we needed. GOP said none and no more. I could go on. There are huge fucking differences, just not as different as you or I want. Big fucking deal. We'll never get everything we want. Live with it or lump it.
"The bail out worked out pretty damn good. Most money repaid. People learned a lot about derivatives and such shenanigans. It will likely wait a full generation until unsuspecting dupes are tricked again."
Where did you pick up that nonsense from? Prove it. Americans don't learn about derivatives so fast and when they're looking for work.
"There are huge fucking differences, just not as different as you or I want. Big fucking deal. We'll never get everything we want. Live with it or lump it."
Sorry Greg but most Americans don't agree with that foolish assumption of yours. The Democratic voters are prepared to stay home seeing no significant differences between D and R. You can't keep forcing others into lowering their expectations without heavier resistance the lower you set the bar. I'm afraid the voters will lump the Democrats out of their seats.
If the republicans gain control you may live to regret your current ideas. Anyway, if it works out poorly it's on your conscience, not mine. And tell me, are you going to buy some derivatives if you get a 'good deal?' Only a few dopes might. If they're that stupid, more lack of power to them.
"If the republicans gain control you may live to regret your current ideas."
If the Republicans gain control, it will be because the Democrats allowed them to.
"Anyway, if it works out poorly it's on your conscience, not mine."
Sorry chump but you will have to answer for defending the actions of the Democrats responsible for giving the Republicans power in the first place.
"And tell me, are you going to buy some derivatives if you get a 'good deal?' "
I don't gamble with hard earned money. You must be a rich man, no?
THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM
The fact remains, however, that the kleptocratic rulers in the US, EU, and other debt-burdened countries know exactly what they are doing: to let the recession drag on, to take advantage of the crushing recession in order to extract “enough” concessions from the working people until welfare states are dismantled and labor costs in the more developed capitalist countries are made competitive with those of the less-developed countries. This explains why despite new signs of further global economic contraction, the reigning governments in these countries (whether they are nominally headed by Socialist, Social-Democratic, Labor, Democratic, Conservative or other parties) are maintaining their coordinated abstention from expansive or stimulating fiscal policies while continuing their brutal spending cuts on health, education, wages, pensions, and the like.
This is not to say that these governments do not want to have economic growth or job-creation—they do—but that they want them on their own (Neoliberal) terms, that is, through Neoliberal policies that would create jobs that would pay wages on a par with those of workers in less-developed countries. In other words, they prefer the kind of lopsided economic growth whose fruits would be reaped mostly by the wealthy—the so-called trickle-down or supply-side economic growth. As writer/reporter Patrick O’Connor points out, “In the US, Europe and other advanced capitalist economies, the aim is permanently reducing the living standards of working people.
This is what the Republicans and Democrats are up to. Can you not see it?
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Participating in real power in the present situation means to flee the sinking rat turds of the DLC Dimocrap and Rethuglican Parties to form a new national movement that is militant; seizes union leadership from the conciliators running the unions out of existence, and appeals across race, education and income level to the roughly 80 million eligible U.S. voters who routinely do not vote because they have been so long abandoned by both neo-lib corporatist Parties.
There is a lot of FEAR in liberal and milquetoast pwogwessive circles here and in the UK because they know the Republicans are likely to sweep in 2010 and 2012 and societies in the US, UK and across the EU will become dangerously and probably violently unstable because of it. Look at the general strikes already sweeping across the EU. These pants pissing liberals and spineless pwogs are right to be afraid. But the attitude of 99ers like me who've already been forced to walk the neo-liberal gangplank (and 6 million more will walk that very same gangplank to economic nowhere in 2011) constructed by DLC Dims and Newtzi/neo-con Rethugs since the 1980s look at it like this: Better to lance a boil and let all the nasty pus & blood mixture splurt out all over the place to create popular demand for a disinfectant than to let the infection drag out and lead to lethal blood poisoning. America's remnant middle-class and as much of the upper-middle-class as possible NEED to suffer a LOT more before they will pull their still complacent, stock market felching heads out of their complicit, neo-liberal-lite asses.
glaringly stupid...just go ahead and say it...why beat around the bush...fuck it all
Glaring stupid it may look like but you can't ignore public anger forever.
I am so intrigued that Rahm is leaving. Actually, Rahm managed Obama and had a hand in all choices for everything. I guess maybe he was Cheney to Obama's bush. However, after saying that, I am also concerned about Rahm's connection to Israel.
There was a picture in CD the other day with Obama, Rahm and Netanyahu. OMG! Obama was off in dreamland talking, and I swear that Rahm and Netanyahu looked like two hyenas, licking their chops for the kill. it was a creepy photograph.
O.K., so Rahm is leaving; I guess his work is done. Obama is right where Netanyahu and Rahm want him, kind of drifting off in a leaking kayak.
I did vote for Ralph Nader because I knew that he knew what a meat grinding place D.C. is. he has the experience and the knowledge. Obama just didn't have the experience and knowledge, plus he trusted the wrong people.
So back to Rahm...I guess I think of him as someone with allegiance to Israel and not to America. I know that isn't a fair and factually based thing to say as these are only suggestions and feelings to me, and sometimes non verbal ones, but that's how I read Rahm.
The great "Hope" show is a disaster, and Rahm's work is done. People are so pissed that they will either not vote or they will vote for the worst possible choice to show how angry they are. Like that does any good. One month is not time to get enough suppport going for third parties. My belief in third parties is for the wonderful ideas that have come from and for the people. Maybe the person didn't get elected, but the ideas did finally take hold. Third parties are always what changed America for the better.
Now that the RHAMA CARTA is in place, the GOP will possibly sweep everthing, and Israel gets what it wants, WAR with IRAN! Oh how happy the hawks the corporates the anit-republicites and the zionists will be.
I am making my choices strictly on a one vote issue. I'm hedging my bets and hoping that the Congress we have at the moment will not go totally hawkish and vote this route. I am choosing , with my fingers crossed, that the next Congress is not filled with hawks and flag wavers..........NO WAR WITH IRAN! That will be the final nail, or maybe it will just make us all deader than a doornail. Many may disagree, but that's how I'm going to vote this time.
The status quo will do whatever it has to/can to stay in power.
It will not willingly give up an inch.
That's why the repugs were allowed to self-resusitate just by blowing hard.
The status quo, this bogus "2" party system run by corporate oligarchy/MIC, has to really exert to keep everyone convinced it is the only show in town.
Obviously, the system is rotten and will fall. Obviously, the climate will do a rapid shift, probably sooner rather than later. But...
Get this. They already know it. The "public" are the ones kept in the dark. The oligarchy is doing what it has to, as it sees it, to insure its own survival---concentrate wealth, consolidate totalitarian political powers, create a host of private military types beholden to the corp-controlled Gov't for regular pay checks: Xe's, war on drugs, border blaha, "intelligence agencies", etc.
That's why we got the looting, token action on global warming, endless war, and the list of other ills. But...
Nature abhors top-heavy systems. Rome didn't fall because of some other power with more or better troops. Empires don't voluntarily down-size to sustain power, they collapse.
They cannot be inhibited by violence, because violence sustains them. So...
What to do?
Plenty of good ideas in these pages, from many people. Taken together, we make billions of tiny decisions that determine the overall direction of this "Titanic". Be the "Che Guevara" of eating right, using clean and less energy, learn about Nature, etc., in short, as has been said, BE the change you want to see in the world.
TALK TO PEOPLE. The internet is great, these blogs are great, but, also join local groups of like-minded people, don't be shy. You who are reading this, if we wanted to speak with each other to develop concrete actions/programs it would be difficult considering the realities of this electronic/anonymous medium.
So, "if you can't be with the one you love---love the one you're with."
Who? The person next to you at the bus stop, at work, school, etc., at the Rally to Restore Sanity/Keep Fear Alive...
Don't give away your power.
WE get to create America. They don't.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Good post snydly. Your heart is in the right place. But the tragedy of giving up on the idea of organized national movements (here and in the EU) behind national level policy changes to address issues of national and global scale means that billions of people around the planet directly influenced by US and EU policy rot who are not in a position to do what you suggest will suffer intensely and perish in the coming collapse.
Mom told me years ago: "It's wrong to push someone into a well. But if someone falls into a well, you don't have to pull them out."
Slightly faulty morally, but you get the point.
The empire-heads and greed monkeys are setting themselves up for another trip down the well. This time they stole our grandkids money to float out. but, stay tuned.
Fortify yourselves with alternative ways to weather the storm.
mr. sanders, start a third party, a socialist party. what are you waiting for?