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Quran Burning and US Inconsistency
Why does the US government think burning Qurans is less civilized than drone attacks on civilian populations?
Barack Obama, the US president, has warned that threats to burn the Quran are a sure and effective way to swell the ranks of al-Qaeda. This may be true, but largely because such symbolic acts of 'Islamophobia' are widely viewed as verifying the perception that the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, along with its backing of Israel, are motivated by its hostility towards Muslims.
The previously unheard of pastor
of a small Florida church may have scrapped his plan to publicly burn
hundreds of Qurans on the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, but the
threat alone has done untold damage to the already troubled
relationship between the Muslim world and the West.
The US government's reaction to the plan will not have gone unnoticed. But no matter how strong the words of condemnation, those on the receiving end of US occupation or air raids will be struck by the apparent inconsistency.
General David Petraeus, the US commander in Afghanistan, warned that burning the Quran could endanger the lives of US troops who might become the target of retribution. But why do Obama and Petraeus think that burning the Quran is any less civilized or more dangerous than their use of unmanned drones to target suspected Taliban or al-Qaeda fighters and the subsequent civilian casualties these attacks often entail?
Terry Jones, the pastor behind the planned Quran bonfire, may be insane, as some, including his own daughter, have suggested. But what excuse do sane and sophisticated people like Obama, Petraeus, and Robert Gates, the US secretary of defence, have?
Dehumanization
In his Cairo speech, Obama attributed the blame for some of the misunderstanding between the West and the Muslim world to the acts of terrorism carried out by a minority of Muslims. "The attacks of September 11, 2001 and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights," he said. But he totally glossed over the fact that before - just as after - 9/11, the US engaged in unjust wars against mainly Muslim countries - a threat that is more potent than any plan to burn Qurans.
If it were not for these wars and a history of US support for the Israeli occupation and dictators in the region, the threat to burn Qurans - as ugly and offensive as it clearly is - would not have been anything more than the act of a small-time minister searching for attention and obsessed with his own prejudices.
But in an atmosphere of 'Islamophobia' - fed by a mistrust and ignorance of Islam - and US wars against Muslim countries, the suggestion of a Quran-burning day becomes something much more significant.
It also reflects the general dehumanization of Muslims and Arabs - particularly those who have been the victims of American and Israeli bombings - that has taken root, allowing some of the US public to become immune to the crimes committed by their own government or with their government's backing.
Today, as Americans grieve the victims of the 9/11 attacks, it is important to recognize that sorrow is a shared universal sentiment that does not exclude religions or races.
In the weeks following 9/11, the American press devoted pages and air time to giving a human face to the victims of the attacks. It is not realistic or even right to expect the American media to give the exact same treatment to the victims of US wars. But, until very recently, the US media rarely even questioned the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and when it did, the questions asked rarely centered on the civilian deaths, which were at best seen as inevitable incidents of war and, at worst, as necessary collateral damage.
Such a mentality is more damaging in the long run than any individual threatening to burn the Quran, because it plants the seeds of dehumanization.
In the words of Kathy Kelly, an American peace activist who is currently facing trial for 'trespassing' in a drone-manufacturing plant during an anti-war protest, the mainstream media "does little to help ordinary [Americans] ... understand that the drones which hover over potential targets in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen create small "ground zeroes" in multiple locales on an everyday basis".
Lamis Andoni is an analyst and commentator on Middle Eastern and Palestinian affairs.
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Show AllThe real tragedy is that the whole world thinks burning Korans is worse than drone attacks, rocket attacks, suicide bombings, carpet bombings, mass rape, and so on and so forth. Left, right, center, most people have their asses in place of their heads, this site near the top of that list.
So yes, people believe:
Koran burning is worse than drone attacks
A fence is worse than suicide bombing
Peace with compromise is worse than war without compromise
Which of these do you believe? Hypocrites.
I believe that you, ptips, are an idiot.
i agree saturnalia. 'merka is a war state and we started 2 wars and occupy 2 countries. we have a war economy that lives for constant war.
on cd people are against war and the 2 corporate parties that constantly cheerlead for war and ridiculous military spending.
matt
galveston tx
You wound me. To think that one such as you, a great lover of peace beyond all else, could be enraged. I must be garbage.
Garbage? No. Drama queen, yes.
Iraqis, Afghans and Pakistanis are all victims of 9/11 also. Wouldn't it have been a sign of intelligence and compassion if the 9/11 vigils and demos had acknowledged the utter world destruction that US politicians--Republicans and Democrats--wrought out of ignorance, greed, or other self-interest. Instead, Americans crawled into their provincial, self-pitying world and mourned only their own few losses--while the hundreds of thousands of Muslim victims are ignored.
Exactually, fascist amerikas elitist attitude IS part of the collapse of its empire ! From the top down, the mass murderers in the white house and congress to the deluded masses; amerikans DO NOT care about their terrorist acts, drones and occupations in 3 nations !
Correct, they do not. "We are the good guys. They are the bad guys."
American exceptionalism is the main problem. When Americans wake up and take a good, objective, long look in the mirror - the world would be a much better place.
Don't hold your breath.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis, "It Cant Happen Here", 1935
Chris Matthews was blathering on again last evening regarding American exceptionalism. What a profound idiot he is.
You can't just generalize that's a form of prejudice, which is one of the main problems anyways. American people are all so diverse that it it just naive to try to generalize them. And yes people with money tend to be greedy anywhere you look, not just americans. That still doesn't mean that everyone with money is greedy and most americans are completely broke bc of the government. Yeah our government stinks, most do. so what?
Precisely, tioche, precisely. Your comments are few but right on target when they appear. Thank you.
Quran burning upsets saudi princes and qwaiti sultans as well as al qaida.
that's the only reason why the US elites, inside or outside corporate media, were scolding the small fish idiot in florida. they never miss an opportunity to show their mutual commradery without risking a thing.
Very good point ! Our buddies the Suadis (9/11 highjackers) need to be stroked. If so many Americans do not believe in the wars, then why are we not protesting them ? Why do we keep quiet, and let those drones keep murdering poor people ? We should March in the cities, March on country roads, March until the murders STOP ! The Tea Party may be a bunch of idiots, but at least they are doing something...why are the liberals, and Dems sitting on their thumbs doing nothing ? Every person in a leadership position in this country is corrupt, every single one of them, and yet "we the people" just keep listening to them, and letting them kill in our name with our money as they make billions selling their bombs and shit. Who here on CD is activley doing something to help fix America ?? Please tell me and I will help you. Is this a place to just talk, or is this a place to talk about doing something ?? I am so tired of no body doing anything...I have done many things but I can't do it alone...When will we rise up and speak out loud against the injustices being committed in our names, and done with our money ?? Are you all cowards ? Staying home safe with your opinions ? How many more must die ? Today right now while you sit comfortable in your homes we as a people are killing little children, blowing off their heads...ripping apart their limbs, bloody, bloody killers...you and me ,until we stand up and fight for the truth we will be stained with innocent lives and such horrible sorrow, all for profits of those well dressed idiots on the Hill our Hill, and we don't do a damn thing...Cowards !!
Do you know how to use paragraphs?
Your post illustrates one of the innumerable "mistakes" of the current educational gropers; no offense intended — all the best to you, including the strength to struggle out of the deep hole we're in. "
"We're all in this together."
And do you know how to use punctuation properly? Ending a sentence with a quotation, without the presence of a beginning quotation, makes your criticism of the previous poster's educational background a tad hypocritical.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis, "It Cant Happen Here", 1935
I never critizied anyones educational background, I think what you say, and do, are far more important than if you put the right quotations and spell perfect, you must have me confused with someone else....sorry
Razor, I wasn't responding to your post, but to the poster who criticized your grammar. I was being sarcastic by pointing out to him that HIS post was filled with punctuation errors, while he was criticizing yours.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sorry ,I do not no all the right grammer, and spelling that I should, and this site offers no spell check so my ignorance is for all to see, I was educated pretty good but I haven't been to school in 35 yrs.
razormirror, I ask you again, not to apologize for being real. I and I am sure many others understood what you were saying. The people complaining about your, "grammer and spellin" were not relating to the substance of your communication, only their values which were unrelated to your profound observations.
When you take time to apologize to irrelevance, you are assisting the servants of distraction.
I rather walk with you in the world of reality than someone emersed in BS.
I appreciate and learn from your comments. Hmmm... I wonder if I should have placed a comma after "appreciate". I'm sure someone will let me know.
rasormirror: Having been a Catholic activist for the past ten years, I know many activists and will be flying from Lake Tahoe to Las Vegas tomorrow to be in solidarity with the Creech 14, who protested and crossed the line at Creech AF Base that directs the drones to their targets.I know four of the defendants from past activism.
The problem is that the main media hardly ever covers these protests other than in the local newspaper. I hope this time things will be different. These drones are a big issue and Ramsey Clark will be defending them. Let's keep in touch with our CD posts.
That is good news ! Thankyou ,I am sorry I am ranting and raving, I am just so frustrated !
Don't apologize for being real.
That is good news ! Thankyou ,I am sorry I am ranting and raving, I am just so frustrated !
This ia an excellent essay.
There is one needed correction though. Kathy Kelly and the "Creech 14" who are facing trial September 14 were not trespassing at a drone manufacturing plant but the Creech Air Force Base that controls by computer the delivery of the dones.
Wow!! Title of this report says it all.
What a great question!!!
" The U.S. media rarely even questioned the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and when it did, the questions asked rarely centered on the civilian deaths, which at best were seen as inevitable incidents of war and, at worst, as necessary collateral damage ". That is the MSM whores and presstitutes way of brainwashing the sheeple. Turn off T.V. News; especially Foxy News! Someone called it an idiot box and I call it news for idiots! Because whether the American sheeple know it or not, they are like the good Germans reading what Geobbels called news in Nazi Germany. One example: when we kill innocent civilians, no outrage from our corporate press and we get a plethora of euphemistic lies, but when our troops are killed, who are not innocent civilians and do not belong there, the Media calls it " A DEADLY AMBUSH. When our drones kill innocent men, women and children it is never called " A DEADLY AMBUSH ".
Another example of this was the press reporting on the loss of troops to a suspect sniper.
The sniper (a Taliban) was labled as "ruthless and brutal". His favorite targets were British and American snipers whose deaths were "tragedies" and who were labled as "victims".
Such articles are framed to make it look that every "enemy" a "Coward and brute" while the allied troops are "Courageous and self sacrificing".
Drone attacks are always justified when done against Civilian compounds with the followup that "equipment for making IED devices found there". If a Boeing factory bombed by some "Terrorist" with an IED it would be proof that the enemy "Murderous and has no concern for human life".
[Such articles are framed to make it look that every "enemy" a "Coward and brute" while the allied troops are "Courageous and self sacrificing".]
And these articles have been around in every war ever fought. The ancients had the same lack of objectivity that we do when it comes to lauding the brave soldiers who fight for 'us' and vilifying those dastardly barbarians who fight for 'them'...
I wrote this after our local newspaper had published an interview with a young American sniper. HE obviously took great pride in his skill, describing some kills.
---------------------------------
I am a Terrorist - 2
Once I was a hunter.
My rifle and I were one.
My stealth became a legend,
I never failed to bag my game.
All through my youth,
The larder was always full.
I watch him grazing, watching over his herd
His eyes are alert, but he watches for wolves,
Panthers, coyotes, skulkers close at hand.
He doesn’t know I am watching him
From a quarter mile away.
I caress the trigger and watch him leap and sag and die.
I am still a hunter,
But now my game is man.
The army said I am a natural.
They trained me well
And gave me precision weapons.
They call me a sniper.
I look through the scope at my distant foe,
Smiling to myself at his unsuspecting face.
I watch him as he goes about his business
Then I caress the trigger and watch his expression
As the slug slams home and he realizes his death.
Just like shooting deer in the valley, it’s fun.
What will I do when there is no war or my enlistment is up?
Work in some damned office or wind up pumping gas?
Somehow, wild game has lost its luster, but I am still a hunter.
I know there will be a place for me, the right agency, the mob,
Some country that needs my skills.
All I need to do is watch the right want ads.
Sometimes I’ll gutshoot my target,
Let him scream for a while to shake up all his friends,
But then I’ll fire again and put him out of his misery.
It is not a nice thing to do, but they tell me it is war,
And all things are fair in war they say.
I know nothing about love.
I no longer care, for it is all one to me.
Right now I am a patriot, but that means nothing
I win medals for doing what I love.
Some day I may find myself the hunted
With a bounty on my head, but that makes no difference
For I am a hunter and I live to kill.
Steve Osborn
16 May 2004
This was inspired by an interview with a young American sniper that appeared in a local paper.
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And so it goes on, and on, and on.
"Why does the US government think burning Qurans is less civilized than drone attacks on civilian populations?"
Political correctness. Otherwise known as knee-jerk liberalism or liberal fascism. Corporate media is full of it, and "progressive media," with few exceptions, is too.
I do not see it as any of those things. I see it as "Branding of a Product" for the purposes of selling it to a gullible public.
In this case the "Product" being sold is WAR and in order to sell the product WAR one must convince the public that YOUR side the "White hats". Even the members of Hitlers Wehrmacht and SS were convinced they were the "good guys" fighting "evil".
This burning of the Quran has all the makings of a classic psy-ops. People come out of it believing the Governmnet of the USA and its media were so concerned over the loss of Human life such an incident might lead to they called out to stop it , while at the same time those same People left with the impression that the Muslim is so "Irrational" they would kill people over the burning of a book.
Agreed. One correction, however. Change your sentence:
"..the USA and its media were so concerned over the loss of Human life such an incident might lead to they called out to stop it."
to
"...the USA and is media were so concerned over the loss of AMERICAN life..."
The US doesn't give a rat's butt about any life but Americans'. This is why
"We don't do body counts," (Donald "Hitler" Rumsfeld) and why we officially refer to any casualty other than U.S. casualties as "collateral damage."
It is also why Americans, by and large, are not even remotely shocked by reports that the U.S. has killed over 100,000 civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. 100,000 - pfft. Who gives a shit? Just a bunch of raghead nobodies. But 3,000 AMERICANS killed on 9/11: outrage! horror! shock!
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis, "It Cant Happen Here", 1935
"But 3,000 AMERICANS killed on 9/11: outrage! horror! shock!"
And, yet, when 50,000 are killed on our highways each year, and another 50,000 by guns, it's all just a big "ho hum". Maybe that's why a hundred thousand dead here, a hundred thousand dead there, and another hundred thousand dead somewhere else on the globe most of us couldn't find to save our lives is just another meaningless number, just another meaningless statistic.
Our exceptional American values seem to me to be somewhat skewed. Americans kill. That is what we do.
Very, very well said.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
because striking out against someone else's culture and beliefs is as unhuman as killing someone especially if it brings support for hatred with it.
Americans - do you know anything about anything ?? Today I spoke to an American family and in the midst of our conversation asked why they were demanding the reversal of the Scottish decision to release Megrahi when they know damn well the man is innocent and refuse to release documents to prove this is so. The answer " We dont know anything about that - We look outside the door and its the same as any other day." This from "well educated" citizens (one of whom was an Officer of Homeland Security). Or your young 18 year old drone pilots playing "video games" murdering countless innocents in Afghanistan and Pakistan. One million people in London protested the Iraq War, and Blair is in self imposed exile. There has to be a day of reckoning.
"Americans - do you know anything about anything ??"
It pains me to say so, but I'm afraid the answer to your question, sadly, is collectively:
"No we don't, and we like it like that."
I myself have only heard a few things about the evidence that Megrahi was innocent, but my view was that, even if he was guilty of the Pan-Am 103/Lockerbe bombing, releasing him and allowing him to return to Libya to die of his terminal illness at home was a proper and compassionate act. God bless the Scottish people!
I suspect that the USAn family you were speaking to didn't have a clue who Megrahi was, or maybe even anything about Pan Am 103. The bombing was 22 years ago, and Megrahis release was a year ago. Corporate-media-induced amnesiac USAns, even educated ones, are challenged to remember important events even 6 months ago.
For example, right now in my neighborhood, all anyone cares about is that the Pittsburgh Steelers USAn-football team won a game.
Enjoy your visit to this utterly fucked up piece of our dear Earth which inappropriately expropriates the word "America" to describe itself. I hope you have a new appreciation of your home land when you return.
I guess the USA thinks it is ok to burn a Koran a long as a muslim child is holding it at the time.
that is sick and just another generalization. just because there are some crazy people do something for attention in a country doesn't mean that it's a consensus. I for one am repulsed by it.
Without even reading the article it is a great question.
The US unmanned armed drone program is an outrageous violation of international law, not to mention basic human decency. That any signatory of the Geneva Conventions could be so arrogant, ruthless, and just plain stupid in committing such heinous crimes defies all reason.
Unless, of course, the people who actually run the US from behind the scenes are bent on seeing us destroyed. Then our military misadventures do begin to make some sense.
The implications of historical precedent for world domination via brute force might well be lost on the nauseating little puppets masquerading as our representatives inside the Beltway, but I get the distinct feeling these lessons have not been lost on those who pull their strings.
I think we're slated for destruction.
yep we are...
We are indeed "slated" in that direction, in my humble opinion. By the ones who would appear to be controlling things.
However, 'they' do not run the universe, so to speak. Let's not empower them more than necessary. They are not that creative, because they are innately limited in their view of humanity and reality. This is very obvious.
This means that we can go beyond the box that 'they' are in and want us in.
Time to get really creative. Like we have never known before.
That song: WE ARE ON THE EVE OF DESTRUCTION, seems appropriate now.
The administrations job is to convice the world that they intend to win a clean non religious war.
"Hey I got my own Muslems fighting the other Muslems now so don't make this a religious war by burning Moslem Bibles'.... is what I hear is the main concern out of Washington these days.
It's a nine year unwinnable war and nobody can say "War economy" or shut up and keep a job.
This seems to put a lie to President Rodney King's 'Why Can't We All Get Along' mindset.
American aggression and war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan have little to do with the Muslim cultures or race. While those concepts are discussed over and over again, the real issue is rarely discussed even by "progressive" writers who exhibit incompetence equaled only by "conservative" pundits.
The unfortunate truth and historic coincidence is that there happens to be a lot of oil under the lands of various Muslim nations. Even America's blind support for Israel grew out of the post WWII policy of creating a military puppet state in close proximity to Middle East oil.
The American corporate fascists in power do not have much of a cultural or racial agenda. Their brand of imperialism is primarily about the money that can be made via war itself as well as the spoils and the long term economic leverage they hope to gain with global corporate hegemony via militaristic aggression.
But since it is necessary to have a mass delusion of sorts for popular consumption to justify war crimes, the cultural/religious issues do manage to creep into the public collective "mind". It is necessary to objectify and demonize the victims of imperialism in order make killing and stealing socially and nationally acceptable, or even be thought of as a honorable activity when it is simply a very cruel and unusual form of murder.
Unfortunately, the average American and typical soldier are more ignorant and full of cultural prejudice than the elite power people. This mindset is how they justify killing without remorse and raise murder to the level of being an honorable nationalistic activity.
And in the case of what is going on now with predator drones, I think the label "terrorist" becomes a smokescreen used as an excuse to kill the innocent from the sky by remote control. And any Afghan fighting to end our Pipelineistan occupation is considered to be a "terrorist", when in fact they are freedom fighters....etc.
And by now, the words Muslim and terrorist have been smeared together in the brave new world of fascist America....etc.
The brouhaha surrounding the Quran is nothing more than a distraction to further confuse the already bewildered and generally uninformed American people.