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Israel Invited to Join Anti-Nuclear Pact
VIENNA - The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog has invited Israel to consider joining a global anti-nuclear arms pact and to place all its atomic facilities under his agency's inspections, an IAEA report said on Friday.
In this file photo made from a video which aired Friday, Jan. 7, 2005 by Israeli television station Channel 10, shows Israel's top secret nuclear facility in the southern Israeli town of Dimona, according to the broadcaster. (AP Photo/Channel 10, File) The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report said Director General Yukiya Amano met with Israeli leaders during a visit to Israel last month to discuss an Arab-led push for the Jewish state to accede to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
By staying outside the NPT, Israel has maintained secrecy over a programme widely believed to have yielded the region's only atomic arsenal -- perceived as an irritant and threat among its neighbours.
The issue is expected to be debated again at IAEA board and general assembly meetings later this month in Vienna. Amano's report was prepared for those meetings.
Western countries, which see Iran as the region's main nuclear proliferation threat, have warned that singling out Israel could jeopardise broader steps aimed at banning weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.
(Reporting by Fredrik Dahl and Sylvia Westall; Editing by Louise Ireland)
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Show All"Western countries, which see Iran as the region's main nuclear proliferation threat, have warned that singling out Israel could jeopardise broader steps aimed at banning weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East."
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Wouldn't George Orwell love this one? "Doublespeak" ring a bell?
Iran is the main threat while Israel sits there with a couple hundred nuclear weapons? Expecting and honesty from the US Gov and its client states is a fools game!
"Doublespeak" is exactly the right word.
Actually, I think it is "newspeak."
Here's the official bumper sticker of doublespeak/newspeak whatever you call it hypocrisy.
http://www.nonukesforiran.org/
Damn!! I was going to make exactly the same point. Good on you.
Good point. Reuters is following M$M talking points.
If you were Israel would you join the NNPT? Why?
On the one hand you have to have foreigners inspect your facilities, you would have to tell the world officially that you have nuclear weapons and possibly how many and how they are designed to be delivered. Explaining that would be tough.
On the other hand, you get support for civilian nuclear programs. I don't think Israel really needs that help.
Pakistan and India aren't members and aren't facing any boycotts for it. Iran is a member and is getting boycotted and sanctioned.
I just don't think there is any upside for Israel to join so I really doubt they will. However, I bet that they negotiate it for years.
Sorry, wrong. Israel desperately needs international (US) help to build civilian nuclear reactors. Read the Israeli newspapers. Israel is pressing the US to get a situation similar to India's where they could get the assistance and allow inspection of the civilian program while maintaining secrecy over the military program. - Why did the US ever undercut the nonproliferation regime by that agreement with India? - All indications are that the US is quite willing, as usual , to accommodate Israel, but the rest of the world is balking. Israel desperately wants nuclear power to get away from its fossil fuel dependency.
"Rest of the world..." I am unfamiliar with this term. For Israel there is the US, others, and enemies and while there isn't a lot of daylight differentiating each, their getting whatever nuclear help they need from the US is not dependent on them being part of the NNPT. (Nor contingent upon thier occupying Palestine, terrorizing their neighbors, threatening Iran, attacking the peace flotilla or anything else. ...)
I am just making the point that Israel doesn't need to join the NNPT because her one ally, the US, doesn't care. Regardless of what you think you can do in Washington, this country is not going to change at an official level ever.
The most "progressive" president that we've had in a generation and he's done squat. When a Republican wins in 2012 and every indication is that if they run a dead goat with a batman cape and high heels, they will win... What about then? You think that guy is going to give Israel any more whatfor than the current one does? Nope.
If there were any threat of that then I would say Israel ought to consider it, but I think they simply don't need to and given the calculus right now, they would be foolish to do so.
"When a Republican wins in 2012 and every indication is that if they run a dead goat with a batman cape and high heels, they will win..."
Yep..sounds like Mitt Romney to me...
If I was Israel I would dismantle all settlements, return to the 1967 borders, make peace with the new Palestinian state, get rid of all my nuclear weapons and join the international community.
One is reminded of "The Sierra Madre". "I don't got to show you no stinken bombs.". (poetic license)
...have warned that singling out Israel could jeopardise broader steps aimed at banning weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.
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Reuters has a history of fronting CIA propaganda.
This incomprehensible sentence can only lead one to conclude that the spooks still operate at Reuters.
ISRAEL -- $3 BILLION A YEAR MILITARY CONTRACTOR
Israel was created in 1949 by the U.S. military, actually their first experiment at privatizing the military. For just imagine what the world reaction would be if U.S. troops invaded and now occupied Palestine.
And so, the Illusion of an Atomic Energy Agency, this is the IAEA. For if it had been doing it’s job, long ago it would have announced to the world that there be over 500 A-bombs in Israel, a free gift from the US and still kept under lock and key by the US.
Sen. Brown (R - MA), as with all Republicans, fights for High Society and the Country Club class, Democrats fight for the intelligent middle-class, and the result being that we in the lower half of society can’t even scrape together the $35 needed to get a sick kid into the doctor’s office. Democracy, spare us the misery of it.
Calling Israel a "contractor" is facetious, at best. Contractors generally return a product or service for their money. Israel is a black hole that gives it's sugar-daddy the finger.
When calling Congress "occupied territory," it specifically refers to the Democrats, which services the Israel Lobby. The Republican contribution doesn't amount to a hill of beans, no matter how loud they talk.
$35!!!!
You can get a doctor appointment for $35???
How's this for a future headline. "Isreal drops US, allies with Russia".
This raises the issue, if Israel were offered $4 billion a year to be a military contractor for Russia, could it still be a $3 billion a year war contractor for Empire USA?
I say yes, look at their joint sanctions on Iran.
For World War Three, will it not be the white European race against China?
This is a no-brainer; our little favorite cousin can join the IAEA for the positive publicity/ face value and continue to do whatever they please, just like we do. Is there any international law, treaty, or convention that we have fully supported and abided by? Our small partner is also very good at secrets and clandestine ops so it's merely a matter of whether Israel cares much about good publicity. The basic facts of Israel's (and our) nuclear possessions, plans, and purposes will not change either way.
No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it still stinks downwind.
Israel open its nuke facilities to international inspection? Now that's really funny.
Maybe we should use Israel's tactics, and threaten to bomb their facilities unless they join the treaty.
After all the Jewish people have been through, after the millions of exterminations during World War II, would you really expect the Israeli nation to act any other way? Self-preservation has got to be their mantra. Those countries over there are as close as one state to another in the U.S. If Kansas were continually threatening Missouri, would they let down their guard? Come on, be reasonable. Or am I way off base here? Comments, please.
True enough, except that I would unpack "mantra", peel away the wrapping tissue of "obsession", and drill down to the "paranoid psychosis" inside.
Yes, all Jews are psychotic. It's in their blood. Right? Am I right, guys?
WTF????
The new troll, now with extra nuts.
It is possible ,it can happen for a period.Between 1930 to 1945 the Germans, who thought of themselves as a superior race,did go somewhat insane.Not all perhaps, must most of those that mattered.
Israelis must get this virus of irrationality and aggressiveness out of their body politic.
"Obiedent Servant", what the hell are you saying exactly???
JZYLDY, I agree! Why should they?
When you talk about how much the Jews have suffered, look at how the Jewish power structure, mainly the Zionist faction and the Orthodox branch, are reacting. Not with what is regarded as Jewish tradition, but rather with variations on the way they were treated by the Nazis. Tell me that the leader of one of the political parties in Netanyahu's coalition who just called for the assassination of Abbas is not a Nazi at heart. The only difference is that instead of Jews, he is demonizing Palestinians. And don't even try to make me believe that these types wouldn't try to exterminate the Palestinians if they thought they could get away with it.
But Israel doesn't have any nukes.. *Wink wink*
Israel has one agenda and that is to occupy the land of the Arabs. They have used the Holocaust as an excuse to get whatever wanted from France, Britain and the United States, and have a stock pile of nukes. Along with Bush, Israel threatened Iran to nuke them and tried other means to get a reaction as an excuse to strike. I believe that was the real reason for the Gaza massacre. When Iran mentioned Nukes of course they have sanctions placed upon the country, and now strikes against the oil pipe lines, just to start another war, Israel style. Feel sorrow for the Jews of the Holocaust but none since 1968. The land was Palestine until it was stolen from the Jews, and now Israel. Israel is the threat and the United States paired off with Israel when Bush took office, to spread the hate against Muslims.
Ah yes, the old nation of Palestine. When was it formed? Who were its leaders? Did it have laws? A monarchy? A constitution? Please remind us.
What a bunch of brain-washed propaganda; "Spread the hate against Muslims". Jerusalem has belonged to the Jews for almost 2,000 years. Mecca belongs to the Muslims let Jerusalem belong to the Jews it has ALWAYS been THEIR holy land!!! (and btw..I'm not even Jewish!!!) I'm sick of all this anti-semitic shit that somehow gets passed off as "progressive"! There's nothing "progressive" about it...hating Jews is as old as time! Anyway, Jews aren't sending extremist groups to blow up our cities and Jews don't have the goal to dominate and convert the world to Judaism, Muslims do! Jews don't abase, abuse and murder their wives, daughters and sisters either! Everything about the culture/religion/government/monster that is Islam is anti-woman, anti-tolerant of others and anti-freedom..all this "peace-loving muslim" junk is LIES and propaganda. I found this out the hard way! Because I believed and trusted what I THOUGHT were genuine friends who happened to be Muslim. The truth is, they are TAUGHT and brain-washed to lie outwardly. i didn't believe it myself at first. Talk to Muslims that have converted to Christianity for a glimpse of the truth.
I have a difficult time taking you seriously. The Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem before 100 AD by the Romans, The Diaspora, remember? Since then it has been occupied by Moslems, Crusaders and only recently have the Jews "owned" it.
And your knowledge of Islam is on par with your knowledge of Mid East history.
You're right, it hasn't "belonged" to them physically/politically...in my emotion I did not notice my word choice. To clarify, from a religious/spiritual perspective Jerusalem has "belonged to " (was given to them by God) the Jews...what I really mean to say is that Jerusalem IS and ALWAYS has been their Holiest of Holies, it is their heart. If you had a child that you loved with all your heart, because they were your own and they were the most important thing on earth to you...and someone came and took that child away from you, is that child any less your child? I'm talking about what is morally right, not what is politically true. The Palestinians SHOULD allow the Jews to have their Jerusalem, just as they have their Mecca. But, we all KNOW that neither side will ever give in. If Jews are acting viciously to defend her (Jerusalem) it is because they are surrounded on all sides by people who want to rip her from them. This is not about a political piece of dirt for Jews. It embodies all that is sacred to them!!!
Could you just imagine the instant peace you would get if you came up with a virus that eliminated that part of humans that will kill for some invisable god in the sky?
Short of that arm'em all the the teath and stand back. There won't be 2500 people in the entire middle east in a year. They can be quietly euthanized in the name of world peace.
I've lived with this non-sence my whole life, Presidents. Popes. and Clerics have tried to make a peace.. it's time to admit it's not possible.
Arm'em and watch the Kilkenny-Kats go after each other. Film it as a warning to future generations.
>^^<
dear trustfew:
and Scarlett O'Hara will always have Tara. I wonder what happened to that? The U.S. will keep its Indian treatries as long as grass grows and rivers run... You know, quite a few of the things you say about Israel's needs and desires and scaredness can apply equally to the Palestinians.
I saw pictures of that wall going up on Palestinian land and saw the grief and saddness of the families whose familial heritage of their land was taken from them by Israel and the wall. I'm sorry, but what's in your heart and your acrions is the moral truth, and everything else is just political or religious grandstanding.
Like many people, I am tired of hearing Israel play the victim when they are really operating as the victimizer. The farther away people are from the time of the WW II holocaust, the easier this is to see. More and more colleges are studying Nabka, and the one sided Israeli viewpoint story is not computing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia
{..The Runnymede report identified eight perceptions related to Islamophobia:
1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2. It is seen as separate and "other." It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3. It is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
4. It is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
5. It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
6. Criticisms made of "the West" by Muslims are rejected out of hand.
7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal.[23]...}
...peace...
Oh trustfew:
you had some friends that were Muslim and they lied to you, but isn't that a giant leap of confusion to make all Muslims bad? You know, a lot of guys have lied to me, but I haven't given up on dating.
Yes, all Muslims are liars. It's in their blood. Right? Am I right, guys?
also, it is crazy Maddy to say that Israel's agenda is to occupy the land of the Arabs. How would they even begin to dream that up? Look at a map, Israel is surrounded on all sides with predominantly Muslim nations. Why would the nation be thinking about taking over other people's land when she can't even hold on to her own?? I'm not gonna be plotting to snatch someone's purse across the road while I'm busy beating off my own muggers!!
This is a joke, right ?
. Jews and Muslims
got along for centuries in what can be called the Holy Land. Modern Zionism has forced an angry confrontation between them that needs to end, immediately.
We sanctioned, boycotted and divested from South Africa to end racial apartheid, and we can
do the same in Israel. Invite the other half of Israel to address Congress, not the West Bank and Gaza occupiers.
AIPAC and the Israel lobby are dominated by ZIonists, but approximately 50% of Israel wants a
two-state solution to happen now, with our guidance, let's hear from them for a change.
Younger Jews in Israel and the US want to end the occupation, and are sick of Israel's aggression, let's hear from them.
Hamas will recognize israel once Israel becomes a country with a well defined border, the
internationally accepted Green Line. Let sanity prevail for a change.
Muslims have never "gotten along" with anyone.
Trust few
"Muslims have never "gotten along" with anyone". And pray tell which of it's neighbours does the Zionist state "get along" with?
More Islamaphobia wrapped up as a nice bit of projection don't you think?
Every nation surrounding Israel is now predominantly Muslim. Israel knows that Muslims don't want to truly live at peace with Jews but that they want to convert or kill them. Are Jews doing the same to Palestinians, Yes!!! But if your children were being hacked to death before your eyes you would be surprised what you are capable of doing too. Desperate people do desperate things. It's easy for us (esp those of us who are non-Jewish) to jump on the politically correct Palestine bandwagon, but the "information" all of us are getting is biased. Every news story has an agenda and is bought and paid for by someone. Of course, NO ONE SHOULD have nukes, no one SHOULD engage in ethnic battles...but that fact is that people always have, and always will, and the U.S. (just like most other power nations) is only "outraged" when and if it is conviently corresponding with their current agenda. There is leftist propaganda and rightwing propaganda and very little Truth mixed in that we are left to tease out. One thing I do know is that Jews have called Jerusalem their holy land since there have been Jews and the city is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible no less than 669 times. Jerusalem is not once mentioned by name in the Koran although later interpretations have suggested that texts from Koran referring to the city a few times, just not by name. for example Qur'an 17:1 refers to "the farthest place" which Muslims have since interpreted as Jerusalem.
A very in depth and seemingly fair article is written in The MiddleEast Forum by Daniel Pipes. (meforum.org then go to Archives, then Articles by topic, then Jerusalem, then "The Muslim claim to Jerusalem") It's a very lengthy and thoughtfully researched piece and is worth reading in it's entirety, but though many valid point son either side are batted back and forth, the author's conclusion is the same as my own. In his words "Jerusalem will never be more than a secondary city for Muslims"..and is only even of that import because of political motivations not spiritual ones. The Mosque that was built on the Temple Mount was done so as strategy to create the appearance of spiritual importance. The fact remains that Muslims enjoy an undivided Mecca (and they should!), so Jews should be able to enjoy an undivided Jerusalem. I don't agree with violence of any kind toward anyone, BUT..if my children, my loved ones, my sacred city was being threatened I would do what I had to protect it.
Dear trustfew:
It is very hard to take you seriously when you have so many generalizations about Islam. I am just starting to read about it now, and this religion too, took many ideas from the Old Testament, and by the way, their claim on East Jersudalem is just as valid as the zionists . ( notice that I do spearate the Jewish people from zionists.)
For some reason Israel doesn't seem to sign very many treaties that the rest of the world's nations do.Why is that? To have a secret pile of nuclear weapons is that hot button WMD word, isn't it? Why can Israel hide its information and Iran may not? So it seems that Israel has WMDs, but no one cares?
There was a very good article in the Smithsonian some time back re: the history of Iran, and how Dulles and Eisenhower were so freaked out about 'communism," that the U.S. for all intents and purposes took down a" working democracy." The rise of theocracy in that nation seems to be from the unintended consequences of what the U.S. did.
By the way, in the Old Testament, it does state that there was a tribe was already in Jerusalem, and the city got its name from them. Of course, the tribes of the Old Testament are fond of burning down cities and killing everything in them, all the people and animals too. Ironically, the Palestinians seem to have been in that area consistently, although the Jewish people were there off and on. Taking your logic of "Who's on first.." we would have to give all of the U.S. land back to the Indians, or if you didn't want to go that far back, to the Puritans, who were very freaky fascists people! Forget about celebrating Christmas, of course, our merchants wouldn't stand for that!
I also don't think that the media favors Palestinians over Jewish people; it does seem to be the opposite and Congress certainly disses Palestine a lot! Why did Helen Thomas lose her job? It wasn't because of a pro-Palestine press or Congress. Why could that weird " Joe guy" stand up in Congress and scream"you lie" to the president and no one got upset? Why couldn't Helen Thomas give her opinion and keep her job? Joe kept his job. That sort of sounds like pto-Israel press to me.
Why did so few nations condemn the flotilla murders? Why did Israel and the U.S. refuse to recognize the government that the Palestinians voted for? Why can Israel claim international waters that everyone else agrees ARE international waters?
As I look at the history of the U.S. and Isreal and Palestine, I do see a decided dissing of Palestine. If Israel wants to be taken seriously, it really needs to join the other nations that have agreements and keep them.
I have read lots of religious information ( and I still am) from many different times and religions, and the sadddest part to me really is the Old testament. In Joshua, the story goes, God gave all the land of the Middle East to the 12 tribes. This includes all the land up to the Euphrates! OMG, Bush and his Gog and Magog, and Cheney and his mammon, did exactly what Israel wanted. You see , we really do need a separation of church and state, because other people's religions are killling so many in so many different lands.We also have seen video from Netanyahu declaring that he can move the U.S. any way he wants! Wow, and I thought we had some kind of republic independent of Israel. If Israel wasn't so agressive, would all the surrounding nations fight them? Didn't Israel just attack Jordan over who owned a tree?
The Jewish nation could be a wonderful nation, but it seems that the zionists have turned it into a Return to of the Old Testament, ( the sequal) killing killing and more killing. Then screwing up because they disobeyed God, and losing again. Then killing and killing, and screwing up etc. etc.
The only value of the Old Testament to me is the 10 Commandmenst, but so very few seem to follow them. That would include, Israel, the "coveting your neighbors property," and that goes double for the U.S. Your final comment that if your" sacred city" were being attacked, that you would defend it too, well in exactly those same words which you've expressed, is the Palestinain position too.
There aren't any "other," there are just US, and for Israel to seem to want to make so many others the "OTHER," then that does seem to invalidate their personal holocaust. To repeat a horror which was done to them, seems to negate any God and any religion. But then, I suppose that's why people invented the New Testament, because those chapters seem to leave the old killing God behind, and brought a softer kinder side to the next religion. All religions do have positive ideas for how humans should behave, but all of them at some point break their own rules, whether it's a country's leaders or just individual people. I'm sorry to disagree with you, but Israel is breaking a lot of rules right now. If there is a God, then starving and denegrating your neighbors just make no sense to me, and these actions would not make any sense to a real religion, if anyone had one.