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War Bill Could Be Stopped Today With 144 Votes
Antiwar Democrats have a rare opportunity to knock down a war funding bill, just days after Wikileaks released more than 90,000 documents confirming their worst fears about the direction of the conflict.
The House is bringing the bill up under a suspension of the rules, which require a two-thirds vote. Only 144 votes would be needed to to stop the war funding. The vote is expected to occur mid-afternoon.
The most recent vote on war money came July 1 and included an amendment to fund the military occupation only for the purpose of withdrawal. That measure drew 162 votes of support. A tougher amendment -- to cut off funds entirely -- garnered but a hundred votes.
The new House vote is required because the administration threatened to veto the House bill since it rescinded a small amount of education money for one program in order to offset other spending on education, police, firefighters and other state employees. The program that was cut was a pet project of Education Secretary Arne Duncan. Appropriations Committee Chairman Dave Obey told the Fiscal Times that the administration had recommended cutting food stamps instead.
Duncan's victory is a Pyrrhic one, as his strident objections led to all of the education funds being taken out, which will lead to tens of thousands of teacher layoffs. Duncan was objecting to the loss of $800 million in unspent funds that had been dedicated to his "Race to the Top" reform. Instead, he lost the entire $15 billion. Obey said today he will oppose the stripped-down bill.
The bill includes unpaid-for war money and some funds for aid to Gulf states, Haiti and veterans. But much was taken out.
"Once again, war is being paid for with a credit card while investments in our children's future are tossed aside. These investments -- $10 billion for teacher jobs, $1 billion for summer youth employment, $5 billion for Pell grants, $701 million for border security -- were cut from the war funding bill coming to the House floor despite being fully paid for and not adding to the budget deficit," wrote a group of progressive House Democrats Tuesday, announcing their intention to oppose the bill. "They have been jettisoned in favor of further borrowed war spending. Today's bill doesn't include anything to maintain first responder, police or firefighter positions despite the dramatic need for those jobs in every community in America. We believe this is fiscal insanity and a moral tragedy."
The White House veto threat, combined with a GOP filibuster, was enough to defeat the funding bill in the Senate. On July 22nd, the Senate sent the stripped-down war funding bill back to the House, leading to Tuesday's showdown. Nine years into the war, the Senate approved funding on a voice vote.
"Stop cramming our wealth into the gullet of the military-industrial complex. No more money for the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds. No more money for the Tajiks, the Hazaras and the Pushtuns. Charity begins at home," wrote Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) in a letter to supporters.
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), in a briefing with reporters Tuesday, pinned the blame on the GOP for cutting social spending and insisted the troops on the field must be given the resources they need. "We very much regret that the Republicans again put our efforts at making sure 140,000 teachers aren't laid off -- the Republicans opposed that. There were a number of other items [in the war bill] including Build America Bonds, infrastructure growth of jobs that the Republicans opposed, and so the supplemental was sent back to us as exactly the same thing the Senate sent us, which we thought was incomplete," he said.
"The supplemental deals with funding those troops that we have in the field now. Those troops are there; they've been deployed by us; they've been given a mission. That mission has been, I think the president of the United States made it a mission that is a doable mission and is a mission that the military and the civilian leadership of the military -- the commander in chief -- agree with. And they're pursuing it. Now, we may want to reconsider that in Congress. The administration may want to reconsider it. There may be further debate about it but the fact is those troops are there now and money to fund those troops -- we're told by the Pentagon -- will be depleted as of the 7th of August, so that whatever we decide on policy in the longer term does not in my opinion affect our obligation today to make sure that the troops, as long as they're there, have the resources they need. So I think that the policy issue is one thig, the reality of the troops on the group and the support that they need, the resources they need, is an immediate demand. Until we bring them home, they need that money."
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Show AllWell, well, well, funding the war....If we don't fund it, most of our soldiers, will have to come home. Sounds good to me. Then we can start to use our money to turn our Country Green, and stop killing people for Oil. We can do it. We need to think big, like all the other times in our history when we pulled together as one Nation and overcame our obsticles. I hate to think of us not taking this time in our history to make the changes that will over time improve all of our lives.
We could re-deploy the US miltary to raiding and shutting down overseas factories that import their products to the US while violating US worker safety and environmental regulations.
Such a re-deployment might slow down he tide of US companies moving jobs overseas.
Lo and Behold, the Democrats are pulling the old we have troops in the field with a mission and we have to give them the resources they need for however long they are there and of course we tie it into teachers jobs so those nasty Republicans either vote for the war funding and let the teachers keep their jobs or don't vote for it and put the troops in harms way... blah blah blah. Not that the Republicans don't also find creative ways to continue blood and war. The troops were put in harm's way for no good reason and they are kept there for no good reason and to get them out of harm's way, just bring them home and end all of this. The mission has never been defined nor how the mission will be ended, so we must continue to vote more money until the end of time it appears. Where are the guts to just pull them out and stop wasting the money on killing and fantasy missions?
The mission is limited to providing an eternal revenue stream for the military industrial media complex. Corporate welfare at its finest !
I'm watching this live on house of representative sites. It's sad when the wall street journal gets used as a credible source for the war in afghanistan.
The Wall Street Journal is a major mouthpiece for the miltary industrial media complex.
I'm not sure any votes are needed to stop this war. It seems to me that Nancy Pelosi could stop this war in its tracks by simply refusing to allow a funding bill to come to the floor.
She refused to let impeachment bills against Bush, Cheney et.al. come to the floor. Why can't she refuse to let war funding bills come to the floor?
yeah, I know....
Going after the Dubya Regime would have shined the light on just how complicit the Democrats were and are in the Regime's crimes.
You are absolutely right, but the Likud wants even more war. How could the Likud lie and manipulate the US congress into a war on Iran if the congress was focused on ending insane wars.
"Every War Has Two Losers" great movie, www.everywar.com/about.html
If leaders had hearts connected to the heads, and the common man had heads to match their hearts, war would not exist.
If only the sisterhood would leverage their intuitions and compassion, stopping the ultimate annihilation man progresses onward toward, so that common sense prevails,
& peace triumphs the injustices of war. Centuries of men's ways have brought nothing to the table .... why continue with their senselessness ?
Thinking it does not affect 'me' today, means one is not thinking. One grows weary of praying for families left orphaned, decade and decade.
Our options are immense.
Women in government have been warmongers as well, but religion and tribalism certain seem to be the big drivers of war and strife in recent times.
The US was clearly lied into wars by Likud in the US and israel. On the eve of the invasion of Iraq, Sharon also tried to get the US to attack all of israel's enemies. And now the present Likud leader nit-wit-ya-hoo, is trying to manipulate the US into bombing Iran. He brags about lying, and how easy it is to manipulate the US.
The Likud has become like a mad dog that bites even the hand that feeds it.
The ruling elite is the driver of war, always has been.
You won't believe this. More war on the way.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/rss/eo20100726a2.html
Don't hold your breath! These traitors have sworn their allegiance to military contractors, Israel and their bank accounts. They'll drive this place into the ground and escape to Halliburton's corporate headquarters in Dubai. Time to clean house. As Lewis Black said, "The Republicans are the party of bad ideas. The Democrats are the party of no ideas." So, no Republicans, no Democrats, all Third Parties!
If you think this bill will be stopped then you truly don't understand the nature of this system.
It is a corporate totalitarian system, not a democracy. Profit and hegemonic power drives this system, in the name of empire. It will not be stopped by a blemish such as the wikileaks docs, no matter how important that was.
the only concession that may happen is that it may allow some decoupling of domestic spending in the bill tied to the war.
otherwise, it's full steam ahead.
I thought that the comment was sound. Who flagged it ???
Who flagged it ??? Good question.
Questionable and wholly spurious flaggings have become a daily occurrence at CD. It's impossible to tell whether they arise from spite, stupidity, cowardice, or some combination of these qualities.
I even wondered if they could be done be accident, but since there's more involved than just clicking the button, I don't see how.
Maybe it's the Attitude Police.
The House voted for more death and destruction 308-114.
Afghan war costs will top those in Iraq this year for the first time since the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003. Costs this year will total more than those in all but two years of former President George W. Bush’s administration. The bill would bring total war expenses to $1.1 trillion.
The bill is H.R. 4899.
Any questions folks?
Anyone who supports either party is complicit in the policies put forth and carried out by these mobsters. If you vote Dem or Repub you too are responsible for the bloody actions of the imperial juggeranut.
I believe the deliberate wars were planned before George Bush became president, and the reason his father did every dirty trick to get him elected. The family Dynasty to conquer the Middle East, with the help of Israel? Probably the reason Israel is allowed to get away with the Astrocities that other countries are being sanctioned for, or Droned. It is also interesting as has been said before, why the Bush family friends, the bin Ladens just happen to be on visit with Bush when the 9/11 attack occured, and why their plane was the only one allowed to be in the air.
I've contacted the roughly 100 Obama supporters in my area (durring his campaign someone forgot to Bcc the group email). The message was much more tactful than this, but simply put:
END THIS WAR!!!!!!
Gee...did you contact that war monger Obama too? It's not like he's doing anything for peace, only more escalation. You can't both be a "supporter" and be anti-war, unless you can somehow manage to keep your head from exploding due to the cognitive dissonance.
"Stop cramming our wealth into the gullet of the military-industrial complex. No more money for the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds. No more money for the Tajiks, the Hazaras and the Pushtuns. Charity begins at home.",wrote Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.)
And no more money for the Israelis too!
Let's be fair about it Rep. Grayson.
And why can the Democrats continue funding a war that is more than 8 years old with no end in site that most of the public is against?
Because Democrats know most Democratic voters won't abandon them and vote Republican nor independent. Time to vote for independent parties.
Do Afghanis have some mystical human power to bring about the end of empires,
or,
is Afghanistan just where empires go to die, like elephants to the elephant graveyard, when their time is up?