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'Brawler' General to Lead Centcom
A US general once criticised for saying it was "fun to shoot some people" has been picked by the Pentagon to replace General David Petraeus as head of the military command overseeing the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
File picture shows General James Mattis at Kandahar International Airport, Afghanistan, in 2001. US Defense Secretary Robert Gates named Mattis Thursday as the new head of US Central Command or CENTCOM, which has overall control of the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan. (AFP/Pool/File/Dave Martin) General James Mattis, who currently heads the US Joint Forces Command
in the US state of Virginia, and who previously led troops in Iraq and
Afghanistan, was selected to lead US Central Command, or Centcom, which
oversees operations in 20 countries stretching from Egypt across the
Middle East and into South and Central Asia.
Robert Gates, the defence secretary, praised Mattis as "one of the military's most innovative and iconoclastic thinkers" as he announced his recommendation for the post on Thursday.
Barack Obama, the US president, must formalise the nomination before it goes to congress for approval.
Mattis was reprimanded by the Marine Corps for telling a San Diego, California conference in 2005 that "it's fun to shoot some people".
"I'll be right up front with you, I like brawling," he had said during a panel discussion.
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."
On Thursday, Gates dismissed concerns about the comments, saying appropriate action had been taken at the time - Mattis was reprimanded and told to choose his words more carefully - and the four-star general had learnt his lesson.
'Lesson learnt'
"I think that the subsequent five years have demonstrated that the lesson was learnt, Gates said.
Retired Brigadier-General Mark Kimmitt, who has held a number of posts in the US government and military, echoed Gates' remarks.
Pointing out that Mattis' one-off comment was made five years ago, he told Al Jazeera that the general had since proven himself as a statesman, including by working with 27 nations in a Nato command position.
From 2007 to 2009, Mattis served as Nato's supreme allied commander for transformation as he also led the US Joint Forces Command which "focuses on supporting current operations while shaping US forces for the future", according to its website.
Mattis had "the right experience for the job" and was the "right man for the job", Kimmitt said.
Mattis, who had been due to retire, was picked for the Centcom post after a shakeup following inappropriate comments made by General Stanley McChrystal, which led to his June 23 sacking as the US and Nato commander in Afghanistan.
General David Petraeus vacated his post as Centcom chief and agreed to assume command of the Afghan war after McChrystal and his aides were quoted making dismissive remarks about senior Obama administration officials in a Rolling Stone magazine article.
"Obviously in the wake of the Rolling Stone interview, we discussed this kind of thing," Gates said on Thursday. "And I have every confidence that General Mattis will respond to questions and speak publicly about the matters for which he is responsible in an entirely appropriate way."
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Show AllSounds like the perfect killer for the job.
When all is said and done President Obama is responsible for who is in charge of CENTCOM. It is on his desk where the buck stops not on this site of Common Dreams.org.
Therefore I hold Mr. Obama accountable for the consequences of the appointments of Petraeus and the 'Brawler General' if the latter passes muster.
There are renewed signs that the White House is either still out of control of the Pentagon or else is complicit with its weird pronouncements/actions.
It started a few days ago when General Odierno suggested publicly that US soldiers be replaced by a UN peace-keeping force after 31 December 2011. Such a proposal is assuredly dead on arrival at the U.N. Was Obama informed that Odierno would make this policy statement? If Obama was informed ahead of time he did not stop Odierno from making a dumb statement hence is complicit. If he did not know he should recall Odierno for making policy statements without White House approval because he has lost control once again.
And now CENTCOM General "it is fun to shoot people in Afghanistan" (clearly in context of his full statements a war crime)James Mattis. Was Obama informed that the Pentagon would nominate Mattis and did he approve the appointment of a General who suggests the killing of males in Afghanistan just because they slap their women for not wearing veils which the Taliban and Al Qauida will assuredly loudly trumpet to their followers? It is also another slap in the face of NATO allies. If he did he is complicit. If he was not informed he must fire his Secretary of Defense. If he does not he is out of control again.
The war in Afghanistan will last for many years to come because Obama is not going to stop it and his Republican successor will not stop it either.
It is something so typical: Promote a guy like this just to poke Obama in the ribs. Doesn't the Pentagon know that the Pres. has come out as the NecoCon mole.
Just what the world needs - a general so stupid, even the other generals noticed.
As long as we're in this war, we're losing this war. Doesn't matter which asshole runs the show (and they're all assholes).
The following needs to be perfectly clear, becasue being as the media so successfully buried the atrocities of Fallujah it WONT be made clear:
This man-monster presided over the seige and slaughter of likely thousands in Fallujah which included the use of white Phosphorous weapons, and is a war criminal or considerable more vileness than any of the ones in the Balkans. His elevations to this high level of command just shows the complete impunity which the US can treat the rest of the world.
The personal security surrounding this guy, when he is stateside goes home to his posh home in the DC suburbs somewhere, is probably pretty low. Maybe someone will take the initiative and deliver him some justice.
This guy may be a psychopath, but do we want to devolve to acting like the whacko "pro" lifers?
Obviously... Gen. James Mattis is a man that suffers the insecure macho mindset of $ociopathic Pentagon boners doing the bidding of the military industrial complex. This is why Rome is burning. It is why America has devolved into AmeriKa; it's the reason why the nation has become the UNITED $TATES OF PERPETUAL WAR PROFITEERING.
Note: I hope the Common Dreams editorial board will have enough courage to not block my account when they get negative replies on this critical commentary. Censorship on this site has become somewhat prevalent lately. One cannot be a progressive... and then indulge in censorship. You end up like one of the ewe folks @ Fox Newes or the BBC.
The gallant people of Afganistan will give him a warm reception.
"I'll be right up front with you, I like brawling," (Mattis) said during a panel discussion.
He and Obama can go out together and shoot some people in wheelchairs. They'll both have a great time. Where do they dig these fucking psychopaths up from?
It's coming soon: the decimation and slaughter of Kandahar. Petreaus is re-writing the Rules of Engagement to make deliberate and accidental murder easier. Now this "killing people is fun" general is taking over command for the area. As previously noted this general lead the assault on Fallujah. Perhaps someone here could give us some concise information of the atrocities that were perpetrated there. This is the worst possible news ...... for now. So, is Obama totally subservient to other powers (the military, the bankers, the rich, Israel, neo-cons, etc.) or is he part of this horrible disaster? Does Obama approve of this? This is his war of necessity? What do the Obamabots have to say? Petreaus says "we're in it to win it". He also said "we cannot kill our way out of this conflict", "we have to have a political solutions (win the hearts and minds)", etc. It appears that Obama and the military leadership (and Congressional leadership and the American public) are falling back to the traditional plan of military terrorism, death, destruction and misery in an attempt to subdue uncooperative people. Kandahar soon.
Obomber promotes it.
Just because this person was officially "reprimanded and told to choose his words more carefully" does not mean he has changed his way of thinking. Yikes!
Double yikes. Why was this guy reprimanded? What for? Not supposed to say such things in public. I think the military or Blackwater has a job for McChrystal. There is always room for psychopathic, merciless, murderers in the armed forces. Lot of people commenting on story on news.yahoo.com saying "good, this guy will get the job done" or worse. I have heard this line of "fighting with one arm tied behind our back" before. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Yikes. He is also called "Mad Dog" Mattis.
Mr 'Richard-Ralph-Roehl': I think I can assure you that, as negative comments go on Common Dreams, yours is very mild. I don't think you need worry about censorship.
I have a feeling that there are some entirely reasonable people editing this site, cognizant of the true nature and need of free speech, and seemingly tolerant of some pretty 'out-there' comments. I suspect that at least some of the people running Common Dreams recognize that to at least some extent, it needs to be a 'no bullshit zone', since the mainstream media is virtually 100% absolute bullshit.
I myself have written what I certainly hope are some corkers, and not to hear the sound of my own voice, as it were, even in print, visible for the world to see, but because, well, as the bumper sticker says, if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention. I invite you to search out my comments. I think at least a couple of them will give you some idea of how far you can apparently go here and still not be censored. I'm certainly grateful to the editorial staff of CD for indulging me on this, assuming that in fact they are indulging me and are prepared to continue! Evidently a lot of us are outraged, many of us to the point that we have no compunction whatsoever calling some people for what they truly are, even when that entails name-calling. Personally, I try to wrap something resembling intelligent comment, an open mind and a thorough admission that I'm no expert on most of these issues, but rather a very interested observer who spends no small amount of time informing himself of the emergency we are all in. I'm very interested in fiding ways out of it, and in positive re-construction of the planet and the people. Unfortunately, we do have filthy, evil sons-and-daughters-of-bitches such as Bush, Cheney, Rice, et. al. fucking everything up, and a spade must be called a shovel. There's no time left to be nice about it, and I'm with folks like Barbara Ehrenreich who believe that the Cult of the Un-relenting Positive has caused more damage and mind-control, to nasty ends, than can be appreciated.
The whole idea is to provide a dialogue that can't be found in too many other places, and I think that the CD folks get that what discourse is out there in the so-called mainstream is shot through wioth so much ignorance and horseshit and lies that this forum needs to have relatively wider boundaries.
From Wikipedia:
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I don't know Gen. Mattis, nor do I care to have anything to do with him. When are we as a people going to rise up and demand of our national politicians that they pay attention to the people of this nation instead of the plutocracy/oligarchy/ power elite/corporatizers/military industrial complex that have driven us into a war economy that seeks nothing except world domination? It sounds to me like Mattis is their man, but I think it is time for us as a nation to find a better way.
Will we be out of Afghanistan by this time next year? I doubt it.
Will the death toll of our troops (to say nothing ofAfghan civilian deaths) be less in the next twelve months than they have been in the past twelve? I seriously doubt it.
Will our wounded veterans receive any better care by this time next years than they are getting now? I doubt it!
Will our fatering economy be any healthier this time next year? I doubt it!
Will our unemployment figures be significantly better this time next year? I doubt it.
But there is one thing that appears certain, and that is that the power elite will be even richer and the poor will be even poorer.
Merciless.. compassionless.. pitiless.
AUSTRALIA :
"Saturday, July 10, 2010 » 07:42am
"Aust soldiers have reportedly criticised the defence organisation for putting them under extreme stress.
Australian soldiers have reportedly criticised the defence organisation and their allied counterparts of putting them under extreme stress on the frontline in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Weekend Australian reports this morning the troops speak of overworked pilots addicted to Stilnox and other prescription drugs and an underground trade in illicit substances and sex.
The paper reports there have been complaints about a lack of support poor leadership and the constant fear of death."
Imagine a police officer saying, "it's fun to shoot some people" but then the statement is supposedly heavily qualified with the rest of the statement that says the guys he likes to shoot are beaters of women. How far do you think that excuse would go in this country?
Also I'm equally concerned with the use of the word iconoclast by S.o D. Gates. Iconoclast: characterized by attack on established beliefs or institutions.
Just what we need; an iconoclastic brawler. Yeh, that aughta do the trick.
Yes, FastEddie75, you're absolutely right - as long as we're in it we're losing it. But, of course, contrary to the constant stream of lies coming out of Obama, Washington, the MSM, and so on, winning it isn't the point. It's: (a) this fantastical American hubris of needing to prove to the world who's got the biggest cock - what other purpose would a clown like this Mattis serve, especially since he has as good as admitted that it's all about cock size! And (b) the continued profiteering of the elites behind the MIC and the propping up of the American Empire at ANY, ANY, ANY FUCKING COST. Gulf of Mexico disaster? Who the fuck cares? That's clearly the attitude, seeing as how Obama and his jackass Secretary of the Interior just hand BP all authority, rights, ownership, cover stories to block media access and buy themselves time to figure out Job #1: how to rescue their financial and political arses. After all, this goddamned adolescent boys' club known as the military has an insatiable appetite for oil, and BP's still got those contracts to fulfill. After all, we're afraid of loads of shit, starting with terrorism, which just got invented nine years ago on Sept. 11, 2001, and keeping the androcracy as well as the plutocracy on top is the sacred mission. That, and excusing the state of Israel from any and every crime against humanity they care to perpetrate.
In a real world, a reasonable, compassionate, sane world, a decent leader interested in saving what's left of his rapidly disintegrating country would very seriously risk the bullet from the gun that I've absolutely no doubt is quite literally pointed at his head and/or the heads of his wife and children, and scream 'ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT!!', and immediately order the military out of Iraq and Afghanistan, cut the military budget by a very huge percentage, and get the fuck on with fixing everything in America that's broken.
He'd also be jailing Bush and Cheney and Rice and Ashcroft and Rumsfeld and three-quarters of BP and Christ only knows who else; telling these filthy, 'born-again' 'Christians' to keep their heads down and stay the fuck in their dysfunctional homes and out of politics or else risk incarceration; he'd stop the fucking around and bring every single available scrap of scientific prowess in the world to bear on the Gulf disaster and GET IT FIXED, instead of spurning these very concerned scientists, WHO, LIKE THE REST OF US, LIVE HERE TOO, YOU KNOW - THIS GODDAMNED PLANET IS NOT OWNED BY BP AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. Spurning them like the boy-hooker Bush shut the White House door in the faces of Rashid Khalidi from Columbia University along with other concerned Arabists and Middle Eastern experts when they offered help in understanding the shitstorm Bush was galumphing into in Iraq in 2003 with his gang over over-testosteroned thugs, political, military and media.
But you might as well curl up in bed with Plato and the Philosopher King, because Obama ain't yer man, and ain't no philosopher king. Right about now MLK, Jr. is turning in his grave. He's nobody's man, except maybe Michelle's, and I wish them every happiness. But his job, to restrict it to its more recent definition, is to further the agenda begun under Reagan and promoted by everyone since to greater or lesser extents, and jacked into high gear by the brain-dead boy hooker, aided and abetted by that foul pestilence Cheney. What the fuck else can you make of the moves he's made?
No, the goal is to keep on breaking it. Obama is in power to smoke-screen the neo-con agenda with this 'ain't we progressive in getting a black guy into the presidency' horseshit that plays so well with the mouth-breathers in American society. So of course he's going to promote another hyper-masculinized criminal for Centcom.
And remember, at the great big New Feudalism Plutocracy and Security Industries Party just hosted by Toronto, aka the G8/20, Obama also put his 'yeah, sure, you betcha' on this stinking lie of a plan/promise/commitment/agreement to reduce deficits by half in three years. And how do we imagine THAT is going to happen? Not by reducing military spending. It isn't going to happen, of course - it isn't meant to - it's just another of these fairy-tale sound-bites that they toss out for the media to masturbate over while they get on with the real plan.
With everything else going on in the New Feudal Society, who's surprised that an immature, murderous psychopath like this Mattis insect is still allowed to roam around a 'free' man, much less run the Suicide Plan in Afghanistan?
winning it isn't the point. It's: (a) this fantastical American hubris of needing to prove to the world who's got the biggest cock -
I completely agree. While money and anything that makes money is a paramount reason for the USA presence in Af-ganef-stan, The Tough Guy Imperative you mention above is just as important. Obama, in the words of Petraeus, is in it to WIN. He's desperate to find what he considers his version of the WWII Soviet general Zhukov. This homicidal maniac (Mattis) seems to fit the Obama bill. Obama, who will enter the Drug Store Cowboy Hall of Fame after he leaves office, will, instead, richly earn himself the LBJ Vietnam Sweepstakes Booby Prize.
Zhukov was defending the USSR capital,Moscow against the German invaders.The Soviets were fighting a life and death battle on their own soil against a malign enemy.Can the US troops,(I exclude the Brits,Canadians, Germans etc who are largely keeping out of harm's way),claim to be doing the same thing? In fact,the Zhukovs will be on the other side.
Mattis..
"Mattis was reprimanded by the Marine Corps for telling a San Diego, California conference in 2005 that "it's fun to shoot some people".
"I'll be right up front with you, I like brawling," he had said during a panel discussion.
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."
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What a murderous lout. Rabid dog. Look to your OWN first.. stop this beating to pulp - to the death - by your OWN men who 'ain't got no manhood left'....
Let's get one thing straight..
"Domestic Violence Facts29 Dec 2009 ... Secretary Donna E. Shalala, DHHS has called domestic abuse against women
"An unacknowledged epidemic in America". ...
www.athealth.com/Consumer/disorders/DomViolFacts.html - Cached - Similar
Is he the reason Israel's agents had Israel moved from CENTCOM to EUCOM?
The general who five years ago said "It's fun to shoot some people" "had since proven himself as a statesman" - "the four-star general had learnt his lesson".
I.e. he's learned to lie. The sadist has learned to practice his preferences discretely.
Keep in mind that our taxes provide sociopaths like this with a high standard of living and a great retirement package while most Americans are in a financial struggle.
What's that he is toting? A huge bag of wind?
By the way : AUSTRALIA:
'PDF] Violent Crime Reduction Strategy 2008File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
24 Nov 2008 ... tackling the disgusting prevalence of domestic violence. ..."
What the 'generals' and the powers-that-be REALLY think of their troops :
'The Weekend Australian reports this morning the troops speak of overworked pilots addicted to Stilnox and other prescription drugs and an underground trade in illicit substances and sex."
"told to choose his words more carefully"
Please choose words on the billboards carefully too. Please choose words in the school books correctly. And in the entertainment/newz media.
In the "home of the brave", please rely on deception to camouflage your cowardly attitude/agenda/action.
Great.
A Blackwater/George Patton kind of guy.
Just what the world needs.
Start digging the mass graves....
Silly me, I forgot, BP and Unocol already dug the pipeline trenches to India and the India Ocean from the Caspian Sea Oil fields. The big Oil companies can just throw the bodies in there the way "The Big Four" Railroad builders used to bury Chinese coolies.
Funny how KBR (Kellogg Brown and Root) was formed from a merger of Haliburton and what used to be Harriman Brothers Brown, Investment bank, which of course, started as Harriman Brothers with 1800's rail money.
In case you don't know, that's the Bush family bank, where both Prescot and G.H.W. Bush served on the boards of. The funding source of all our wars for the last hundred years. It's shocking when you start digging, how many times they fund BOTH sides of the conflict.
You see, War is the sport of Kings. Despite our best efforts, here in America we are now Lorded over by Wall Street Kings....
The above is all just my opinion only.
TJ
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."
Question is General, are you shooting at every man and boy. Are you God with and executioners gun.
Next time any group of thugs from any country attack us, that the CIA helped liberate from Russian occupation by training people like Osama Bin Laden how to fight a gorilla war with our money and weapons, just quote this General James Mattis.
Next time we ask a country to get rid off terrorists, they will know that America has more militant murdering terrorists than any country in the world, military video games have trained us from youth,and we have the money , the weapons, the will, the attitude, and skills that make us the fastest ,deadliest ,non thinking, non diplomatic gun slinger in the world.
But just like the old westerns, the fastest gun in the west has to look over his shoulder, or guard his back because he creates so many enemies that want to kill him or take his thrown.
Wow, are country has been hijacked by a corporate military industrial complex that are really good at brainwashing American men into thinking like gun slingers.
And the worst part is the oath they take to protect the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic, has been replaced
by a new heroes oath to protect Americans by using force against enemies foreign and domestic .
Who needs a constitution to protect us from a runaway government and military control?
We are now all in harms way from our own law enforcement, judicial system , and military system , that tells us every day, the Constitution dose not protect you, we do.
Whoa!!!!!!!
Welcome to the United Stazi of America, our motto is , if you want to buy trouble come to " Wars R USa.
If only the US were as good at peace as it is at war! What a future...a rubbled empire.
We're not good at war either. Look at the record. World War II and the invention of nuclear weapons ended large scale conflicts in which untold millions die through the use of what's usually termed "conventional weapons". The era when powerful, bullying nations inclined toward mass homicide could push around much smaller and weaker nations and dominate them ended in the 1960's. The asswipes, killers and drooling, incompetent blockheads who have led this nation beginning with the catastrophe of Vietnam have never realized any of this. Obama is the latest in this long line of lugnuts who will never, never wise up. He's the president of the USA. Can you imagine after nearly two years how thoroughly corrupt and bloody-minded he must be by now?
Wow, General ... you were turned once... I CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR YOUR NEXT VERBAL OFFERINGS...
Fiction land of course..." Those guys that slap women around about abortion and give em no health care, or all those PTSD soldiers that can't get jobs, or all those Amerikans that can't find jobs...well, those guys ain't got no manhood, so it's fun to shoot congress.."
Well, you never know.....
AUSTRALIA - Allies : (Just keeping in touch with headlines from here)
".....since joining the army in 2005.
His father Gary mother Kaye and sister Stephanie from Sydney say all Nathan talked about while on leave was getting back to his mates in Afghanistan.
They say he was inspired by his family's history of the military and community service.
Private Bewes body will be returned to Australia in the coming days.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the latest loss increased the determination of the soldiers serving in Afghanistan to get the job done.
'There will be Australians today who are asking themselves in the face of this loss why as a country do we continue to pursue our mission there,' she told reporters in Darwin, ahead of the funeral of one of three Australian soldiers killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan last month.
'We pursue that mission because Afghanistan is a safe haven for terrorists.
'I believe Australia, while mourning these losses, will understand our continuing determination."
Hi raine,
I too find those comments by Julia Gillard to be totally disgusting. It is the usual rhetoric, the usual business as usual without any logic. There is no logic in labeling mostly defenseless people who attempt to defend their country as terrorists, and then claim that that is the reason why we can attack. It is so cowardly, whether it comes from a female prime minister, or a male one.
The label is totally arbitrary. It seems that it is not to be applied to drone bombings or any other terrorist activity of the USA, but is always just applied to anyone not co-operating with US greed for oil.
So Julia can lie, and lie well, in order to serve the powers that be. That would make her a good politician, I suppose. She may be better at the lying game than John Howard - I suppose that it is too early to say.
"BringBackThe60s July 9th, 2010 7:40 pm
This guy may be a psychopath, but do we want to devolve to acting like the whacko "pro" lifers."
Pro-lifers? Not 'pro-life' when it comes to murdering in other lands for the glory of 'God' or 'Country' or 'Party' or 'the flag... not when it comes to the death penalty.
"AUSTRALIA - ally.
"Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the latest loss increased the determination of the soldiers serving in Afghanistan to get the job done.
"There will be Australians today who are asking themselves in the face of this loss why as a country do we continue to pursue our mission there," she told reporters in Darwin, ahead of the funeral of one of three Australian soldiers killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan last month.
"We pursue that mission because Afghanistan is a safe haven for terrorists.
"I believe Australia, while mourning these losses, will understand our continuing determination."
And I believe the last thing the troops in Afganistan are thinking is : The more of us they kill for being in their land, the more determined we are to stay here and 'finish the job'. What job? One word of 'we are withdrawing all our troops from Afghanistan..starting 'immediately' - i.e. they are on their way home. Alive and well... would ensure 'all's well' at home, for her.
Australia's region... Asian Pacific.. which includes 'mighty' China.