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War-Funding Puzzle Stumps Dems
WASHINGTON - House Democratic support for the war in Afghanistan has eroded to a point where President Barack Obama is now so reliant on Republican votes that he’s backtracking from his own party’s efforts to add new education funding to avert teacher layoffs.
The Democrats are trying to figure out how to get some $38 billion in war-related funding through the House and onto the president's desk. (Reuters)
The conflict showed itself Tuesday night as Democrats began spelling
out the details of what domestic funds are proposed to be added to a
Senate-passed version of the same war-funding bill. The 110 page
amendment was posted on the House Rules Committee website even as the
House Democratic whip organization circulated a summary that included
border security and nuclear energy credits along with nearly $15
billion for education.
No indication was given of an administration position pro or con: TBA
was the operative acronym. But unless it steps forward more, the White
House risks further straining relations with Democrats, already
frustrated by the president’s lukewarm support of new jobs and economic
relief legislation going into November’s elections.
The changed war funding dynamic is crucial.
In a similar fight a year ago, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was able
to hold her losses to just 32 Democrats and still prevail with token
support from five Republicans. Nothing like that seems possible now
with Democratic defections pegged at closer to 80 or 90 votes, and the
speaker, perhaps fearful of criticism from the left, refusing to say
how she will vote on the war funds.
The dynamics within the House Appropriations Committee are also
different since the death of Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) last winter and
the pending retirement of Appropriations Chairman Dave Obey (D-Wis.).
Rep. Norm Dicks (D-Wash.), who inherited Murtha’s defense panel and is
slated to move up to Obey’s post next year, has yet to step forward
forcefully, creating a power vacuum that can hurt the administration’s
cause. At the same time, Obey — a critic of the war — has pursued the
teachers pay issue with the passion of a man who knows his time in
office is running out and that he may not have a better shot to boost
education funding this year.
The documents released last night anticipate a $10 billion Education
Jobs Fund intended to help local school boards , hurt by the economic
downturn, to retain an estimated 140,000 employees. Another $4.95
billion is provided to fill a widely acknowledged shortfall in Pell
Grant funding for low-income college students. Border security accounts
are promised $701 million in new spending, and $180 million would serve
to support billions in loan guarantees for the nuclear industry and new
renewable technologies.
To offset the costs, about $12 billion would be rescinded from prior
appropriations including unspent funds from last year’s Recovery Act.
Defense, highway construction, and pandemic flu programs are among
those hit, and new legislation would bar pharmaceutical companies from
paying competitors to delay bringing generic drugs to market.
Democrats are pledging to offset any domestic spending that goes beyond
Obama’s request, but at this stage, Republicans remain adamantly
opposed to much of the domestic add-ons and appear to have a virtual
veto given their hold on the war funds.
The White House has been careful thus far not to press the Democrats to
give in for fear that would provoke a backlash. But with the July 4
recess beginning this weekend, the administration would prefer that the
House take the path of least GOP resistance — namely, accepting a clean
version of the $58.9 billion Senate-passed war-funding bill.
“That’s
a shocker. The White House would want us to take the Senate bill.
That’s their general position,” Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.)
told POLITICO with some sarcasm — and laughter. Salvaging the education
money is still a priority, but Hoyer and Majority Whip James Clyburn
(D-S.C.) each said separately that taking the Senate bill was now a
“possible” outcome.
“It’s one of the options,” Clyburn said.
Since late last week, Democrats have been polling their members to
gauge support for the estimated $37 billion in war-related funding
requested by the president and what’s now a roughly equal package of
spending including disaster aid, Haiti earthquake relief, veterans’
benefits and the teacher assistance.
“We’re trying to put the pieces of a puzzle together that don’t quite
fit together,” Rep. Robert Andrews (D-N.J.) said in an interview. “Our
problem right now is a significant number of moderates don’t want to
vote for the domestic spending and a significant number of progressives
don’t want to vote for the war funding.”
A House Democratic Caucus meeting Tuesday was devoted to the question
of what steps the party should take to stimulate employment. But just
as the war debate has shifted, so has the willingness of many in the
party to embrace any new spending, even if it’s paid for with other
revenues.
“There are a number of moderates who feel that any pay-fors should be
for deficit reduction, not to offset new spending,” Andrews said. “If
you have $10 billion laying around for teachers, reduce the deficit by
$10 billion.”
With its outcome never in doubt, Tuesday’s Senate confirmation hearing
for Gen. David Petraeus, the new U.S. commander for the war, was an
opportunity to try to strengthen its case on the other side of the
Capitol as well.
Under questioning by Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Petraeus said the
stepped-up fighting by the Taliban gives the lie to the notion that the
insurgents believe the U.S. will leave soon and suggests that American
attacks have been more damaging to the Taliban than credited.
“They’re fighting to retain safe havens and sanctuaries that they’ve
been able to establish in recent years,” Petraeus said. “When we take
them away, they must retake them. Marja was — Marja was the nexus of
the Taliban. It had IED-producing factories, if you will, supplies,
headquarters, medical facilities, and the illegal narcotics industry
all tied into one. They lost a great deal when they lost Marja, and
it’s not surprising that they fight back.”
But the general warned of the politics as well.
“They’re also fighting to break our will. This is a contest of wills.
And they can sense concern in various capitals around the world, and of
course, they want to increase that concern.”
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Show AllWar is the problem.
Peace is the answer
Don't expect Rep. Norm Dicks to ever "create a power vacuum that can hurt the administration's cause".
Ever since being elected to Congress in 1976 Dicks has never met a military appropriation he didn't like.
Amen! And it can't come soon enough.
But the general warned of the politics as well.
“They’re also fighting to break our will. This is a contest of wills."
Response: That is a political statement if I've ever heard one. Basically, the general can't win with bombs and bullets so he blames the lack of success on the lack of moral support from the citizens. This general should be fired for such a statement because it shows he has no plan to win other than to try to outlast the Afghan population with invasion forces, and has no timetable for that in which we can measure success or defeat.
I agree 100%, this general is pushing a political line knowing Obama won't sack him. He is saying vote for this war and stick at it no matter what. That is not his decision to make; according to the way it's supposed to work it's the President and Congress that decide on wars and war funding. Generals should give advice privately. However I suppose it's possible Obama is using Petraeus' statements to help win a vote in Congress.
When I read the statement "This is a contest of wills" I immediately remembered the warrior who said the same: Adolf Hitler! In a contest of wills the invader/colonialist always loses.
"House Democratic support for the war in Afghanistan has eroded to a point where President Barack Obama is now so reliant on Republican votes that he’s backtracking from his own party’s efforts to add new education funding to avert teacher layoffs."
That has to be the most succinct example that summarizes Obama's corruption I've heard so far. A Nobel-peace-prize, war-crazed president defying a large part of his "own party" to continue his war - which itself is hardly a force for progress.
However , don't get to comfortable with Capitol Hill,
they are only electioneering for the November elections.
It is Capitol Hill's show for their constituents who
really do want to end the war, if it weren't for the
up coming elections, the supplemental would fly big
time and the Dems wouldn't even have thought about
spending for education...
Just more bullshit...............don't be fooled.
In one way or another many religions teach that. Its not exclusive to Christianity. The militant religions like Islam even hint at it.
Lets just say its a good idea to love your enemies and not commit murder.
"He is the ONLY one who ever taught that."
Not true. Only took one quick search to find this;
http://www.unification.net/ws/theme144.htm
Christ said some great things but Christians can be so full of themselves. Didn't HE also say something about self righteous hypocrites?
STOP the war funding NOW. Put that money to work for the citizens of this country.
Why would POLITICO imagine 0bama in favour of education?
Washington has just backed the G20 in Toronto that has just demanded the kinds of austerity cuts it regularly uses to bankrupt debtor nations.
0bama wants to dump more abroad into war.
Less than 15% of 0bama's constituencies support both these policies, as would far fewer of his supporters, though many do not seem to notice.
It may not be Bethlehem we're lurching towards.
The Obamabots with whom I am acqainted are still blaming Dubya for all of Obama's fascist actions.
Ain't THAT the truth!!
"new legislation would bar pharmaceutical companies to pay competitors to delay bringing generic drugs to the markets." Was the practice of government funding for big pharma to buy off competitors to delay bringing cheaper drugs to the market legal? Am I understanding this right?
"The documents released last night anticipate a $10 billion Education Jobs Fund intended to help local school boards , hurt by the economic downturn, to retain an estimated 140,000 employees."
The estimate of teacher layoffs is 900,000. The dem's plan will only save 140,000 teacher jobs if it is part of the final bill which is unlikely.
Obama believes in privatization. Privatization has failed miserably across the board and required government bailouts. Is it too early to call Obama an idiot?
No, way too late.
Although most Obama voters may be idiots for ignoring the content of his speeches during his 2008 campaign and after being elected, Obama is not an idiot by any metric.
Obama is a devious, calculating politician who knows how to glean unprecedented amounts of corporate money for the Democratic Party.
If you look at the bill, the money was not going to save 140,000 teachers jobs in any case. This was smoke and mirrors again.
"Is it too early to call Obama an idiot?"
Most assuredly not.
Rep Andrews sez: "“There are a number of moderates who feel that any pay-fors should be for deficit reduction, not to offset new spending. If you have $10 billion laying around for teachers, reduce the deficit by $10 billion.”
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Huh.
I must have missed the part about these "moderates™" demanding the same deficit reduction to offset the $34 billion headed for GE, Xe and the warlords.
This is hopeful news.
Apparently the ruling elite have Obama playing the game of perpetual war for perpetual huge profits. The truth will set us free. When most Americans know the dirty truths about the military industrial complex, they won't want to finance it. Instead they'll want to abolish it.
In The Runaway General..., Rolling Stone, Michael Hastings wrote:
"So far, counterinsurgency has succeeded only in creating a never-ending demand for the primary product supplied by the military: perpetual war. There is a reason that President Obama studiously avoids using the word "victory" when he talks about Afghanistan. Winning, it would seem, is not really possible..."
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"The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects the object is not victory... but to keep the very structure of [our deception & greed based, imperialist, oligarchical] society intact."
George Orwell
Petraeus has a false reputation from the socalled success of the surge in Iraq. Well it wasn't the "surge" there that did it; it was the combination of buying off the Sunni insurgency with money and the decision of Al Sadr to not fight back against the Iraqi government forces that went after his forces many of whom were picked up. Al Sadr lost those men but won the propaganda war in the long run as we saw in his good polling in the recent elections.
If as I said Petraeus has a false reputation, his appointment is largely about appearences for domestic consumption. To not disillusion people when things get tough, he is announcing beforehand to expect increased fighting ie increased losses.
Petraeus's claims about Taliban losses in Marja have been to contradict other military people's claims about the useless US effort in Marja. All he is saying is propaganda to get the US to "stay the course". But the US people are already fed up, so he hasn't got much room to move.
Just say no.
"And they can sense concern in various capitals around the world, and of course, they want to increase that concern.”
Yes, I can envision the Taliban leaders sitting in the rubble of their third world "cities," discussing this very topic.
"Ah, the Guardian reports a 5,000 person protest in London, and did you see the reports from the big demonstration in D.C.? The Democrats may not even pass the war funding bill!" (OK - maybe they won't discuss that last point)
Because that makes a lot more sense than the other reason they are fighting - to run yet another occupying army out of their country.
I don't believe for a minute that the Dems won't keep the funding coming.
What's wrong with this country is mainly that, we need to limit how big the political campaigns get, by limiting how much the political campaigns spend, so the voices of the good candidates stop getting drown out. No excuses.
“Our problem right now is a significant number of moderates don’t want to vote for the domestic spending and a significant number of progressives don’t want to vote for the war funding.”
No...Robert Andrews (D-N.J.). The problem here is your labeling of these war mongering as*holes MODERATES. Call a spade a spade why don't ya. These MODERATES are NEO-CONS pinning a feel-good label on themselves.
If they want war...send them to the front lines. We'll see how long the war lasts then.
War is obscene. Only greedy evil people want war. Please stop funding warfare. Please.
Sorry to be crude but at this point I don't give a toss about the vicissitudes of corrupt politicians. I don't give a toss about this article and its descriptions of so-called moderates. Another superficial article that I did not find helpful.
As mcoyote and others have commented: the only way to stop the slow but steady destruction of our country and world is for action not empty rheotric or recounting meaningless details of a failed and corrupt political and economic system.
We have solutions to the problems we face and they have been detailed by many. These solutions cannot be implemented given the status quo.
We are faced with a difficult dilemma: collectively act or be destroyed one by one.
Although difficult, the consequences of inaction will be even more difficult, to put it mildly.
The national Democratic Party leadership is under the control of Hubert Humphrey liberals. If the Republicans threatened to cut off the arms and legs of Democrats, Humphrey was the kind of Democrat who could negotiate with such Republicans and then announce the great compromise he had made, a compromise that committed the Democrats to have a leg cut off at their own expense. Today's Democrats remain as committed to weakness as they are to losing.
Education, UI, Healthcare, YES
War NO NO NO
There's a puzzle? I love puzzles!
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WAR in all its manifestations is most definitely the most apparent PROBLEM, but the REAL problem is that all of the Dems and Repubs are still clinging to the WAR as the manifestation of AMERICAN MIGHT and THEIR power! Without war THEY are NOTHING!!!
First of all, what's the context for all of this intricate wrangling being depicted by this Politico article? The context is TOTAL Democratic Party representative SUPPORT for the wars over many years.
Elected Dem Congressional representatives supported the wars even after some of the largest antiwar protests occurred in the country since the Vietnam War days. The protests happened across the streets of all major cities over many years. They were completely ignored by Washington.
Now, we're being told that Dem Congressmen are polling their constituencies and supposedly curtailing war spending - after 10 years of supporting the wars.
Please, the only thing that is happening here is that midterm elections are coming up. Propaganda pieces from outlets like Politico spin vague tales of complexity suggesting that the Dem-controlled Congress actually is responding to war opponents, when the truth is that Congressional Dems couldn't give a rat's ass about progressive or antiwar views.
These articles just serve to confuse reflexive Dem voters. Confused Dem voters will pull the handle for Dems, ensuring that perpetual senseless wars continue. It's the same result as if they had voted for Repugs, because the two parties are one on this issue and so many other issues that are assaults on the people, both foreign and domestic.
So, please don't think this Politico article is profound and meaningful. It offers no explanation for Dem behavior and it misconstrues the pro-war positions of the Dem Party.
-TIA
Why spend money on education? If we keep our citizens stupid we'll have that much more cannon fodder to fight the stupid "wars" on which we've been wasting the money we don't have. I understand there's been a lyrics change to that golden oldie patriotic song. It's new title is, "Columbia the phlegm of the ocean".