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Nuclear Does Not Make Economic Sense Say Studies
BERLIN - The enormous technical and financial risks involved in the construction and operation of new nuclear power plants make them prohibitive for private investors, rebutting the thesis of a renaissance in nuclear energy, say several independent European studies.
Nuclear power plant Dukovany, Czech Republic. The enormous technical and financial risks involved in the construction and operation of new nuclear power plants make them prohibitive for private investors, rebutting the thesis of a renaissance in nuclear energy, say several independent European studies. (Photo taken by Petr Adamek - Wikimedia Creative Commons License) The risks include high construction costs, likely long
delays in building, extended periods of depreciation of equipment
inherent to the construction and operation of new power plants and the
lack of guarantees for prices of electricity.
Adding to these is the global meltdown and the consequent cautious behavior of investors as also fiscal and revenue difficulties of governments in the industrialized countries, say the studies.
In the most recent analysis on the feasibility of new nuclear power plants, the Citibank group concludes that some of "the risks faced by developers ... are so large and variable that individually they could each bring even the largest utility company to its knees financially."
The Citibank paper, titled ‘New Nuclear - The Economics Say No', lists five major risks developers and operators of new nuclear power plants must confront. These risks are planning, construction, power price, operational, and decommissioning. According to the study, most governments in industrialized countries today have only "sought to limit the planning risk" for investors.
But, while it is "important for encouraging developers to bring forward projects, [planning] is the least important risk financially," the survey goes on. According to the Citibank group, the most important risks are construction, power price, and operational. The paper dubs these risks "the corporate killers."
Environmental activists would add safety issues as another major risk - both the handling of highly radioactive nuclear waste and the likelihood of accidents at nuclear power stations.
The Citibank bases its conclusions on estimated costs of construction and operation and in the necessity of setting too high electricity prices for consumers, and which have seldom been reached in the past.
According to the paper, the costs of constructing a new nuclear power plant range between 2,500 to 3,500 euros (3,420 US dollars) per kilowatt hour.
For an average 1,600 megawatt (Mw) unit, such a range leads to construction costs of up to 5.6 billion euros (7.6 billion dollars). "We see very little prospect of these costs falling and every likelihood of them rising further," the study says.
To meet such costs, the operator would need a guarantee of constant electricity prices around 65 euros (88.9 dollars) per Mw/hour for a long period of time.
The Citibank paper cites the British case where prices at that level on a sustained basis have occurred only 20 months during the last 115 months. "It was a sudden drop in power prices that drove British Energy to the brink of bankruptcy in 2003," the survey recalls.
Another survey of the so-called renaissance of nuclear power, carried out by physicist Christoph Pistner for the German Institute for applied ecology, comes to similar conclusions.
In the paper ‘Renaissance of nuclear energy', Pistner argues that developers "must finance in advance and for an unusual long period of time the huge construction costs of a new nuclear power plant."
In an interview with IPS, Pistner said that most power plants have to be running for at least 20 years to reach the operation period free of depreciation and impairments costs. Only after this period, a nuclear power plant starts yielding returns.
In addition, Pistner said, developers of nuclear power plants are confronted with yet another risk: "The industry disposes of little references on the buildings costs of new nuclear power plants because there are very few units in construction."
Actually, there is a new nuclear power plant that serves as a warning example of the risks involved in such a project: the nuclear power plant of Olkiluoto 3 in Finland, under construction since 2004.
Although the plant was supposed to have started delivering electricity in May 2009, its completion was postponed several times in the past two years. On Feb. 11, the Olkiluoto 3 project manager Jouni Silvennoinen announced in Helsinki that the plant's start "may be pushed back further than June 2012, which is the current deadline confirmed by the equipment manufacturer."
The manufacturer is the French state-owned company AREVA. The plant was ordered by the Finnish company TVO.
Olkiluoto 3 is also facing an explosion of construction costs. Initially, it was estimated that the plant's construction would cost three billion euros (4.1) - but now the bills amount to well over 5.3 billion euros (7.2 billion dollars). How much the plant is actually going to cost remains unclear.
These costs must be added to the revenues losses TVO had budgeted as electricity sales, but which were never realized due to the non operation of the plant.
The delays in completion and the explosion of costs have led to litigation between the Finnish operator TVO and the manufacturer AREVA.
In yet another critical appraisal of the feasibility of new nuclear power plants, French energy expert Thibaut Madelin says that the uncertainties linked to the construction costs of such plants have been magnified by the global financial crisis, which makes such huge investments unlikely.
Madelin said that construction delays of nuclear power plants constitute the central argument against them. "You can build a combined cycle gas turbine with a capacity of 800 Mw in four years, for a construction cost of some 550 million euros (752.4 million dollars)," Madelin told IPS.
"But for a nuclear power plant of 1,600 Mw, you need at least eight years, and a construction budget of up to six billion euros (8.2 billion dollars)," Madelin added. "That means that the investor of a new nuclear power plant would start seeing some money only eight years after she invested a huge amount of money."
According to Madelin, "if the construction of a nuclear power plant lasts more than 10 years, the project becomes a financial catastrophe." Figures by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) say that construction delays jumped from 64 months (more than five years) to 146 months (more than 12 years) between 1976 and 2008.
In a recent commentary published by the IAEA, Sharon Squassoni, researcher at the U.S. Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, also concluded that the financial crisis and the construction costs constitute almost insurmountable obstacles to the renaissance of nuclear power.
"The current economic crisis could make financing nuclear power plants particularly difficult," Squassoni wrote. "Financing costs account for between 25 and 80 percent of the total cost of construction because nuclear power plants take much longer to build than alternatives."
For example, wind plants require 18 months to build, combined cycle gas turbines need 36 months, but nuclear power plants take at least 60 months, Squassoni noted.
Squassoni warned that the global tightening of risk management standards in the wake of the current economic crisis could imperil the nuclear industry, "in particular, because a reactor entails such a large investment (between five billion and 10 billion dollars per plant) relative to the typical financial resources of electric utilities."
The Citibank paper, referring to the Olkiluoto 3 plant, points out that cost overruns and time slippages of even a fraction seen by TVO and AREVA would be more than enough to destroy the equity value of a developer's investment "unless these costs can be passed through somehow", an euphemism for state subsidies.
"Given the scale of these costs, a construction program that goes badly wrong could seriously damage the finances of even the largest utility companies," the Citibank survey says.
The Citibank survey concludes that without taxpayers money there is "little if any prospect that new nuclear stations will be built ... by the private sector unless developers can lay off substantial elements of the three major risks. Financing guarantees, minimum power prices, and/or government-backed power off-take agreements may all be needed if stations are to be built."
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Show Allit should be noted that this report was prepared by Citibank from a strictly private capitalist perspective.
If they had investigated renewable energy development they would also have concluded that it too is too risky for private finance, and should not be pursued, for exactly the same reasons.
Lots of things are socially worthwhile which don't turn a profit. I have no trouble with public subsidies, or even full public ownership, for technologies needed to address AGW.
Brings to mind the saying, "There are none so blind as those whose paycheck depends on not seeing."
From the article appropriately titled NUCLEAR DOES NOT MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE SAY STUDIES:
"Financing costs account for between 25 and 80 percent of the total cost of construction because nuclear power plants take much longer to build than alternatives."
and
"cost overruns... would be more than enough to destroy the equity value of a developer's investment 'unless these costs can be passed through somehow', an euphemism for state subsidies.
To which pjd412 says, it would be a great investment for the public. WHY? The same amount of money could be spent for much greater benefit with much less risk to the pubic. Or, you could not spend the public's money, since the public doesn't even want to spend money on healthcare, which would provide obvious benefits to the public, but you think it would be great to spend it on a project that might not even yield ANY benefit to the public, if it has an accident. What benefit to the people in Vernon if they've been giving their children radioactive water to drink or have to abandon their town while the nuclear engineering companies spend the next few decades "cleaning up" the ground water? Does anyone know how to clean up radioactive groundwater? Hanford?
Neither pjd412 nor the author mentions the moral hazard that multibillion dollar , decades long construction projects beget. Just as the financial industry and other industries are finding that becoming too big to fail is very porfitable, the nuclear industry is posturing to do the same thing, thereby assuring permanent serial corporate welfare for the nuclear plants. Jumbo centralized generation plants are so 20th century. Scalable, decentralized renewable generation plants are the 21st century.
pjd412's comparison between renewables and nuclear are invalid. While a 20 year "payback" period may be common to nuclear and renewables, renewables such as wind and solar can start generating power in 1/10th the time it takes nuclear. It takes fewer people to operate renewable generation equipment compared to nuclear plants. When renewable equipment wears out you have recyclable scrap metal. When a nuclear plant wears out you have deadly waste that lasts for centuries. The engineering firm I worked for 10 years ago guaranteed me lifetime job security if I worked on their project at Hanford.
And so far, over the decades, no non-parabola photovoltaic cells have worn out
Another thing that pdj... does not take into account is that while incetivization of solar may be required to jumpstart that industry in the US, we get a much more assured outcome and with no radioaction concerns. More importantly, it has been shown, vis a vis Germany, that investment in solar brings signifigant economies of scale to bear not only on the price of solar, but also on the improvement of technological and installation efficiency. Meanwhile, you have Citibank saying that costs can only be expected to rise for nuclear tech and construction. Personally, I think this is because solar is a much more local, small business oriented technology while nuclear is strictly the realm of large corporations which upoerate primarily under cost plus constracts. Pdj.. is an utter idiot and so are all the nuclear advocates like him. Either that or he (and they) has (have) some financial stake in going nuclear, making him a self-interested asshole instead.
And when I say solar, I mean also proven and well developed technologies like concentrated solar power, which operate through the night. So don't gimme that BS about "what about when the sun doesn't shine". Not to mention advanced (and well devloped) storage technologies like frictionless magnetic vaccuum fly-wheels; new lithium ion batteries; new solar-hydrogen solar cells that produce hydrogen at the solar cell and present huge gains in efficiency from converting solar to electricity to power electrolosis to produce hydrogen. These people always talk about the possibilities of technological advancement in nuclear, when the possibilities are so much more assured, greater, and safer when you look at the tech advances possible with solar and hydrogen.
Eric 1:42 -------Solar hydrogen cells, I could use them here and now, where are they availabe?
Are you familiar with storing thermal solar in caverns ( possibly in salts) and retrieving the heat to run turbines at night, we have a pilot project nearby.
I know that there was some work done in 2008 for the hydrogen generating solar cells and that is not the most advanced work being done. There was recently (2008) some work done at MIT for the same purpose which is based largely on the way that plants harvest sunlight to produce hydrogen. Here is an article on the subject:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/oxygen-0731.html
Energy storage with phase change salts is another viable and immediately available method to deal with "the sun doesn't shine at night" prosletyzers. I am glad to see a pilot project is going in your area. Its projects like that which will truly help local communities weather any storms of chaos casued by our out of control financial, military, and free market elites.
Great posts EricGregory,
Solar is the only way to go.
What nobody ever admitted was that Three Mile Island nuked two million people, and that the curries of radiation were over 100 times what was admitted by the government, just doing basic math on DOE statements of release. "Hot Rain" melted people's skin off their faces and the milk cattle at the Hershey's plant all had to be destroyed because Iodine-131 showed up in their "Hot" chocolate bars reportedly shown by a leaked internal company memo.
All sensors were off the scale inside and outside the TMI nuke plant after the hydrogen explostion, and the bio-med staff fled. A secondary Bio-med contractor had to be hired and their careers were ruined because they talked about their experiences to the public.
Watch these videos by nuclear industry whistle blowers before you listen to the Nuclear Lobby who likes to hang out here at CD, and before you decide to support nuclear power.
http://www.tmia.com/march26
Nuclear power is unsafe under any conditions because the system requires 100 percent perfect safety all the time. For twenty years as an airline pilot, we rarely admitted FUBARs as long as we made it back to the bar alive. No harm, no foul. We told our buddies about the danger, and then resolved to never do that again. This was just human nature. It is clear reading the Commission report on TMI (Three Mile Island) that this nuke plant operated the same way. It's sister plant at Rancho Seco almost melted down also prior to TMI for similar reasons; but was not reported in the national media.
Steam generator dry-out
On 20 March 1978 a failure of power supply for the [Rancho Seco Nuclear power] plant's non-nuclear instrumentation system led to steam generator dryout. (ref NRC LER 312/78-001). In an on-going study (ref NRC Commission Document SECY-05-0192 Attachment 2 [1]) of "precursors" that could lead to a nuclear disaster if additional failures were to have occurred, the NRC concluded (as of 24-Oct-2005) that this event at Rancho Seco was the third highest ranked occurrence (second highest if one omits the event at the Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station).
When the reactor was at power, a failure of the NNI power supply resulted in a loss of main feedwater, which caused a reactor trip. Because instrumentation drift falsely indicated that the steam generator contained enough water, control room operators did not take prompt action to open the EFW flow control valves to establish secondary heat removal. This resulted in steam generator dryout. UNQUOTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Rancho_Seco_Nuclear_Generating_Station
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Later, streams in the area were found to be radioactive and the plant was permanently closed. But the corporate media did not report this nationally, so although I was living downwind of the damned thing, we never were told how close we came to buying the farm.
Here's a partial list of some the close calls in the public domain we've had that you may not know about:
http://planetliberty.wikidot.com/nuclear-power-incidents
In Aviation, a high-tech, safety intensive business, there are usually dozens of unreported close calls before a fatal accident occurs. FAA regulations were largely borne out of the blood of accident victims. I submit that complex nuclear power is no different: except the dangers are millions of victims as opposed to hundreds. If we go to 200 nuke plants from our present 104, our risk doubles. This entire post is just my opinion only.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
>>>EricGregory wrote: new solar-hydrogen solar cells that produce hydrogen at the solar cell and present huge gains in efficiency from converting solar to electricity to power electrolosis to produce hydrogen.
I suppose the hydrogen would then be used in fuel cells to generate electricity? While it's technically feasible and has been demonstrated on several pilot projects - that is, solar PV --> electrolysis --> hydrogen --> fuel cell, the economics of this particular route is not at all atractive - because we are talking of a few systems: solar PV, electrolysis and fuel cells. In-between electrolysis and fuel cells, the hydrogen would have to be compressed quite a bit - using some of the power generated by the solar PV system (and this is called "parasitic" power consumption), so the final cost of electricity (COE) is not at all attractive.
There has been lots of excitement (and some hype) over fuel cells over the last two decades, but the reality is that fuel cells would make sense when there is cheap hydrogen - either from natural gas, or from surplus hydro electricity. I'm referring to "fuel cells" as a generic technology here. There are actually low-temperature fuel cells (as used in automobiles - again, at the demo stage), and high temperature fuel cells. Low temperature fuel cells use platinum, rhodium, etc. - expensive materials, although several teams are trying to find other electrocatalysts that are cheaper. High temperature fuel cells - even when using natural gas - may actually be more efficient and even make economic sense - eventually - when the plant size is above a certain capacity - of several megawatts, and when used in a cogeneration mode (that is, electricity + heat, where the waste heat is also used). They can actually compete very well with modern gas turbines - except in the upfront capital cost.
As I said, I'm posting this assuming that you had fuel cells in mind - when you mentioned hydrogen from electrolysis. Ask anyone working on fuel cell development privately - the time horizon is always about 5-10 years out in the future when the fuel cell systems are expected to be commercialized. That hasn't stopped active technology development though - actually all over the world. It's the overall cost of electricity that's proving to be a deterrent.
When battery technology advances sufficiently - that is, costs to come down, energy density to increase, as well as reliability, it may turn out that solar PV + batteries may be cheaper and easier to operate than solar PV + electrolysis + fuel cells. And someone pointed out to me on another thread that batteries are not required when tie-ins are used to connect to the grid.
My point in all this is that technical feasibility alone is never the deciding factor - it's the overall cost plus reliability that often clinch the issue. If lack of mass production can be clearly shown to be a factor affecting the cost, then carefully planned subsidies can work to bring down the cost of cleaner technologies.
actually the technologies I am speaking of produce hydrogen directly at the fuel cell, greatly reducing the inefficiencies in the production of hydrogen with solar. The inefficiencies present at the fuel cell end are another matter. My point is that the cost of producing hydrogen are greatly reduced and allow us to get beyond the "when the sun doesn't shine" problem. Additionally hydrogen is a fuel which can be used directly in cars. My main point: if our aim is to use the cleanest technology, these are the way to go, even wind is not as good because of wild life and noise concerns.
Nuclear has NEVER made sense financially, especially if you consider that the federal government exempted the plants from liability via the Price-Anderson Act. If the plants had had to pay their insurance and did not have heavily subsidized research, they never would have been built in the first place.
Nuclear plants are simply welfare for corporations and a source for dirty DU munitions for our military.
Nuclear energy is basically about boiling water in the most expensive and dangerous way a person could possibly dream up. It is a scientific folly.
This Citibank report is about laying the groundwork for a massive, permanent subsidy of the nuclear industry, much like what the military-industrial complex has now. There is no accounting for nuclear waste material, its effects on the environment, or on us. The nuclear industry will take all the profits and dump all the costs on the taxpayers.
Eight billion dollars (a minimum price for a new nuke plant) would buy a lot of solar panels. More than enough to build a solar farm to supply exactly as much electricity, with money left over to upgrade the power grid (another left-out cost in the promotion of new power-plants) and have a few billion left over for ANOTHER solar farm. (And each would depreciate in the matter of five years instead of twenty as a minimum.)
Now tell us again, how nuclear power makes economic or environmental sense so we don't roll over laughing.
Gary
“The U.S. is woefully behind when it comes to competing in alternative energy.”
-- Michael Eckhart
exactly right. and you do not even mention the other benefits, such as no waste, assured completion, economies of scale, etc. It is ridiculous to think that nuclear is better than even solar as the prices and technology stand right now. The President does (or should) have the best information at hand. His decision to go with coal and nuclear just verifies that he is only going for big dollar contributions and not the good of the country. Sounds a little like treason to me.
gdgoodman, perhaps in a perfect world your nuclear dream might work. Fermi II in Monroe, Michigan came on line in 1988, in the 22 years that it has been on line it has been down for almost half of that time for scheduled and unscheduled maintenance. Mostly unscheduled! Of course that is a better record than it's predecessor, Fermi I, a breeder reactor that came very, very close to melt down in 1966. To this day the site is still not completely decontaminated!
Coal and nuclear have had their day. They are two of the most expensive and dangerous forms of power generation known to man. It is time to try (and adapt to) something new.
Cancer forever increasing at taxpayer's expense.
I'm sure the folks living near the Tritium Hot Zone expanding around Vermont Nuclear Plant will be glad to hear that:
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/02/09-7#comment-1419595
Nuclear energy REALLY doesn't make economic sense if you include the costs of keeping the waste isolated from the environment for the rest of Human history. For the mere benefit of, say, 30 years of providing us with 20% of our electricity, we have created a hideous burden for all future generations.
We could conserve all of the power that all US nuke plants generate by switching to compact fluorescent lights.
so what's the moon was created for ? amusement?
edweg
english please
poverty makes a better scene
edweg
Nuclear Plants...
Every component from engineering, finance, construction, machines, wages, to cement is derived from the "Oil Platform".
Same for "Alt Energy"
When "oil" was $12.00 bbl, anyone could build whatever.
And they did.
That's over.
Look on the bright side:
Even though the next 10-20 years will be a period of contraction, personal suffering,and worse, it's long over due.
It'll be good for the planet.
Burning 6.5 million tons of coal in just one coal burner in a year is much better then the 25 ton of fuel it would in a nuclear plant? Heavy industry can not be supported by wind and solar power. Just the fact that anyone posting their comments here show how depended you are on electricity. Google bought and old Aluminum smelter in Oregon because that what kind of power supply that is need for them to operate. Your wishes will not change this fact.Keep digging coal and the whole U.S. will be one big hole.
I agree with you Mr/Mrs Baldwin,
However why do we have to frame our decision between death and death? Neither is smart. See my earlier post to Billy regarding how a network of rooftop residential solar could shut down most of the coal plants in the sunbelt right now.
Boiling water with the atom is like killing a fly with a cannon. It is inefficient, dangerous, and complicated. It is a terrorism and leakage hazard. All Nuclear plants leak sooner or later because their containment buildings must vent to the outside atmosphere when low pressure systems come into the area. Earthquakes, Tsunamis and tornados, and Hurricanes are russian roulette if they come in contact with a reactor.
Sooner or later, the world's going to have another bad nuke day. Let's go solar and put the population in check while we still have time to save our posterity.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
baldwin, let heavy industry bare the cost of coal and nuclear then. Remember under the current business scheme, they collect the profits and we pick up on all of their liability, i.e cost over runs, nuclear storage, and nuclear accidents or pollution due to mountain top removel. (Polluted water, soil and air clean up) Let the bastards build their own exclusive power plants, just keep them seperate from public utilities!
If Obama and the corporatists in the republican and democratic parties and their coprporate masters want new nuclear plants, let them dig into their savings accounts, at Citigrope, Skank of America, or Golden Sachs.
We have men and women returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan who are going to need our help to battle the nightmares they acquired while serving for us. We have millions of Americans who are out of jobs, homeless and hungry! It is time for these multinational corporations to pull themselves up by their boot straps and learn to stand on their own. Sorry guys but we the American taxpayers are cutting off your allowances. It is time for you and your freinds to go out and get a real job!
Heavy industry has responded by moving a lot industry overseas and then shipping the finished materials back to us. I would like the power plants to be P.U.D. operators of these power plant with heavy government subsidies to build and operate and provide low cost electric to citizens and industry that produce goods for the U.S. consumption. Billions of dollars should be stripped from the Pentagon budget and redirected to help support this effort, at lest we would have something that the citizens could use from their taxes, and provide jobs at the same time.
The word 'nuclear' creates fear in most people.
all those mushroom clouds and gaunt skeletons bearing charred, papery flesh...the sinister concrete towers standing tall, overseeing daily life...the badges that tell you when you're reaching overexposure (hi, cancer!), the clicking of the Geiger counter...the cold, soulless and ceaseless radioactivity...for hundreds of thousands of years...with profit-minded humans keeping an eye on things...
what's not to love?
Maybe the next TMI will happen a bit closer to a population center such as the near miss that happened near Toledo in the late 90's when a Stainless steel reactor core lid almost corroded through and would have caused a Chernobyl style meltdown if it went much longer undetected. We have one of these big events every twenty years or so and are due for another one soon. How many will have to die or suffer or have their lives upended before we learn our lesson? Apparently the answer is many, many-- perhaps in the millions.
Meanwhile back in the labs they are planning TRWs (Traveling Wave Reactors} that are a type of breeder which would use liquid Sodium as a coolant at high pressure and temp and need to run 100 years to burn out its fuel load. When I made my concerns known about whether we could do this for a hundred years safely on an MIT Technology Review blog about TRWs it was soundly rebuked-- got a 1 star rating. Obviously these MIT nuclear engineers are not too concerned about their ability to run these and other reactors safely--- they think its an old issue, that they have all that in hand-- afterall they've got the degrees and they've done the simulations.