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Geithner Testifies: What Did He Decide About AIG Payouts?
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was summoned to testify before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform yesterday in order to answer two questions: why did he sign off on AIG paying the Big Banks full value on insurance for bad assets like mortgage-backed securities--using $62 billion in taxpayer money--at a moment when everyone else was taking losses? And what was his role in the decision not to disclose to the public--which owned 80 percent of AIG at the time--the names of the banks and the payments they received, as AIG was prepared to do before the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (FRBNY) run by Geithner advised them not to?
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2010, before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on AIG. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais) Geithner's answer boiled down to this: the decision in early November
2008 to pay the Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Merril Lynch, Citigroup,
Societe Generale, Deutsche Bank and others 100 cents on the dollar was
part of a broader effort to save AIG and it prevented an economic
catastrophe; and on November 24, 2008, when he was nominated to serve as
Treasury Secretary, he recused himself "from involvement in monetary
policy decision, policies involving individual institutions, and
day-to-day management of FRBNY." (Was there anything left for him to do
around the joint? And why was he still getting a paycheck?) Geithner
said he therefore had nothing to do with the non-disclosure decision in
December 2008.
But Geithner didn't recuse these AIG matters up from his office, he recused them down to the vice president of the NY Fed. Apparently, decision-making over tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money wasn't deemed a top-level priority by him or his predecessor, former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who also testified. In fact, Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur discovered through her questions that no formal recusal agreement outlining Geithner's new responsibilities (or lack thereof) was ever executed.
Geithner argued that the New York Fed was operating under a gun. In November 2008, credit rating agencies--the same ones that gave mortgage-backed securities their highest AAA rating--were about to screw us again by downgrading AIG's credit rating when taxpayers had already handed the company an $85 billion bailout in September. A downgrade would require AIG to pay out tens of billions of dollars more in collateral payments to the banks on the credit default swaps (insurance on the bad assets)--money that it didn't have and that Geithner maintained would force the company to collapse. Geithner said AIG's failure would cause an "utter collapse"--a run on banks, thousands of factories closed, millions of more Americans losing jobs, savings and home values even more devastated. Paulson said unemployment would have been upwards of 25 percent.
AIG had already begun asking the banks for concessions, or "haircuts," on these contracts. Only USB agreed to consider a 2 percent reduction in payments--and only under the condition that the other financial firms agreed to it as well. According to Geithner, the New York Fed decided there wasn't sufficient time to negotiate. AIG was about to report an earnings loss of $25 billion on November 10 which would have resulted in a credit downgrade. Geithner argued that even the haircuts themselves could have led to a downgrade and consequent collapse.
But Democratic Congressman Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts wasn't buying it. He pointed to Bear Stearns, and the fact that then-Secretary Paulson, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, and Geithner forced the firm to accept 2 cents on the dollar for their shares in order to receive bailout money. How was it Goldman and the other firms got such a sweet deal on this backdoor bailout via AIG?
"The money going into AIG is going right out to the counterparties," said Lynch. "This is a pass-through. And the folks on the other side are Goldman Sachs--that's a principal beneficiary. And we don't negotiate a nickel--not a nickel, not a cent--off of what they're getting. You're saying, 'Oh, the regulations were different.' Let me tell you something, you were changing the rules and regulations every single day. You had every opportunity--every opportunity to weigh in on behalf of the American people and make these people take a new deal, make them take a haircut. You scalped the folks at Bear Stearns--2 cents on a dollar, they got. The folks at Goldman Sachs got a hundred cents on a dollar. That is just unacceptable. Totally unacceptable."
Lynch was fuming and went on to address the recusal issue. "Changing over to the Obama Administration--you get the same people who are relying on you. The American taxpayer when you're in one job, and the American taxpayer when you're in the other job," he said. "I don't see a conflict. You could have done the right thing by those people, and it just stinks to high heaven, what happened here. And to top it all off--the disclosure was not there. The disclosure was not there at the proper time to tell the American people, to tell this Congress, what was going on. And that is just inexcusable. And it makes me doubt your commitment to the American people. And I think the commitment to Goldman Sachs trumped the responsibility that our officials had to the American people."
(So where exactly was Lynch when the Democratic primary for the Massachusetts Senate seat rolled around?)
"If it would have been possible, we would have done it," Geithner replied. "Why would I have wanted to be sitting before you today having to defend actions that look like they could have been avoided? It comes down to this basic tragic choice: if you are prepared to default, you can impose haircuts. If you can't accept the consequences of default, you do not have any leverage. It would have been vastly more expensive to the American taxpayer...if we had let that firm fail."
"There was no shared sacrifice for Goldman Sachs and the American people," Lynch shot back.
One witness on the third panel also questioned Geithner's version of things--Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for TARP (SIGTARP).
Barofsky took on the "tone and amount of effort" in the negotiations for concessions from the Wall Street and foreign banks. He said they were handled over the telephone by mid- and senior-level executives. These Fed officials informed their counterparts at the financial firms that negotiations were voluntary, and then asked would they be willing to take a haircut? Seven of the eight said no, and Secretary Geithner then made the decision to pay full value on the contracts.
Barofsky said this "stands in stark contrast" to negotiations just a few weeks earlier when the US purchased $125 billion in preferred securities from nine banks--some of the same ones involved in the AIG negotiations--through TARP. The bank CEOs were summoned to a Treasury conference room in Washington, DC. NY Fed President Geithner, Secretary Paulson, and Fed Chairman Bernanke were all present and insisted the banks take the money.
"Unlike with AIG, the message was forceful," said Barofsky. "[They] made it very clear how important it was for the banks to agree. They used terms like 'it would be good for the country' for them to do so. No such similar effort was taken with respect to the AIG negotiations. Would it have made a difference? If President Geithner or Secretary Paulson got on the phone and talked with those chief executive officers, would it have resulted in the savings of billions or tens of billions of dollars for the US taxpayer? We don't know. We can't know. We'll never know, because that effort was simply not taken."
Barofsky also expressed concerns about a continuing lack of transparency around these matters. Documents regarding the AIG payments to the banks that were obtained by the Oversight Committee should have been turned over previously to SIGTARP for its investigation into these matters last year. Barofsky said that he will investigate "whether there was any misconduct relating to disclosure or lack thereof."
Florida Republican John Mica asked for Geithner's resignation--but mostly the Republican members wore their newfound populism like a kid forced to don a tie at church. Congressman Lynch gave Geithner that one serious dressing down. And Representatives Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich pressed the Secretary hard on how and why he made the decisions he made.
But in the end, there was no smoking gun in the 250,000 documents examined by the Committee. Nothing to prove what Geithner knew about the non-disclosure, and when he knew it. No damning e-mail from him reassuring friends on Wall Street that this was all going to be taken care of.
Just the same question that has loomed over Geithner since his nomination: is this really the man the President wants presiding over key aspects of his economic recovery plan? And is this man capable of putting the people's interests before the interests of Wall Street?
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Show AllGeithner should be fired, but it was very evident at last night's State of the Union talk by Obama that Geithner still enjoys the president's support. I wonder if there ever will be accountability for these outrages. I'm convinced that if this had been a european country Geithner would have long since been gone and probably would be under indictment. We've become as corrupt as a banana republic haven't we.
BAKUNIN....
"We've become as corrupt as a banana republic haven't we."
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Bakunin...it's not that america has "become as corrupt as"....banana republics....no....
the truth is...THE USA is and always has been MORE corrupt , massively and profoundly, and most sophisticatedly so than ANY nation on earth.
the truth is ....the Corruption which is at the HEART of the US capitalist and robber baron financial and corporate and money RACKET system has always been MORE corrupt than ANY single nation on earth.
all that has happened is that it is simply becoming more obvious despite ALL the generations of claims abotu being otherwise or being "better" and more "accountable" and "honest" an "fair" than other nations...
all that has happened is that the FANCY PACKAGING america loves to wrap itself with about being "less corrupt" - can no longer really hold up...and its utter corruption at its heart is simply being exposed.
"SHOULD this nation fall....it will not be because of foreign enemies or threats, real or imagined.....it shall fall because the PEOPLE ARE CORRUPT"........
Benjamin Franklin.
NOTE that while Franklin, as a prediction of an event was of course speaking of a FUTURE possibility "should...it will be"....the ROOT cause he described was stated in the PRESENT tense :"the people ARE corrupt"...
in other words...he was really speaking of not just the SYSTEM itself that would collapse "not because of foreign enemies or threats".....
but that it would collapse because of WHO CREATED IT and PARTICIPATE IN IT.....namely :
"THE PEOPLE".
one can see that even THEN ...he could see how GRASPING americans already WERE...and that it was a character that can only be described as what he did:
CORRUPT...THE PEOPLE...ARE corrupt
and therefore CREATE and PARTICIPATE IN a system that IS corrupt.
this is something few americans really think about...such a seemingly simple statement by Franklin...but it speaks right to the heart of what "america" really is all about:
CORRUPTION.
and one can even say that all the now-notorious reputation or perception of america globally as being a nation that thinks it is so exceptional - its "HUBRIS" - all the moralizing and lecturing to the world about how to behave ...all its so-called "law abiding nature".....
is a very long, elaborately propped-up system to MASK what
"THE PEOPLE" themselves know , deep down, is their OWN national CORRUPTION.
it is that all these POSTURINGS about being "free, democratic, justice, fairness, hard work,...etc"....
are really the equivalent of someone that KNOWS HE STINKS so he takes on very expensive PERFUME to constantly pour on himself...while lecturing others about not taking a bath properly.
you might want to note also:
in most cases - banana republics are so-called because the vast majority of their people are SO POOR , or a great number are so , with a few ruling families that are so corrupt or oligarchic that , in order to MERELY SURVIVE, - we are not talking about having the "comforts" of modern civilization...but merely to have 2 meals a day - most are REDUCED to practicing what is , by "western standards of accountability" --- corrupt practices....
that is: "under the table bribes, favor for favor. giving gifts..." etc...
but in AMERICA CORRUPTION among people is DISGUISED under the LAWFULNESS of such corruption...where people are corrupt NOT because they are trying to "merely survive" as would be in a banana republic (many of these being themselves COERCE BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and other western powers to BECOME what they became,,,with impoverished populations DRIVEN to "corrupt practices")
on the contrary -- in america CORRUPTION is LEGAL and LAWFUL...
but its citizens practice it "in order to GET AHEAD" -- not merely to SURVIVE.
see the difference? i KNOW this because I was born and grew up in the Philippines where we have "corruption"
but THAT is NOTHING compared to the corruption - ALL UNDER LAW - that is the NATURE of american life itself.
Here's an article by Matt Taibi that just knocked me out
http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/01/27/populism-just-like-racism/
Thanks! Good read.
I agree!
Thanks for posting the link!
“Banks Bundled Bad Debt, Bet Against It and Won”
Gretchen Morgenson and Louise Story, The New York Times, 12/23/09
So WTF is the Federal Government doing to stop the same fraudulent banking $hit that would have caused AIG to collapse without a U.S. Taxpayer bailout?
END The FED and everyone and thing involved with them.
That will help save America.
As far as the Bailouts go, I seriously doubt letting AIG go under would have caused bank runs, more unemployment than we have today, more people losing their homes and life savings than we already have today.
The only people who would have been hurt would have been the AIG people from the workers all the way up to the RICH CEO people. It would have done nothing to the American Economy.
Thats like saying if McDonalds went out of business everyone would starve to death. NO, In fact everyone would be that much healthier, because now they couldn't eat that disgusting garbage anymore.
END The FED and America will get healthy again.
And back to the bailouts, they could have used a quarter of that bailout money, what was it a little over a TRILLION Dollars after all was said and done (and we still have High Unemployment, High Loss of Houses and Savings - Everyone Except the Too BIG To Fail people felt the pain) they could have given EVERY American a Million bucks and it would have been a Hell of a lot cheaper than all the Bailouts and it would have given everyone the opportunity to save their homes, save some money, pay off their debt - that would have been a REAL Stimulus Package to save Americans.
But instead they opted for the Way More Costly, Only save the Too BIG to Fail Bankers Insurance Companies, Wall Street Moguls and the CEO's.
Then Obomber has the gall to say he too was mad about the TARP Bailouts, etc.
Yea right!
Global Corruption Report 2009 focuses on corruption and the private sector
The 2010 report will be focusing on climate change
The 2008 report was on corruption in the water sector
http://www.transparency.org/publications/gcr
Kaufman: "Just the same question that has loomed over Geithner since his nomination: is this really the man the President wants presiding over key aspects of his economic recovery plan? And is this man capable of putting the people's interests before the interests of Wall Street?"
Of course Obama wants Geithner to run the administration's economic recovery plan. After all the president's agenda is clearly to protect his pals on Wall Street. Remember, Goldman Sachs donated nearly $1 million to Obama's campaign. Geithner, Summers et al are all tied in with the crooks who looted the US treasury while the nation's economy circled the drain.
God bless Amerikkka!
Thanks for posting the locations of the Goldman Sachs offices! Last week, a small, but dedicated group of us, in NYC, protested at 85 Broad Street -- over the noon hour.
An organized group should work on planning a coordinated effort across the nation!
asdflkjhasdflkjhasdflkjhwertqwerrty.... uhgh, Typing is so boring, they are waiting for the other shoe to drop. They are waiting for despair do drive us into the street so they can criminalize us.
We have weapons industry, enforcement ( security) industry and financial (sic) "industry.
Everything is shot to hell
they could have used a quarter of that bailout money, what was it a little over a TRILLION Dollars after all was said and done (and we still have High Unemployment, High Loss of Houses and Savings - Everyone Except the Too BIG To Fail people felt the pain) they could have given EVERY American a Million bucks and it would have been a Hell of a lot cheaper than all the Bailouts and it would have given everyone the opportunity to save their homes, save some money, pay off their debt - that would have been a REAL Stimulus Package to save Americans.
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