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With Health Care Bill All but Passed, Time for Backroom Deals
WASHINGTON - With Senate passage of health-care legislation now virtually certain, Washington lawmakers and interest groups are scrambling to influence one of Congress' most mysterious but most powerful institutions - the conference committee.
Senate GOP leaders Mitch McConnell, Lamar Alexander and Jon Kyl will have no role in combining the House-Senate health care bills. | Associated Press The Senate is expected to pass its version of the $871 billion health-care overhaul early Thursday, after 58 Democrats and two independents agreed Tuesday to cut off another Republican-led debate.
If the bill passes, it will need to be reconciled with the version the House of Representatives passed on Nov. 7. That job falls to a House-Senate conference committee, a group that likely will consist of a handful of senior lawmakers loyal to party congressional leaders, and working behind closed doors.
To most Americans, the conference process is an enigma, rarely taught in history or civics lessons. Even the "School House Rock" classic animated step-by-step primer, "I'm Just a Bill,'' skipped over the conference committee's role.
On Capitol Hill, however, it's a tradition steeped in late-night, closed-door deals and howls of protest from the frozen-out minority party.
"Probably the best part of the sausage-making process is the least understood and the most important," said former House Budget Committee Chairman Jim Nussle.
Nussle, an Iowa Republican and a former director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, said it isn't unusual for a chairman to call one official, open a conference meeting with all Democratic and Republican appointees present and then quickly adjourn the session.
The conference then usually goes behind closed doors, oftentimes without telling the minority conferees - in health care's case, Republicans - when or where the meetings are being held, Nussle said.
While health-care committee members haven't been named yet, it's widely expected that they'll include Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., one of the Senate bill's architects, as well as: Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.; Senate committee chairmen Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Tom Harkin, D-Iowa; and House committee chairmen Charles Rangel of New York, and George Miller and Henry Waxman of California, according to Harkin.
The Senate version is likely to dominate, because the conference needs the support of party moderates to get the 60 Senate votes it eventually will need to overcome procedural hurdles.
"Anybody who understands this process knows how hard it is to get 60 votes," said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., the chairman of the Budget Committee. "So it's clear the bill will need to be close to the Senate version."
Former Rep. Barbara Kennelly of Connecticut, now the president of the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, agreed.
"The Senate has taken the House hostage, that's all there is to it," she said. "Do we have health-care reform in the bill the way we like it? No. I have to be for the bill because it's a starting point.''
Conferees are considered loyal to their party leaders, and in the Democrats' case, to the White House. While administration officials aren't part of the health-care conference, Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, health care expert Nancy-Ann DeParle and others are expected to be in close touch.
"Every conference I've been on for 30-plus years has had White House involvement," Harkin said.
At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs Tuesday wouldn't get specific about President Barack Obama's role, saying, "I am not going to get into from here . . . what those negotiations may look like."
However, he said, "Health-care reform is not a matter of 'if.' Health care reform now is a matter of 'when.'"
The major flashpoints are well known: The House version has tough limits on federal abortion funding; the Senate bill is less restrictive. The House includes a public option; the Senate doesn't, and while the House would impose an income tax surcharge on the wealthy, the Senate opts for a higher Medicare payroll tax for higher-income wage earners and an excise tax on expensive insurance policies.
This much is likely: Whatever happens will unfold in secrecy after some tough bargaining.
Paul Ginsburg, the president of the Center for Studying Health System Change, a nonpartisan research group, predicted that fights would go well beyond those that are now obvious.
For instance, the insurance exchanges, or marketplaces where consumers could shop for coverage, are structured differently in the two bills. Also likely are differences over how to create savings in Medicare. The two bills approach the problem differently.
The internal dynamics of a conference can sometimes be reminiscent of Reginald Rose's "12 Angry Men," a play about tension in a deadlocked jury, where stamina, personality, ego and sometimes stubbornness can play major roles, said former Sen. Bob Kerrey of Nebraska.
"People like myself who have run for office before, we have 25 percent more capacity for self-delusion than most people," said Kerrey, now the president of the New School in New York. "In conference, it comes down to, 'If they get to know me, they'll support me."
Fatigue could also become a factor, Kerrey said, particularly among Senate conferees. The House adjourned last week for a lengthy holiday break, but the Senate has worked almost nonstop since Thanksgiving and is poised to work up to Christmas Eve.
The average age of the 100-member Senate is 61.7 years old, according to the Center on Congress at Indiana University. The average age of the 435-member House is 56.
"Fatigue is a factor," Kerrey said. "I have trouble staying awake after 10 p.m."
(Margaret Talev contributed to this article.)

23 Comments so far
Show AllThe "Health Care Bill" IS one big back room deal.
Everyone should dedicate themselves to exposing Barack "Barry Soetoro" Obama for the fraud/tool that he is. This could be the political story/coup of the century, and we would teach the DINOS and RINOS NEVER SCREW WITH US AGAIN!
Babrbara Kennelly has to be for the bill "because its a starting point"?
Yes it is a starting point that will make a bad situation worse and not a starting point to remedy any of the problems or meet any of the goals Obama articulated when he took office. It will weaken the existing Medicare program that Kennelly is allegedly protecting.
Health care reform will be Obama's Waterloo because he launched it with back room deals with people he criticized during the campaign, not because of any Republican action.
Stop your bitching, all you right wing christain republican lunatics,
you were all for warrant less surviellance, vigilante community watch gang stalking torture, and the patriot act while bush/chenney was funneling millions to these stazi programs...
now your crying " unconstitutional " woes .
SHUT UP YOU TREASONOUS FAKE PATRIOTS, WHY DID YOU NOT STAND UP TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION, YOU HAVE SAT SILENT FOR 7 YEARS , AND NOT ONCE TRYED TO SHUT DOWN THE PATRIOT ACT, WHICH IS THE WORST UNCONSTITUTIONAL LEGESLATION EVER WRITTEN IN TO AMERICAN LAW.
Now we are going to have a health care bill rammend down our throats , and you cant stop it, just like i could not stop your stazi network of gang stalking fake christian minions form stalking and torturing me for three years. 24/7
there goal was to drive me crazy, loose my job, destitute. FU ,
screw you, pick a side , constitution or patriot act, stazi police or Ajmerican Patriot.
i have chosen mine, constitution and American Patriot,
To hell with the christian stazi police.
So in other words the lobbyists and the sellout politicians can meet behind closed doors to plot the rape and pillage of the Amerikkkan people on the cynically-titled health care bill. Talk about the "Louisiana Purchase," the "Florida Flim-flam," and the "Cornhusker Compromise;" well, you ain't seen nothin' yet!
When will we finally have had enough for We the People to be in the streets demanding justice for these traitors?
I will do it when my TV tells me too.
There has been no compromise in health care "reform", only capitulation. Its the Cornhusker Capitulation, not the cornhusker compromise.
Mine just tells me its time for lunch
"12:00"..."12:00"..."12:00"
Boy: Woof! You sure gotta climb through a lot of horseshit to get to this Capitol Building here in Washington. But I wonder who that sad little scrap of paper is?
I'm just a bill.
Yes, I'm only a bill.
Getting pimped out here on Capitol Hill.
Well, it's a long, long journey
To the capital city.
It's a long, long wait
While they screw me in committee,
But I know I'll be a law someday
At least my backers paid so some will shill,
But today I am still just a bill.
Boy: Gee, Bill, you certainly take a lot of money and influence.
Bill: Well I got this far. When I started, I wasn't even a bill, I was just an bribe. Some corporation back home decided they needed an advantage, so they blackmailed their local Congressman and he said, "Dont publish the photos, I'll pimp your damned law." Then called in the corporate lobbiests and had them write me out and whored me out Congress. And I became a bill, and I'll remain a bill until they all get paid off.
I'm just a bill
Yes I'm only a bill,
And I'm whoring up on Capitol Hill.
Well, now I'm sucking a committee
And I'll kneel here and wait
While the corrupt Congressmen horsetrade for my fate
And whether this bribery is against the law.
And how much skim they can take,
But today I am still just a bill.
Boy: Listen to those congressmen counting! Is all that money and influence peddling for you?
Bill: Yeah, and I'm one of the cheap ones. Most bills cost a whole lot more. I hope they all got enough graft, otherwise I may die.
Boy: Die?
Bill: Yeah, die in committee. Whoo Oooh, the holdout has been paid off! Now I go to the House of Representatives, and they get paid.
Boy: And when they are all enriched enough , what happens?
Bill: Then I go to the Senate and the bankrolling REALLY gets expensive.
Boy: Oh no!
Bill: Oh yes!
I'm just a bill
Yes, I'm only a bill
And if they buy my way through Capitol Hill
Well, then I'm off to the White House
Where Obama will sign
A new signing statement
that says I'm whatever he wants
And if he signs me, then I'll be a law.
How I hope and pray that he will,
But today I am still just a bill.
Boy: You mean even if the whole Congress says you should be a law, the president can still say no?
Bill: Yes, that's called a veto. If the congress strip out all the meaningful parts of me, the President can vetoes me. Then I have to go back to Congress and they get to screw me again, and by that time you're so broke...
Boy: By that time it's very unlikely that you'll become a law. It's not easy to become a law, is it?
Bill: No!
But how I hope and I pray that I will,
But today I am still just tossing bills.
Congressman: We threw the progressives under the bus. Now you're a law!
Bill: Oh shit!
You're beautiful, Mujeriego. Will you marry me?
Sure, but you just want me for my free Canadian health care, don't you?
No, baby, I love you because of your mind, you know that. What's your sign? LOL
Bravo..... Bravo...
I'd love to be able to animate this. Could start out with the cute little bill from Schoolhouse Rock, then progressively dress more like a crack ho, and wind up at the end looking like a bloated Jabba the Hut in lipstick, garter and hose.
Quite telling that not one female will be on the conference committee.
If progressives in the senate will just vote no, then this piece of dog do do will go down to its well deserved defeat and we can say no to the health insurance industry as it's so hard to get those "60 votes," Hell, even the house progressives could just simply not vote for this horse hockey and stop it,
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The Democrats will be punished bad in the next election(s). Why? Their hollow calls of bi-partisanship were just a figleaf meaning that both parties get to screw us. Obama an awful one termer and you can bet your hiney that congress will lose LOTS of seats over this. If I thought the Democrats actually wanted to win, I would suggest they implement the mandate that the people swept them into office with. But alas, they seem to want to be the permanent minority. Roast in hell for selling us out. But rest assured, you will NEVER get another one of my votes, liars and traitors all!
I have zero faith and no expectation of anything productive happening. I suppose we should be grateful if they don't end up with a provision for the use of tasers on everyone who isn't paying the medical insurance industry.
Our government doesn't work; the system really is malfunctional and broken. In fact, it's not "our government", it's been totally taken over by the PTB who consider everyone outside the bubble to be cattle or cannon-fodder, and good only for bleeding dry and letting die.
Congress and the Administration are adept at and happy to lie openly to us on camera. The backroom secrecy thing is done only 'because they can'.
This may happen in a back room, but there's no longer any mystery involved.
The Senate members will strip out the few useful trinkets included in the House version - starting with the rump "public option". The House members will eliminate the couple of crumbs that survived the Senate debacle. Together, they'll polish a perfectly regressive, fascist corporate welfare bill by doubling down on abortion prohibition, then toast each other and call it a day.
No insurance company left behind!
Big Insurance and Big Healthscare Companies: Now that they are in charge I'm sure that they will really go after the people who are poisoning the American people with corn syrup and air/water polution. I'm sure this will be better than having our Senators and Congress Critters giving these homocidal maniacs our tax money to continue poisoning us and our children. Yeah, you betcha!
REGARDING A NATIONAL STRIKE
How about trying this, everyone who is feeling anger and despair over corporate control of our government:
1.)Post the following message (or one of your own) on at least one other forum:
It's time to institute a NATIONAL STRIKE to protest the corrupt legislation being touted as health care reform. Would you be willing to take action on the day this legislation passes the House, such as calling in sick to work, refusing to buy any goods or services, gathering at noon in your town or city to protest (even with others who may differ with you on other issues) the inherent corruption of this bill and corporate control of our system, or to meet in consensus forums to work with others to devise solutions? Please reply with any positive suggestions or ideas on this forum or in the Comments section following relevant articles on CommonDreams.org.
Please don't bother posting depressing hypotheses about how the "sheeple" will not respond to this call to action--that in itself is the kind of mainstream media-manufactured sheeple response that the corporate elites are Banking on.
2.) Ask at least five people each day if they are aware of the ramifications of this bill and if they would be willing to consider participating in such an action, or if they have any other ideas to bring to this discussion. Ask, invite, discuss. See if you can find key points of agreement--this is the holiday season and lots of us will be spending time with family members who have different political views but this can be a great unifying moment in taking back our country.
Make these two actions your homework assignment for the day and I guarantee your feelings of alienation and despair will abate, and that will bring the energy for the next step.
Royce
It's the night before Christmas
and all through the House
The pols will be smirking
While critics must grouse....
Look, why worry? Sign the bill, let's be done with the BS. Implementation is still two election cycles away. That means two more congresses will tinker with or castrate it-- along with regulators who will attempt to reconcile its conflicting language.
Let's see what we have in five years-- if anything. Meanwhile, time for a hot toddy. It's cold out.
Jon Kyl eats shit