Bernie Sanders Pledges to Hang Tough for Strong Public-Option
Another Independent Could Be the Spoiler as Reid Moves Forward
With a pronounced independent streak to match his political alignment, Bernie Sanders of Vermont may be another headache for Democrats trying to cobble together 60 votes for healthcare reform in the coming weeks.
At a time when most attention is being paid to the Senate's other, more well-known Independent, Connecticut's Joe Lieberman, it is Sanders who could end up playing spoiler for Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). As Reid struggles to find 60 votes that will unite on procedural votes, his party's centrists are pulling the healthcare bill politically rightward while Sanders is staking out a far-left position.
Asked if he will support Democrats on procedural votes once the healthcare bill hits the Senate floor, Sanders was repeatedly noncommital, twice telling The Hill that he intends to push for a bill that includes a government-run, public-option insurance component and refusing to guarantee his support on cloture votes.
"All I'll say for now is that I want the strongest public option possible in the bill," Sanders said. "Beyond that, we're going to have to look at what develops."
Pressed further, Sanders's office also offered no guarantees.
"He is pleased that Sen. Reid has said that the bill will include a public option and he looks forward to seeing the detailed legislation," said a Sanders spokesman.
Sanders caucuses with Democrats, and usually falls in line with the party's philosophy. But like Lieberman, he can stray on a whim - and on healthcare, his insistence on a public option may force Reid to reach out for another Republican vote even if all other Democrats support procedural votes.
In recent years, Sanders has bucked Democrats on procedural votes for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), on multiple immigration reform measures and on funding for U.S. troops in Iraq, among other issues. In all, a Washington Post voting scorecard shows him bucking Democrats on 10 cloture votes in 2007 alone.
Democratic leaders say Sanders behaves differently from the party's other centrists, such as Evan Bayh (Ind.), because Sanders at least usually notifies leadership whenever he intends to cast a procedural vote against leaders' wishes. Bayh often doesn't.
"Bayh surprises us," said one senior Democratic aide. "But we usually know what Sanders is thinking, and he's pretty consistent. We think he'll be with us when it matters."
Yet since Sanders usually follows the lead of Democratic leaders, other observers say he is likely simply being stubborn as part of an effort to win some kind of concession for his state, as many senators do.
"I'd be surprised if Sanders decided to be a thorn in the leadership's side on healthcare," said Jennifer Duffy, a senior editor who covers the Senate for The Cook Political Report. "On the big issues, he is generally with them."
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23 Comments so far
Show AllBravo, Senator Sanders! Thank you for representing the people of your great state and the people of the United States. Here, from BLOOMBERG, is an example of what, as shach pointed out above, we're up against:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4yV1nYxCGoA
Apparently, Big Pharma just views the fines by the FDA as another cost of doing business. It's time to take the profit motive out of healthcare, including those nauseating and expensive TV ads.
If you have not seen Senator Sanders' series produced by BRAVE NEW FILMS, I highly recommend it. It's good to know that at someone in Congress is actually taking his job seriously. Please don't make any more comparisons between Senator Sanders and that turncoat Lie-berman.
That's good news. I'll have to check out the series. One of favorite Bernie Sanders moments was when he recited a long list of fraudulent of the insurance industries and Pharma and the huge settlements, one of them being ripping off Medicaid (Medicare might have made the list, too), and to think it's just the cost of doing business. During this whole health care debate I was posting the link to this video on just about health insurance reform article on HuffPo. And then it got yanked off YouTube.
One of Obama's favorite lines on health care (insurance) reform is "keeping the insurance companies honest." How do you keep two industries that haven't been honest in decades honest? How is that possible?
Dems can't even get a shitty health care plan past the cons.
Yep--Beyond absurd.
Give us more in Washington like Bernie.
This bill is a compromise in the sense that a surrender is a compromise.
Never let them get away with the word "compromise". Tell them straight up that it's concession, not "compromise" and they will be put on the defensive.
sierra7
Bravo! Bernie Sanders!
For this writer to compare Bernie S. with that scum sucking, worm crawling, lower than dirt Lieberman he should receive ten lashes with a Guantanamo republican noodle!!
How dare you, sir!!
And, we see the amateurish writing as you succumb to using the old shibboleth about being, "...a left leaning radical"!
Bernie Sanders doesn't change his moods on "...a whim!"
Away with you!!
GO SANDERS!!!
Somebody hand that man a silver bullet.
..."while Sanders is staking out a far-left position."
Stop reading The Hill's article there. Far-left? Guess again. Sanders position is beyond mainstream or even a supermajority.
NY Times/CBS News Poll: 66 to 72 percent favor a "government administered" plan.
Question #49. Would you favor or oppose the government offering everyone a government administered health insurance plan — something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get - that would compete with private health insurance plans?
6/12-16/09
Favor 72
Oppose 20
DK/NA 7
7/9-12/09
Favor 64
Oppose 29
DK/NA 7
7/24-28/09
Favor 66
Oppose 27
DK/NA 7
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/nytint/docs/new-york-times-cbs-news-poll-health-care-over...
http://tinyurl.com/yh7aw2f
..."while Sanders is staking out a far-left position."
I noticed this too and was furious enough to call them on it. This kind of spin is exactly how Obama/the dems get painted as extremists when nothing could be further from the truth. (But the meme sure helps move the center so far to the right, that the policies of the last 8 years can be spun as the norm.)
But this shows the Dems considerably to the right of the population, and 0's position in the Middle East is extreme: hey, he's escalating occupation in 2 countries and bombing a 3rd.
0's not the leftist the teabaggers paint him, but he's not moderate either. And Pelosi - uuf.
Yes, exactly. The 'moderate' dems are just as extreme as the Palin republicans...only they sound more rational, smarter. Obama and the moderate dems will finish the job bush/cheney started, but with barely a whimper from the left. All so Orwellian.
Rushing sez: "... Sanders at least usually notifies leadership whenever he intends to cast a procedural vote against leaders' wishes. Bayh often doesn't."
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Now, that's just an unfair jab at Bayh.
Sometimes those lobbyist contributions don't make it into his pocket until the last minute, leaving no time to notify leadership of his newfound convictions.
Is there something unethical about holding out for the highest bidder?
Dear Bernie,
It is time to put or shut up and make your past claims into action, including OPPOSING this BILL if it DOES NOT Have the proper things in it at the end!!!!
Bernie you must oppose this bill if its just free and more free giveaways to the Insurance Companies.....
Obama said after all, that this is "health insurance reform" and not actually "healthcare reform."
Sorry but it seems our dear Senator Sanders has mastered the art of simultaneously talking and doing nothing.
The mose glaring example is the pollution that Bernie knew about for years in our environmentally friendly, green state of Vermont. I'm talking about Agri-Mark in Cabot (you know that great Vermont Cabot cheese, don't you?).
Well, this is what has gone on in Cabot, Vermont and surrounding towns for the past 25 or so years for the sake of corporate profit and while legislators like Leahy and Sanders had there eyes wide shut:
High cancer rates from benzene. Also lung irritant toulene. These chenicals are among those involved in 100,000 to 150,000 GALLONS of spraying fields from May to November.
Jill from Vermont wrote this:
...there are three ways Agri-Mark disposes of waste:
1. The non-sewage dairy wastewater is sprayed onto fields via trucks.
2. This same non-sewage dairy wastewater is trucked to farmer's manure pits and pumped into them so the farmers can spread it "wily nilly" without restrictions at all.
3. The so called polished permeate is pumped from the Agri-Mark main building to three unlined lagoons where it is stored. They claim this stuff is "pure water" but aren't allowed to put it into the river directly. (Does that tell you that it isn't "pure water" or what!) Then it is pumped UPHILL for about a quarter of a mile. This stuff is Not ALLOWED to be land applied anywhere else except on my old family farmstead and a small field below it. There are huge sprayers, we counted around 20 but I never wanted to go near enough to physically count them, that solely spray this junk onto the same areas from something like May-Nov. 1 EVERY DAY in hopes that it will "evaporate" and become airborne. Naturally since I live due East of these sprayers, I am bound to get some residues. The remained of the "permeate" water runs downhill and makes it's path wherever water does with the Winooski river nearby. At a District 5 environmental commission site visit, I insisted that we visit the fields, lagoons. Pecolar (AGri-Mark) insisted that there were no sprayers in the beautiful old hayfields on our old farm. I rather forced them to stop and walked the entire commission and citizens out into my old field (which Agri-Mark had purposely turned the sprayers off that day probably in fear that this might happen,) and showed them that there were INDEED many, many sprayers located there and discovered even more of them on a steep slope on a field below that one. (I would estimate at least 20 sprayers) I also pointed out areas where cinderblocks were placed to slow down the flow of these waters and apparent erosion clear to me and Jessica Miller to be the result of water flow that had been taken place. I also noted that our beautiful hayfield had turned to moss. Agri-Mark announced that they were going to have it planted to winter rye but had been letting my neighbor grow pumpkins commercially there for the past couple of years. The upper part of that same field has been seen to also receive "non-sewage dairy waste" sprayings as well. No pumpkins were planted this year at all so apparently things didn't grow that well there as my neighbor reported across the street. On that same site visit, District 5 Environmental, Agri-Mark, party status members present, I asked Agri-Mark's Pecolar why the backhoes were down making repairs on these lagoons several times if they were so secure. He at first denied this and then when I reported that I SAW them there several times he offered up that the Muskrats had made holes in the sides of the embankment causing the ponds to "leak" on many occasions.
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Sanders AND Leahy are just shills for big business. They give lip service to the environment while allowing corporations to trash Vermont so Vermonters can have jobs. I do not think more jobs + more cancer is a solution. Do you?
For more info go here:
http://greenmountaindaily.com/
Amen EastCoastLefty101 !
I can't believe that Sanders isn't bringing up his own S 703 for a simple vote for all his talk on getting a stronger public option, whatever that is anymore. If he really cared to strengthen, actually bring up a real public option, he would be better off bringing his own bill to the floor and forcing senators from both parties to tell the public who they are with.
Sigh, you're right. :(
Yes he is. Check Bernie's voting record as a representative. He is mostly talk and no walk. While he was howling about Nike sweat shops. he was taking campaign contributions from Enron.
He is a great talker, though.
I continue to be believe he is allowed to yell and howl to fool us into believing we have a democracy. I wish it weren't so.
Sanders has the courage of his principles. Without a real pubic option the insurance and pharmaceutical industries will dictate costs.
Sanders has the courage of his principles. Without a real pubic option the insurance and pharmaceutical industries will dictate costs.