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Iran War Drums Begin Beating in Washington
WASHINGTON - As nuclear negotiations between Iran and the West
continue to move slowly, U.S. President Barack Obama is coming under
growing pressure from what appears to be a concerted lobbying and media
campaign urging him to act more aggressively to stop Iran's nuclear
program.
Obama has given Tehran
an end-of-September deadline to respond substantively to his offer of
diplomatic engagement. But already hawks in the U.S. – backed by
hardline pro-Israel organizations – have pressed him to quickly impose
"crippling" economic sanctions against Tehran, and some are arguing
that he should make preparations for a military attack on Iranian
nuclear facilities.
The
pressure campaign kicked off in earnest this week. On Thursday,
hundreds of leaders and activists from the U.S. Jewish community
descended on Washington to lobby for harsher sanctions, while
widely-publicised media reports suggested that Iran is already nearing
the verge of a nuclear capability.
Leaders from Jewish groups came for a national "Advocacy Day on Iran", during which they met with key Congressional figures.
Rep.
Howard Berman, a California Democrat who heads the House Foreign
Affairs Committee, suggested that the clock "has almost run out" on
Iran's nuclear program, and indicated that he would move ahead next
month with a bill imposing sanctions on Iran's refined petroleum
imports "absent some compelling evidence why I should do otherwise".
The
bill, the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act (IRPSA), has for months
been the top lobbying priority of hawkish pro-Israel lobbying groups
led by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). To their
frustration, Berman has held up consideration of the bill for most of
the past year
Not all U.S. Jewish groups are lining up behind the legislation, however.
Americans
for Peace Now (APN), for instance, issued a statement arguing that
"arbitrary deadlines are a mistake" and that "pursuing sanctions that
target the Iranian people, rather than their leaders, is a morally and
strategically perilous path that the Obama Administration must reject".
M.J.
Rosenberg, a foreign policy analyst at Media Matters Action Network,
suggested on the website TPMCafe that the advocacy day "marks the start
of the fall push on Iran".
The advocacy group United Against
Nuclear Iran (UANI) has launched an intensive television advertising
campaign this month claiming that the U.S. "must isolate Iran
economically to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon".
UANI's
two co-founders are now both high-ranking officials in the Obama
administration – Dennis Ross, currently overseeing Iran policy at the
National Security Council (NSC), and Richard Holbrooke, now the State
Department special representative in charge of Afghanistan and
Pakistan.
Also on Thursday, the New York Times published a
front-page story claiming that U.S. intelligence agencies believe "that
Iran has created enough nuclear fuel to make a rapid, if risky, sprint
for a nuclear weapon", although the article did not provide an estimate
of when Iran could have a nuclear capability.
The same day, the
Wall Street Journal published an op-ed by former Senators Charles Robb
and Daniel Coats and retired four-star Air Force General Chuck Wald.
Claiming that Iran "will be able to manufacture enough highly enriched
uranium for a nuclear weapon in 2010", the authors urged Obama "to
begin preparations for the use of military options" against Iran.
However,
official U.S. intelligence estimates provide a far slower timeline. In
February, Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Dennis Blair told
Congress that Iran would be unable to produce highly enriched uranium
(HEU) until at least 2013, and stated that there is "no evidence" that
Iran had even made a decision to produce HEU.
Iran insists that
its nuclear program is intended solely for civilian purposes. In
2007, the U.S. intelligence community released a National Intelligence
Estimate suggesting that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program
in 2003.
The campaign comes on the eve of a series of key
international meetings in late September, including the annual opening
of the U.N. General Assembly in New York and the Group of 20 (G20)
Summit in Pittsburgh.
Iran and its nuclear program are
expected to be a major topic for world leaders who will attend these
meetings, and hawks in Washington and Jerusalem hope that Obama will
use them to push for the imposition of far-reaching economic sanctions
by the U.N. Security Council as soon as possible.
While Obama
faces pressure to move quickly to sanctions, the government of Iranian
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is still struggling at home to overcome
challenges to its legitimacy resulting from the disputed presidential
election in June. Many analysts suggest that Iran's government is
currently in no position to respond coherently to U.S. engagement.
This
week, Ahmadinejad's government finally issued a formal reply to
proposals by the P5+1 powers - the U.S., China, Russia, Britain,
France, and Germany - for talks on its nuclear program and related
issues.
But the five-page-reply has been deemed too vague by
Washington, with State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley dismissing it
Thursday as "not really responsive" to U.S. concerns.
Other analysts suggested that the Iranian proposal was more promising than initial media reports would indicate.
"Iran's
uncompromising stance and its cursory references to nuclear matters are
most likely an opening bid, and not a red line," wrote National Iranian
American Council (NIAC) president Trita Parsi in the Huffington Post.
He
suggests that the proposal's language "may offer an opening to push
strongly for transparency and acceptance of intrusive inspections and
verification mechanisms".
The Obama administration, however, continues to hold out hope for the engagement strategy.
"We'll
be looking to see how ready Iran is to actually engage, and we will be
testing that willingness to engage in the next few weeks," Crowley said.
At
the same time, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov all but ruled out
his country's cooperation with new sanctions against Tehran at the
Security Council, and called instead for renewed negotiations based on
Iran's reply.
Lavrov's comments came shortly after a secret and
still-mysterious visit to Russia by Israel's right-wing prime minister,
Benjamin Netanyahu.
The latest developments - along with growing
amount of attention being paid to U.S. policy in Afghanistan, at the
expense of Iran - have only added to the frustration of Iran hawks in
Washington. They believe increasingly that economic sanctions alone,
even if they are imposed multilaterally, are unlikely to be enough to
persuade Tehran to halt what they see as its drive to obtain a nuclear
weapon.
For this reason, many suggest that the U.S. should
either make preparations to attack Iran militarily itself, or step
aside and allow Israel to do so.
"No one should believe that
tighter sanctions will, in the foreseeable future, have any impact on
Iran's nuclear weapons program," former U.N. ambassador John Bolton, a
noted hardliner, wrote in the Wall Street Journal last month. "Adopting
tougher economic sanctions is simply another detour away from hard
decisions on whether to accept a nuclear Iran or support using force to
prevent it."
Earlier that month, the Journal featured an article
by Gen. Wald - who was one of the co-authors of Thursday's op-ed urging
preparations for a military strike - entitled "Of Course There's a
Military Option on Iran".
But critics suggest that the constant
threats of military action against Tehran will only make the regime's
leadership more intransigent on the nuclear issue.
"Pointing a
gun at their heads merely reinforces their desire for a reliable
deterrent, and probably strengthens the hand of any Iranian officials
who think they ought to get a bomb as soon as possible," wrote Stephen
Walt, a professor of international relations at Harvard University, on
the website of Foreign Policy magazine.
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Show AllThis article quotes a lot of hawks like John Bolton.
Even if Iran had a nuke, what makes people think they will start a nuclear war against THEMSELVES!
"For this reason, many suggest that the U.S. should either make preparations to attack Iran militarily itself, or step aside and allow Israel to do so."
The article also quotes "many". And you know THOSE PEOPLE are always right.
In flat contradiction to the detailed presentation in this article, what's relevant is the "many" in the USA are busy running the rat wheels which enables the "few" in the USA to plunder the earth. Please vote again next election to preserve the status quo. After all, running our rat wheels is all we know.
Only if Israel gives up their nukes should Iran not be allowed to possess them--could it be that maybe we are in Iraq and Afghanistan so as to position ourselves for a Zionist attack against Iran? With all these Nazis-trained neo-cons clambering their drums of war--I seriously wonder???
There's no doubt about it Jim,
It's the classic pincher move buttressed by Pakistan to the South (and the US Navy in the Indian Ocean) and NATO bases to the North. We've got them surrounded, and they've been hurting the Oil mafia's profits (exxon, bp, etc) by threatening to flood the world with cheap oil and to not take worthless US dollars for it.
I've been really surprised that we didn't hit them already. Cheney's Haliburton was reported years ago to have natural gas wells inside Iran in violation of the embargo (but it was laundered though the Caymen Islands so it didn't count.)
We're fully a war economy now from what I can guess, and we need to put GM back to work, so I'm guessing a WW III idea is being cooked up by Skull and Bones members and the Bilderberg Group. I'm not sure it can be stopped.
We need to change the constitution to read: "We the Lobbyists, in order to form a more perfect monopoly, hereby use war for profit....."
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is still struggling at home to overcome challenges to its legitimacy resulting from the disputed presidential election in June. Many analysts suggest that Iran's government is currently in no position to respond coherently to U.S. engagement." - this statement is indeed misleading, given the recent, well-documented US/CIA intervention in foreign elections: Russia, with Yeltsin, the Orange revolution in the Ukraine, eastern Europe and Africa in general. point in case, John McCain sits on the advisory board of Terror Free Tomorrow,which along with the New America Foundation (Henry Kissinger, Walmart and some libertarians) commissioned the "only credible poll" on the 2009 Iranian presidential elections, predicting a solid win for Ahmadinejad. Curious, the polling was conducted by phone, outside of Iran by and undisclosed call center. the "Green Revolution" affair reeks of CIA involvement. and lets not forget that the CIA staged the 1953 coup in Iran, overthrowing a democratically elected, legitimate prime minister - over oil.
and why no mention of all the IAEA assesments, the only credible reports on the Iranian nuclear program? they clearly state Iran has no nukes and wont for a very long time.
and for a while now, the GOP has been pushing for a December showdown on Iran, pushing AIPAC's bill in Congress,the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act:
Iran Hawks Push Obama on Deadline for Diplomacy
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46949
Mark my words folks, if the U.S. and Israel attack Iran it will start WWIII,Russia will have no choice and Iran is no weak country like Iraq, not to mention the millions of Muslims this will enrage in countries like Pakistan ect.
If the Israelis and pro-Israeli Americans want to get rid of Iran's non-bomb why aren't they concerned about Pakistan's nuclear capability? And why don't the Israelis handle it themselves instead of knocking perpetually at our door? Oh, for the good old days of the cold war when both superpowers were forced to think twice before engaging in hostilities.
Because Pakistan is in with the CIA and some funding for the hijackers on 9/11 came from Pakistani secret agents... and Israel thinks 9/11 was good for their cause... that is part of the reason.
The article says "Many analysts suggest that Iran's government is currently in no position to respond coherently to U.S. engagement."
Ridiculous statement, any aggression towards Iran will unite them.
Iran has the means to blowup Israel's Nuke power plants...these hawks like to talk tough but talk is all they got now.
Not to mention that we just cut deals with India and Dubai to build them nuclear reactors. AND THEN THERE'S ISRAEL'S WMD's.
"And why don't the Israelis handle it themselves instead of knocking perpetually at our door? "
Israel is our employee, that's why. They're like a 51st state full of the Zionist equivalents to Blackwater employees. If we stop funding their wars, maybe they couldn't afford to have so many. If why didn't block every vote against them at the UN, then two thirds of the country would be "no fly zones", sanctions would kill a half a million Israeli children, and Hans Blix would be busy in Dimona.
You will read more reports of "Iranian Weapon Caches" found in Iran and Afghanistan from anonymous sources in the Government.
By the way there was much secrecy around this but recently Benjamin Netanyahu flew to Russia to hvae high level meetinsg with the Russian Government. He flew in on a private jet and the Russian Government at first refused to acknowledge that the meetinsg occurred.
The press now claims Mr Netanyahu pressed the Russians to stay out of Iran if Israel decided to attack. It also reported that Russia refused indicating they would come to the defense of iran.
I can't even read this article.
My only thought is: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
The effin NY Times and Wall Street Journal are once again printing statements by various official sources without making any attempt to verify their truth. This is such a repeat of the Vietnam era, only extended to several countries in the Mid East and in South America.
Is it a sign that people are becoming disenchanted with Israel and have to have their jingoism rekindled? Or that we need some extra justification to market more weapons? Or is it just that the press is a bunch of lazy, brain-dead scribblers who want to suck up to the powerful?
Joe
This is yet another example of pro Israel sympathizers hijacking the American political machinery for their own selfish aims.
In some ways it's similiar to the way a virus hijacks the genetic material of a cell and takes control of it.
When are Americans going to wake up and take back control of their own foreign policy and get rid of this Israel influence once and for all ?
What does Israel actually *do* for America besides spend lots of our money ?
We give, and they cry, and we give, and they cry more, and what do we ever get in return besides inheriting their problems ?
Now they want us to fight and pay for their war.
Wake up people.
you are justified in your frustration with our foreign policy here, but don't assume Israel (or Zionism) wields some incomprehensible, magic control over the US government. it is foolish to blame Jews for something they have very little say in. world wars 1 & 2 wizened western industrialists to the need of controlling the Middle East's oil, thus the mobster approach characterized by atrocities such as the Sykes-Picot agreement of 1916 and later, the rogue inception of of the Israeli state, created against the wishes of most displaced European Jews by the way, for the sake of controlling oil. thus it is Americas corporate governance which grants Israel the right to menial corruption in DC - it is a small price to pay for the wealth and power reaped by Wall St, the most un-patriotic goons of our citizenry.
The Israeli Jews are hi-jacking the American military to carry out yet another bloody aggression for them. Will the War Crimes Commission have enough rope to hang all of our war criminals?
as long as Arab oil keeps providing gargantuan profits to American oil barons , the Israeli right-wingers are our tools, not the other way around
You might be right Whirled Peas, I'm not sure.
Skull and Bones books (The Tomb in the middle of Yale University) leaked to the public are full of loyalty to the plight of the Israelites and contain songs, chants and poems glorifying the Christian capture of both Babylon and Jerusalem. Religion, historically, has always been the most powerful war tool in mobilizing the masses to their own ruin and now that "the fortress has been built on top of Babylon" as prophesied by their unspoken cult by the bushnut (the Bagdad US embassy) I fear the next step by the Skulls (Judges, Congressmen and CEO's) is to have their promised holy war on the temple mount itself.
Oil, Golden Calves and self Glory; that's what this next war is really going to be about. It has nothing to do with our well-being as citizens of the former democracy we loved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Is there no end to the madness of the Mandarins in DC & Tel Aviv? Are three countries in flames in the ME NOT enough? Do we need a fourth? ...a fifth? When will this madness end?...when the Earth has been turned to ash? Will they be HAPPY then? - when there is finally peace, because all life has been extinguished.
once all the oil has been depleted, America's captains of industry will stop wreaking havoc in the Middle East
These spiralling wars are all in a good righteous cause and must be welcomed and encouraged at every opportunity.
The Religious Right Evangelical Fundamentalists demand their Rightful Rapture and Israel is the catalyst for stirring it up.
Israelis will of course switch religions at the last moment -didn't you know that? How can anyone possibly not believe that?
The American Jews who comprise AIPAC consider Israel's interests first, and then America's, even when the Israeli position will cause enormous damage to the US.
When will American politicians stand up to this malign fifth column notwithstanding its financial and political power?
the real malignant 5th column are the American oil companies. if it weren't for Arab oil, there would be no AIPAC (and probably no Israel)
Good point. Starting with the Balfour declaration, the British and Americans did not agree to the homeland out of love for Jews. On the contrary. The powerful in both countries despised Jews. They didn't let them into their country clubs or swimming pools or let their children marry Jews.
They agreed to that location as a way to put an indebted and cooperative power base in the area, so various Arabs could not so easily unite and reclaim THEIR homelands from the different imperialist countries and the oil companies.
If it had not been in oil company interests, the homeland could have been established in Uganda in 1917 or by appropriating a prosperous swath of Germany for that purpose in 1948.
And once oil runs out, let's see how much the US will protect Israel. It is in everyone's interest to figure out some sort of peaceful coexistence, which probably requires full rights for every human being in the region.
Attacking Iran would be moronic and criminal.
Joe
How interesting that you mention the Balfour declaration. Let's have a poll among U.S. University Students which asks: "in which nation was the land promised by Mr. Balfour as a haven for Jews at the time Balfour made the declaration"? My prediction: between 1% and 5% correct answers. My experience with University students is that their knowledge of world history and world affairs is dismal, with a handful of exceptions always.
Perhaps it might be a good idea to read the actual words which are the essence of this A5 document, The Balfour Declaration. Anyone interested can see it posted on the wall of Waddesden Manor near Aylesbury Buckinghamshire, UK:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
Nothing about stealing land, nothing about 8 metre high walls (the Berlin wall was 4 at its highest point) nothing about a soley Jewish state in Palestine there either!
Perhaps it might be a good idea to read the actual words which are the essence of this A5 document, The Balfour Declaration. Anyone interested can see it posted on the wall of Waddesden Manor near Aylesbury Buckinghamshire, UK:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
Nothing about stealing land, nothing about 8 metre high walls (the Berlin wall was 4 at its highest point) nothing about a soley Jewish state in Palestine there either!
Many thanks, Maximus Decimus, for providing us with this.
It's amazing to read "...nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine...," in light of the brutal ethnic cleansing, theft, murder and apartheid, that actually happened and are still happening there.
The Russians created a Jewish Homeland in Siberia under Stalin.
The Oblast was to be a Jewish Autonomous region and wa slocated near the Chinese Border in what was called Birobidzhan.
Stalin had tried to create a Jewish Homeland where Jews could escape persecution in areas of the Ukraine before that but failed due to local opposition. This agai out of no particular love for the Jews. He just wanted to be rid of them somehow.
It must be frustrating to AIPAC and Israel that they cannot dictate Russia's foreign policy as they can with the USA and to a lesser extent NATO countries.
What is the current percentage of American politicians and business leaders who refer to themselves as being "Jewish" ? I wonder if that has anything to do with it ?
Need anyone take advice from a snarling, irascible warmonger like Bolton -someone who uses a hand grenade on his desk for a paperweight. I mean, really!
No doubt the grenade was a souvenir from the many years he spent bravely fighting for his country.
I'd like to just sit back and watch the Jews go it alone...it would be fun to watch...they are full of drek.
They are trying to get the US to "throw the brick."
They are abusers and like all abusers they are cowardly and only pick on women and children and the defenseless.
Their most efficient best weapon is the bulldozer and wall building which they use with impunity against the defenseless. And we the US are the enablers for Israelis with the billions we send them every year.
Karma is stacked against Israel for all the hardship that they've made the Palestinians endure all these years.
Please don't conflate "the Jews" with "the Israelis". This Jew thinks Iran should be approached with diplomacy (and facts in hand!).
Agree totally. Like most governments (mafia families) the peoples' wish for peace is of little concern.
With the right hand, Bibi shows the middle finger to Obama with respect to halting expansion of settlements knowing that right wing extremists and AIPAC will cover his back. With the left hand Bibi, through his proxies in US is starting to stampede the sheeple towards a third war. You never know, may be many of those without jobs will line up to go and kill those people over there. A very smart way for other peoples children in US to fight his wars.
Go! Go! Can't happen soon enough. The upcoming world war should be quite spectacular and I don't have many years left to watch the fireworks.
Is anyone taking bets on the outcome? My money's on the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Last time I checked, Iran was an associate member.
Chickenhawks are proven to be the greatest war-mongers. I want to see a poll of how many of them have ever been in a war, or even in the military.
the neocons, who are by-and-large american jews subservient to israel against the interest of the US, and who were disgraced for giving away themselves as such, are no longer useful to carry the water for israel. but the israeli determination and ambitions in the middle east never changed.israel's politic is bent on dominating the middle east. but since they don't have the muscles to do that, they reverted to leaning on their lackeys in the US to do their dirty work.camoufaged largey and intertwining this ambition with the US interest, and with the assistance of the corporate-israel-controll medii, they normally succeed with lies and deciption as has happened with the war in iraq : weapon of mass destruction, quoting unexisting british intelegence, the yellow cake, the potable germ labs( thank you general powel) etc, etc. now that was over and the neocones are useless. their new attention is diverted toward iran nuclear weapon.it is another camoflaged drama since israel cannot put the middle east under its hegemony with iran owning nuclear weapons. and here again comes the good old USA marines and armada to inforce the israeli ambitions.good luck rahm emanuel and axelrod.you may still be able to pull another war to serve israel.
The neocons are not solely represented only by Israel-subservient American Jews, as you are suggesting, and they have another interest, you haven't mentioned: A military and weapons buildup such as that envisioned in eastern Europe against the Soviet Union would certainly aid the defence portion of the American economy, and would likely presage a general buildup to a second Cold War. For this very reason neoliberals have begun to distance themselves this week from a previous Iran strategy that concentrates on obtaining Russian cooperation in obtaining sanctions. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-mankoff/the-road-to-tehran-does-n_b_284458.html
I don't think Israel is prepared to back up its threat to attack Iran if the U.S. doesn't. False Flag Nation specializes exclusively in the slaughter of the defenseless -- it's what they do. Iran is not defenseless and this fact is not lost on the consciousless and cowardice genocide monkeys that make up the IDF.
Only a few summers ago they sent ground troops into Lebanon after a merciless and wholly unjustified bombing campaign that targeted and killed over a thousand Lebanese civilians and displaced several hundred thousand more (a serious war crime), which included the use of cluster bombs. They met a determined and competent Hezbollah resistance force in this ground assault and when False Flag Nation began taking casualties they immediately turned tail and scampered back home -- a very telling international exhibition of what they're actually made of, and it will likely be their eventual undoing.
The Lebanon attack has me confused, I must admit. Was it NeoCon Warhawk revenge for Ronald Regean's well publicized retreat out of Beruit? Level the city, then go in? From the lack of coverage, near total in the English world, I cannot determine what the hell went on. I read that the world-funded no-bid contract to rebuild the city was given to "The Bin Laden Group" which used to be called "Bin Laden Brothers Contracting for Industry" and was hired repeatedly by the Carlyle Group which of course was chaired by one H.W. Bush. My guess is, that just like much of the "rebuilding" that never happened in Bagdad, it's another scam to steal money from the little guy again (the taxpayer.)
Just like the Mafia, the "Consolidators" that Thomas Jefferson so often warned us about, have consolidated all power and wealth under one tent.
This is not how the government was designed to function.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
I wonder who has considered the one big potential looser out of the prospect of a war in Iran--China.
They would loose ground on their progressive application of 'Social Capitalism' (so far a success, and successful enough to have the USA owe THEM a trillion and 'counting').
If China wishes to have their 'great experiment' continue with its success, they would need to eliminate the 'major problem' to that; i.e. an uninterrupted supply of oil. Mostly from Iran and the other Arab states.
The Arab states have a major problem, that being, the "Chosen ones" who have taken illegal possession of Israel with the major assistance of the USA (and a few other of their similar criminal nations). While doing that the Israelis have proved themselves to be a blood thirsty and dangerous nation almost identical to their major supporter, the USA.
But the USA is well armed and their integrity has always been 'challenged' and have proved themselves to be exceptionally dangerous to themselves as well as others. In fact their entire history bears this fact out.
So here is the problem that China has.
The USA being a dangerous nation of mostly criminals, supporting another nation of mostly criminals, the Israelis,
are acting as if they may 'make war' on the major supplier of
oil to China, Iran.
So the only remedy would be to eliminate the problem of the USA supporting Israel (who may wish to at 'any moment' attack Iran --whether in the name of "God" or 'national security' or 'both')---and keep the area intact.
Since Israel, being a criminal and cowardly nation, only surpassed in that category by the USA ---could never hope to survive without the USA, and would never attack Iran without the 'assurances' of the USA-- they are weak and powerless without the USA.
So to solve the problem, they must eliminate the USA, since Israel is only an appendage of the USA.
It would be suicidal to attack the USA, except for one very important consideration. They do not need to invade the USA and risk the possibility that the USA would use nuclear weapons for the third "+" time, even though China is nuclear.
Those Americans are crazy enough as it is. Just cut off the credit lines and they will turn on themselves.
Their rivers will run red with their own blood, their skies will have nuclear clouds and death will 'visit their land and stay awhile' and it will be at their own hands.
As soon as this happens the Israelis will be devoured by the Arabs---and they will deserve receiving that which they have 'visited upon others', and will cease to be anything but a small 'group of survivors'--- if that.
I think that the Iranians are laughing at the Israeli and USA intimations of another illegal war of aggression. They are sure to realize that the USA has now become its own worst enemy. The few 'decent Americans (12 of them) are out numbered and over powered by the fools who have been in control from the beginning. They cannot even manage their own economy or any other vital factor much less win the wars they start. But for that matter, neither can the Israelis.
Speaking as one of the USA's 'prisoners of one of their other illegal wars of aggression', I recommend highly that they 'attack Iran'----the sooner the better.
"If the USA were another nation, the USA would invade the USA to keep the world safe' and they would be justified."
Good Luck America, you really need it.
Read the book, "The Unsteady March". I'm sure it is behind a lot of what President Obama is doing in regards to war. You see, when all is said and done, President Obama would like to do something to help African Americans. I think he's going about it the wrong way but what I think doesn't count.
The conclusion of this well researched and scholarly book on the role of African Americans in the USA from the moment slaves were brought to the colonies to the present is that African Americans have progressed in their liberty, freedom and rights in the USA ONLY during periods of hot or cold war. In each war, from the revolutionary war when they were promised emancipation (only the British side honored this promise) to the cold war when Russia was using the treatment of blacks as a propaganda tool against the USA, whenever blacks were needed by the government, a campaign was put in place to convince them to help and that after they helped, they'd be treated as citizens. Most of that was bullshit but, with each war, a little was gained. With each period of peace, some of what was gained was lost by crap such as Jim Crow laws. So here we have a bright African American who is "needed" by the establishment to con the folks some more. He says sure but privately thinks that he's got to help the black part of his family too. So he won't let go of war because he firmly believes that the moment americans are not giving "rag-heads" the evil eye, they'll go back to the business of demonizing and marginalizing minorities in general and blacks in particular. It's as american as apple pie!
THE UNSTEADY MARCH
The Rise and Decline of Racial Equality in America
by Philip A. Klinkner with Rogers M. Smith
published 1999
Native Son said:
Since Israel, being a criminal and cowardly nation, only surpassed in that category by the USA ---could never hope to survive without the USA, and would never attack Iran without the 'assurances' of the USA-- they are weak and powerless without the USA."
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While I don't wish to silence or coerce your postings in any way, and I sincerely like reading your posts as they are always good and full of wisdom, I still need to take issue with your characterization of all 300 million Americans as "cowards" and "criminals". I'm sure you tar us all like this because of something my ancestors, who I never met, did to your ancestors, who you never met.
In fact the very notion of "bravery" and "cowardice" in battle is an absurd suggestion since decisions to run or fight are not made in today's conflicts by the people fighting the battle, but by chicken hawks playing chess to amuse themselves and get richer hiding behind a bunker or in a pentagram shaped building in another country.
I think your analysis of China's oil strangulation is correct. As much as I hate War Hawks, you have to give them the worry that Capitalism has created a new monster: China's huge Military buildup. And just like their economy, it runs on oil and manufacturing machines of war, which they are doing in breakneck fashion. No one is safe right now in the region from China. They are not doing this for defense. Nothing in conventional warfare can stop a mechanized two billion man army if it comes to that. Nothing.
But this is exactly how Perl Harbor started. We cut off all their Oil and Imports knowing that it was only a matter of time before the blowup happened.
We need to demand that pot be smoked by all world leaders and CEO's. Then drug test them to make sure they stay mellow. Otherwise I see the coming decade as nothing but a wet dream for the "Brotherhood of Death" aka., The Skull and Bones Society. It might interest you to know that they worship the Skull of Geronimo for christs sakes, because he was the most fearless, bloodthirsty opponent they ever came up against (they dug it up at midnight the story goes.) That is about the only thing they admire. Sad testimonial. We need to bury dead religions and head-hunting tribal societies before they see us all go extinct.
Cheers my Native American Friend,
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
I mention the '12 decent Americans' often.
Obviously you are one of them.
NativeSon
Thanks Native Son,
That means a lot to me.
Best Wishes,
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"They cannot even manage their own economy or any other vital factor much less win the wars they start."
The greatest, most powerful military ever to walk the earth so far has been unable to "pacify" one city, Baghdad.
with these clowns clamoring for is it their kids that will be doing the killing? i think not! it never is. it sure would
be nice to see the palistinians get their land back and
have those israeli bullies disappear.