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Court to Probe Afghan War Crimes
The chief prosecutor at the International Criminal Court (ICC) says he is gathering information about possible war crimes in Afghanistan.
A U.S Marine from Delta Company of 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion patrols near the town of Khan Neshin in Rig district of Helmand province, southern Afghanistan September 8, 2009. U.S. President Barack Obama faces key decisions in the coming weeks on the war in Afghanistan. (REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic) Luis Moreno-Ocampo says that he will be examining claims relating to both Nato soldiers and Taliban insurgents.
He said the court had received allegations from many sources, relating to attacks and collateral damage.
But the court will only become involved if Kabul or the UN Security Council ask it to look into allegations.
Afghanistan signed the treaty that established the Hague-based court.
Any war crime committed on its territory by either Afghan nationals or foreign forces can be investigated by the court.
The ICC began operating in 2002 and is the world's first permanent war crimes tribunal.
Under the treaty, the court can step in only when countries are unwilling or unable to dispense justice themselves for genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes.
'Very open'
Mr Moreno-Ocampo said that a preliminary examination of alleged war crimes in Afghanistan was "exceedingly complex" and time-consuming because of the difficulty of gathering information.
But he said non-governmental organizations (NGOs) active in the country had supplied him with information and evidence.
He said he has requested information from human rights groups and groups inside Afghanistan as well as the Afghan government - and would be "very open" to information from foreign governments.
Mr Moreno-Ocampo declined to provide details on what incidents the ICC was looking into and said there was no certainty that the court would charge anyone.
'Error of judgement'
"Before we open an investigation, my office has a duty to conduct preliminary examinations to define exactly whether or not I should open an investigation," Mr Moreno-Ocampo said.
"What we are trying to assess is... different types of allegations, including massive attacks, collateral damage exceeding what is considered proper, and torture."
Mr Moreno-Ocampo said that there would be no need for an ICC investigation if the Afghan authorities launched credible proceedings of their own.
Last week Afghan President Hamid Karzai described a Nato air strike in Afghanistan which killed scores of civilians as a major "error of judgement."
Afghan officials have frequently complained about other Nato attacks which they say have resulted in large numbers of civilian casualties.
Nato in turn has accused the Taliban and al-Qaeda of various criminal acts in Afghanistan, including attacking schools. using civilians as human shields and kidnapping and murdering aid workers and innocent civilians.
The United States has the most troops in Afghanistan. It is not a member of the ICC and American officials have long argued that US soldiers abroad should be subject to US law, not international treaties.
Correspondents say that while members of President Barack Obama's administration have spoken more positively about the court than their predecessors, it is doubtful that US lawmakers would ever agree to give a foreign court blanket jurisdiction over US troops.
Mr Moreno-Ocampo said his staff were also engaged in preliminary enquiries on possible war crimes in Georgia, Colombia, Kenya, the Ivory Coast, and by Israeli forces in Gaza.
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Show AllWar Crimes? What War Crimes? Don't worry about it. Obama has a secret plan to end the war. McCain would have gone back to Cambodia to finish bombing.
What do we have to hide?
The USA has postulated that they are not subject to the ICC.
Since they never signed the treaty (now that is one beautiful argument for the USA to make; but more on that another time---maybe--.)
However, my research shows that to be a gross mistake.
If there are any out there who would care to comment on this please feel free.
But, since the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are NATO 'operations', any war crimes committed by any of the nations who are signatories to the ICC, would also be applied to the USA. Especially since the 'command central' was the 'White House' with NATO command jurisdiction. In other words even though the USA is not a signatory to the ICC (I still can't stop laughing at the prospect anyway) they placed themselves under "international Jurisdiction" by Commanding NATO nations in a War with NATO troops. Their actions would implicate the Command.
In addition to this, all of the 'special operations' of the CIA in conjunction with the 'wars'---allied with NATO would also extend the jurisdiction to the 'US High Command' and include the "Commander in Chief"---'GW Bush et al' and now 'Barack Obama et al'.
If the USA chose not to comply with the ICC, they could risk creating a situation where NATO could be compelled to 'invade the USA'. To enforce the orders of the ICC.
"If the USA were another nation, the USA would invade the USA to keep the world safe; and they would be justified."
Think on that America,
the Pentagon and CIA created NATO, therefore since the US isn't a signatory of the ICC, NATO is pretty much off the hook. given that the most powerful signatories of the ICC also have strategic economic interests tied to the US in this geography, Afghanistan is pretty much hopelessly in for some major gang raping. moreover, a close look at Luis Moreno-Ocampo's record reveals he is a tool despite his carefully quaffed image as an Argentinian war crimes prosecutor.
here's a succinct description of the current Afghan power play, the real scuff, over hydrocarbons control:
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175071/pepe_escobar_pipelineistan_goes_af_pak
William Blum's 'Killing Hope. U.S. Military and CIA. Interventions Since World. War II' offers some historical perspective on American intervention all over the world, well notated with CIA, military and govt documents, here's a link to a pdf of pt1:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125025.pdf
here's the link to the full text on google books:
://books.google.com/books?id=-IbQvd13uToC&pg=PA309&lpg=PA309&dq=william+blum+killing+hope+pdf&source=bl&ots=cGv5JiDgeE&sig=JxMRh8Jo-QaR2SrFkglHceuHDmc&hl=en&ei=xBmpSvXIEIWiswO-v8HxBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7#v=onepage&q=&f=false
The ICC is a child of the GENEVA CONVENTIONS signed by the USA. about time, the war crimes by the USA are more than that of Nazi Germany and the other Fascist countries combined. If things are conducted properly with honesty and integrity, there is a good chance that several thousand will be tried, finally!!
If you believe that you really are a cretin. Regardless of how you view them, the us military is and never has been the german army. And the german army or even the waffen SS didnt. The SS, the abwher and the gestapo were mainly responcible.
But nothing like a good solid emotional argument to make it appear like you have an informed opinion.
Pete
Let's hope he can prevail and make the war criminals Bush, Cheney and Netanyahoo stand up in trial for their crimes against humanity. But as things go when it comes to the Axis of Evil, no doubt under Israel guidance and tutelage, the US will investigate itself and find itself to have the most moral army in the world...bwaaa haaa...sorry, I can't stop the laughter!
HAH! Never happen...
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