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Published on Sunday, August 9, 2009 by the Associated Press
GOP Senator Warns Against Pulling a 'Rumsfeld'
WASHINGTON - A Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee says more troops are needed in Afghanistan and is warning that the U.S. must not 'Rumsfeld' the war.
That's a reference by Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina to Bush administration Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was criticized for not putting more troops in Iraq to secure the country after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
Graham says that if NATO allies don't commit more troops and money in Afghanistan, then the U.S. must because Afghanistan is central to the fight against terrorism.
In Graham's words: "We made mistakes in Iraq. Let's not 'Rumsfeld' Afghanistan. Let's not do this thing on the cheap."
Graham appeared Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."
© 2009 Associated Press
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Show AllNewsflash Mr. Graham: terrorism is not the huge threat it's been made out to be.
That revelation is what made me abandon my goals of becoming an intelligence officer and turned me from the basic liberal hawk to a progressive.
Congratulations, zmann! You've learned a tremendous lesson. I'm sixty-five and learned the same lesson from Viet Nam.
It's too bad our government personnel aren't as astute! Our common cause at this point in our history should be to overthrow the Military Industrial Complex!!! (President Eisenhower was astute enough to warn us of the danger of this Behemoth years ago!)
so easy to say that from the safety of washington.
It is amusing, however to see Rumsfeld become a verb synonymous with screwing something up.
I think Graham is in the process of transgenderization...not that there's anyhting wrong with that!
Let's not do this thing - period!
Lindsey is a one-stop pimp and pusher for the US military-corporate cabal, aka MIC.
Our war-horny president is tragically susceptible to bi-partisan warmongering, which is like an IV of Viagra® plugged directly into Obama's War Boner.
Presidents whose painful War Boners persist after four years should consult their physicians.
Undermining a presidency by enabling and prolonging the national mood of hysterical belligerency will be known as "pulling a Graham".
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Miss Linsy Gram-Crackers--(the trans-gender thing) I think she already had that done "cause he's such a cunt--but how does this looser get to tell us again to waste our blood and grand-children's (ther'll be no fortune) lively-hood--he and they, the GOP, had their 8 years of their miserable management of this incredible fiasco and have ruined our everthing--fuck them and anyone that continues this murderous course. Who can tell me for what noble cause are we continuing this stupid war--when you can give me a real reason, and not mention the word TERRORISM then shut your freaking trap you self-righteuous sissy.
What would Graham's qualifications be for saying anything other than " Yes, Massa." to the corporations that now own what was once Our congress?
Ah yes! That ol' refrain: "We made mistakes in Iraq. Let's not 'Rumsfeld' Afghanistan. Let's not do this thing on the cheap."
Anyone remember Vietnam? More is better, right? The goal is to WIN! RA! RA! RA! GO TEAM GO!!! That's the goal. Not true democracy. Never that! We, ourselves, have a 'progressive democracy': The richer, the freer. So, what then ARE the goals, other than to prop one's self up for re-election by condemning young Americans to die for an illusory cause, and not even recording the collateral damage associated with enormous foreign civilian deaths and carnage? Well, let's see. All the big players have a stake here. From the corporate military that feeds off of war, to the oil and other energy barons that seek to surround Iran, to the ordinary folks on the street who just wanna bust some heads to give their lives meaning. Sure. Open the spigot and let THEIR blood flow; even as the money flows into your pocket Sen. Graham. Continue to fuel the war on terror. But know that you and yours will one day find yourselves listed as collateral damage.
Asia is not going to be civilized after the methods of the West. There is too much Asia and she is too old.
Rudyard Kipling
Maybe Rudyard is on to something.
All the troops and military power the US has are not enough to 'win' in Afghanistan if 'winning' means producing a US-style or US-acceptable 'democracy' against the wishes of the Afghan people. We can devastate the country, kill and terrorize the people, raze most of the villages and cities, and make the arable land useless, but we can't change the minds of those who want little more than to be left alone by us and who demand that whatever Afganistan becomes in the future be for Afgans to decide. And the more we try, the more resistance we will encounter and the more extreme and criminally insane our actions will become.
That US leaders can't or won't understand this is to demonstrate that they have another agenda.
Is Graham the only warmonger they can come up with every Sunday?
He was wrong on Iraq, and now he is wrong on Afghanistan. Who really cares what he thinks?
From the 1998 Congressional Record
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ASIA AND THE PACIFIC
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
FEBRUARY 12, 1998:
CHAIRMAN: "Next we would like to hear from Mr. John J. Maresca, vice president of international relations, Unocal Corporation."
MARESCA (excerpt): "The second option is to build a pipeline south from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean. One obvious route south would cross Iran, but this is foreclosed for American companies because of U.S. sanctions legislation. The only other possible route is across Afghanistan, which has of course its own unique challenges. The country has been involved in bitter warfare for almost two decades, and is still divided by civil war. From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders, and our company.
(http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/oil.html)
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1998, Dick Cheney, CEO of A Major OIL Services Co (Halliburton): "I cannot think of a time when we have had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian." But OIL & GAS is worthless until it is moved. The only economically sensible route was the new Afghanistan-Pakistan Pipeline..."
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Any questions?
I am sick to death of that phony term War on Terror! It was a canard when the Republican's pulled it out of their hats 8 years ago and will always be. If they want to fight terrorism do it the old fashioned way...go after the actual terrorists. Leaving the troops and all the war profiteers at home. The World Trade Center bombers of 93 are still in jail rotting while these people waste trillions of needed money on this useless War on Terror that we can't win. It's done nothing but sink the economy and make us a bunch of terrorist's in the process.
The Hindu Kush is a mountain range in eastern and central Afghanistan and north-western Pakistan.
It is where the soldiers of foreign empires go to die.
It was my contention from the 9/11 'attack', and long before then for that matter, that without the USA meddling in the affairs of other nations, the USA would have so few 'problems'.
I use the example: If the 9/11 suicide bombers had simply desired to kill as many 'infidels' as possible; they could have done the same thing in Mexico City as they did in NY City and they would have killed many more.
The only reason they chose the USA is that the USA has meddled and continues to meddle in the affairs of other nations, using in all cases ridiculous excuses. They have been directly responsible for the introduction of misery and suffering in millions of peoples lives; from their beginning, to this very day.
If of you study American history it reveals that the Americans just do not like to learn from their mistakes---even if they admit to making one, they rush out to repeat it, often.
They have not 'won' any of the wars they have started in over sixty years. They have succeeded in making fools of themselves, while at the same time they 'scare the hell out of the rest of the world'.
They can send 'people into space' but they can't take care of their neediest people. They cannot keep their word often breaking it as soon as they put the agreement on paper.
They cannot seem to gain the control of their government from the conservatives who have made it the 'terror' of the world. All the while they hold themselves up to the world as 'the example'.
Just one example; they recently handed over almost a trillion tax dollars to save their banks; to the very same people who created the disaster in the first place. They still do not know what happened to the money. This money was borrowed from their 'old enemy'---the last remaining Communist super power---China.*
So now, instead of deciding not to repeat the mistakes of the past, they are discussing how to make a 'different version' of the same mistake while repeating the mistake.
* I just had to mention this. The conservative element is in the process of 'derailing the health care reform' on the premise that it is 'socialistic' while at the same time, they borrow trillions of dollars from Communist China, to finance the 'bringing of Democracy to others'---
This is unbelievable arrogance or unbelievable stupidity. Either will lead to their destruction.
Good Luck America, you really need it.
The thing missing from this article, as I recall, was that Rumsfeld wanted to bring down troop levels and use more technology in their place. Of course this would also put more money in the pockets of defense contractors. Well now we not only have a push for more troops but also plenty of drones, satellite networks, remotely controlled attack machines on land, sea and air. It's a perfect world (for some). The term "pulling a Rumsfeld" should be reserved for complicity in 9-11.